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that's nothing more than a rewording of Molaro's "Amy may not be looking for a new guy, but she isn't ruling it out", statement from a couple of weeks ago. 

oh okay thought as much. I guess tho Tptb have opened the door re Amy possibly dating hypothetically. 

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oh okay thought as much. I guess tho Tptb have opened the door re Amy possibly dating hypothetically. 

Skull, they just reproduced what Molaro said. And after the premiere taping and the ring stuff I don't believe him too much, althrough we might find out the truth on Tuesday, because they show the most recent tapped episode to the audience;

If they really go down that road of Amy dating and/or kissing other guys, they've lost me completely.

For now I have 0.1% faith they will find a way to restore Shamy...

Keep holding on, buddy. :icon_wink:

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Just read a spoiler maybe some aware of. Amy.finds new love, that sounds interesting. Sheldon better step.up.then haha. 

That wasn't a spoiler...it says at the top of the article that came form it is a RUMOR.   It is based off of Molaro's comment that Amy has "not ruled out" possibly dating another guy.  But that doesn't mean that she will or that she will be getting a new love interest.   It is pure speculation based off of fanfics and Molaro trying to stir up the pot.

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 Let me clarify some misconceptions that I saw on some previous pages concerning ship zones and the Gripes and Moans thread. 

First off, as noted, ship zones are for supportive comments about the ship.  This does not mean problems or complaints about the ship are not allowed, but those problems or complaints must be done in a supportive manner.

For example, as many of you know, I'm a Lenny fan.  If I were to say that Leonard not telling Penny he kissed and then worked with this other woman for two years was bad and not in character.  I would have preferred to have them treated better, more playful as they were show in earlier seasons.

While a problem (as I see it of course, others may not see it that way or see other things I don't consider a problem) was stated, wanting to see them being playful together rather than the problem is being supportive of the ship.   However, a full paragraph or more of complaints about the couple, is not offset by a single sentence.   A way to think about it is the supportive comments should be the majority of the comments.

We also do not allow negative comments about other ships in ship zones.   As these are supposed to be supportive for a particular ship, comments about other ship could lead to discussions of other ships.  A negative comment about Shamy in the Lenny ship thread would, more than likely bring Shamys into the thread to defend Shamy.   Ship zones are for a particular ship.  Other ships, points of the show not encompassing the ship, flat out negativity, etc, are not supposed to be discussed in ship zones.

Discussion or comparisons of the different ships belongs in the Shipping Lanes thread.

 

 

The Gripes and Moans allows for a specific complaint, once per member.  Debate, refutation, or discussion is not allowed in that thread.  If someone wants to discuss or debate a complaint or negative comment, then the discussion thread (here) or Shipping Lanes would be where to go to make those complaints.  Those are also the place to go if you wish to state your complaint more than once.  Please see the special rules in the first post of the Gripes and Moans thread.

 

Any of you may want to review the Ship Zone rules.

If there are any questions either PM me or add a comment to The Site forum

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If they really go down that road of Amy dating and/or kissing other guys, they've lost me completely.

For now I have 0.1% faith they will find a way to restore Shamy...

Welcome to 8.24. If Leonard can kiss Mandy what would TPTB stop Amy from dating/kissing another guy? they seem to be on a "break".

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Welcome to 8.24. If Leonard can kiss Mandy what would TPTB stop Amy from dating/kissing another guy? they seem to be on a "break".

The difference between Leonard kissing Mandy is that both Leonard and Penny have been with other people in the past and both have kissed other people and were not "unique" to each other before they met and even after they met. Sheldon and Amy have both been "unique" to each other all along, so there is a difference there.   Neither came with previous experience or previous interest in romance.  It was because they found each other, developed a friendship then a bond that grew and grew into a deep love for each other that makes it harder for fans to swallow either of them venturing out and dating others or kissing others.  It seems to ruin the whole "purity" of their relationship.

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The difference between Leonard kissing Mandy is that both Leonard and Penny have been with other people in the past and both have kissed other people and were not "unique" to each other.  Sheldon and Amy have both been "unique" to each other so there is a difference there.   Neither came with previous experience or previous interest in romance.  It was because they found each other, developed a friendship then a bond that grew and grew into a deep love for each other that makes it harder for fans to swallow either of them venturing out and dating others or kissing others.  It seems to ruin the whole "purity" of their relationship.

sorry i disagree L and P are not unique to each other. Amy dated Stuart in s5, i dont see any difference here. I dont want this to degenerate into some ship war. But i dont agree Lenny are not unique to other. Just because that  what normal looks like lol, doesent make them any less unique. Im.more a lenny then shamy, as them being mismatched is more interesting to me. Just my opinion. 

