episodes 921 'The Viewing Party Combustion' (April 21)

[camelliayao]

30 minutes ago, Serena_nyc1995 said:

Then why can't Amy just be honest and tell Sheldon or Penny that she wants Penny to move out ? 

I think Amy is somehow a little afraid to confront Penny. She used to idolize Penny, remember? (And I think she still does) So she usually goes to Leonard for things like this, just like in season 7.

As for Sheldon, well it's the show's grand tradition to never let Shamy have a heart-to-heart conversation. Besides she suggested  moving in with Sheldon twice before, and got turned down both times. If she has the same conversation with Sheldon now, she'll be "pushy" again. I think she's just respecting Sheldon's choice.

Besides it's Sheldon and Leonard's apartment after all. It'll be a little out of line for Amy to bring out the subject of Lenny moving out. Amy spoke up her mind and expressed her feelings without meddling too much. I think what she did in this episode is appropriate.

Edited April 22, 2016 by camelliayao

[serena_1995]

1 hour ago, camelliayao said:

I think Amy is somehow a little afraid to confront Penny. She used to idolize Penny, remember? (And I think she still does) So she usually goes to Leonard for things like this, just like in season 7.

As for Sheldon, well it's the show's grand tradition to never let Shamy have a heart-to-heart conversation. Besides she suggested  moving in with Sheldon twice before, and got turned down both times. If she has the same conversation with Sheldon now, she'll be "pushy" again. I think she's just respecting Sheldon's choice.

Thats really stupid of Amy to idolize Penny. Amy is hard working, mature, beautiful, intelligent and a successful scientist and PHD and a nice person. In the beginning it was fine but not now.

If anything, it should be Penny who should want to be more like Amy by now. 

I don't think Amy wants to move in. And  when it comes to Sheldon, he is a straight forward guy and its best to be blunt and honest with him to get your point across. So I don't know why Amy uses passive aggressiveness or metaphors so much around a guy who doesn't get it ? And then she gets mad. 

Edited April 22, 2016 by Serena_nyc1995

[Carlos]

OMG, I've just watched the stupidest, most uninteresting, most unfunny, mean, pointless episode. The trilogy of horrendous episodes is complete: Speckerman, Itchy Brain, Viewing party combustion. I must say that Penny was specially pathetic this episode. I know this is not reality but fighting over the RA when she and her husband could be having a private viewing party in their apartment? This is beyond ridiculous and moronic. I feel sad that TBBT has become such a piece of shit.

[camelliayao]

21 minutes ago, Serena_nyc1995 said:

Thats really stupid of Amy to idolize Penny. Amy is hard working, mature, beautiful, intelligent and a successful scientist and PHD and a nice person. In the beginning it was fine but not now.

If anything, it should be Penny who should want to be more like Amy by now. Values of TV shows and the society are so messed up, when it comes to women.

I don't think Amy wants to move in. And  when it comes to Sheldon, he is a straight forward guy and its best to be blunt and honest with him to get your point across. So I don't know why Amy uses passive aggressiveness or metaphors so much around a guy who doesn't get it ? And then she gets mad. 

Haha well I think the reason Amy idolizes Penny  is that Penny has everything Amy secretly wanted but couldn't have. Penny is beautiful, social, and outgoing. I think Penny and Amy are both great, just in different ways. Personally I like Penny and Amy's earlier interactions. I love the episode where Amy gave Penny a painting of them two. And I love the scene where Penny put the tiara on Amy and smiled like a proud sister. It was so cute and heartwarming. Too bad these days the writers find it "funnier" to just let them be sarcastic at each other or fight.

As for Shamy's communication problem, you're absolutely right. But what can I say, the writers just won't let them talk. It's like Shamy sex jokes. I hate them but the writers use them in every episode. And there's nothing I can do.

Edited April 22, 2016 by camelliayao

[djsurrey]

I had never heard of Man-Bat and I'm not a fan of GOTs so I had no appreciation of the references.

 

[serena_1995]

2 hours ago, stardustmelody said:

I agree that bullying Stuart is very mean spirited and honestly don't understand why they do that.   It seems to me they would have a lot of compassion for him because he is always so down on his luck with finances and women both.   They all know how it felt to be socially awkward and left out, so that is why I would like to see them realize that they used to be that way as well and show him some compassion.

They were neglecting Stuart  at  Sheldon's birthday party too. Not Cool. I'm all for unlikable characters but with Stuart its horrible because he is usually nice to them.

