JE7 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Agreed but all negative comments are not bashing. Mayim is an attractive woman but they downplay her looks precisely because Amy is intended to not be conventiinaly pretty. The way she dresses is intended too be frumpy so saying Amy is not "hot" is simply stating the facts as presented on the show it is not bashing anymore than saying Leonard is not tall is bashing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 My point was, IT is a two way street if your going to bash any of the characters. Be prepared for a rebuttel. You can't go Oh she sucks. But some one is like Amy is not hot, and you get insulted. It is not one way. You can't go Oh I usually like Lenny, but Penny is a slut, Im done! :D. Same as me going I like Shamy, but Sheldon is an asshole who treats Amy like shit, and always well. And Amy can do better. Neither are mutually exclusive. I just thought Kathy2611 whole basis for Penny being a slut was off base, and it seemed was just twisting things to suit her pre conceived notions. My logic having a sex live is not a crime, and does not maker her a slut. But their is always the slut in comedies, so the show over exagerrated it for comedy. But in reality since S4, no one can argue Penny is a slut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacy99 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 All i can say is poor Tensor out celebrating his wedding anniversary and coming home to this mess Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonmar Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I think that the issue here is with the mocking responses. You don't think Amy is hot, fine say that, but the exaggerated "hahahahahaha" schoolyard mocking is what is hurtful. We see the beauty in our ship just you see it in yours. inside and out. It makes me sad when threads descend into this type of behavior. State your opinion like an adult, be civil...your argument is stronger when you are respectful and kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensor Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 2 hours ago, legacy99 said: All i can say is poor Tensor out celebrating his wedding anniversary and coming home to this mess Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk I spent three hours, driving to the Everglades, four hours touring the Everglades, an hour drive to my hotel, check in, go eat dinner, then go to a ballgame. And I came back, at 11 PM, to this. I'm sorry if I or Tripper are not on here 24/7. Just because something isn't removed, could simply mean we haven't seen it yet. That's why we have the report button. Report it, then leave it alone. And don't, reply in kind, and don't come in to throw fuel on the fire. DO NOT CONTINUE THIS IN ANOTHER THREAD. Thread locked for now, posts hidden. Tripper and I will discuss this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripper Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 The thread has been re-opened. Another flare-up will result in a lock of at least twenty-four hours. As always, if there's a post you feel is against the rules, report it - don't answer it. Be civil and polite to people, even where you disagree on the issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veejay Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 ...after the break: Happy weekend, everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hawking Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 19 hours ago, 3ku11 said: That is not a slight, just a fact. No, it's an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luminous Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 18 hours ago, nibbler747 said: I don't think it's ok to bash any of them. That's right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie3457 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, luminous said: That's right! Next to the pixie cut, my least favorite Penny 'do. Too close to Farrah Fawcett 70's style....(my opinion only, YMMV).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 3 hours ago, Stephen Hawking said: No, it's an opinion. Lol I am not getting sucked into this again. My point was Amy is not the hot chick in the show. That's not to say no one thinks shes ugly, shes not. ITs just not her role in the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 3 hours ago, hokie3457 said: Next to the pixie cut, my least favorite Penny 'do. Too close to Farrah Fawcett 70's style....(my opinion only, YMMV).... Anythings better then that awful Ellen Degenres get up she had going most of last year, my god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serena_1995 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) On 6/23/2016 at 8:11 PM, 3ku11 said: Whos making fun of who's looks? Amy? Well let's be honest shes not the chick in the show. That is not a slight, just a fact. Bernadette and Penny are the eyecandy. Amy offers something different intelectualy and that is okay I think , who is eye candy is subjective. I find Zack, Sheldon and Raj cuter and more attractive than Leonard, howard, Kripke and Stuart. But its just my opinion. Also I think Leonard and Amy kinda look alike(on a general level)- they are both very short, wear glasses and a lot of clothing. So Leonard being called unattractive can be distasteful to some, just like it could be distasteful if someone laughed at Amy being considered hot. Edited June 27, 2016 by serena_nyc1995 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensor Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 Ok, here's how it goes. If you want to talk about characters, have at it. Leave references to groups of fans, or what they think, or what you think about other posters out of it. Posts hidden and edited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurrey Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 On 23/06/2016 at 11:22 AM, Stephen Hawking said: Although I am a Shamy shipper, and I love the Amy character, I tune in for the whole show, and all the characters I have a strong preference for the big three and Amy. I'm hopping we will be seeing more of Judd Hirsch in season 10 and perhaps it will give Johnny G more to do. He has almost seemed like a secondary character in the last two years. Having more of Penny's family in set could possibly give Leonard more visibility too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 (edited) Yeah Leonard is susposed to be the main character, as the show is seen from his pov. Like it was with Jerry in Seinfeld. But of course the show has become Sheldon Centric these days. Be good For Johnny to get more screen time. So I agree with the possiblity of Penny's family, gives Leonard more screen time. I would like to see more of Judd in S10. I do like the possiblity of a future episode. Where Alfred returns with a hot older waitress GF, who has uncanny resemblences to Penny LOL. Alot of comedy in that. "Leonard I wasen't that dumb was I?". NO honey you weren't a dumb blonde at all haha. Call it The Cheesecake Factory Waitress Reflex Edited June 26, 2016 by 3ku11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonmar Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 12 minutes ago, 3ku11 said: Yeah Leonard is susposed to be the main character, as the show is seen from his pov. Like it was with Jerry in Seinfeld. But of course the show has become Sheldon Centric these days. Be good For Johnny to get more screen time. So I agree with the possiblity of Penny's family, gives Leonard more screen time. I would like to see more of Judd in S10. I do like the possiblity of a future episode. Where Alfred returns with a hot older waitress GF, who has uncanny resemblences to Penny LOL. Alot of comedy in that. "Leonard I wasen't that dumb was I?". NO honey you weren't a dumb blonde at all haha. Call it The Cheesecake Factory Waitress Reflex I am going to have to disagree with you here. There is no main character. Chuck has made it clear in the beginning that Penny was the audience's view on the "beautiful mind guys" that she met net door and how they became part of her life. She expanded their world and they shared their world and friends with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE7 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 (edited) really, let's see Leonard moved in with Sheldon, then brought over his friends Howard and Raj. Leonard befriended penny making her part of the group. Penny brought in Bernie to meet Howard. Howard and Raj set up the meet with Amy. So if not for Leonard Sheldon would still be alone and isolated from people living by himself in 4A, as Amy said their group of friends is Leonard centric everything flows from and connects to him. Sounds like the main character to me since everything centers on him Edited June 26, 2016 by JE7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurrey Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, vonmar said: I am going to have to disagree with you here. There is no main character. Chuck has made it clear in the beginning that Penny was the audience's view on the "beautiful mind guys" that she met net door and how they became part of her life. She expanded their world and they shared their world and friends with her. I think I get what you are saying but at times it does appear to be from Leonard's POV. Sheldon's extreme childishness. Penny's inconsistency with money (makes twice what he makes, she has gone into debt) Leonard never getting a break (having to take care of Sheldon) We saw a significant number of Leonard's girlfriend's but only saw Penny's dates superficially. We saw none of her trip to Vegas but we did see some of Leonard partying on the boat. The show could have been called Leonard and friends or perhaps Leonard Never gets a Break going by the first 7 seasons. Edited June 26, 2016 by djsurrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonstar17 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 I think Chuck was talking about the original pilot that got rejected by the network. Sent from my SM-G928F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonmar Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 12 minutes ago, Tonstar17 said: I think Chuck was talking about the original pilot that got rejected by the network. Sent from my SM-G928F using Tapatalk Penny wasn't part of the first rejected pilot. It was a different character all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 1 hour ago, vonmar said: I am going to have to disagree with you here. There is no main character. Chuck has made it clear in the beginning that Penny was the audience's view on the "beautiful mind guys" that she met net door and how they became part of her life. She expanded their world and they shared their world and friends with her. Oh I agree with that. I was just pointing out tht the show early on was seen from Leonard's point of view. I agree their is no main character. I agree Penny is the most universal character on the show. Like Sheldon said "Um Penny in this case, I Think you would be the peculiar one" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonstar17 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Yeah. It was a girl called Katie. If i remember correctly. The original premise was based on that idea but got rejected. Sent from my SM-G928F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 That's why I beleive Penny is the most important and invaluable character over even Sheldon and Leonard. The whole premise just changes when she is in the pilot. She brings that energy. And of course she expands the audiences world view on the beautiful mind, as said here. Without Penny you don't get that amazing espec in SEason 1-3 dilaogue of Penny and the guys. Just that awkward timing lol. Take away Penny, youv'e just got Four nerds playing video games, where is the fun in that. Penny evolved their world, partic Leonard's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonmar Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, 3ku11 said: That's why I beleive Penny is the most important and invaluable character over even Sheldon and Leonard. The whole premise just changes when she is in the pilot. She brings that energy. And of course she expands the audiences world view on the beautiful mind, as said here. Without Penny you don't get that amazing espec in SEason 1-3 dilaogue of Penny and the guys. Just that awkward timing lol. Take away Penny, youv'e just got Four nerds playing video games, where is the fun in that. Penny evolved their world, partic Leonard's. From what I remember, Penny is supposed to be us...the viewers, getting to know and fall in love with these guys.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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