[Spoilers] Discussion Topic: Season 9

[SRAM]

1 hour ago, stardustmelody said:

Basically saying nothing new really.   I hope they don't hold to the "once a year on Amy's birthday" rule.  That would be the stupidest thing ever.

I think a great opening scene would be Amy and Sheldon in their pajamas walking into the living room one morning while Leonard and Penny stare at them in shock while drinking their coffee also in their pajamas.

[stardustmelody]

10 minutes ago, djsurrey said:

Will they ever crowbar Leonard and Sheldon apart? When they do will the sky fall? The answer is still blowing in the wind.

To be honest, I think that the audience is more ready for them to be "crowbar'd" apart than the writers are.   The writers are very timid to and fear change.   It is interesting because I think having some interaction between Sheldon and Leonard is wonderful, but the way they have them anchored at the hip all the time or rather Sheldon anchored with both Leonard and Penny, it looses charm.  They need to branch out and let some breath come between them.   Plus they have lost both Leonard and Penny in many ways as characters because all they do is enable Sheldon to be the limelight.   

It is not a wonder that they don't do well in polls any longer.  The couple are rarely seen as a couple anymore, but more as enablers to Sheldon.   The writers are doing themselves and the audience a disservice by constantly fearing to move forward and give story to other characters besides Sheldon.   We care about more than Sheldon.  Sure many of us love him, and he can still be front and center a great deal of the time, but come on....give more than breadcrumbs to Leonard and Penny and to Amy, Raj, Howard and Bernadette.  They all deserve some story and let Sheldon sometimes be more there for them instead of it being about him.

I would love to see Lenny get their own story, just as it appears they are claiming they are doing with Howardette  (although the jury is still out on that given they haven't really done much with that story so far.)  But it would be nice to see some of the other characters getting story and one way is to bite the bullet and have living arrangements addressed soon so that others can break free and be given story arcs.

1 minute ago, SRAM said:

I think a great opening scene would be Amy and Sheldon in their pajamas walking into the living room one morning while Leonard and Penny stare at them in shock while drinking their coffee also in their pajamas.

YASSS!   And this could initiate a good talk about living arrangements...be the impetus for starting that conversation!  

[3ku11]

14 minutes ago, stardustmelody said:

To be honest, I think that the audience is more ready for them to be "crowbar'd" apart than the writers are.   The writers are very timid to and fear change.   It is interesting because I think having some interaction between Sheldon and Leonard is wonderful, but the way they have them anchored at the hip all the time or rather Sheldon anchored with both Leonard and Penny, it looses charm.  They need to branch out and let some breath come between them.   Plus they have lost both Leonard and Penny in many ways as characters because all they do is enable Sheldon to be the limelight.   

It is not a wonder that they don't do well in polls any longer.  The couple are rarely seen as a couple anymore, but more as enablers to Sheldon.   The writers are doing themselves and the audience a disservice by constantly fearing to move forward and give story to other characters besides Sheldon.   We care about more than Sheldon.  Sure many of us love him, and he can still be front and center a great deal of the time, but come on....give more than breadcrumbs to Leonard and Penny and to Amy, Raj, Howard and Bernadette.  They all deserve some story and let Sheldon sometimes be more there for them instead of it being about him.

I would love to see Lenny get their own story, just as it appears they are claiming they are doing with Howardette  (although the jury is still out on that given they haven't really done much with that story so far.)  But it would be nice to see some of the other characters getting story and one way is to bite the bullet and have living arrangements addressed soon so that others can break free and be given story arcs.

YASSS!   And this could initiate a good talk about living arrangements...be the impetus for starting that conversation!  

Hmm yeah it's getting too crowded in here.. lol

[JE7]

56 minutes ago, Tonstar17 said:

 

But it would be totally in charecter for Sheldon. Despite fanfic and shamy thread dreams that's just the way Sheldon is, not really caring about sex that much. It really was just a gift for Amy not the start of a torrid affair

^^^^^

If it's a gift to Amy. That's not good. Really hope not. Where are tptb going with this.

