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I was hoping that as the time passes after the info we got about the 2nd episode, I would start to feel less bad about it all.

But it's only getting worse, I really so no way for TPTB to redeem the Shamy relationship in a believable way.
From what I understand, Sheldon continues to stalk Amy in his attempt to get her back, while she needs the opposite.

Do we really believe Sheldon will suddenly back off?

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You know Carlos it's just her way, and those that vocally sympathize with her, of telling those people that don't agree with her that they are watching the show wrong.  

or maybe she simply has opinions about other peoples opinions.

Sheldon's mom won't be available...Laurie is doing Broadway this fall and will be unavailable...Misery with Bruce Willis begins previews October 22nd and the play opens November 15th for a 16 week run.

http://www.broadway.com/buzz/180823/laurie-metcalf-will-replace-elizabeth-marvel-in-bruce-willis-led-misery-on-broadway-dates-theater-set/

season 2 has showed us that a phone call will suffice. :p

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I was hoping that as the time passes after the info we got about the 2nd episode, I would start to feel less bad about it all.

But it's only getting worse, I really so no way for TPTB to redeem the Shamy relationship in a believable way.
From what I understand, Sheldon continues to stalk Amy in his attempt to get her back, while she needs the opposite.

Do we really believe Sheldon will suddenly back off?

He'll not. If the writirs keep implying that he's being through the five stages of grief (break up in this case), then next week he'll try to negotiate to win her back. He's desperated, it was expected (I expected).

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He'll not. If the writirs keep implying that he's being through the five stages of grief (break up in this case), then next week he'll try to negotiate to win her back. He's desperated, it was expected (I expected).

If true,where does Amy's space she needs come in?

I can see, despite Sheldon's five stages, him not backing off, and therefor not giving Amy what she needs now.

That way she can not think about what she wants and expects of the future.

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If true,where does Amy's space she needs come in?

I can see, despite Sheldon's five stages, him not backing off, and therefor not giving Amy what she needs now.

That way she can not think about what she wants and expects of the future.

She'll get her space at the end, with the conclusion/acceptance, probably.

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She'll get her space at the end, with the conclusion/acceptance, probably.

Sounds like its going to be half a season before they are back together, 5-6 for Sheldon to go through his stages, stalking Amy along the way.

Then the equal amount to give Amy her space

Sounds dreadful.

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So, I haven't read either of the taping reports; 50% because I'm too lazy to click into the thread and read and 50% because it's a new thing I do since last season where I allow myself a few surprises by not reading the taping reports :icon_cheesygrin:. That being said, I just wanted to make a few comments on what I do know about so far:

I came into this thread and as I got into it, I couldn't help but start laughing when I realized I totally misunderstood what Kazzie mentioned to me earlier today about this dream that Leonard had. For some reason, I thought he had a Shamy dream. LOL! I thought, that's odd that he has a hard on for Shamy (:icon_wink:) but I'll go with it. LOL.

 I come to this from and saw the reality: it was a Shenny dream. WHAT???? Wow. Shocking. Doesn't bother me because like someone else mentioned, or probably a few of you mentioned, it makes total sense that he would have such a dream. He cheated on Penny by kissing another woman so here is his paranoia kicking in, "what if she cheated on me like I did to her?" and of course the worse case scenario pops into his head and it's her in a steamy make out session with Sheldon .

There's a lot of people who get creeped out and have very strong, negative opinions about the idea of Sheldon and Penny together. Although there's nothing wrong with that, I don't think I'll ever understand why some people allow a never-gonna-happen pairing to take away from their enjoyment of the show.

Sheldon and Amy: I'm glad they're separated. I'd rather them not be together until Sheldon can figure things out so that he can treat Amy the way she deserves to be treated. She also has some kinks she can work out in herself too. This is a good thing. I'll save the list for why this is a good thing for the Shamy thread :cool:.

Leonard and Penny: these two have my head spinning....maybe the writers too. LOL. Let's start with the fact that Leonard and Penny deserve more than just a Vegas wedding. Well, maybe the fact that they ran off to Vegas to get married would have meant more if they didn't have issues going into it. Season 8 started off with Penny annoying the hell out of me. She proposed to Leonard at least twice before then, was so sure she was ready to commit for REAL. Leonard proposes to her, they were all good and then in that episode she and Leonard went on that double date with Shamy, she was being sort of bitchy towards Leonard and was suddenly unsure of their relationship again. WHAT??

Then we find out in the last episode that perhaps she had a good reason because Leonard admitted to kissing another woman while they were dating. So now, the guy who I think is so sure of his feelings for Penny and their relationship, is suddenly no different from her, plus he's a cheater. They way I see it, they shouldn't be married yet. Them getting married like that will only create more problems in the future.

There's lots of work to do on these two couples, that's for sure. I look forward to the journey and I hope everything works out the way WE want it :cool::shy::icon_twisted:.

