[Spoilers] Season 9-10 Hiatus Thread

[JE7]

This thread inspired me to get a book and study 

Edited June 18, 2016 by JE7

[Nogravitasatall]

17 hours ago, Stephen Hawking said:

I don't think you can really wing the end of a show.

Oh yes they can. See Castle s8. They shot both leads in the final 120 seconds - out of the blue. Then, the show got cancelled, so they tacked a 22 second epilogue. No long denouement at all. After 8 years. Thank goodness I only picked it up in 2014. But I have been watching TBBT avidly from inception and for me it has already kind of petered out. Howard is going to be a dad, Sheldon is now a pants man, as is Raj. The only next big deal is the accomodation change where Leonard and Penny strike out on their own. That's all they've got left in the tank. One season till wrap is my humble guess.

(Or they just put the premise on a rack to torturously stretch it for another season)

[3ku11]

I agree they could easily wrap the show up in one episode. They could wrap up both leads. Then it could just be cancelled just like that. I agree the show has petered out. They are kinda jumping the shark with the Howardette Pregnancy, Sheldon is a pants man LOL Nice one Nograv. Raj is well forever be alone. The only thing left they have in the tank is Lenny moving out, but also Penny getting pregnant. I guess Shamy marrage, but I am not so sure that is gonna happen. I have a feeling they are going to make Shamy a gray area by shows end. IMO Season TEn well prob be last. 

 

ETA:  I stand by my analogy, and I Beleive I am right. Their are three sides to a triangle, and both Sheldon and Penny are vying for the role of hypontenuse. I stand by my analogy, and alot of people see it this way too. Fine don't agree with me, but I am entitled to that opinion. And don't really like my opinons being picked apart. 

Edited June 19, 2016 by Tensor
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[Jonny]

Hypothetically if Season 10 is the last I think some of the major storylines will be tied off something like:

-Lenny move across the hall, Penny finds a new career and the guidance system makes Leonard wealthy.

-Shamy get engaged and have a wedding probably towards the end of the season maybe the final episode. They move in together and begin their life as a married couple.

-Howard and Bernadette have their baby, the guidance system provides a good deal of money to take the pressure off them raising a child.

-Raj, who knows with Raj that's the one I can't put a finger on in terms of a Season 10 conclusion. Maybe he does something like in 'big love' having both women live with him and dedicating time to them on different days. Maybe he ends up alone, or he flees to India to have an arranged marriage.

 

I then think the chances of a flash forward episode or scenes set a few years later to find out what happened must be pretty good if it turns out this is the last season.

Edited June 19, 2016 by Jonny83

[Swedish Chef]

5 hours ago, Jonny83 said:

Hypothetically if Season 10 is the last I think some of the major storylines will be tied off something like:

-Lenny move across the hall, Penny finds a new career and the guidance system makes Leonard wealthy.

-Shamy get engaged and have a wedding probably towards the end of the season maybe the final episode. They move in together and begin their life as a married couple.

-Howard and Bernadette have their baby, the guidance system provides a good deal of money to take the pressure off them raising a child.

-Raj, who knows with Raj that's the one I can't put a finger on in terms of a Season 10 conclusion. Maybe he does something like in 'big love' having them both live with him and dedicating time to them on different days. Maybe he ends up alone, or he flees to India to have an arranged marriage.

 

I then think the chances of a flash forward episode or scenes set a few years later to find out what happened must be pretty good if it turns out this is the last season.

I don´t think that Lenny will move to 4B anytime soon, just a feeling I have.

Didn´t people say that 4B was taken down in the season finale.

[Stephen Hawking]

11 minutes ago, Lagernisse said:

Didn't people say that 4B was taken down in the season finale.

So, maybe they move somewhere completely different.

[Swedish Chef]

8 minutes ago, Stephen Hawking said:

So, maybe they move somewhere completely different.

And break up the troika of P/L/S ?

I don´t think so, but that my opinion, I could be wrong.

[Kathy2611]

1 hour ago, Lagernisse said:

I don´t think that Lenny will move to 4B anytime soon, just a feeling I have.

Didn´t people say that 4B was taken down in the season finale.

Yes but only because they didn't need it for the finale and they actually take down the guys apartment also during the summer hiatus.  

[Jonny]

I don't see Lenny moving out of the building entirely, not if the writers are already scared about them moving into 4B. The only way I think we see them in their own house is if a) we get several more seasons and perhaps are expecting a child or b- It's a flash forward into the future to see what happened to them at the end of the series.

[Stephen Hawking]

In that case (and I don't want it to b this), maybe Sheldon moves in with Amy, leaving Leonard and Penny in 4A.

