[Spoilers] Season 9-10 Hiatus Thread

[JE7]

Sigh, remember when the surprises were pleasant ones......

[serena_1995]

On 6/17/2016 at 3:13 PM, Stephen Hawking said:

Would we honestly still be watching, if everyone else had a SO, and Sheldon was still on his own?

Without Amy, I think he'd just be a sad, lonely man, and that wouldn't be funny at all.

Yeah I think I would still watch if Sheldon had no SO, just as I watched season 1-4, which imo were the best years of the show-And you do realize that many people are asexual ? or single by choice ? Or just date occasionally but never be serious? That doesn't seem to occur to the writers. LOL !  Not everyone wants the same things out of life or be the perfect bf/gf. As long as it is funny, who cares !

Edited June 23, 2016 by serena_nyc1995

[3ku11]

Well sorry the but whole premise of the show was the guys becoming socially aware. The expereiment of a hot girl on four eggheads. So that meant one day the guys including Sheldon would get a gf. I agree Sheldon was more funnier when he was observing. But it was unrealistic to expect that to last. Sheldon was going to get a gf, it was a inevitablity. Alot hate Amy, and hate Shamy. But alot obviousley love Shamy. No one opinion is exclusive. I think with the show these days most of the core fans that watched since 2007. Have either tuned out or are watching other stuff. The casuals are what they seem to try to be targeting. I mean that is obvious with all the Sheldon Centric stories the past 3 seasons. I agree the show was at its best 1-4. The dialouge was witty, and clever, and really unique. i mean you go from Leonard and Leslie breaking up over String Theory lol. To well a conventional show that it is now. 

[serena_1995]

LOL ! How is Sheldon(or anyone) getting a gf 'inevitable' ? That is like saying being straight is inevitable . Sheldon could have been gay or  asexual or dedicated to science all his life.Like I said, why ignore  that there are other kinds of people in the world ?Not everyone wants the same things in life, irrespective of their level of 'social awareness' . Like I'm not against Shamy by any means, but later seasons sucked out a lot of fun and quirk, and it is just something I observed people say as 'inevitable' when it is anything but.

Edited June 23, 2016 by serena_nyc1995

[djsurrey]

27 minutes ago, serena_nyc1995 said:

LOL ! How is Sheldon(or anyone) getting a gf 'inevitable' ? That is like saying being straight is inevitable . Sheldon could have been gay or  asexual or dedicated to science all his life.He could have been all that while being more socially aware.  Like I said, seems to me that it never occurs to the writers that there are other kinds of people too. 

I don't see evidence that those things did not occur to them. I think after 3 seasons they looked around for a way to keep their jobs for a few more years.

Mayim Bialik was gold and sparked new interest in the series (that's my theory). There were cry's of foul and so on but TBBT became more main stream and the writers kept earning their daily bread.

 

Edited June 23, 2016 by djsurrey

[vonmar]

29 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

Well sorry the but whole premise of the show was the guys becoming socially aware. The expereiment of a hot girl on four eggheads. So that meant one day the guys including Sheldon would get a gf. I agree Sheldon was more funnier when he was observing. But it was unrealistic to expect that to last. Sheldon was going to get a gf, it was a inevitablity. Alot hate Amy, and hate Shamy. But alot obviousley love Shamy. No one opinion is exclusive. I think with the show these days most of the core fans that watched since 2007. Have either tuned out or are watching other stuff. The casuals are what they seem to try to be targeting. I mean that is obvious with all the Sheldon Centric stories the past 3 seasons. I agree the show was at its best 1-4. The dialouge was witty, and clever, and really unique. i mean you go from Leonard and Leslie breaking up over String Theory lol. To well a conventional show that it is now. 

For a show nine years in, a show couldn't be stronger.  Tensor can correct me but I believe that a the end of the season 9  (using the Live +7 numbers) it was the #1 scripted show on TV beating out NCIS this year.  People still love this show, people love the Shamy stories and I am sorry that it bothers you. 15 million casuals are watching each week?  How many core fans did they lose?  Who are the 6-8 million watching reruns through out the summer? Casuals, Cores or Newbies to the show?

[3ku11]

1 hour ago, vonmar said:

For a show nine years in, a show couldn't be stronger.  Tensor can correct me but I believe that a the end of the season 9  (using the Live +7 numbers) it was the #1 scripted show on TV beating out NCIS this year.  People still love this show, people love the Shamy stories and I am sorry that it bothers you. 15 million casuals are watching each week?  How many core fans did they lose?  Who are the 6-8 million watching reruns through out the summer? Casuals, Cores or Newbies to the show?

