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[Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10

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10 hours ago, Jonny said:

It's a no brainer and that's the difference between shows that last say a season or two and one like this one that has 10 and looks like it will have at least 12 under its belt by the end. You have a good concept but you adapt to your audience. Sheldon has evolved in this example because the majority of the audience clearly wanted it to happen.

I know we grumble and complain about a storyline or character/s at times but they know what they are doing, they have proven that for 10 years. They know their show better than anyone.

But also there is the possibility of doing a show the right way (meaning with creative integrity) and making the viewing audience "follow" it , instead of the other way around. IMO the writers know how to keep the ratings going, I guess, but that doesn't mean the overall story is that good, not to mention lack of continuity, character assassination, repeated storylines, unfunny jokes, etc. Also the fact that TBBT is a highly rated show is not only down to the writers. I would venture to say it also has a lot to do with the actors, since sometimes they make what I consider crap almost palatable. All this , of course JMO.

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2 hours ago, Carlos said:

But also there is the possibility of doing a show the right way (meaning with creative integrity) and making the viewing audience "follow" it , instead of the other way around. IMO the writers know how to keep the ratings going, I guess, but that doesn't mean the overall story is that good, not to mention lack of continuity, character assassination, repeated storylines, unfunny jokes, etc. Also the fact that TBBT is a highly rated show is not only down to the writers. I would venture to say it also has a lot to do with the actors, since sometimes they make what I consider crap almost palatable. All this , of course JMO.

I'm not sure the show have prooven they know what they are doing either. Their lazy writing prooves it. The actors are all worthy of better. But since 2013. For better or for worse, the writers have been phoning it in, or winging it. I'm starting to think Season 11 and 12 is a very bad idea. But it's not up to me. And I also don't see much changing with the show over the next two seasons. Based on the last two. Jmo.

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3 hours ago, JohnPhD said:

IMO there's an inconsistency in how nearly normal Amy is portrayed as. When she's with Sheldon she's usually portrayed as very much the more nearly normal one, to the extent of being almost his keeper (altho come to think of it, is drugging your difficult SO for a journey normal?). But without S she sometimes behaves quite abnormally, Eg in the Batchelor Party episode we were told she sat in Penny's closet as a "sin closet" because her crazy mother told her to on the phone. And she herself has been a difficult traveller - eg the 3 women were once unable to fly to Las Vegas because Amy punched a security official. Perhaps Amy as Sheldon's keeper is just a recycling of Leonard and Lenny as Sheldon's keeper. That joke never gets old, does it? Yes, actually.

Interesting point, that. Concur on what a movable feast 'normal' is on the show. And I absolutely agree that Amy of late is allowed to be eccentric and bizarre primarily in the presence of the girls (I am even blanking on recent examples of her weirding out a male Designated Normal like Leonard like she used to do). A pity. There is room for Amy to say things that would make Sheldon look at her with a puzzled frown, and I do so like it when Sheldon is allowed to be the straight man.

hell, I'd love ANY of the rest of the gang to be the weird ones while Sheldon is given a break from his antics. It HAS happened on occasion and it has invariably been delightful. I understand that Sheldon's usually the weird one, but maybe mix it up some more.

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I thought in the last episode we got to see a lot of 'nerd' from the guys concerning their passion for SDCC, Amy and Penny even commenting on it and it's nerdiness.  Sheldon did show himself to be the biggest nerd when the other guys went back to the 'normal' side and decided to stay with their SO's but he still insisted he was going.

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I Also thought instead of mocking the guys for being nerds. The woman enjoyed it. Well Penny did anyway. Penny was willing to go to Comic Con. So at least she was trying. I think Bakersfield Expedition Season 6. Was far better in terms of balance and pacing. But creatively the show well never reach those heights again. I like it more when the girls are getting actively involved in comic books, science fiction, nerd culture etc. "You don't know his life!" Still cracks me up. 

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6 hours ago, SRAM said:

I thought in the last episode we got to see a lot of 'nerd' from the guys concerning their passion for SDCC, Amy and Penny even commenting on it and it's nerdiness.  Sheldon did show himself to be the biggest nerd when the other guys went back to the 'normal' side and decided to stay with their SO's but he still insisted he was going.

So they caved and gave up the "nerd" a passion. Something that they have apparently enjoyed as a group for years, cause the GIRLS don't approve. Please...Bernie tried to get Howard to fail at a massive house keeping list, to keep him from going.  Their baby will be 7 months old by the time Comic Con comes around, not an infant.  Sleeping through the night, eating solid food, etc.  

1 hour ago, 3ku11 said:

I Also thought instead of mocking the guys for being nerds. The woman enjoyed it. Well Penny did anyway. Penny was willing to go to Comic Con. So at least she was trying. I think Bakersfield Expedition Season 6. Was far better in terms of balance and pacing. But creatively the show well never reach those heights again. I like it more when the girls are getting actively involved in comic books, science fiction, nerd culture etc. "You don't know his life!" Still cracks me up. 

