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6 hours ago, Tensor said:

Our weekly schedule for the first four or five months was Wife got up at four AM to feed, and dress our daughter.I got up at five, to watch our daughter, while my wife got her shower.  while I cooked breakfast and eat.  I would get mine while she ate and got dressed, then I would get dressed.  We'd leave the house around 6:15, so we could drop our daughter at the babysitters and get to work by seven.

We would get home around five, either would cook, with the other took care of the baby.  My wife fed her at six then eight, and go to bed.  I would do the 10 PM and midnight feeding.  With my wife taking care of the 2 AM feeding, then start all over again at four AM.  

NO, I'M NOT KIDDING.   :shy:

Yup. Feelin' it bro' . Though we had three hourly feeds not two hourly.  That was after 11 days ventilation, 6 weeks in neo-natal intensive care and a total of 11 weeks in hospital.  1lb 11oz (765g) at lowest ebb. Thank goodness for socialised medicine and surfactants. And for being young and able to cope with the sleep deprivation. But we were lucky. Others have it tougher.

Nothing at all to do with s9.... :)

Hope any babies on the show are bouncy!

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11 hours ago, Kennykoala said:

I agree. It is weird. TBBT now has two married couples and a long pairing so why talk about pairing these characters with Friends characters?

If TBBT characters were to interact with one or more Friends characters could it not be without being in a relationship? Geesh.

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4 minutes ago, djsurrey said:

I agree. It is weird. TBBT now has two married couples and a long pairing so why talk about pairing these characters with Friends characters?

If TBBT characters were to interact with one or more Friends characters could it not be without being in a relationship? Geesh.

All in good fun lol. Hey cast of Friends could guest star in s10. As Leonard and Sheldons long lost friend's.

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28 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

All in good fun lol. Hey cast of Friends could guest star in s10. As Leonard and Sheldons long lost friend's.

Sheldon did not have friends before Leonard came along. If they were to be some tbbt characters friends I'd guess they would be Penny's. What would Sheldon or Leonard have in common with the cast of friends? Ross was a paleontologist. While I think paleontology is interesting I kind of doubt that Sheldon would think it any better than geology and we know how he reacts to that.

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6 minutes ago, JE7 said:

I was staying with up till this sentance then you showed your political bias and to me destroyed your credibility as a fair commentator

My political bias? Do you mean my belief in the equality of men and women? Do you disagree then? Do you think women should adher to a set of rules different to those that are applied to men?

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3 minutes ago, ATOB said:

I don't know that I agree with this. I think Raj would have been very up for an actual relationship with Penny, as would've Howard if he ever had even the slightest chance....ever.

Now, as for the "settling for Leonard" mentioned elsewhere, yes, in every relationship that ever existed, people have 'settled' for each other. That's what you do. That's what you do because people aren't perfect. Life isn't a fairy-tale. You 'settle' because you can't be without that person regardless of their boring interests or their snoring or their fat ass. You 'settle' coz you love them just as they are, even though they might be a bit shit, but hey you're a bit shit too, what a match!

As for the Raj / Penny sex, if Raj is a douche then so is Penny, why the double-standard? Both were drunk. Both were lonely. Two friends together who enjoy sex. Both unattached. Why not? Yet Penny is the 'victim' because she is female? Yes, Penny was regretful in the morning but how much of that was due to patriarchal conditioning? Penny's a slut!/Fist bump Raj, what a stud! Why shouldn't recreational sex be enjoyed between two friends who find each other attractive, regardless of which gender made the first move (and why are we so sure it was Raj that put the moves on Penny, she's a big ol' 5 after all, likes to initiate most of the time)? Penny is not a chattel, she doesn't have property of Leonard Hofstadter stamped on her back. Penny's body is her own; as is Raj's. 

Their bodies; their business.

Because people can't let go of sex being tied to procreation being tied to property rights? I don't know.  I think sex is so over valued. And this show built five years of prosperity on that valuation. 

Leonard and Penny got sex out the way is season 3. The fun for me was watching them being attracted, become friends, then  become lovers then them going back to being friends and then realising that, despite other options, they were each other's best choice.

