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Is Howard more creepy or more corny in your opinion?

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I can never decide this question in my mind!  Is Howard behavior more creepy or more corny in your opinion?   

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In the early episodes he was kind of creepy but in a pathetic kind of way.  I remember Simon saying that Howard was sort of clueless.  He thought of himself as some kind of suave ladies' man, but he was more of a pathetic loser (in the eyes of the ladies.)

But he was always optimistic about his chances and of his pick-up methods.

I wouldn't say he was corny because there was too much of the perv in his manner--asking about Penny's friend's underwear washing, etc.--and hiring hookers and going to strip clubs, sex robots and all that.

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I think the scavenger hunt when he and amy were in the car together highlighted the changes the best.  He really rode the creepy/corny line before.  But nowadays I think raj is probably more likely to fill that role. 

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I think the scavenger hunt when he and amy were in the car together highlighted the changes the best.  He really rode the creepy/corny line before.  But nowadays I think raj is probably more likely to fill that role. 

Okay this is totally OT but I need to say that I love your avatar Tomasina! :icon_biggrin:

I must ask how did Steve become known as Santa Molaro in the first place?

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Okay this is totally OT but I need to say that I love your avatar Tomasina! :icon_biggrin:

I must ask how did Steve become known as Santa Molaro in the first place?

Something about how season eight was like the writers basically going down the Shamy Christmas Wishlist and checking things off going, "Yes, they have been very good this year," and just giving us everything we could ever ask for. I believe @bigbangsheldon came up with the actual graphic. 

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Yes,  I requested the graphic and chloe designed it.  But I'm thinking of changing it this year to him with devil horns and a pitchfork. 

 

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Yes,  I requested the graphic and chloe designed it.  But I'm thinking of changing it this year to him with devil horns and a pitchfork. 

 

Oh my :icon_surprised: Going from Santa Molaro to Satan Molaro is quite something.

I still have some faith in the writers that they'll fix Shamy by sweeps. But yeah...Let's all just wait and hope for now.

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I think the scavenger hunt when he and amy were in the car together highlighted the changes the best.  He really rode the creepy/corny line before.  But nowadays I think raj is probably more likely to fill that role. 

This is one of my favourite episodes.  It think he was obviously a bit creepy/pervy in an trying too hard/ thinks he was great way in the beginning but has definetely changed for the better once he meet Bernadette.

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Before Bernie, Howard was certainly creepy and corny, but in seasons 6-8 he became a new man. In season 8 he's more sensitive and confident.

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He definitely started out on the rather creepy side for me. I've been hit on by some somewhat skeevy guys in the past so maybe that's why I never found that streak in him particularly funny. But I really started to like him after he got together with Bernie and got some nice story lines. Hooray for character development!

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He definitely started out on the rather creepy side for me. I've been hit on by some somewhat skeevy guys in the past so maybe that's why I never found that streak in him particularly funny. But I really started to like him after he got together with Bernie and got some nice story lines. Hooray for character development!

Yeah he went from being a creepy funny guy to being a boring, maybe even emasculated, non-entity.

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Early Howard was a perfect blend of skeezy and cheesy. "What up, science bitchez?" while parading around an escort. Current Howard is still pretty corny depending on how the writers decide to use him, and occasional creep appears, as in 9:02's comments about Mandy, which are also pretty corny.

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He was more "creepy" in earlier seasons. As for "corny"? Aren't they all? LOL. Anyway, I love the hell out of Howard. Simon deserves an Emmy...8 years ago.

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Early Howard was a perfect blend of skeezy and cheesy. "What up, science bitchez?" while parading around an escort. Current Howard is still pretty corny depending on how the writers decide to use him, and occasional creep appears, as in 9:02's comments about Mandy, which are also pretty corny.

Don't forget Rag was watching Penny jog through battleship binoculars for a while!  Or was that Howard and he blamed it on Raj!!

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Anyway, I love the hell out of Howard. Simon deserves an Emmy...8 years ago.

Couldn't agree more!!! All-round talent powerhouse and frequent MVP. And with all the broad, loud and hilarious aspects of Howard, the quiet, subtle absolute realism SH has brought to the dramatic moments and character development is awesome.

Don't forget Rag was watching Penny jog through battleship binoculars for a while!  Or was that Howard and he blamed it on Raj!!

HA! I will have to go back and research that one. My memory of the heavier surveillance seasons is somewhat hazy. Re: possibly blaming it on Raj, there was an I think Season 8 blooper where SH walks in the apartment, does not say his line, and goes, "You! You!" at KN, who is all, "What did I do?!" I hope I am recounting that right.

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