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sorry i disagree L and P are not unique to each other. Amy dated Stuart in s5, i dont see any difference here. I dont want this to degenerate into some ship war. But i dont agree Lenny are not unique to other. Just because that  what normal looks like lol, doesent make them any less unique. Im.more a lenny then shamy, as them being mismatched is more interesting me. Just my opinion. 

Amy never kissed Stewart. She never showed any inclination to do so.

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sorry i disagree L and P are not unique to each other. Amy dated Stuart in s5, i dont see any difference here. I dont want this to degenerate into some ship war. But i dont agree Lenny are not unique to other. Just because that  what normal looks like lol, doesent make them any less unique. Im.more a lenny then shamy, as them being mismatched is more interesting to me. Just my opinion. 

Amy never touched Stuart beyond a hug...no kissing, no hand holding...and one movie date, where she accepts being Sheldon's girlfriend is not really a "typical" date.  Penny and Leonard both had not only kissed other people, but slept with other people.  They came with experience and neither were virgins.   Sheldon and Amy are virgins and have been each others' firsts.    Sure Amy went out with Stuart, but she was never interested in him nor did she share anything more than a night out with a friend.

128 orgasms by a brain stimulated experiment is hardly the same thing and you know it Chrismo.  We are talking about person to person here...not machine to person.  Also we are talking about an emotional attachment involved as well.   Both Penny and Leonard had other boyfriend and girlfriends in the past.  Big difference.

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sorry i disagree L and P are not unique to each other. Amy dated Stuart in s5, i dont see any difference here. I dont want this to degenerate into some ship war. But i dont agree Lenny are not unique to other. Just because that  what normal looks like lol, doesent make them any less unique. Im.more a lenny then shamy, as them being mismatched is more interesting to me. Just my opinion. 

I don't think so. She just went on a date with him, Sheldon stopped the potential date, fortunately.
 

Well Amy has already had 128 orgasms. So in that way it already has been ruined.

I'm laughting so hard of this!

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she still dated him.tho. So based on continuity, they have done it before, they can do it again. 

Sure why not. It would take at least three years for them to kiss and she will be back with Sheldon in weeks.

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she still dated him.tho. So based on continuity, they have done it before, they can do it again. 

Ok...going by that logic...she can go on a "date" with someone, Sheldon comes in the middle of it and proposes to her and she goes off with her new finance...SHELDON...that would still hardly qualify as a date.   Sorry, but she went with Stuart to a movie and acted like a "friend" only...never any romantic attachment, never any interest in him romantically, never any sort of romantic gestures made.   Sure you can call it a "date" technically, but you know for a fact there is a HUGE difference in what we are talking about and we are talking about two people who are virgins and have never been in love, never had romance, etc. that found each other.  There is a purity in Sheldon and Amy and you know it.  You can try and justify the Stuart thing, but you know it is different and isn't the same as if Amy found a new "love"....that would be changing the dynamic and the purity of the relationship.   It would destroy the beauty of what Shamy are...pure and two people who are  social outcasts that found each other and were perfect for each other.   Add a third person into the mix and it changes the whole dynamic and no longer seems pure.

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That's the beauty of this, you have proven yourself wrong, by not showing vasu is wrong.   

Again the argument from ignorance example I gave you a couple posts ago, "Fred said that he is smarter than Jill, but he didn't prove it, so it must be false."

and.... A claim's truth or falsity depends on supporting or refuting evidence to the claim, not the lack of support for a contrary or contradictory claim.

I didn't prove myself wrong because I didn't give you any supporting evidence to my claim that proves vasu is wrong.

 

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Stuart and Amy went on two dates.   Dale was running the comic book store when they went out for the first date.  The second date to the movies.   I have a hard time seeing that Stuart and Amy as friends, as the first time they met was at the comic book store a day or two before they went out. 

And Amy's "I don't know.  He's nice.  He's funny.  He has the sallow, drawn countenance associated with an overactive thyroid gland.  That's kinda hot." doesn't sound as if she considered him a friend, at the time.  

 

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Stuart and Amy went on two dates.   Dale was running the comic book store when they went out for the first date.  The second date to the movies.   I have a hard time seeing that Stuart and Amy as friends, as the first time they met was at the comic book store a day or two before they went out. 

And Amy's "I don't know.  He's nice.  He's funny.  He has the sallow, drawn countenance associated with an overactive thyroid gland.  That's kinda hot." doesn't sound as if she considered him a friend, at the time.  

 

And this is how she described Sheldon:

Amy: Not just my first boyfriend, he’s the best boyfriend. I mean, think about it. I’m dating Sheldon Cooper.

Penny: Yes. On purpose.

Amy: He’s handsome, he’s lanky, he’s brilliant, and his skin has that pale, waxy quality.

Big difference imho.

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