Penny agreed to go to make Leonard happy, she was not willing to go, she was dreading it.

The guys have plenty of opportunities to be there for their wives and girlfriends, it makes me sad when they take a truly long-standing nerdy experience like Comic Con and turn it into a "let me prove to you how much I love you" moment by having the guys pass on that annual event. 

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2 hours ago, vonmar said:

  

Penny agreed to go to make Leonard happy, she was not willing to go, she was dreading it.

The guys have plenty of opportunities to be there for their wives and girlfriends, it makes me sad when they take a truly long-standing nerdy experience like Comic Con and turn it into a "let me prove to you how much I love you" moment by having the guys pass on that annual event. 

I don't think Penny was dreading it until Amy started hammering on her on how bad it was, I think a first Penny was just thinking she would support Leonard.

I think the girls should have insisted the guys go, it is something they love and the girls should have encouraged them to still go.  It's like I to go to car shows and my SO doesn't, but she doesn't discourage me from going, she actually reminds me when they are having them, but she doesn't go with me.

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2 minutes ago, SRAM said:

I don't think Penny was dreading it until Amy started hammering on her on how bad it was, I think a first Penny was just thinking she would support Leonard.

I think the girls should have insisted the guys go, it is something they love and the girls should have encouraged them to still go.  It's like I to go to car shows and my SO doesn't, but she doesn't discourage me from going, she actually reminds me when they are having them, but she doesn't go with me.

Agreed, I would have been happier if the episode revolved around the girls urging the guys to go with out them. 

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8 hours ago, SRAM said:

I don't think Penny was dreading it until Amy started hammering on her on how bad it was, I think a first Penny was just thinking she would support Leonard.

I think the girls should have insisted the guys go, it is something they love and the girls should have encouraged them to still go.  It's like I to go to car shows and my SO doesn't, but she doesn't discourage me from going, she actually reminds me when they are having them, but she doesn't go with me.

I would have had them go then you could do something with the girls storyline wise. The girls together doing something (in a boys/girls split) have been some of the best episodes of the show.

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37 minutes ago, Jonny said:

I would have had them go then you could do something with the girls storyline wise. The girls together doing something (in a boys/girls split) have been some of the best episodes of the show.

Well, this story was just about them getting the tickets. SDCC itself is during summer when the show isn't on anyway so I doubt we would have gotten a proper story out of that regardless of the outcome of this episode.

To be fair to the girls here: None of them is against their guy going to CC. They all seem pretty fine with it as long as they don't have to go themselves (nothing wrong with that - the CC circus is not for everyone!). So an alternative ending to this story could have been the guys end up going and the girls plan their own fun weekend.

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Something that should happen S10 but probably won't is the gang going to see "Hidden figures" and talking about it. Obvs Howard would compare himself to John Glenn and be mocked by the others, but I'd rather like:

Penny: Hey, Sheldon, that Paul character looks a lot like you.

Sheldon: Nonsense, he's nothing like me.

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3 minutes ago, JohnPhD said:

Something that should happen S10 but probably won't is the gang going to see "Hidden figures" and talking about it. Obvs Howard would compare himself to John Glenn and be mocked by the others, but I'd rather like:

Penny: Hey, Sheldon, that Paul character looks a lot like you.

Sheldon: Nonsense, he's nothing like me.

That's actually a really great idea.

And if someone's thinking about a re-make of "It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World," the cast of BBT already has four cars filled.

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Something that should happen S10 but probably won't is the gang going to see "Hidden figures" and talking about it. Obvs Howard would compare himself to John Glenn and be mocked by the others, but I'd rather like:
Penny: Hey, Sheldon, that Paul character looks a lot like you.
Sheldon: Nonsense, he's nothing like me.

It's not a movie they would go see, plus BBT doesn't break the fourth wall. Otherwise Penny would have gotten an acting job with Priceline making a Shatner guest appearance a few years ago


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On 2/25/2017 at 7:52 PM, JohnPhD said:

Key point. So far as we've been shown, L doesn't know about R's premjac or, more importantly, that Penny was too drunk to consent to sex when Raj took her to bed. If he finds out, what is he going to do? Call Raj out as a rapist? At least bar him from 4a and get the others to agree to cut Raj out of their group?

At this point we do not know how much Leonard knows about  Penny/Raj night.  Penny has mentioned in Season 8 Episode 4 (Hook-up Reverberation) that everyone knows that they" did not sleep together just fooled around"  But how much is really known. Believe there should be a good heart-to-heart scene with Penny and Leonard where she confesses the whole story, especially now if he is to move into Sheldon's old room. And after this talk Leonard must evaluate if he still wants Raj there.

