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20 minutes ago, April said:

LOL Jim:

Pro tip: Use the marker itself next time! Bill can surely give you an extra lesson in advanced pen placement. ;D

(I'm sorry this amuses me more than it should. lol)

No it is very funny. I laughed for one minute.:laugh:

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40 minutes ago, April said:

LOL Jim:

Pro tip: Use the marker itself next time! Bill can surely give you an extra lesson in advanced pen placement. ;D

(I'm sorry this amuses me more than it should. lol)

He probably did cover it okay, but the flash from his camera phone made it visible.

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On ‎4‎/‎16‎/‎2016 at 2:36 PM, wowbagger said:

Okay, but that still sounds as though we're using cultural norms to justify a double standard: mothers' feet are held to the fire for coldness or hypercriticality, but fathers? Do we even have expectations of fathers?

I'm not saying you're doing that, but the show- and Leonard-on some level certainly seems to. Beverley is presented as a villain (albeit an entertaining and charismatic one) who looms large in Leonard's personal mythos, but from where I sit his father should get just as much stick, if not more.

As I've said many times I usually agree with your posts but not in these occasions. I sort of detect a very specific animosity towards Leonard dad. In my view both mother and father are equally responsible in the raising of a family in every respect. There are some (very few) things that are gender specific but are negligible in the overall division of responsibilities.

Beverly is presented as a villain because she is. No ands ifs or buts. If Dr. Hofstadter is or isn't doesn't alter that fact. The only reason why I think it is premature to say what you're saying about Leonard's dad is because as of now we just don't know. Mainly what we're heard has been through Beverly and a little bit though Leonard but nothing on par with what we know about her. That being said if we get a whole lot of information about him that becomes canon and demonstrates that he is a villain as well, I'd have no problem thinking of him as such No matter how bad a father he might or might not be excuses how bad a mother Beverly was. And yes, if we discover him to be a very bad father. no matter how bad a mother Beverly was, doesn't excuse him either. For me the difference is just that: about Beverly we already know. I don't think we can make that determination about him yet.

 

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38 minutes ago, Tonstar17 said:

 

Leonard looks the most upset. Maybe he just got bad news about his dad or that his marriage is over, a secret revealed and then went to his lab to work and forget about his pain.

 

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I'm sorry but saying Leonard looks the most upset is grasping at straws. The four just look bored waiting for someone. Would he be standing  idly in a movie theater if something had happened to his dad, who's not involved in this taping or his marriage was over. And forgetting about his pain. what pain?

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On ‎4‎/‎17‎/‎2016 at 6:16 PM, ATOB said:

I thought she had the book as part of her psychology coursework? Even so, do you mean to tell me that if there was a book about your significant other then you wouldn't be curious enough to read it? Pfffft!

The punishment was gloriously fitting and perfect irony. Leonard used Beverley to trick Penny. In return Penny used Beverley to get even.  

And you make my point beautifully, why did Leonard 'need' to trick Penny into sex in the first place? Is she known for withholding the goods? Erm, no; no she isn't. So what was his motivation? Or is it perhaps that Leonard can be a sneaky lil' so and so when he wants?  (Gah, and he woulda got away with it if it hadn'ta been for that pesky Bernadette!)

I suspect he manipulated her because he knew he could, and it was to his own advantage, at least it was until it ricocheted and the situation was directly reversed, a little like having your own gun turned on you, no?

Whether I agree with the rest of your opinion could be a matter of discussion, BUT the part that you seem to forget in your assessment  is that Leonard asked Penny repeatedly not to read the book because he was genuinely hurt by all of it, and she did anyway.

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5 minutes ago, Tonstar17 said:

Great looks like another Shenny episode. Where penny & Sheldon? Probably being a nice guy to his best friends wife (bernie comes to mind, last TR) and with berverly. Leonard you are fucked.

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Stuart ends up with the guys at the movie theater and Amy is not with them. It's logical to assume that for some reasons she drives him there and then she leaves. Why don't we wait for the TR before screaming at a Shenny episode? Beverly is going to be there too. My guess is that Penny spends some quality time with her mother in law.... 

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6 minutes ago, Tonstar17 said:

Great looks like another Shenny episode. Where penny & Sheldon? Probably being a nice guy to his best friends wife (bernie comes to mind, last TR) and with berverly. Leonard you are fucked.

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Beverly is probably with Sheldon and Penny telling them what a great couple they are together, which will end in the final episode of Penny moving back to 4B or Leonard being exiled to 4B.