[Jonny]

3 minutes ago, Stephen Hawking said:

In that case (and I don't want it to b this), maybe Sheldon moves in with Amy, leaving Leonard and Penny in 4A.

You think Sheldon would move into Amy's place? It would be some twist for sure but I don't see it. Living with Amy would be a huge step for him, living with Amy in somewhere else other than 4A I'm not sure he could cope with it.

[Kathy2611]

28 minutes ago, Stephen Hawking said:

In that case (and I don't want it to b this), maybe Sheldon moves in with Amy, leaving Leonard and Penny in 4A.

That won't happen only because 4a and 4b (along with the hall way) are one big set.  And they "need" (or so they think) to keep the big 3 together in some way.  When they grow some balls and stop being pussies, they'll move Lenny into 4b and Amy into 4a with Sheldon.

[Swedish Chef]

4 minutes ago, Kathy2611 said:

That won't happen only because 4a and 4b (along with the hall way) are one big set.  And they "need" (or so they think) to keep the big 3 together in some way.  When they grow some balls and stop being pussies, they'll move Lenny into 4b and Amy into 4a with Sheldon.

I couldn´t have said it better myself. 

[Tonstar17]

I love all this speculations about Amy moving into 4a with Sheldon. It's not going to happen and if it does it would probably be the end of the series. Amy is not a main character and the show has always been about the main 3 from day one. Like it or not, thats just the way it is. I can't see that changing. And also moving amy into 4a will give her more screen time so they will have to make her a main character which will mean a massive pay rise. Thats why i can see it happening anytime soon.

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[mirs1]

32 minutes ago, Tonstar17 said:

I love all this speculations about Amy moving into 4a with Sheldon. It's not going to happen and if it does it would probably be the end of the series. Amy is not a main character and the show has always been about the main 3 from day one. Like it or not, thats just the way it is. I can't see that changing. And also moving amy into 4a will give her more screen time so they will have to make her a main character which will mean a massive pay rise. Thats why i can see it happening anytime soon.

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I don't think Amy will move in anytime soon, but I don't think  that money could be an obstacle for that either. Mayim's salary for S. 10 has already been established and will not change accordingly to her screen time, otherwise she would have been paid much more than Melissa, and of Kunal, on that matter, for S. 9. So, if S. 10 is the last, there's nothing, money-wise, against Amy living in the main set. If they are going to have more seasons, Mayim is going to ask for a huge pay rise regardless where she lives, there would be no Shamy without Amy...

Edited June 19, 2016 by mirs1

[Tonstar17]

I don't think Amy will move id anytime soon, but I don't think either that money could be an obstacle for that. Mayim's salary for S. 10 has already been established and will not change accordingly to her screen time (otherwise she would have paid much more than Melissa, and of Kunal, on that matter, for S. 9. So, if S. 10 is the last, there's nothing, money-wise, against Amy living in the main set. If they are going to have more seasons, Mayim is going to ask for a huge pay rise anyway, there would be no Shamy without Amy...

My main point is she is not a main character and the show will always be about the main 3. Moving Amy into 4A will change that premise. Tptb will not go there because it will disrupt the purpose of the show being about Sheldon, Leonard and Penny. That i think will never change until the end. The show is not about Amy so it will always be mostly Sheldon point of view when it comes to Shamy and tptb will not change that anytime soon.

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[April]

Screen time is really not an issue. There are plenty of episodes where Amy is in every scene together with Sheldon giving both actors de facto the same amount of screen time. And then there are episodes where she's off doing something else in some minor B-plot or whatever. Her living in 4A would not change any of that. She doesn't have to be in every 4A scene, or she can just be in a short 4A scene thus fulfilling the requirement of being in the episode and then not have much to do for the rest of it. So basically: business as usual.

AFAIK the screen time has nothing to do with the salaries, or vice versa.

[legacy99]

I don't think amy will move into 4a because the writers would really have to change sheldon more than they would want to make that work

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[Tonstar17]

Screen time is really not an issue. There are plenty of episodes where Amy is in every scene together with Sheldon giving both actors de facto the same amount of screen time. And then there are episodes where she's off doing something else in some minor B-plot or whatever. Her living in 4A would not change any of that. She doesn't have to be in every 4A scene, or she can just be in a short 4A scene thus fulfilling the requirement of being in the episode and then not have much to do for the rest of it. So basically: business as usual.

AFAIK the screen time has nothing to do with the salaries, or vice versa.

But it will. Its the main set and it has always been about the main 3 so yes Amy living there will change things even if like you say she has manor roles while living there.

