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[Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10

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48 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

Amy and Raj?

Which episode are you referring to?

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1 hour ago, Jonny said:

I really enjoyed the very very rare Sheldon and Bernadette pairing for scenes in last season's episode 9.22 The Fermentation Bifurcation. Reviews at the time in regards to the Sheldon/Bernadette scenes said how refreshing it was and really praised those scenes.

I wish they explored a bit more some different pairings for episodes.

I'm surprised how rarely Leonard and Amy have conversations.   Let's face it, they have a lot in common...

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23 minutes ago, Stephen Hawking said:

Which episode are you referring to?

I wasn't. I was just suggesting another pairing.

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37 minutes ago, Jonny said:

Lenny's don't like it which is fair enough.

Between now and the end of the season I would expect that Raj will have some screen time with Shamy or as individuals Sheldon or Amy in 4B. They live just across the hall, so if the writers have Raj encamped in 4A and never venturing over there during the rest of the season they are missing out on a writing/storyline opportunity. Raj and Amy actually get on pretty well when there is no sarcastic snarky shit being thrown around from Raj specifically about her relationship with Sheldon.

This whole 'Raj living with Leonard and Penny' just makes no sense to me, on any level.  He's a physicist at a major research institution. Raj as welfare case makes no sense. The writers are destroying this character.  A guy like he is would have NO problems finding a girlfriend - even one from India - in the circumstances he's in.  There was even an episode where Howard and he go to a Hindu temple.  LOTS of folks go to religious services to meet people.  Trinity in Georgetown [washington dc] is known as the "Catholic meat market."  None of it makes sense.

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50 minutes ago, Capt. Hilts said:

This whole 'Raj living with Leonard and Penny' just makes no sense to me, on any level.  He's a physicist at a major research institution. Raj as welfare case makes no sense. The writers are destroying this character.  A guy like he is would have NO problems finding a girlfriend - even one from India - in the circumstances he's in.  There was even an episode where Howard and he go to a Hindu temple.  LOTS of folks go to religious services to meet people.  Trinity in Georgetown [washington dc] is known as the "Catholic meat market."  None of it makes sense.

Destroying the character seems a bit harsh imo. I mean he is actually getting some storylines at the moment, he was sucked into the Howardette pregnancy and birth for the vast majority of this season with a few episodes where he is complaining about his life.

But I need to see what they have planned for Raj, if his purpose in 4A is to cause trouble for Lenny or possibly a split then no I won't be a fan (not a fan of drama on this show that much). But if he is going to change for the better without hurting anyone and his friends helping him then absolutely fucking yes I would love to see that. I actually like the idea of his friends helping him as he asked them for help, hell it might actually make me tear up if done right and if he succeeds thanks to his close friendship with the gang.

The money situation does have a lot of holes in its story, they are trying to change Raj by clearly making him less dependent and therefore less spoilt from his parents money (remember the ex-girlfriends he invited over? Spoiled by his parents was a criticism from them).

I see it something like a 3 stage process:

1. Sort out Raj's financial situation (which has some unrealistic plot holes but that's clearly what they are going with).

2. Raj then finds a place that he can afford on his own salary without having his parents pay a cent.

3. The new Raj who goes out into the world, finds his true love and settles down like his friends.

Now these are financial based, Raj does also need to work on how he treats women and that will require some radical change.

Of course after all this Raj might end up back at square one by going back to his parents begging for money and end up eating cake on the toilet as he is that single.

I've always been calling for storylines involving Raj's work more, if they can't fix his love life then perhaps they should focus on that.

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14 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

I wasn't. I was just suggesting another pairing.

Sorry. I thought you were identifying Amy and Raj as a previous pairing.

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22 minutes ago, JE7 said:

Raj has never really made sense. Charecter wise over the shows run he is like 5% scientist, 10% Richie Rich, maybe 5% caring friend, 5% ambiguous metro sexual and 75% self centered douche 

The Charecter has never been given any real growth or lasting change and at this point i think he is beyond redemption. It would take to much story and screentime and honestly after 10 years of his behavior does anybody care anymore, i can truthfully say I dont and I would be fine with it if he moves back to India, I mean come on shouldnt his visa be up by now?