Additionally, have just read that the producers/writers may have Penny re-evaluating her career and that she may go back to acting. This certainly a big turnaround as she stated she does not want to feel all the anxiety and rejections of auditions.  Also the article stated that her maiden name might be revealed this year.  Has anyone else heard about this?

 

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18 minutes ago, Mario D. said:

At this point we do not know how much Leonard knows about  Penny/Raj night.  Penny has mentioned in Season 8 Episode 4 (Hook-up Reverberation) that everyone knows that they" did not sleep together just fooled around"  But how much is really known. Believe there should be a good heart-to-heart scene with Penny and Leonard where she confesses the whole story, especially now if he is to move into Sheldon's old room. And after this talk Leonard must evaluate if he still wants Raj there.

Additionally, have just read that the producers/writers may have Penny re-evaluating her career and that she may go back to acting. This certainly a big turnaround as she stated she does not want to feel all the anxiety and rejections of auditions.  Also the article stated that her maiden name might be revealed this year.  Has anyone else heard about this?

 

What's the point in revealing her maiden name after the wedding?

To me this sounds pointless, because now we know she is Mrs Hofstadter

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25 minutes ago, Mario D. said:

At this point we do not know how much Leonard knows about  Penny/Raj night.  Penny has mentioned in Season 8 Episode 4 (Hook-up Reverberation) that everyone knows that they" did not sleep together just fooled around"  But how much is really known. Believe there should be a good heart-to-heart scene with Penny and Leonard where she confesses the whole story, especially now if he is to move into Sheldon's old room. And after this talk Leonard must evaluate if he still wants Raj there.

Additionally, have just read that the producers/writers may have Penny re-evaluating her career and that she may go back to acting. This certainly a big turnaround as she stated she does not want to feel all the anxiety and rejections of auditions.  Also the article stated that her maiden name might be revealed this year.  Has anyone else heard about this?

 

Whose the source?  

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18 minutes ago, Lagernisse said:

I think there is a table reading today, if I'm not totally lost. 

There usually is one on Wednesday but Kunal and his wife have been in London for an Indian-British cultural shindig at Buckingham Palace. Like Bert, he didn't believe the invitation at first and thought it was a joke, and then he did believe it.

Apparently The Queen said to him, 'Nice to see you again.' Since they'd never met before he suggests Her Majesty meant she'd seen him on TV. So everybody is a fan of BBT. I hope this means Kunal's getting an OBE :) . (I wonder if they can get HM or Prince Charles on the show ? )

I suppose he could still have made it to the studio in time, jetlag notwithstanding.

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1 hour ago, Lagernisse said:

What's the point in revealing her maiden name after the wedding?

To me this sounds pointless, because now we know she is Mrs Hofstadter

If Penny's family are going to be in it again it might be worth knowing. It would be funny if her father was Wyatt Wyatt.

 

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17 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

There usually is one on Wednesday but Kunal and his wife have been in London for an Indian-British cultural shindig at Buckingham Palace. Like Bert, he didn't believe the invitation at first and thought it was a joke, and then he did believe it.

Apparently The Queen said to him, 'Nice to see you again.' Since they'd never met before he suggests Her Majesty meant she'd seen him on TV. So everybody is a fan of BBT. I hope this means Kunal's getting an OBE :) . (I wonder if they can get HM or Prince Charles on the show ? )

I suppose he could still have made it to the studio in time, jetlag notwithstanding.

lol could you imagine if her maj tunes into E4 every week to watch the show? Being serious though she does watch some pretty surprising television shows and some things you totally wouldn't expect lol.

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54 minutes ago, Lagernisse said:

I think there is a table reading today, if I'm not totally lost. 

25 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

There usually is one on Wednesday but Kunal and his wife have been in London for an Indian-British cultural shindig at Buckingham Palace. Like Bert, he didn't believe the invitation at first and thought it was a joke, and then he did believe it.

Apparently The Queen said to him, 'Nice to see you again.' Since they'd never met before he suggests Her Majesty meant she'd seen him on TV. So everybody is a fan of BBT. I hope this means Kunal's getting an OBE :) . (I wonder if they can get HM or Prince Charles on the show ? )

I suppose he could still have made it to the studio in time, jetlag notwithstanding.

There is (was?) one today - Jim said so in his interview with Dan Patrick (see Jim's thread). I'm sure Kunal is back in the states by now.

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3 hours ago, Mario D. said:

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Additionally, have just read that the producers/writers may have Penny re-evaluating her career and that she may go back to acting. This certainly a big turnaround as she stated she does not want to feel all the anxiety and rejections of auditions.  Also the article stated that her maiden name might be revealed this year.  Has anyone else heard about this?

 

Where did you read that? I did a little search and found only speculations and suggestions

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