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Maybe that while Sheldon loves amy the physical part just dosent really interest him, it never has and it would b ooc for him to suddenly become a sexual dynamo

Edited March 2, 2016 by JE7

[camelliayao]

37 minutes ago, Tonstar17 said:

 

But it would be totally in charecter for Sheldon. Despite fanfic and shamy thread dreams that's just the way Sheldon is, not really caring about sex that much. It really was just a gift for Amy not the start of a torrid affair

^^^^^

If it's a gift to Amy. That's not good. Really hope not. Where are tptb going with this.

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I know what you mean. To be honest I would be somehow offended if my boyfriend considers sleeping with me as a  gift for me. 

However, I don't think it's totally in character for Sheldon to have no interest in sex. The way they portray him in previous seasons, it feels like he's not interested in sex because he never falls in love with anyone before Amy. The train kiss in 715, couch kiss in 824 and kisses in 910 all show us the sexual side of Sheldon is awakening. He's making progress. But in 911, the writers suddenly decided to stop the progress and make Sheldon all rational about sex like before. I was very very surprised. But the writers are going that way, there's nothing I can do about it. So I decided to make peace with it.

I don't really care about the sex life of Shamy now. If they do it, great. If they don't, it doesn't make Shamy less adorable to me. I just hope this "Amy hinting sex while Sheldon failing to understand" thing can stop. It's not about Shamy. It's the jokes. They are getting old and boring. 

[Ranger Rosa]

Guys, is there a full TR from last night's episode? If so, can someone send me the link?

[3ku11]

In Friends Chandler moved out. You could argue Leonard and Sheldon are like Chandler and Joey in.terms of living dynamics. In s6. Did Chandler go back and fourth between apts? Nope. Did it irrevocably change the premise? Nope. I hate to.use another friends reference. But its apt in.this case. In Bbt case were nearing s10 Leonard is now married to.Penny. And they are still.splitting time between 4A and 4b. Its madness ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Why? You know reasons. Honestly. If I watch Lenny behind that damn kitchen one more time. Oh shit were about to hit an iceberg. Oh well..

Edited March 3, 2016 by 3ku11

[stardustmelody]

59 minutes ago, Ranger Rosa said:

Guys, is there a full TR from last night's episode? If so, can someone send me the link?

Rosa...no full taping report but links to several posts are found here.

1 hour ago, JE7 said:

Maybe that while Sheldon loves amy the physical part just dosent really interest him, it never has and it would b ooc for him to suddenly become a sexual dynamo

The only issue is that Sheldon said he enjoyed it and "could not wait" of course using the birthday frame of reference in the comment, but it is clear he did like it and was not feeling like it was just an obligatory thing for Amy.  I think it is unlikely they will wait until her birthday again, but the writers are milking what they can out of the first time.  They know they have to get there again though otherwise everything they wrote in that episode relative to his response would be meaningless.   So I do think they likely will have them share an experience again and probably before the season is out.   But Molaro often says the opposite of something when they are working on an scripts.  It would not surprise me if one of the scripts they are working on has them dancing between the sheets again soon given his track record.

[djsurrey]

1 hour ago, stardustmelody said:

To be honest, I think that the audience is more ready for them to be "crowbar'd" apart than the writers are.   The writers are very timid to and fear change.   It is interesting because I think having some interaction between Sheldon and Leonard is wonderful, but the way they have them anchored at the hip all the time or rather Sheldon anchored with both Leonard and Penny, it looses charm.  They need to branch out and let some breath come between them.   Plus they have lost both Leonard and Penny in many ways as characters because all they do is enable Sheldon to be the limelight.  

For the fans it is entertainment. For the writers it is bread and butter. Sheldon and Leonard sharing an apartment is part of the original concept that the writers seem to fear letting go of.  It seems they will milk it until it is no longer possible (could be any time now maybe).