Stuart never succeeded in dating Penny because she had feelings for Leonard.

And Sheldon swooped in and practically stole Amy from him WHILE Stuart and Amy were on a date. Ouch. I mean,  how can one person have so much bad luck ?  Poor guy can't catch a break. LOL.

Edited April 22, 2016 by Serena_nyc1995

[luminous]

Meh episode for me. Not really much to laugh about.   It could be a build-up episode, when it leads to something, e.g. a change of the living arrangements. Otherwise a pretty mediocre if not lame filler episode IMO, when nothing results from this.

[mirs1]

Hopefully this episode is the built up for a change in the living arrangements, I can see it as a way of shaking things up a bit before facing the problem directly. But, as it is, it was a meh-episode to me. Raj part was just unpleasant to watch (but I already expected that) and I also found the guys bullying Stuart a little mean. I'm not very convinced about the premises, Penny defending the RA meetings just to avoid to fight before a GoT episode seems too weak. Howard speaking about his baby and whether he wanted a boy or a girl was sweet, maybe the only "sweet" moment in the episode.  I found interesting the part about Amy standing up for herself when she explained that she was annoyed by Sheldon and Penny being close and the whole discussion in the hall gave to Leonard too the chance to express his concerns. The comparison  between L/P/S and H/B/R situations  was also funny, it puts everything into the prospective of a wife having a soft spot for her husband's weird best friend. Highlights of the episode for me: Amy faking her love for bureaucracy and Penny's face when she was doing so (since I watched the sneak peeks I was sure that would have been the best part of the show) and Leonard's and Howard's "son of a bi**h!"

[Jonny]

Seen most of the clips, man I felt sorry for Stuart more than anything. The guy's creepiness and weirdness does sometimes makes it easy for the group to ridicule him but it was more like bullying this episode. The thing is though for all his quirks he has does produce some good wisdom at times, for example in the hospital.

You would think we are going to see some changes to the living situation but there have been rows before and nothing changed. I actually have a bit of trepidation about how they are going to resolve it as I want to see a conflict free resolution that benefits everyone involved.

Amy is just Amy she just tells it how she sees it. She clearly wants to be more involved in Sheldon's life but she wasn't angry in that episode, though understandably there is a bit of jealousy.

Howard and Raj might be building up to a big fight, we have seen in the last few episodes Howard is getting more and more fed up with Raj's lovelife and hearing about it. I've always liked Howard but these past few weeks have reinforced that with some good lines and more maturity with his character.

Overall it wasn't that great an episode, felt like a buildup episode to something big i.e. living arrangement changes perhaps.

[Lionne]

That was horrible. It felt contrived building that fight out of nowhere, but then they dropped it mid episode and went nowhere with it. 

Considering that the last episodes of the season are brimming with guest stars, I sincerely doubt anything will happen with the living arrangements. So this episode was just pointless. Utterly pointless. Everything about it fell flat, with Raj bragging about dating two women being the worst part. He's two-timing, one of the girls being his 2-year girlfriend whom for God knows what reason, apparently loves him and desperately wants to stay together. 

Just a terrible, terrible episode. 

[djsurrey]

24 minutes ago, Lionne said:

Everything about it fell flat, with Raj bragging about dating two women being the worst part. He's two-timing, one of the girls being his 2-year girlfriend whom for God knows what reason, apparently loves him and desperately wants to stay together. 

Just a terrible, terrible episode. 

I agree that the worst part was two timing Raj bragging about what he is doing. Next worst part was Leonard's reaction was that he was intrigued rather than disgusted. I'm just glad no one else at home was watching.

I'm just hoping we are in for a treat with upcoming episodes and guest stars. It is better to have a stinker now rather than in the final.

[Lionne]

Leonard came off pretty awful this episode in general. He's surprised and impressed Raj is dating two girls at once, just decides to throw a tantrum over the RA meeting for no reason and if he is that sick of it all stop whining about it and MOVE OUT then, and then he taunts his friend Stuart over his "girly bike." Really not a great Leonard episode whatsoever. 

Some of the random worst parts - Why does Amy eat a sub sandwich with a fork? And in what universe do these guys look at a friend in cosplay like some kind of freak? Even Sheldon looked at Stuart as if dressing up for GoT was nerdy, awkward and bizarre, and that takes a hell of a lot of nerve for these 4 guys. Are they too cool for such things now? Who are these characters? 

[Stephen Hawking]

7 hours ago, notchinc said:

I liked that Raj wanted Amy's spinach dip.

