[Spoilers] Discussion Topic: Season 9

[djsurrey]

36 minutes ago, JE7 said:

A hint or promise of a redo next season could be a play to keep pissed off fans from stewing all summer and not tuning in for season 10

It sounds just like the kind of semi-desperate ratings ploy TPTB seem so fond of the last few seasons only trying for good chatter over the summer instead of the bad vibes of the last two hiatus's

I'd think they should want a positive buzz all summer.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, luminous said:

Well, the folded orange napkins on the tables in the banquet hall/restaurant set up seem to be an indication for many, that a re-do is unlikely. Also Caltech's school colors are orange and white.

My neighbour's car is also orange, what's your point?  I dunno, I wouldn't read too much into the color of the napkins. If they're truly representing the colors of the university, they would be orange AND white, don't you think?

I'm gonna stick with a wedding party of some sort. Beverly and Penny talked about it one episode earlier, so I'm assuming both episodes are kind of connected in some way. Not sure why they would delay the whole thing when Beverly is in town already. Also, when Johnny talked about Hirsch's appearence, he said: "If that story comes up...". I'm not sure what story he was talking about, but my first guess would be a re-do because, in an older article (around the middle of S9 I think) he said he would love to see a re-do. The whole thing makes sense to me.

For those saying there's not enough time to do that... It doesn't take much to call a restaurant and ask for a wedding reception.

[mirs1]

14 minutes ago, FileXxX said:

My neighbour's car is also orange, what's your point?  I dunno, I wouldn't read too much into the color of the napkins. If they're truly representing the colors of the university, they would be orange AND white, don't you think?

I'm gonna stick with a wedding party of some sort. Beverly and Penny talked about it one episode earlier, so I'm assuming both episodes are kind of connected in some way. Not sure why they would delay the whole thing when Beverly is in town already. Also, when Johnny talked about Hirsch's appearence, he said: "If that story comes up...". I'm not sure what story he was talking about, but my first guess would be a re-do because, in an older article (around the middle of S9 I think) he said he would love to see a re-do. The whole thing makes sense to me.

For those saying there's not enough time to do that... It doesn't take much to call a restaurant and ask for a wedding reception.

I agree with you that it doesn't make much sense to delay everything to next season, since Beverly is in Pasadena right now and Leonard's father will be there too in a short time. Anyway, the person who attended the tour described the restaurant set in the Shamy thread, and it didn't look so wedding-sh, TBH, no dance floor, no head table, stuff like that; it didn't look like work related too, IMO, so I don't know what to think right now. I still hope it's a wedding party but, just for avoiding disappointments, maybe it's better to keep expectations a bit low.

Edited April 25, 2016 by mirs1

[luminous]

33 minutes ago, FileXxX said:

My neighbour's car is also orange, what's your point?  I dunno, I wouldn't read too much into the color of the napkins. If they're truly representing the colors of the university, they would be orange AND white, don't you think?

Pardon? I just tried to give you an answer to a question you asked.

I read absolutely nothing into the color of the napkins. I just echoed what others have previously written in this thread. I also wrote "indication for many" (or some), that doesn't include me.

I'm a Lenny. Of course I'm gonna stick with a wedding party of some sort, too.

In less than 48 hours we should know the secret of the orange napkins.

Edited April 25, 2016 by luminous

[mirs1]

8 hours ago, camelliayao said:

There really was only one scene in 9x22 about the prototype. It worked; Sheldon recorded it and fainted. That's all. The rest was just Leonard worrying about the military use. But they did tell Zack their invention was very cool and meaningful. 

I don't like the guiding system storyline to be honest. Because it's really really boring... In the past when we have episodes about their work, they were a mix of science and comedy. For example, the one where Sheldon exchanged papers with Kripke, the one where Sheldon tried to figure out why electrons act as if they have no mass moving through graphene, the one where Sheldon and Raj worked together etc. Those were some funny episodes. With Sheldon and Leonard's paper, at least we have the one with Professor Hawking and the helium episode. There were still some comedy. But with the guiding system? I just struggled to find anything funny.