Agree. I think the biggest problem about Raj was the writers only seem to develop characters in romantic relationships . Raj has so many stuff that could be develop such is career, study field, the pov of someone who belong to a culture so different from the american and so one. This la arrangement with lenny could be the salvation of his character but it began without any sense about his finatial situation that suppose made him to move in 4A. Really curious about what is going to be up for him but my expectations  are really low...

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What exactly would they be "destroying" anyway? Raj being a spoiled brat? Yeah, nothing of value is lost here. Being spoiled is not something that makes him more interesting as a character.

And yes, the writers have no concept of how much income someone like him would realistically have - but to be fair they don't really for any of the characters. The financial situation of pretty much everyone is all over the place with the writers probably assigning who has and who hasn't money by randomly throwing darts at a wall and see what sticks.

Now, for Raj's situation they at least tried to sell us the idea that he accumulated some extra debts over the years which is what's causing this financial issues to be more dire than they normally would be. Seeing how Raj in the past would spend his money on a lot of useless nonsense I think that's a fair enough idea so I'm willing to roll with it. /shrugs

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3 hours ago, snapepans said:

But sadly, three years later, not that much unusual pairing episodes I can think of.  :icon_neutral:

There is one coming up. :) 

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42 minutes ago, JE7 said:

I mean come on shouldn't his visa be up by now?

His Visa is valid, so long as he is employed at Caltech.

From The Pirate Solution:-

Raj: So, my visa’s only good as long as I’m employed at the university, and when they find out I’ve got squat, they’re going to cut me off. By the way, when I say squat, I mean diddly-squat. I wish I had squat.

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21 minutes ago, April said:

What exactly would they be "destroying" anyway? Raj being a spoiled brat? Yeah, nothing of value is lost here. Being spoiled is not something that makes him more interesting as a character.

And yes, the writers have no concept of how much income someone like him would realistically have - but to be fair they don't really for any of the characters. The financial situation of pretty much everyone is all over the place with the writers probably assigning who has and who hasn't money by randomly throwing darts at a wall and see what sticks.

Now, for Raj's situation they at least tried to sell us the idea that he accumulated some extra debts over the years which is what's causing this financial issues to be more dire than they normally would be. Seeing how Raj in the past would spend his money on a lot of useless nonsense I think that's a fair enough idea so I'm willing to roll with it. /shrugs

Yeah they can be so inconsistent with the financial status of all the characters, in their defense I think most viewers don't really care about small details like that. The episodes are just so short in terms of time, hard to fit everything in dialogue wise.

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Just now, Jonny said:

Yeah they can be so inconsistent with the financial status of all the characters like that.

Sheldon's financial situation is all over the place.

From The Financial Permeability:-

Sheldon: My expenses account for 46.9% of my after-tax income.

From The Dumpling Paradox:-

Sheldon: Well first, we don’t have house guests, frankly if I could afford the rent I’d ask you to leave.

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8 minutes ago, Jonny said:

Yeah they can be so inconsistent with the financial status of all the characters, in their defense I think most viewers don't really care about small details like that.

It would be if it was at least consistent in each character. Sheldon needs a roomate/Sheldon has a drawer full of uncashed checks. Penny has huge debts/Penny has a guy/Penney has huge debts. Lather, rinse, repeat for every character 

 

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2 minutes ago, JE7 said:

It would be if it was at least consistent in each character. Sheldon needs a roomate/Sheldon has a drawer full of uncashed checks. Penny has huge debts/Penny has a guy/Penney has huge debts. Lather, rinse, repeat for every character 

 

I would like to know their financial status for sure, Amy for example is still a great mystery to me. Super frugal, or does her family actually have some wealth?

It's obvious we care about details like that lol this is a fansite we want to know everything about their lives and discuss everything lol. Most of the viewership I suspect aren't too bothered about continuity things like the financial status of characters, they just want a laugh after a hard days work for example.

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And look at Howard.

Both he and Bernadette work (and she is being paid "a butt load of money"), and they have no Mortgage or rent to pay, yet he was panicking about them providing for their child.

14 minutes ago, Jonny said:

Amy for example is still a great mystery to me. Super frugal, or does her family actually have some wealth?

She is definitely Super Frugal.

From The Infestation Hypothesis:-

Amy: I do appreciate a bargain. This entire ensemble once belonged to my dead grandmother.

Penny: You’re kidding.

Amy: Everything except bra and panties. And they’re a leopard-spotted secret I share with Victoria.