Contrast five years of Shamy, being the best choice from the get go and knowing it, but teasing out the nookie for five years. "Birds do it, bees do it, even educated fleas do it..."  went the song but these two got hung up on it and that became a primary hook for apparently a large part of the audience. 

I blame society. It should be easier to get laid, and damnit we are now a technological species and we don't have to be victims of our biology. We need to evolve our mindsets to accomodate these options. Call me liberal and progressive, but the world has changed. We need to catch up. And um, not always base decisions on traditional received wisdoms.

/ rant.

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13 minutes ago, ATOB said:

My political bias? Do you mean my belief in the equality of men and women? Do you disagree then? Do you think women should adher to a set of rules different to those that are applied to men?

The concept of the patriarchy as you use it is a political construct to excuse the behavior of one gender by blaming the other for causing it. That is far from equality

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6 minutes ago, Nogravitasatall said:

Because people can't let go of sex being tied to procreation being tied to property rights? I don't know.  I think sex is so over valued. And this show built five years of prosperity on that valuation. 

Leonard and Penny got sex out the way is season 3. The fun for me was watching them being attracted, become friends, then  become lovers then them going back to being friends and then realising that, despite other options, they were each other's best choice.

Contrast five years of Shamy, being the best choice from the get go and knowing it, but teasing out the nookie for five years. "Birds do it, bees do it, even educated fleas do it..."  went the song but these two got hung up on it and that became a primary hook for apparently a large part of the audience. 

I blame society. It should be easier to get laid, and damnit we are now a technological species and we don't have to be victims of our biology. We need to evolve our mindsets to accomodate these options. Call me liberal and progressive, but the world has changed. We need to catch up. And um, not always base decisions on traditional received wisdoms.

/ rant.

Sheldon and Amy were originally just friends too. They weren't "teasing out the nookie" for five years. And they did break up and get back together later too, only not after already having sex.

 

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2 hours ago, ATOB said:
44 minutes ago, nibbler747 said:

My take was that she is saying that there should be no blame, as neither party did anything wrong.  It was their personal business.  But posters on here are quick to blame either Raj for "taking advantage" or Penny for being "slutty when drunk".  

The whole patriarchy excuse is sexist bs unless you think it is impossible for women to be sexist

Claimg anything Penny may have dine or felt can be laid at the feet of her male oppressers is is simply male bashing

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8 minutes ago, JE7 said:

In a situation where a person does something they expressly said they wouldn't do before the drinking started I feel there is more than enuff reason to consider the possibility that something underhanded took place. And that is what happened, she told him no they began drinking to the extent she blacked out while he didn't. 

The no one is to blame line is a cop out to excuse one of theirs bad behavior the debate is which one. Actions have consequences and responsibility must be taken for one actions. 

Either Penny is a tramp or Raj is a opportunistic ass one of these IS the case we just have differing opinions on which

I consider this and several of your last posts sexist and the  supporting concept offensive and demeaning to men I have asked you to not include it in your posts toe but you can't even ahoqahoq e the courtesy of complying I am done conversing with you ttfn

I look to their reactions the next morning as evidence of any "nefarious" action.  Did Penny look "shocked" that she was in bed with Raj?  That he somehow tricked her into bed when she was drunk.  No.  She looked like "Damn....I wish I hadn't done that."  To me, that implies that she was aware of her faculties when she decided to hook up with Raj.  It was her decision.  It might not be one she was happy with the next day, but oh well.  It doesn't make her a bad person, or a "tramp".

If I were out with friends drinking, and said.  I'm going to go home early, I have to work early the next day.  But then end up having a few drinks, and ending up staying out with them all night.  I regret it the next day.  Did anything underhanded take hand?  No.  I made a decision at some point.  It probably wasn't my best one, but it was MY decision.  Just because I got drunk, and don't remember all the details of the night, doesn't mean I was taken advantage of by my friends.

As far as ATOB's posts demeaning to men, I really can't see it.  Because she made comments about patriarchal society?  One cannot deny that some ways of thinking developed from that kind of society. Both troublesome to men and women alike.   She said both patriarchal AND matriarchal societies are not good. That is not "male-bashing".  She promoted equality of women and men.  So, colour me confused.  Well, it's not my argument to get in the middle of, so I'll stop here.

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