Also the show makes scientific research look really easy these days. Like most of the time the boys just play and watch comic books and TV shows. Once in a while they get inspired and do some work and it turns out to be a huge success. Leonard got the inspiration about their paper during dinner, Sheldon wrote the paper overnight (I know he's brilliant, but aren't all physicists brilliant? I don't suppose they can all write papers in a few hours). Howard thought of the guiding system right after he wanted an idea to make more money. Because life is just that awesome. And while we're on the subject, why is Raj being left out? He missed the opportunity to make a huge discovery in science because he was busy making jams... And on one hand we have the other three making big breakthroughs at work, on the other hand we have Raj, dating two women (probably three in the future) and feeling proud of himself. Ugh...

I'm not particularly fond of this plot line either; maybe it's because I'm kind of a romantic, I've always liked the fact that those guys were into science because they loved it and not because they want to earn money; the prototype, instead, was created just for that. Of course the writers are not making Howard, Sheldon and Leonard become Ricky Rich- rich, the plot device about their (low) share in the patent profits had also that purpose, they will always be the passionate guys that prefer education over money, but still...As for Raj being left out of it, it's just because it was not his idea, nor his own expertise. In general you get your name on project if you can give some contribution to it; as Leonard put it, it was his intuition about the theory (and his expertise in texting the theory with an experiment and in building the prototype), Sheldon's Maths, and Howard's idea about the guiding system (and expertise in building the prototype). Raj could not fit in the project in any possible way. Anyhow, you are right, he didn't do much work this season, apart for the asteroid (which was actually found out by Sheldon), he was otherwise engaged this season and apparently he is enjoying it. Ugh...

Edited April 25, 2016 by mirs1

[JE7]

2 hours ago, djsurrey said:

I'd think they should want a positive buzz all summer

 

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For many fans especially Lennie's after the last two seasons it's to late for that

Edited April 25, 2016 by JE7
WTF!!!!! I hate this quote system

[Chrismo]

3 hours ago, mirs1 said:

I agree with you that it doesn't make much sense to delay everything to next season, since Beverly is in Pasadena right now and Leonard's father will be there too in a short time. Anyway, the person who attended the tour described the restaurant set in the Shamy thread, and it didn't look so wedding-sh, TBH, no dance floor, no head table, stuff like that; it didn't look like work related too, IMO, so I don't know what to think right now. I still hope it's a wedding party but, just for avoiding disappointments, maybe it's better to keep expectations a bit low.

I don't think there would be enough planning time to set up a more formal wedding reception with a traditional head table dance floor etc. it could be just the group going to a restaurant. In actuality I suppose both an award and a redo is possible since everyone is there. I can't imagine the award there getting is that big a deal. They may not even show them getting the award. The napkins they could have just taken from the school. More of interest to me is Leonard bedroom. I don't think any parents are hooking up and I can't imagine a Lenny bed scene in the episode.

Edited April 25, 2016 by Chrismo

[Guest]

3 hours ago, luminous said:

Pardon? I just tried to give you an answer to a question you asked.

I read absolutely nothing into the color of the napkins. I just echoed what others have previously written in this thread. I also wrote "indication for many" (or some), that doesn't include me.

I'm a Lenny. Of course I'm gonna stick with a wedding party of some sort, too.

In less than 48 hours we should know the secret of the orange napkins.

Whoops, sorry. I misunderstood. I knew why people talked about the napkins, it just didn't make any sense to me, that's why I asked. It sounded like you were one of them.

 

16 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

More of interest to me is Leonard bedroom. I don't think any parents are hooking up and I can't imagine a Lenny bed scene in the episode.

It could just be Penny telling Leonard about his mother and how she's upset because she was excluded from their wedding. You'd think she needs to tell him after sex.

25 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

I don't think there would be enough planning time to set up a more formal wedding reception with a traditional head table dance floor etc. it could be just the group going to a restaurant.

I didn't think they'd do more than that anyway. Just a simple but nice get-together. I never assumed they'd get "married" again, with flowers and dancing and vows and all that.

[Chrismo]

5 minutes ago, FileXxX said:

 

It could just be Penny telling Leonard about his mother and how she's upset because she was excluded from their wedding. You'd think she needs to tell him after sex.

I didn't think they'd do more than that anyway. Just a simple but nice get-together. I never assumed they'd get "married" again, with flowers and dancing and vows and all that.