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[April]

3 minutes ago, Tonstar17 said:

But it will. Its the main set and it has always been about the main 3 so yes Amy living there will change things even if like you say she has manor roles while living there.

It's always a question of what stories they write. They can easily have the usual mix of stories with a major part for Amy and stories with a minor part for her. And I don't see her living in 4A having such a huge impact at all. Lenny and Sheldon are not hanging out at 4A all the time either. Sometimes it's Sheldon alone with some other character, sometimes it's Lenny alone, sometimes it's even Leonard or Penny with some of the other characters.

Amy living there is not the issue - it's only down to what the writers would do with that and IMHO they could have her move in without turning it into "The Amy Show" (not that I would mind lol). There are still enough stories to tell with Lenny/Sheldon as the core 3. And so what if Amy sometimes joins in on whatever shenanigans they get caught up in? Guess what, she already does that even without living in 4A!

The writers really just need to get their shit together and stop being so scared of "changing the show's DNA" cause in the end of the day it doesn't make any more of a difference than all the other developments they've been pushing for years now. It's alright, really.

[djsurrey]

38 minutes ago, April said:

The writers really just need to get their shit together and stop being so scared of "changing the show's DNA" cause in the end of the day it doesn't make any more of a difference than all the other developments they've been pushing for years now. It's alright, really.

Given where the ratings are compared to other shows I think they have it together even if the current arrangement is unrealistic. These writers seem to know what they can sell and keep their audience. The things that have not changed are probably viewed as the brand (like the building with the broken elevator - Leonard and Sheldon like Laurel and Hardy, Felix and Oscar or C3PO and R2D2).

  

Edited June 19, 2016 by djsurrey

[April]

2 minutes ago, djsurrey said:

Given where the ratings are compared to other shows I think they have it together even if the current arrangement is unrealistic. These writers seem to know what they can sell and keep their audience.

I think they can sell even more and people will still watch the show. I don't think at this point the audience will freak out if -GASP!- Leonard decides for the 3rd time or so to move in with his now wife across the hall. I mean, seriously. People can deal with a lot of changes in fiction and I'm confident the writers can make something like that believable. lol

[Tensor]

2 minutes ago, April said:

I'm confident the writers can make something like that believable. lol

They problem is the writers don't seem to have the confidence that they can make it believable.  

[Tonstar17]

It's always a question of what stories they write. They can easily have the usual mix of stories with a major part for Amy and stories with a minor part for her. And I don't see her living in 4A having such a huge impact at all. Lenny and Sheldon are not hanging out at 4A all the time either. Sometimes it's Sheldon alone with some other character, sometimes it's Lenny alone, sometimes it's even Leonard or Penny with some of the other characters.

Amy living there is not the issue - it's only down to what the writers would do with that and IMHO they could have her move in without turning it into "The Amy Show" (not that I would mind lol). There are still enough stories to tell with Lenny/Sheldon as the core 3. And so what if Amy sometimes joins in on whatever shenanigans they get caught up in? Guess what, she already does that even without living in 4A!

The writers really just need to get their shit together and stop being so scared of "changing the show's DNA" cause in the end of the day it doesn't make any more of a difference than all the other developments they've been pushing for years now. It's alright, really.

Totally agree and it would be comic gold for the 4 to live together, but i would love to see lenny move to 4b hell i will be happy if they move out the building but i know it is not going to happen. Tptb are scared of changes and never has any other character/guest characters lived in 4a for more than 3 episodes, i just can't see them moving Amy in at the moment as like you said they are scared of changing the dna of the show. It always has been S/L/P from the beginning and sadly with tptb pattern it looks like the separation isn't going to happen until the end. I really hope i'm wrong because it pisses me off to no end but sometimes no matter how much we speculate or want to see happen, it's the writers that write to stories and they seem to be following a pattern that they are not willing to changed just yet.

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[April]

1 minute ago, Tensor said:

They problem is the writers don't seem to have the confidence that they can make it believable.  

I know! And it's so bizarre to me. Like, there's literally no reason for it. They are able to write great character development (YMMV, I know I know) and they've dealt with a lot more complicated issues than Lenny moving into 4B. If you look at S9 there are very few episodes that would be affected if Lenny moved out at some point after, say, 9x12 as a result of the therapy session, for example. The only story that relied on the living arrangements was 9x21 and that was pretty damn terrible all things considered. ugh

I mean, I could understand them better if we'd had a string of amazingly funny episodes that relied on Lenny and Sheldon living in 4A but I don't see that happening either - so I'm more than ready for them to move on and exploit the new living arrangements for funny situations.