Ratings are subjective. So is people loving Shamy Stories. Some like the WHOLE Ensemble. I know Shocking. IT is susposed to be an Ensemble comedy after all. Not sure casuals tune in just for Shamy. I would dare say Most Casuals tune in for Sheldon and Penny. 

1 hour ago, serena_nyc1995 said:

LOL ! How is Sheldon(or anyone) getting a gf 'inevitable' ? That is like saying being straight is inevitable . Sheldon could have been gay or  asexual or dedicated to science all his life.Like I said, why ignore  that there are other kinds of people in the world ?Not everyone wants the same things in life, irrespective of their level of 'social awareness' . Like I'm not against Shamy by any means, but later seasons sucked out a lot of fun and quirk, and it is just something I observed people say as 'inevitable' when it is anything but.

I say it is inevtiable. Because unless they thought Sheldon being alone was funny. Sheldon was goign to get a gf. I mean post Season 3 thigns were flagging. MAyim I agree was gold for them. And added interest back in the show. I mean they diddn't know how long Amy was going to last. Then Shamy became widly popular. Being Straight is inevitable? Sorry don't get your pov. As Sheldon is straight or Demisexual, that is a mute point. 

Edited June 23, 2016 by 3ku11

[legacy99]

Jmho but i don't think 15 million viewers tune in just to see shamy there are other characters on the show but i guess we're all entitled to are own opinions

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[joyceraye]

1 hour ago, serena_nyc1995 said:

LOL ! How is Sheldon(or anyone) getting a gf 'inevitable' ? That is like saying being straight is inevitable . Sheldon could have been gay or  asexual or dedicated to science all his life.Like I said, why ignore  that there are other kinds of people in the world ?Not everyone wants the same things in life, irrespective of their level of 'social awareness' . Like I'm not against Shamy by any means, but later seasons sucked out a lot of fun and quirk, and it is just something I observed people say as 'inevitable' when it is anything but.

True. Comedy is in the unexpected. Of the four men, if asked in the early seasons to pick one who would become an elderly celibate academic, married to his work if to anything, most of us would have chosen Sheldon. Even Raj and Howard didn't really expect to find a match for him when they went on the website for fun.

Just as unlikely as Sheldon to fall in love or take an interest in social life was how Amy appeared at first. She didn't even want the date but went along with the idea to keep her mother off her back. She even looked like the stereotypical scientist who knew nothing about what happened outside the lab and didn't want to.

The appeal is the uninevitability of either of them finding a SO, the humour is the quaintness of what they get up to.

[vonmar]

31 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

Ratings are subjective.. 

No, ratings are based off of data.....  emotions are subjective.

[3ku11]

While the characters may not be where some want them to be. Some don't liek how everyone is alike in so many ways. Some hate Sheldon conformed to sociities conventions and rules. Ultimately the show well beciome one. Everyone character is exactly the same. Just a show about married couples. But I am sorry that is a inevtaiblity. It is a situational comedy. Comedy is all about timing. The timing of the show has always been its key to success. Isin't it great that Sheldon found love? ONly Amy would put up with this mad man lol. Theirs someone out their for everyone, even Sheldon. I Think that's a nice message. So maybe the comedy has declined as a result, but I Think over the years some good stuff has come out of it too. Maybe unexpected, but that is the whole point of The Big Bang Theory. 

My main gripe is just the current situation. The situation has changed, it is not hot girl four nerds anymore. IT is a show about young student professionals. And I feel the TPTB are holding onto the past with this Lenny Sheldon dynamic. And just like they did in Friends. Leonard and Sheldon just like Chandler and Joey. Need to let each other go, so the show can move forward, and get new stories. OR it well be forever ina moving pattern till series final. 

Edited June 23, 2016 by 3ku11

[Nogravitasatall]

6 hours ago, djsurrey said:

Surprise is a major part of TBBT's bag of tricks. It is kind of a given.

http://cdn.movieweb.com/img.news.tops/NE6gGnxajH5G98_1_b.jpg

 

I was never so surprised as when Penny looked up at the ceiling and saw she was where she needed to be, but then looked over and saw she was not with the one she needed to be with. Truly, hard to top for surprise.

But the Amy bed hair in s9 was pretty funny and that surprised me - on mental replay I can sort of see the homage to Barbarella.