I was actually talking about a bed scene in the finale. In the second to last episode my fanfiction wild guess is Beverly is there for the award the guys are getting. I could see Sheldon inviting her, not Leonard. I think it will be a surprise to him she's there. That's why Sheldon's not yet at the movie. I'm guessing maybe Penny (or Bernadette) drove with Sheldon to the airport to get Beverly while Amy drove Stuart to the theater to save his spot in line.

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

I was actually talking about a bed scene in the finale.

Me too. I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing 9.23 ended with Beverly's confession and Penny hasn't told Leonard yet. I could be wrong, though. If that's not the case... it could just be a random bed scene, just like in last week's episode.

[mirs1]

My guess for 9.23, instead, is that Beverly is in town for something work-related. The show begins with the boys at the movies and the girls and Beverly having a girls night in 4B. Things got a little intense there, since Beverly is even worse than usual and Penny asks Sheldon to come home to help them. Sheldon needs Stuart to hold his place in line, so Amy drives him to the theater and Sheldon at home. In the meantime, at 4B Beverly spills the beans about her disappointment for the wedding and Penny offers the redo, so when Sheldon and Amy arrive, everything is already solved.

Edited April 25, 2016 by mirs1

[Chrismo]

6 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

My guess for 9.23, instead, is that Beverly is in town for something work-related. The show begins with the boys at the movies and the girls and Beverly having a girls night in 4B. Things got a little intense there, since Beverly is even worse than usual and Penny asks Sheldon to come home to help them. Sheldon needs Stuart to hold his place in line, so Amy takes him to the theater and Sheldon at home. In the meantime, at 4B Beverly spills the beans about her disappointment for the wedding and Penny offers the redo, so when Sheldon and Amy arrive, everything is already solved.

I'm not sure why Penny would call Sheldon since he doesn't drive. She's definitely not there for a redo. That's why I thought Sheldon was never there to begin with.

[Lady in Red]

2 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

I'm not sure why Penny would call Sheldon since he doesn't drive. She's definitely not there for a redo. That's why I thought Sheldon was never there to begin with.

I like mirs1 scenario since it flows nicely.  Penny would ask for Sheldon to come home because he gets along very well with Beverly. 

Edited April 25, 2016 by Lady in Red

[Nogravitasatall]

21 hours ago, Tensor said:

Or one of the parents (or two) are sleeping In Leonard's bed.  Or maybe Leonard is packing because he's leaving. 

 

http://www.nytimes.com/1983/04/17/arts/sometimes-a-tv-character-steps-out-and-stays-out.html?pagewanted=all

Could this happen? I doubt it. But I caught up with  the cabin in the woods episode. Even Leonard is noting that she treats him mean. What is going on?

[mirs1]

27 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

I'm not sure why Penny would call Sheldon since he doesn't drive. She's definitely not there for a redo. That's why I thought Sheldon was never there to begin with.

He is the only one who can handle (and who likes) Beverly, maybe  Penny called him to ask some help because things  got too awkward  and Amy was the one who drove him home. Of course it's just guessing, I was trying to figure out where Sheldon spent the whole episode if he was not in line with the others and apparently there weren't other guest stars involved. According to the few information we have (of course take it with a grain of salt) Beverly was with the girls in 4B during the episode, it looked like she arrived before the episode even started. The discussion about the re-do apparently also happened during the girls night, but it's not clear how they broached the subject and how the discussion ended or if Leonard was there too and he agreed with it.

Edited April 25, 2016 by mirs1

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

He is the only one who can handle (and who likes) Beverly, maybe  Penny called him to ask some help because things  got too awkward  and Amy was the one who drove him home. Of course it's just guessing, I was trying to figure out where Sheldon spent the whole episode if he was not in line with the others and apparently there weren't other guest stars involved. According to the few information we have (of course take it with a grain of salt) Beverly was with the girls in 4B during the episode, it looked like she arrived before the episode even started. The discussion about the re-do apparently also happened during the girls night, but it's not clear how they broached the subject and how the discussion ended or if Leonard was there too and he agreed with it.

I'm pretty damn sure Sheldon leaves the line because of Beverly. He's always excited when she's in town.

[Lady in Red]

14 hours ago, camelliayao said:

There really was only one scene in 9x22 about the prototype. It worked; Sheldon recorded it and fainted. That's all. The rest was just Leonard worrying about the military use. But they did tell Zack their invention was very cool and meaningful. 

I don't like the guiding system storyline to be honest. Because it's really really boring...