From The Skywalker Incursion:-

Amy: Can I be in charge of pricing? I’ve been going to garage sales my whole life. Can you believe I got these pantyhose for a nickel?

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And, with an image of Amy (dressed in nothing but leopard-spotted Bra and Panties) lodged firmly in my mind, I'm just going to take a shower and "brush my teeth". :icon_biggrin: 

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IMO, they should hire some die-hard fans for proofreading the scripts in advance, because the inconsistency problems are getting more and more ridiculous and obvious, to the point even the casual audiences noticed some of them, and they thought those contradictory plots were stupid, and they are NOT happy. Believe me. 

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14 hours ago, Tensor said:

I think it's terrible.  The fact that there is nothing romantic going on isn't what bothers me. It's that TPTB can't seem to write a cute episode for Leonard and Penny.  All the seem to be able to do is an episode that is mostly disagreement between them.  That's why I dwell on it. 

Have to agree with you on this.  While it may not be romantic it does present an  uncomfortable situation for Leonard.  Why is she spending so much time with Raj instead of her husband. Cannot help to think that S4 E24 will come back up again JMO, but I hope not. Maybe if Leonard gets so annoyed by this that he will tell Penny how he really feels and they can move on as a happily married couple. Think the writers  have to come up with a meaningful heart-to-heart scene for Lenny.

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Skull, you are free to have all the opinions you want, about the show show. What you are not allowed to do is make oblique snarky, and/or derogatory comments about other posters opinions.

We hide those posts these days, especially from repeat offenders. It takes too much time, and we are not an editing service.  Follow the rules, and your post won't be hidden.  If you think replys are outside our rules, report them, don't answer them.  If we think they are outside the rules, we will take action on those.

 
 

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13 hours ago, Tensor said:

And I disagree it's cute.  I haven't seen a cute Leonard and Penny Episode this year( an most of the last three  years).  There have been a few cute episodes in eight and nine, dirty store, slutty carrot, a couple of others.  But this year, there's been some cute moments here and there, but that's about it. 

Think their best episode together this year was the Fetal Kick Analyst where Penny signed autographs at a comic-con convention

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8 minutes ago, Mario D. said:

Have to agree with you on this.  While it may not be romantic it does present an  uncomfortable situation for Leonard.  Why is she spending so much time with Raj instead of her husband. Cannot help to think that S4 E24 will come back up again JMO, but I hope not. Maybe if Leonard gets so annoyed by this that he will tell Penny how he really feels and they can move on as a happily married couple. Think the writers  have to come up with a meaningful heart-to-heart scene for Lenny.

See, a meaningful heart to heart just doesn't matter.  They had a wonderful heart to heart in 9.02 (another example of a cute/sweet moment, in an otherwise crappy Lenny episode).  It appears to me that TPTB, don't care about Lenny as long as the show gets their drama from them. It's not all that much fun anymore. 

5 minutes ago, Mario D. said:

Think their best episode together this year was the Fetal Kick Analyst where Penny signed autographs at a comic-con convention

And even there, it was ruined by the "I/he wore her down" comments, and the fact that Leonard treated her like a trophy, not a wife he loves. 

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19 minutes ago, April said:

Later on they went with the "Sheldon has piles of money/uncashed checks, doesn't really care about money and is generous towards his friends" angle???

Not that much later on.

The Dumpling Paradox (where Sheldon implies he can't afford the rent by himself) was series 1, episode 7, and The Financial Permeability (where Sheldon spends less than half his after-tax income on expenses) is series 2 episode 14, around 15 months later.

Did something happen, during those ~ 15 months, that boosted Sheldon's salary, out of all proportion?

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9 minutes ago, Tensor said:

They had a wonderful heart to heart in 9.02 (another example of a cute/sweet moment, in an otherwise crappy Lenny episode). 

An otherwise crappy Lenny episode? If you're talking about the fact that they both went out of their way to save their marriage, that Penny was able to forgive Leonard while they both talked about their biggest fears (losing each other) and received a wedding gift from someone who's usually a major pain in the ass, then sure, I can see how that's total crap.

24 minutes ago, Tensor said:

And even there, it was ruined by the "I/he wore her down" comments

The entire episode is ruined because of one meaningless comment that was supposed to make you laugh? I don't know how to process that.

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