[3ku11]

22 minutes ago, Nogravitasatall said:

I was never so surprised as when Penny looked up at the ceiling and saw she was where she needed to be, but then looked over and saw she was not with the one she needed to be with. Truly, hard to top for surprise.

But the Amy bed hair in s9 was pretty funny and that surprised me - on mental replay I can sort of see the homage to Barbarella.

What episode was that dont remember that. 

Edited June 23, 2016 by 3ku11

[Jonny]

For those that feel the show has changed too much or believe that the good old days were better I think you should read some of the comments from Chuck Lorre about the show's whole premise and his vision of it. The first few seasons weren't really his true vision at all, I guess that is understandable considering it was a new show and they wanted to get established. It was always going to evolve into something so much more and all-encompassing. I think the show is more true to his vision than it has ever been.

I truly believe if they had kept up with the 4 nerds and 1 girl who is being pursued by one of the nerds in an on off-relationship then we wouldn't be now talking in a Season 9 section of the forum and looking forward to a Season 10. I think there were clear signs towards the end of Season 3 that the show was starting to become stale and it needed a kick start which it got with the introduction of Amy and Bernadette.

Genuine question for those that miss the robotic solely focused on himself, his work and his small social circle Sheldon. Did you ever feel that whilst Sheldon was funny largely driven because he was unusual did you also ever feel a tinge of sadness towards him? Because I can tell you I did, probably going into Season 3. I think we saw clear signs that there was more to him than just brilliant genius scientist but that he needed those experiences to come out of his shell more or blow a chink in that armor he put around himself.

I think the reason why Sheldon is so popular is because there are a lot of people out there who can relate in a way to him, perhaps not on an intellectual level but in terms of having problems with social skills or other areas of their life. I'm not particularly good around people in real life and do suffer from depression and self confidence issues. When I see Sheldon I find myself rooting for him and I think a lot of people who have similar issues also want to see him succeed in life.

Apologies for a long winded rant.

Edited June 23, 2016 by Jonny83

[3ku11]

22 minutes ago, Jonny83 said:

For those that feel the show has changed too much or believe that the good old days were better I think you should read some of the comments from Chuck Lorre about the show's whole premise and his vision of it. The first few seasons weren't really his true vision at all, I guess that is understandable considering it was a new show and they wanted to get established. It was always going to evolve into something so much more and all-encompassing. I think the show is more true to his vision than it has ever been.

I truly believe if they had kept up with the 4 nerds and 1 girl who is being pursued by one of the nerds in an on off-relationship then we wouldn't be now talking in a Season 9 section of the forum and looking forward to a Season 10. I think there were clear signs towards the end of Season 3 that the show as starting to become stale and it needed a kick start which it got with the introduction of Amy and Bernadette.

Genuine question for those that miss the robotic solely focused on himself, his work and his small social circle Sheldon. Did you ever feel that whilst Sheldon was funny largely driven because he was unusual did you also ever feel a tinge of sadness towards him? Because I can tell you I did, probably going into Season 3. I think we saw clear signs that there was more to him than just brilliant genius scientist but that he needed those experiences to come out of his shell more or blow a chink in that armor he put around himself.

I think the reason why Sheldon is so popular is because there are a lot of people out there who can relate in a way to him, perhaps not on an intellectual level but in terms of having problems with social skills or other areas of their life. I'm not particularly good around people in real life and do suffer from depression and self confidence issues. When I see Sheldon I find myself rooting for him and I think a lot of people who have similar issues also want to see him succeed in life.

Apologies for a long winded rant.

Well the same could be said about Leonard he lacked the same confidence. I Can't find myself relating to Sheldon at all.  I think he has known to have more social skills then he let's on. I don't root for him after ten years, I am more rooting for him to f off and fail at pretty much everything lol. Personally I could always relate to LEoanrd the most. I guess being a guy I Can relate to the nerdy guy desiring the hot girl. IT is funny ppl say on and off relationship. They broke up once in s3, but I see your point. I happen to agree S3 was getting stale. First two seasons were genius. But by s3, I felt geek chic was a fad and was wearing off. Show was in need of a boost. And I beleive Amy and Bernadette expanded the show. Your right we woulden't be here in s9 talking about s10. But their is some who beleive BBT should of ended after Season 3. So the issue of a s9 forum should of never occured, regardless of Lorres true vision for the show. Well personally, I beleive Sheldon was the most unique character in tv history. And I get he had to have a gf .Because those expereinces were neccessary to move forward his character. Sheldon alwways talked about relationships being neccessary only in construct for procreation. I don't like how they have changed Sheldons personality. But that is jmo. 