Is Amy's spinach dip a euphemism?  

7 hours ago, Lady in Red said:

She is dancing around the elephant in the room,  but it is a bit difficult. 

So you think it is time they dealt with the tweepadock in the room?

[mirs1]

9 minutes ago, Lionne said:

Leonard came off pretty awful this episode in general. He's surprised and impressed Raj is dating two girls at once, just decides to throw a tantrum over the RA meeting for no reason and if he is that sick of it all stop whining about it and MOVE OUT then, and then he taunts his friend Stuart over his "girly bike." Really not a great Leonard episode whatsoever. 

Some of the random worst parts - Why does Amy eat a sub sandwich with a fork? And in what universe do these guys look at a friend in cosplay like some kind of freak? Even Sheldon looked at Stuart as if dressing up for GoT was nerdy, awkward and bizarre, and that takes a hell of a lot of nerve for these 4 guys. Are they too cool for such things now? Who are these characters? 

The premise of the fight was very weak and there was no mention about the big elephant in the room aka the living arrangements. The problem is not the RA meeting, the problem is that no one finds it strange to be compelled in such a situation. Not even when Amy, Leonard and Howard were alone in 4A to any of them came to mind to referring to the living arrangements as they are, it seems a forbidden subject of conversation. And, right on the point in the hall things were kind of moving in the right direction, Howard ate mortadella. BTW, as an Italian, I'm very disappointed Leonard didn't know mortadella has pistachios, what did he think the green stuff on it are? 

As for Stuart, I guess the reasons for the guys reaction to his costume is that being in costume when everybody is it's very cool, being the only one in costume in a no dress-up party makes you...a looser. It was the beginning of the guys being mean to Stuart, which was the other part that bothered me. It was bullying, no other term fits with their behavior.

[Stephen Hawking]

5 hours ago, Serena_nyc1995 said:

And Sheldon swooped in and practically stole Amy from him WHILE Stuart and Amy were on a date.

He did that with Dave Gibbs too, but I don't think any of us have a problem with that.

[April]

I do like that the episode brought up a few issues that needed to be addressed and it feels like a building block for the upcoming changes (that'll hopefully happen sooner rather than later).

Anyway, I do agree a lot of parts fell flat as well. Tricking Stuart into believing this was a dress-up party is one thing and rather harmless. But the heckling from the window at the end was really ???????? Also, ugh Raj. And everybody should be more annoyed by that, not just Howard.

@mirs1: lol yes, how does Leonard not know what the green parts in mortadella are????

[SRAM]

7 hours ago, A.D.A. said:

And the end scene with Stuart on the bicycle could have been funny if those were just friends messing around; but Stuart has always just kind of been a hanger-on to their group who can't really be expected to be invited to everything and we know he has zero social grounding otherwise, too, so it just felt like kicking the dog that's already limping.

Stuart reminds me of how the guys were in the first season of the show, when Penny wasn't around.  Also remember he dated Penny twice, but while all the guys found a perfect companion, Raj with two right now, Stuart has no one still.  Also all the complaining the guys did about other guys getting the girls, well now they are the other guys and Stuart is the only one alone.  I also think what Howard did, making him dress up, is just like what a bully would do to a nerd.

i would like to see Lucy come back as Stuart's girlfriend, especially after Raj loses his harem, just to rub it in Raj's face.

You know what could have been funny in this episode, if in the hall scene Penny was standing in the middle of the hallway, watching everything unfold and went "what the hell."  She finally realizing she was going to their apartment with her wacky neighbor, while leaving her husband in Sheldons apartment.  She could have then yelled "Stop", pointed to Sheldons apartment telling him to go back, and then grabbed Leonards hand and pulled him into their apartment.  That would have made some sense.

[Jonny]

15 minutes ago, SRAM said:

i would like to see Lucy come back as Stuart's girlfriend, especially after Raj loses his harem, just to rub it in Raj's face.

Raj's harem lol, he's annoying with just the two imagine if he ended up with more.

It pains me to say it but I am actually beginning to hate Raj and I never thought I would say that about any characters on the show.

Stuart is a pretty decent guy, a bit weird but his heart is in the right place. Hated the bike scene as well, can't stand bullying at all so I was always going to dislike it. Like someone else said the sort of bullying that they inflicted on Stuart would have likely happened to them years ago before they started to have a more normal social life. You would think they would know better.

