912 'The Sales Call Sublimation' (January 7)

[Mario D.]

2 hours ago, chucky said:

When you're right,  you're right. Sheldon's problem was he thought he was above everyone else and he was allowed to get by with it. It was funny at the beginning, but once the relationships started it ceased being funny to me. That's why some of my favorite episodes are the ones where he hurts himself or looked like a fool. I'm talking about the Bill Gates episode and the episode where he's jealous of Burt for winning the Mcarthur Gtant award. Those are two of my favorite non-Lenny episodes. 😂

I liked these episodes as well but I remember more the ones where they let Sheldon win:  the itchy sweater where he manipulated by lying and deceit, the blackmail of Priya so he can get his way in the roommate agreement (just a despicable act to a best friend), getting his baby way when Leonard bought a table so they could all eat comfortably, ( a truly  whining rant about having a RA meeting which Leonard did not want to attend and subsequently having Penny side with him instead of her husband (a truly uncharacteristic and rude act by Penny), and of course the selfish act of whining that everyone is leaving him. (probably because he would not have anyone to cater to him)

[chucky]

1 hour ago, Mario D. said:

I liked these episodes as well but I remember more the ones where they let Sheldon win:  the itchy sweater where he manipulated by lying and deceit, the blackmail of Priya so he can get his way in the roommate agreement (just a despicable act to a best friend), getting his baby way when Leonard bought a table so they could all eat comfortably, ( a truly  whining rant about having a RA meeting which Leonard did not want to attend and subsequently having Penny side with him instead of her husband (a truly uncharacteristic and rude act by Penny), and of course the selfish act of whining that everyone is leaving him. (probably because he would not have anyone to cater to him)

I remember those episodes as well. I guess you could say Leonard contributed to Sheldon's actions. Penny as well. They didn't call him out or force him to do things himself. I think that Mary was the main contributor to Sheldon thinking he was better than everyone else. She should have nipped it in the bud when he was younger. Oh well,  let's place the blame where it belongs,  THE WRITERS!!!!!!! 😉

[Mario D.]

3 hours ago, chucky said:

I remember those episodes as well. I guess you could say Leonard contributed to Sheldon's actions. Penny as well. They didn't call him out or force him to do things himself. I think that Mary was the main contributor to Sheldon thinking he was better than everyone else. She should have nipped it in the bud when he was younger. Oh well,  let's place the blame where it belongs,  THE WRITERS!!!!!!! 😉

Yes it is true everyone contributed to Sheldon's behavior because he doesn't mean it. That is just lame and I really think he knew exactly what he was doing. And yes his mother coddled him too much to the point that he expected that attitude from everyone he came in contact with. I caught a couple of Young Sheldon episodes and he was as obnoxious and condescending to his family as a ten year old as he was in adult life.

[chucky]

1 hour ago, Mario D. said:

Yes it is true everyone contributed to Sheldon's behavior because he doesn't mean it. That is just lame and I really think he knew exactly what he was doing. And yes his mother coddled him too much to the point that he expected that attitude from everyone he came in contact with. I caught a couple of Young Sheldon episodes and he was as obnoxious and condescending to his family as a ten year old as he was in adult life.

Agreed, except I haven't seen any of  Young Sheldon. Don't plan on watching any either. 

[NeckShotLime]

2 hours ago, Mario D. said:

Yes it is true everyone contributed to Sheldon's behavior because he doesn't mean it. That is just lame and I really think he knew exactly what he was doing. And yes his mother coddled him too much to the point that he expected that attitude from everyone he came in contact with. I caught a couple of Young Sheldon episodes and he was as obnoxious and condescending to his family as a ten year old as he was in adult life.

And yet it seems to me that on YS they're less willing to let him get away with his BS ( except maybe his mom) than his friends on TBBT. I've only watched seasons1-3 of YS so maybe that changes in the later seasons, i dunno. Also i find him more empathic as a child. 

Edited August 17, 2022 by NeckShotLime

[chucky]

12 hours ago, NeckShotLime said:

And yet it seems to me that on YS they're less willing to let him get away with his BS ( except maybe his mom) than his friends on TBBT. I've only watched seasons1-3 of YS so maybe that changes in the later seasons, i dunno. Also i find him more empathic as a child. 

I think that his family is less likely to let him get away with it.  Plus, George Sr. Is still alive and he's probably the reason for the family's reaction to his behavior. But, that is my opinion. Take it with a grain of salt as I don't watch the show. 

[Mario D.]

14 hours ago, NeckShotLime said:

And yet it seems to me that on YS they're less willing to let him get away with his BS ( except maybe his mom) than his friends on TBBT. I've only watched seasons1-3 of YS so maybe that changes in the later seasons, i dunno. Also i find him more empathic as a child. 

Like I said I have only watched a couple of episodes and the ones I watched he was being rude and obnoxious to his mother because she was disciplining him and he didn't get his way

[chucky]

2 hours ago, Mario D. said:

Like I said I have only watched a couple of episodes and the ones I watched he was being rude and obnoxious to his mother because she was disciplining him and he didn't get his way

And he never learned anything about behavior from his childhood snits.