Edited June 23, 2016 by 3ku11

[April]

25 minutes ago, Jonny83 said:

I truly believe if they had kept up with the 4 nerds and 1 girl who is being pursued by one of the nerds in an on off-relationship then we wouldn't be now talking in a Season 9 section of the forum and looking forward to a Season 10. I think there were clear signs towards the end of Season 3 that the show as starting to become stale and it needed a kick start which it got with the introduction of Amy and Bernadette.

Also, let's be real, the girls were not just an addition to boost Howard and Sheldon. Their job was never only being girlfriends to those guys - they were also there to expand Penny's character. As great as Penny was there was some dimension to her missing cause her social life was some vague-ish "dates a lot of guys and has friends we never got to know" bubble. Giving her a proper girl squad has opened up a lot of fun stories that we'd otherwise never gotten with the original 1 girl/4 nerds setup.

[Jonny]

8 minutes ago, April said:

Also, let's be real, the girls were not just an addition to boost Howard and Sheldon. Their job was never only being girlfriends to those guys - they were also there to expand Penny's character. As great as Penny was there was some dimension to her missing cause her social life was some vague-ish "dates a lot of guys and has friends we never got to know" bubble. Giving her a proper girl squad has opened up a lot of fun stories that we'd otherwise never gotten with the original 1 girl/4 nerds setup.

Agreed.

I mean we wouldn't have had brilliant scenes like in The Troll Manifestation which is probably in my top 5 favorite scenes of the entire show to date. The introduction of two more female characters without question gave Penny's character much more depth and strength.

[3ku11]

I agree with that. I mean Amy and Bernadette I beleive were huge influences on the character of Penny. I mean even go back to S3 Lenny break up. Look around Penny is the only female in that scene. She was isolated. With A and B around, I Do not beleive that would of happened. I mean even with Bernadette giving Penny great advice in S6, maybe you should take more interest in Leonard's work. That led to that great Holocast Excitation Hologram scene, with my all time fav Lenny moment. Without the addition of Amy and Bernadette that would of never occured imo. I agree they added depth and strength to the character of Penny. I mean she had cheerleader type friends growing up, but I Think Amy and Bernadette have become her first REAL friends. My only gripe is, the girl scenes. I did kinda prefer it when it was just Penny over their. I feel they overdo the girl scenes. Be nice to see Leonard come over to see Penny. IT feels like A and B live their some times lol. 

Edited June 23, 2016 by 3ku11

[veejay]

3 hours ago, 3ku11 said:

What episode was that dont remember that. 

My guess:

Season 2 / Ep: The Dead Hooker Juxtaposition

“Well, dead whore on TV, live one in real life.
[BED CREAKING] Oh, great.
Now she's jumping up and down on the bed.
[MOUTHS] Wow.“

?

[3ku11]

1 minute ago, veejay said:

My guess:

Season 2 / Ep: The Dead Hooker Juxtaposition

“Well, dead whore on TV, live one in real life.
[BED CREAKING] Oh, great.
Now she's jumping up and down on the bed.
[MOUTHS] Wow.“

?

oh is that when Penny mouthed Wow to Leonard haha. 

[veejay]

5 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

oh is that when Penny mouthed Wow to Leonard haha. 

Yep, LOL

[luminous]

49 minutes ago, April said:

Also, let's be real, the girls were not just an addition to boost Howard and Sheldon. Their job was never only being girlfriends to those guys - they were also there to expand Penny's character. As great as Penny was there was some dimension to her missing cause her social life was some vague-ish "dates a lot of guys and has friends we never got to know" bubble.

39 minutes ago, Jonny83 said:

The introduction of two more female characters without question gave Penny's character much more depth and strength.

Agreed

 

[3ku11]

Although too. Penny's character in terms of writing. Her character just dosen't make any sense anymore. Unrealistic almost. While A and B did expand her character. The writing of ehr character, leaves a little to be desired. 

[hokie3457]

3 hours ago, 3ku11 said:

What episode was that dont remember that. 

I think Nograv was referring to The Roommate Transmorgrification. 

[3ku11]

6 minutes ago, hokie3457 said:

I think Nograv was referring to The Roommate Transmorgrification. 

Ahhh the one where Penny woke up smiled thinking oh im in bed with Leonard yayy. Then Da Da Da DA. WTF.