[vonmar]

13 minutes ago, stardustmelody said:

Rosa...no full taping report but links to several posts are found here.

The only issue is that Sheldon said he enjoyed it and "could not wait" of course using the birthday frame of reference in the comment, but it is clear he did like it and was not feeling like it was just an obligatory thing for Amy.  I think it is unlikely they will wait until her birthday again, but the writers are milking what they can out of the first time.  They know they have to get there again though otherwise everything they wrote in that episode relative to his response would be meaningless.   So I do think they likely will have them share an experience again and probably before the season is out.   But Molaro often says the opposite of something when they are working on an scripts.  It would not surprise me if one of the scripts they are working on has them dancing between the sheets again soon given his track record.

I've been thinking that if they do have sex again before Amy's next birthday, it will be a part of the Season 9 finale...a 6th anniversary date,

A redemption of sorts for the disaster that was their 5th anniversary date night in the Season 8 finale.

 

[djsurrey]

48 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

In Friends Chandler moved out. You could argue Leonard and Sheldon are like Chandler and Joey in.terms of living dynamics. In s6. Did Chandler go back and fourth between apts? Nope. Did it irrevocably change the premise? Nope. I hate to.use another friends reference. But its apt in.this case. In Bbt case were nearing s10 Leonard is now married to.Penny. And they are still.splitting time between 4A and 4b. Its madness ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Why? You know reasons. Honestly. If I watch Lenny behind that damn kitchen one more time. Oh shit were about to hit an iceberg. Oh well..

I don't think it is the same. I think in the beginning the relationship between Leonard and Sheldon was the support on which everything else is built. 

[3ku11]

15 minutes ago, vonmar said:

I've been thinking that if they do have sex again before Amy's next birthday, it will be a part of the Season 9 finale...a 6th anniversary date,

A redemption of sorts for the disaster that was their 5th anniversary date night in the Season 8 finale.

 

What you mean when Amy dumped his ass haha. I dont think that's a reason to have them do it. A celebration of what should have been. It takes away the credulity of why they broke up. We sent a mistake, it was necessary. So if they do it again. I see Amys bday. Not for some retribution. I think PENNY deserves retribution. And Lenny deserve a re do wedding but alas.

[vonmar]

5 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

What you mean when Amy dumped his ass haha. I dont think that's a reason to have them do it. A celebration of what should have been. It takes away the credulity of why they broke up. We sent a mistake, it was necessary. So if they do it again. I see Amys bday. Not for some retribution. I think PENNY deserves retribution. And Lenny deserve a re do wedding but alas.

First bold....no, a celebration of who they are now.

Second bold....I said redemption, not retribution....very different words. 

[Carlos]

6 hours ago, stardustmelody said:

I hope they don't hold to the "once a year on Amy's birthday" rule.  That would be the stupidest thing ever.

Yeah, right? After all it took for Sheldon to get there it would really be almost cruel to Amy if he "gave it to her" just once a year on her birthday. Even if I initially thought it was too quick for coitus (after they got back together) once they did it once, and with Sheldon saying " I liked this more than I thought I would have" I thought it was going to be at least a semi regular thing,... but apparently not....strange...

[3ku11]

2 hours ago, vonmar said:

First bold....no, a celebration of who they are now.

Second bold....I said redemption, not retribution....very different words. 

Ok im sorry mr vocabulary I bow down

[vonmar]

8 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

Ok im sorry mr vocabulary I bow down

Your passion, my passion...whatever...I enjoy bantering with you. 

[Cindi May]

16 hours ago, 3ku11 said:

Show was always based on relationships tbh. So dont see how shows any different now. Other then the fact a huge focus has been on character development over the years. Makes sense to me theirs a focus on the relationships now. Natural progression. Live Action the actors get older in real life haha. Tbh that's it show fundamentally not all that different. You still got Lenny living with Sheldon. That premise aint changing. Theirs been a shift in Science sure to a more relationship centric show sure. That's why I like last taping. Just sounds light hearted. But the show should be where it is in its ninth season. Dealing with real world isssues. Shows growing up I wouldn't expect anything less at this stage. I think they need a designed end point. Because with talk of season extensions. Its hard to prepare episode by episode basis when its an unknown.