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Great looks like another Shenny episode. Where penny & Sheldon? Probably being a nice guy to his best friends wife (bernie comes to mind, last TR) and with berverly. Leonard you are fucked.

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Stuart ends up with the guys at the movie theater and Amy is not with them. It's logical to assume that for some reasons she drives him there and then she leaves. Why don't we wait for the TR before screaming at a Shenny episode? Beverly is going to be there too. My guess is that Penny spends some quality time with her mother in law.... 

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I'm not. It just feels that way. Sorry cant see a penny/ Beverley alone time. Not going to happen Sheldon has to somehow be involved. Or are you saying he is not going to be in the episode. What would Sheldon be doing if Amy is driving Stuart to meet the guys? Hanging out with Bernie again?

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9 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

Stuart ends up with the guys at the movie theater and Amy is not with them. It's logical to assume that for some reasons she drives him there and then she leaves. Why don't we wait for the TR before screaming at a Shenny episode? Beverly is going to be there too. My guess is that Penny spends some quality time with her mother in law.... 

While I agree with the idea of waiting for the TR before making some fan fiction like ideas from one or two "possible" scenes I'm guessing quality time with Bev isn't happening either.

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Great looks like another Shenny episode. Where penny & Sheldon? Probably being a nice guy to his best friends wife (bernie comes to mind, last TR) and with berverly. Leonard you are fucked. Sent from my SM-G928F using Tapatalk

Stuart ends up with the guys at the movie theater and Amy is not with them. It's logical to assume that for some reasons she drives him there and then she leaves. Why don't we wait for the TR before screaming at a Shenny episode? Beverly is going to be there too. My guess is that Penny spends some quality time with her mother in law.... 

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I'm not. It just feels that way. Sorry cant see a penny/ Beverley alone time. Not going to happen Sheldon has to somehow be involved. Or are you saying he is not going to be in the episode. What would Sheldon be doing if Amy is driving Stuart to meet the guys? Hanging out with Bernie again?

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Edit. Sorry I see another bashing Leonard episode by S/P/B. Doesn't look like they are going to address penny issues, all I see is it doesn't look good for lenny or Leonard.

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Tonstar 17 I think you are so right on this and i think Sram is right about leonard going to 4b. It's just tptb dream of having their 2 favorite characters together but i wonder how amy will take it

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Or may be that's what they want us to think and S/P/B actually discuss the living arrangements and penny realises what a nutjob they both are and decides to move to 4b with her husband. That's me trying to be positive.

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Tonstar 17 I think you are so right on this and i think Sram is right about leonard going to 4b. It's just tptb dream of having their 2 favorite characters together but i wonder how amy will take it

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If it happens Amy will go along with it just like Leonard, in tptb world it doesn't matter how much S & P hurt their other half they will give them a goldfish memory and twist it to make it A & L fault and they just go along with it and forgive the fav 2. And never get mentioned again. Its a bbt world & tptb are the gods after all. Anything can happen.

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It seems all we know is Leonard, Raj, Stuart, and Howard appear to be in the lobby in a movie theater and Stuart was in a car with Amy. What else happens with the Sheldon Penny and Bernadette is anyone's guess. There is no guarantee how they fit or are with in the episode.

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1 hour ago, Tonstar17 said:

Great looks like another Shenny episode. Where penny & Sheldon? Probably being a nice guy to his best friends wife (bernie comes to mind, last TR) and with berverly. Leonard you are fucked.

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I kind of agree with you... this smells like shenny from here.. and i'm living far away from US.. Oh dear lord!! Amy and stuart? LOL! here we go writers good job!!!

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1 hour ago, Tonstar17 said:

Great looks like another Shenny episode. Where penny & Sheldon? Probably being a nice guy to his best friends wife (bernie comes to mind, last TR) and with berverly. Leonard you are fucked.

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Maybe Bernadette and Penny are helping Sheldon prepare things for a proposal he is going to make to Amy. :girlwink:   Still not sure how Beverly fits into all of this though....

 

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It seems all we know is Leonard, Raj, Stuart, and Howard appear to be in the lobby in a movie theater and Stuart was in a car with Amy. What else happens with the Sheldon Penny and Bernadette is anyone's guess. There is no guarantee how they fit or are with in the episode.

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Whatever happens in 9×23 will be a continuation onto the final. It will be a 2 part story with a cliffhanger at the end involving lenny. I still think secrets will be revealed from the past or present.

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