I actually know engineers who have developed guidance systems, so I'm finding the topic quite interesting.  These devices are used in aircraft, missiles, submarines and satellites.  Leonard would/should know this, so I will be disappointed if this turns out to be a huge concern for him.  Of course, everyone handles the eventual use of their discoveries in different ways.  But the discovery itself is a wonderful thing, and the scientist has no control over what happens next.

[camelliayao]

5 hours ago, mirs1 said:

I'm not particularly fond of this plot line either; maybe it's because I'm kind of a romantic, I've always liked the fact that those guys were into science because they loved it and not because they want to earn money; the prototype, instead, was created just for that. Of course the writers are not making Howard, Sheldon and Leonard become Ricky Rich- rich, the plot device about their (low) share in the patent profits had also that purpose, they will always be the passionate guys that prefer education over money, but still...As for Raj being left out of it, it's just because it was not his idea, nor his own expertise. In general you get your name on project if you can give some contribution to it; as Leonard put it, it was his intuition about the theory (and his expertise in texting the theory with an experiment and in building the prototype), Sheldon's Maths, and Howard's idea about the guiding system (and expertise in building the prototype). Raj could not fit in the project in any possible way. Anyhow, you are right, he didn't do much work this season, apart for the asteroid (which was actually found out by Sheldon), he was otherwise engaged this season and apparently he is enjoying it. Ugh...

Oh what I meant was not Raj being left out of this project, but being left out of achievements in science this season. He doesn't really work in seasons...

[stardustmelody]

 

[hokie3457]

5 minutes ago, stardustmelody said:

 

Nice that the staff likes him......It seems so collegial there!

[djsurrey]

5 hours ago, Nogravitasatall said:

http://www.nytimes.com/1983/04/17/arts/sometimes-a-tv-character-steps-out-and-stays-out.html?pagewanted=all

Could this happen? I doubt it. But I caught up with  the cabin in the woods episode. Even Leonard is noting that she treats him mean. What is going on?

There is an option in their contracts for season 11. I expect the main cast will be back short of a tragic accident.

Penny made a comment about his hat. It was a joke.

Edited April 25, 2016 by djsurrey

[Chrismo]

2 hours ago, mirs1 said:

He is the only one who can handle (and who likes) Beverly, maybe  Penny called him to ask some help because things  got too awkward  and Amy was the one who drove him home. Of course it's just guessing, I was trying to figure out where Sheldon spent the whole episode if he was not in line with the others and apparently there weren't other guest stars involved. According to the few information we have (of course take it with a grain of salt) Beverly was with the girls in 4B during the episode, it looked like she arrived before the episode even started. The discussion about the re-do apparently also happened during the girls night, but it's not clear how they broached the subject and how the discussion ended or if Leonard was there too and he agreed with it.

That would mean she picked up Sheldon at the theater brought him back and then brought Stuart back to the theater. The picture never shows Sheldon in line.

3 hours ago, Lady in Red said:

I like mirs1 scenario since it flows nicely.  Penny would ask for Sheldon to come home because he gets along very well with Beverly. 

But penny has dealt with Beverly in the past. I don't see that being a big deal.

[mirs1]

The Futon Critic 

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/showatch/big-bang-theory/listings/

gives as a title of 9.24 "The convergence convergence"...Is that relatable? I've found the news on TBBT wiki, so I was not very willing to believe it, but they had this link as a source. What do you think?

Edited April 25, 2016 by mirs1

[Swedish Chef]

11 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

The Futon Critic 

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/showatch/big-bang-theory/listings/

gives at title of 9.24 "The convergence convergence"...Is that relatable? I've found the news on TBBT wiki, so I was not very willing to believe it, but they had this link as a source. What do you think?

I have no idea to be honest, but it not totally impossible that it is right. The convergence could be about a redo, or something else 

Edited April 25, 2016 by Lagernisse

[hokie3457]

17 minutes ago, Lagernisse said:

I have no idea to be honest, but it not totally impossible that it is right. The convergence could be about a redo, or something else 

Ah! Lagernisse, I like it.  An awards ceremoney for Howard, Leonard & Sheldon; PLUS a reaffirmation of their wedding vows, a surprise by Mrs. Hofstadter, as her husband's parents are in town......(and a Raj slap-down by Emily & Claire as a cliff-hanger!)....