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How will the living arrangement change? IMO, starting from Episode 3, Lenny will move out. It will be really ridiculous to keep them in 4A after the wedding, there will be more comedy in exploring their adjustments to the new life as a married couple and Sheldon's reaction to their moving; plus, if the theory of the stage of grief Sheldon is passing through is right, when he arrives to the depression stage, keeping him alone will give more intensity to the moment. Anyway, since there is also the Stuart/Howard/Bernadette situation to be considered, I will not be surprised if at least an attempt is made (by H&B) for Stuart to move in with Sheldon; maybe he won't resist one single day or Sheldon will kick him out immediately or won't accept at all to have a new roommate, but I think that this solution will be mentioned at some point.

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Sounds like its going to be half a season before they are back together, 5-6 for Sheldon to go through his stages, stalking Amy along the way.

Then the equal amount to give Amy her space

Sounds dreadful.

I don't think he's going to be stalking her the whole time.  I think he'll calm down enough to give her the space she needs while he simultaneously deals with his very intense emotions.  It'll just take some time for the dust to settle.

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To protect himself from vulnerability and enforce compliance to his will, Sheldon has always relied on logic as his weapon of choice.   He hasn't quite grasped the fact that the order of the day is not about being right or being the victim and protecting himself from pain, but about throwing away all logic, giving into to his vulnerability, and winning Amy back through understanding and reassurance.   He doesn't get that what Amy needs to hear him say is literally, "I am ready for us to start planning for a future and family together".    Someone is going to have to show him what he is doing wrong.  Perhaps this will be Penny or even Amy, or he will Google it, or he will just figure it out..

 

I had an epiphany that maybe Sheldon would get to talk to Beverley. She might explain his dilemma in a cold, logical, psychological way giving him the oppertunity to approach things from a different angle. Not my favorite, though. I'd prefer Professor Proton reappearing as Sheldon's Obi Wan. In this case Sheldon would figure it out by himself.

Or maybe something completely different...

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I had an epiphany that maybe Sheldon would get to talk to Beverley. She might explain his dilemma in a cold, logical, psychological way giving him the oppertunity to approach things from a different angle. Not my favorite, though. I'd prefer Professor Proton reappearing as Sheldon's Obi Wan. In this case Sheldon would figure it out by himself.

Or maybe something completely different...

Getting relationship advice from Beverly would be new. Not sure it would be advisable.

With the upcoming release of sw7 It would be nice to have PP force ghost back but I have doubts. Perhaps he will get advice from someone new.

If Leonard moves out I wonder if Raj will move in. Perhaps Emily will scare the landlord and get Raj evicted from were he his is now. Just fanciful shot in the dark,

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I have one question and if it has been raised before, my apologies.  There is a bra in the box that Sheldon claims to believe is Amy's.  I know that this is just a ruse, but when could he claim that Amy would have left that Bra.  Yes they had a sleep over, but she did not bring a change of clothes.  So is it the assumption that she wore all her other clothing the next day, but decided to go bra less.

 

 

 

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It seems to me that the 200th episode is going to mainly be something about Shamy, maybe it will be them getting back together or an engagement, based on where they are now.

Engagement would be nice (assuming they get back together during November sweeps) and wedding can be season final episode(s).

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I have one question and if it has been raised before, my apologies.  There is a bra in the box that Sheldon claims to believe is Amy's.  I know that this is just a ruse, but when could he claim that Amy would have left that Bra.  Yes they had a sleep over, but she did not bring a change of clothes.  So is it the assumption that she wore all her other clothing the next day, but decided to go bra less.

 

 

 

My assumption and correct me if I am wrong anyone who saw. Is that is why it was ridiculous that she would never of had a chance to leave it. So obviously he was trying to get her goat. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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It seems to me that the 200th episode is going to mainly be something about Shamy, maybe it will be them getting back together or an engagement, based on where they are now.

I'd like to think so, it will be amazing...But in the 100th episode happened something rather "unexpected", I was not in the fandom right then, but watching Season 5 as an almost  "casual" viewer as I was at the time, there where not many clues, apart from one episode before, that Lenny were going to be again a couple, JMO. Now, Shamy engagement is something people expect, the ring was the final bomb in the finale...I don't know how Season 9 will evolve, maybe they will mess up Shamy so much that when they return to be a couple it will be a big surprise for everybody...I hope that doesn't happen, anyway!

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Sheldon's mom won't be available...Laurie is doing Broadway this fall and will be unavailable...Misery with Bruce Willis begins previews October 22nd and the play opens November 15th for a 16 week run.

http://www.broadway.com/buzz/180823/laurie-metcalf-will-replace-elizabeth-marvel-in-bruce-willis-led-misery-on-broadway-dates-theater-set/

I thought someone on the BBT board said there would be some interaction between Mary and Amy this season?  Maybe in the 2nd half of it?

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