Yes relationship were there but there was more balance between everything: realtionships, their work, their nerdy interests and it was more funny in general.  It barely makes you laugh now, the jokes are repetitive etc. And they dropped all the intricate dialogues. No difference between this and a sitcom like Friends nowadays. Of course just my opinion.

Edited March 3, 2016 by Cindi May

[Mislav]

On 2. ožujka 2016. at 9:20 AM, mirs1 said:

Some spoilers from the chat, Shamydawson was there and told us them; thank her so much!! 

Leonard and Howard are in the lab building something for their app and Bernie and Penny join them. The guys realizes that they miss something and are going to buy it. On their way they notice that there is a screening of some movie and Will Smith is there, so they tell the girls that they are late for some problems with a tire and go there. They text Raj to tease him because he's missing Will Smith. But Raj is with the girls, so he tells them their husbands lie to them. When the guys come back to the lab (with flowers) Raj jumps out from a closet to scare them and of course they understand that the girls know the truth. Some very funny lines here, with Raj that comes back in the closet because Howard is going to spoil the movie!

Sheldon's laptop dies and Amy buys him a new one; then she suggested him to get rid of the old laptop, but he confesses her that he has a storage (most likely Majim's photo on IG was taken there) where he keeps all his stuff and he can't throw anything away. They go there and Amy has to sign a non-disclosure agreement before, LOL! Tender teasing shamy moments when they go back home...

Thank you for the report, mirs1 and Shamydawson! It sounds like a great episode!

7 hours ago, Carlos said:

Yeah, right? After all it took for Sheldon to get there it would really be almost cruel to Amy if he "gave it to her" just once a year on her birthday. Even if I initially thought it was too quick for coitus (after they got back together) once they did it once, and with Sheldon saying " I liked this more than I thought I would have" I thought it was going to be at least a semi regular thing,... but apparently not....strange...

They didn't show them kissing many times after "The Locomotive Manipulation", but it was made obvious that they would kiss on the regular basis since then. They even made out in the season eight finale. Writers don't reference to sex that often regarding other couples , there is no need to go on about it with Shamy since their relationship never included the physical component as often. 

 

 

It is implied that their love making (not just the act itself) lasted for two hours, so I think that it is safe to say that Sheldon and enjoyed it too. He didn't even want to take a shower afterward.

 

 

And even if it is a one year event, or just not something that they do often, both Sheldon and Amy seem satisfied and more or less on the same footing with their sexual life, which is all that matters. 

[Cindi May]

12 hours ago, 3ku11 said:

In Friends Chandler moved out. You could argue Leonard and Sheldon are like Chandler and Joey in.terms of living dynamics. In s6. Did Chandler go back and fourth between apts? Nope. Did it irrevocably change the premise? Nope. I hate to.use another friends reference. But its apt in.this case. In Bbt case were nearing s10 Leonard is now married to.Penny. And they are still.splitting time between 4A and 4b. Its madness ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Why? You know reasons. Honestly. If I watch Lenny behind that damn kitchen one more time. Oh shit were about to hit an iceberg. Oh well..

I don't think moving Leonard and penny to 4b would change much at this point. They could still hang out with Sheldon and the others in 4A most of the time. 

 

9 hours ago, Carlos said:

Yeah, right? After all it took for Sheldon to get there it would really be almost cruel to Amy if he "gave it to her" just once a year on her birthday. Even if I initially thought it was too quick for coitus (after they got back together) once they did it once, and with Sheldon saying " I liked this more than I thought I would have" I thought it was going to be at least a semi regular thing,... but apparently not....strange...

