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Well, Shamy are leading in their most heart-warming moment category while the Shenny nightmare is losing out to Criminal Minds in their most shocking category - so why exactly are we worried again? lol

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10 minutes ago, April said:

Well, Shamy are leading in their most heart-warming moment category while the Shenny nightmare is losing out to Criminal Minds in their most shocking category - so why exactly are we worried again? lol

Is someone actually worried?

I think it is wonderful that we somehow got from 1.02 (She was totally creped out) to a place that Penny and Sheldon can enjoy each others company and it is not just this from 3.03...

 

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FYI, I've seen a promo of today episode from CTV, I'm not posting it since I didn't find the original source; anyway, Leonard is playing the game with Penny and Sheldon (at least at some point he enters the room and plays with them) and seems pretty acquainted with the rules, so maybe it is something that goes on pretty often in 4A...

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4 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

FYI, I've seen a promo of today episode from CTV, I'm not posting it since I didn't find the original source; anyway, Leonard is playing the game with Penny and Sheldon (at least at some point he enters the room and plays with them) and seems pretty acquainted with the rules, so maybe it is something that goes on pretty often in 4A...

Here you go....

 

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Bill Nye was on Dancing with the stars ? Didn't know that. 

6 hours ago, April said:

Well, Shamy are leading in their most heart-warming moment category while the Shenny nightmare is losing out to Criminal Minds in their most shocking category - so why exactly are we worried again? lol

Good to know . Do you have the  link to the CBS voting thing ?  

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35 minutes ago, serena_nyc1995 said:

Bill Nye was on Dancing with the stars ? Didn't know that. 

Good to know . Do you have the  link to the CBS voting thing ?  

I don't know if Amy is into GOT. Maybe she just watches it coz Leonard, Sheldon and Penny watch it. But it would be nice if she ranted about the kinda questionable aspects of the show regarding women and violence. Or point out why GOT in inferior to the authentic medival literature, she reads.  Its the kind of thing I would expect Amy to rant about. 

http://www.cbs.com/shows/drive-to-perform/driven-to-make-our-jaws-drop/#vote

try above

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I loved the Sheldon/Penny opening scene, the Howard/Bernie Tag scene, Raj's chair and Shamy's back and forth with Stuart was funny. Also liked Beverly and Amy bonding. 

Didn't enjoy Sheldon's line substitution speech with the DMV guy though. Didn't enjoy Beverly with Penny- it was repetative behavior she has with Leonard, nothing new.

But what exactly were they shopping for ? They never revealed what they were buying together. 

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1 hour ago, serena_nyc1995 said:

But what exactly were they shopping for ? They never revealed what they were buying together.

Shopping :icon_eek: 

The thing about shopping is one can never just get what they are going for. No, one spends time looking at everything else that looks at all interesting. Then there is the hidden agenda....

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2 hours ago, legacy99 said:

If this espiode is the best tptb can give us i think season 10 should be the end

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Exactly. I feel like watching the show is like taking risks right now. Because basically in every episode the writers take away something special from Shamy/Lenny. 

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On May 5, 2016 at 10:49 AM, April said:

Well, Shamy are leading in their most heart-warming moment category while the Shenny nightmare is losing out to Criminal Minds in their most shocking category - so why exactly are we worried again? lol

Apparently TBBT's ratings have just hit 6 and 8 year lows, doing as well as season 1 ratings, which are their lowest. Still won the night, but their ratings numbers have dropped by millions. Considering that Opening Night was one of their highest rated episodes ever, a drop of that many viewers over less than half a season might cause some concern, no?

Opening Night ratings - 17.2 million the evening it aired, went to 23 million with +3 ratings.

last night's episode - 12.2. 

So a 5 million viewer drop between the two evenings, for people who tuned in to watch it Thursday night. For Shamies, you'd think that's a good thing, as the couple is popular. Which is why I find it almost un fathomable to see them regress now. 

But it's not completely impossible to understand. I said almost un fathomable, but I can see a twinge of logic, or at least writer's logic, in what's happening.

 Molars said in an interview this season that having Leonard leave 4A would change the show in some way, that we shouldn't look for him to move out because it would change what people expect the show to look like if that happened. They have created a boundary which they are unwilling to cross. As a result, I think they slam themselves against the wall repeatedly with the character's internal motivations and actions, rehashing the same tired stuff, because anything else would carry them forward where they are unwilling to go. The episode where Leonard and Penny's fighting over whose relationship with Sheldon is more messed up, all related to their living arrangements, which was abruptly ended and abandoned by the deux es machina of Howard's peanut allergy is a good illustration of it. The writers push them towards the point something should break, but save themselves with an outside distraction, something from left field to get them out of their corner. 

The living arrangements affect a lot. As Tensor points out, it's financial folly to pay for two apartments if one isn't being lived in. If Penny has credit card debt and Leonard has student loans, why are they paying for the unused apartment? Why don't they talk about this stuff since financial issues, and the secrets they keep from each other about them, keep cropping up as hot topics? Well you can't, or the living arrangements become too glaringly stupid. 

The living arrangements are also going to stifle Amy and Sheldon too, and it's safer to play that Sheldon indeed has no sexual drive or interest despite the fact he's tasted the forbidden fruit, because you know if Shamy progressed and Amy started spending the night, and Lenny overheard them having sex in his room, they would be vacating so fast! Increased sexual intimacy or an engagement would hurry Lenny out of 4A, and they won't do that, so they have to drop back to status quo. But in doing so, they've regressed and ruined all the season's earlier progress. After all the reasoning I heard about how the break up was necessary to create Shamy progress, and the jubilation over the progress reached once they reunited, I don't understand how the same voices who were so stringent about the break up being necessary for growth can be satisfied with this pay off. 

The parallel reversals are the icing on the cake for me. Sheldon gave up Star Wars for Amy, but blows her off for a lesser movie. Leonard financially floated Penny for years, finally buying her a car. Penny becomes flush and sells the car, proud to be making bank, and buying poor Leonard with his student loans toys to cheer him up. Now Leonard has secret savings and Penny has credit card debt, so she can't give up her job and he won't give her money. The flip flopping about their finances is illogical, and more relevant than ever as they are married and their financial situation happens to affect the other. Raj melted Emily by being so guilty over also merely emailing with Lucy; she thought his sensitivity was adorable. Now he's completely different, bedding two girls at once, bragging about it, being callous to a woman he dated for two years. Beverly thanked Penny for not inviting her to the wedding, now she's hurt by being left out. It's not just incongruous, it's directly incongruous, which is one of the weirdest things about it. I mean, it's just ironic that Sheldon sacrificed the Star Wars premiere just a few months ago, but tosses her for a lesser movie here. 

Molaro said that they could go with Bernie being pregnant, but not Penny, because whatever happens to Bernie won't change anything, while what happens to Penny does. So they are unwilling to take risks or make changes, and the problem is that they have turned potential stepping stones for plots into massive stumbling blocks. 

I think that the ratings are beginning to reflect that issue.

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