Edited April 22, 2016 by Jonny83

[veejay]

24 minutes ago, SRAM said:

Stuart reminds me of how the guys were in the first season of the show, when Penny wasn't around.  Also remember he dated Penny twice, but while all the guys found a perfect companion, Raj with two right now, Stuart has no one still.  Also all the complaining the guys did about other guys getting the girls, well now they are the other guys and Stuart is the only one alone.  I also think what Howard did, making him dress up, is just like what a bully would do to a nerd.

i would like to see Lucy come back as Stuart's girlfriend, especially after Raj loses his harem, just to rub it in Raj's face.

You know what could have been funny in this episode, if in the hall scene Penny was standing in the middle of the hallway, watching everything unfold and went "what the hell."  She finally realizing she was going to their apartment with her wacky neighbor, while leaving her husband in Sheldons apartment.  She could have then yelled "Stop", pointed to Sheldons apartment telling him to go back, and then grabbed Leonards hand and pulled him into their apartment.  That would have made some sense.

Psst! That’s from S10/Ep1, right?

[Denise07]

The Batman/Manbat scene started off funny and then should have stopped it went on far too long.  Then Leonard thinking it was cool or admiring that Raj was dating 2 women...what da F, Leonard? 

Hoping that epi would pick up, I watched.  And as with most of the rest of the season just "Meh."

I have to agree with all the others that said it felt forced/contrived.  It may in fact be a build up epi.  If that was TPTBs goal, it fell flat to me.

Finally, I like Stuart and I hate the way they treat him sometimes.  The bike scene was terrible all around.  I mean, he rode the bike there in his costume and managed just fine.  Of course, while the guys watch from the window, it gets caught.  Go for the cheap laugh, I suppose.  I did not laugh.

[camelliayao]

Also even if this is a build up episode for a living arrangement change, I don't like it. 

Why does everything always have to be forced? So Lenny finally move out because Amy and Leonard complain about Sheldon and Penny? Why can't the reason be Sheldon genuinely wanting to move in with Amy or Lenny deciding themselves that as a married couple, they need to have more privacy?

Ugh, just ugh.

[stardustmelody]

3 minutes ago, camelliayao said:

Also even if this is a build up episode for a living arrangement change, I don't like it. 

Why does everything always have to be forced? So Lenny finally move out because Amy and Leonard complain about Sheldon and Penny? Why can't the reason be Sheldon genuinely wanting to move in with Amy or Lenny deciding themselves that as a married couple, they need to have more privacy?

Ugh, just ugh.

I totally agree....although I do think this had to be put out there...I think Penny may not realize how much she is using Sheldon as a crutch to avoid dealing with her own issues.   But I agree...it would be nice if the writers would actually make it seem far more organic and for the right reasons instead of something like this.

[paulusar]

This show has been very disappointing this season since the cast got their big fat raises. It seems to have jumped the shark. Maybe the writers should have got raises too.

[SRAM]

3 hours ago, camelliayao said:

Also even if this is a build up episode for a living arrangement change, I don't like it. 

Why does everything always have to be forced? So Lenny finally move out because Amy and Leonard complain about Sheldon and Penny? Why can't the reason be Sheldon genuinely wanting to move in with Amy or Lenny deciding themselves that as a married couple, they need to have more privacy?

Ugh, just ugh.

Well to be honest hasn't Sheldon had to be forced into every major change in his life, kicking and screaming the whole way.

 I would like to see Leonard being a little down about the living arrangements and Sheldon showing some empathy for the person who has been a brother to him.  Then as a catalyst, Sheldon finding out that Amy's apartment lease is up for renewal, so knowing she probably would still like to move in, he does something nice for both of them because he cares for both of them.  

Amy living in Leonard's room isn't going to change too much in the sex department in that she is still separate from him. Also Penny and her will be bouncing between both apartments because they are friends and when they are doing something the guys will naturally gravitate to each other.  So you still have the 4th floor as one big apartment, we are just adding Amy to the people sleeping there.

Originally I did expect Penny to move in with the guys, but I have been disappointed they missed the opportunity to have some real funny Shenny brother/sister conflict like in the first seasons.  It seems the only conflict we got was between Leonard and Penny, which was forced like last night, so I now feel they should separate, separate fast and soon.

[luminous]

10 minutes ago, SRAM said:

It seems the only conflict we got was between Leonard and Penny, which was forced like last night, so I now feel they should separate, separate fast and soon.

Just for reasons of clarification. You mean Lenny should seperate from Sheldon, right?