The writers are dealing with Sheldon and sex like chickens as always, like with livin' arrangements etc...they're scared of some character development (that they've already started btw with Sheldon and Amy having sex and Leonard and Penny gettin' married) but they're ok with transforming their show over the years in a more digestible product for the masses, dropping all the initial characteristics that made their show great and different.

Edited March 3, 2016 by Cindi May

[veejay]

On 3.3.2016 at 0:19 PM, Cindi May said:

I don't think moving Leonard and penny to 4b would change much at this point. They could still hang out with Sheldon and the others in 4A most of the time. 

 

The writers are dealing with Sheldon and sex like chicken as always, like with livin' arrangements etc...they're scared of some character development (that they're already started btw with Sheldon and Amy having sex and Leonard and Penny gettin' married) but they're ok with transforming their show over the years in a more digestible product for the masses, dropping all the initial characteristics that made their show great and different.

I'm afraid you're right. 

 

Edited July 2, 2016 by veejay

[mphs95]

I don't know about that, yet. The thing is I quite liked Emily - even with her creepy side because at least she had a geeky streak in her with that. But the TR seems to imply that the writers are framing her as being manipulative and everyone is advising Raj against going back to her and Idk, it'd be a pity if she just ended up as the bad gal in this. Or maybe that's just me and her creepiness was supposed to be a serious red flag (beyond her incompatibility with Raj's sweetheart side)????

 

I actually like her too. I liked the fact she encouraged him to stand up for himself and she seems to really care about him. She got jealous over Penny! Clairemont I liked but seemed like someone that fit on paper but I thought it felt forced.

If TBBT doesn't want LS, I'll take more of her on Bones. They develop characters there and I love hers on that show

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Sorry who is in Bones from Tbbt?

I've only just recently started watching it and caught John Ross Bowie in an episode yesterday [emoji4]

Laura Spencer plays Jessica Warren, one of the squinterns. She doesn't come in until the end of season 9.

Loved that ep with JRB from S 7. His scenes with the kids testing his stuff always cracks me up.

I do prefer Emily to Claire. I didn't see a lot of sparks unless it was drilled into my head by Raj or Howard, and even then it was forced. I do think this stuff was to have an excuse for LS to be off the show to film a Bones ep but I can think of much better excuses to use.

If it turns out Em is manipulating Raj, good for her. He was a DB in the V Day ep, and for staying and sleeping with her in S9 when he was constantly saying he wanted to break things off.

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[Cindi May]

I think Kunal and Laura have absolutely zero chemistry together. They're the worst couple on the show. I liked Raj with Lucy.

[tallin]

14 hours ago, 3ku11 said:

In Friends Chandler moved out. You could argue Leonard and Sheldon are like Chandler and Joey in.terms of living dynamics. In s6. Did Chandler go back and fourth between apts? Nope. Did it irrevocably change the premise? Nope. I hate to.use another friends reference. But its apt in.this case. In Bbt case were nearing s10 Leonard is now married to.Penny. And they are still.splitting time between 4A and 4b. Its madness ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Why? You know reasons. Honestly. If I watch Lenny behind that damn kitchen one more time. Oh shit were about to hit an iceberg. Oh well..

On the other hand there's not much to screw up, sipping  tea on a kitchen island. Trust me, I wish Shamy never left that spot  

Edited March 3, 2016 by tallin

[I Miss Dan]

Never thought I'd miss the Relationship Agreement, but if they still had it, Amy could petition for more coitus and come to a more reasonable amount with Sheldon.  I think he would feel more in control if it was planned out, and he would thus enjoy it more.

[hokie3457]

2 hours ago, Cindi May said:

I think Kunal and Laura have absolutely zero chemistry together. They're the worst couple on the show. I liked Raj with Lucy.

I find the Emily character much more likable and acutally more interested in Raj than Lucy.  I am really pulling for the Raj/Emily relationship big time!   (not a shipper of/for them, but nevertheless...)