[Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10

[veejay]

That sounds hilarious. Thank you so much for such a detailed report @RJ1013!

[joyceraye]

Thank you, RJ1013. I hope you get a good night's sleep now. Much appreciated that you stayed up late to write it.

[Judith]

@RJ1013 thank you very much! Glad to see you venture into a spoilery thread, even if just for a while!

[April]

@RJ1013

Many thanks for your TR!!! Hope you had a great time! <3

[spidergirl]

1 hour ago, RJ1013 said:

I sent this to Tensor, but I'm not sure if he's around right now, so I'm posting it here. If anyone has questions about this episode or the one taped last week that we got to see, feel free to ask. I'll try to check in tomorrow and answer.

 

The Geology Elevation

Director: Mark Cendrowski

Story by: Chuck Lorre, Eric Kaplan, & Maria Ferari

Teleplay by: Steve Holland, Jim Reynolds, & Jeremy Howe

 

I wasn’t expecting to write a TR, and this is purely from memory. Things might be out of order or missing or otherwise a bit off.

 

At the cafeteria with all the guys. Sheldon is displeased and jealous about the fact that Bert has won a $500k grant for geology research. The other guys congratulate Bert, and Bert tells a boring story about winning the grant. Sheldon offers an insincere congratulations, and when Bert leaves, says something about how Bert didn’t recognize the sarcasm. Leonard says it was the best sarcasm ever. Sheldon thanks Leonard for the compliment.

On the stairs with Leonard, Penny, Amy, and Sheldon. Penny heard Bert on the radio, telling the same boring story as before. Sheldon wonders who even listens to the radio anymore? Amy encourages Sheldon to read Bert’s paper.

At Howard and Bernadette’s kitchen, Howard tells her that he wants to introduce her to someone. It’s a remote control mini-Stephen Hawking. It can spin in circles and has sayings in Hawking’s voice. Bernadette insists that it’s insensitive.

Later at 4A, Amy, Penny, and Leonard watch from the kitchen island while Sheldon reads Bert’s paper in his spot. He makes a bunch of faces while doing so, and Penny says it’s like flipping through the emoji’s on her phone. Talking to the research paper in his hands, Sheldon asks ‘why?’ on one page, and does the same on the next. On the third he says, ‘Oh, that’s why.’ Amy says it sounds like that night when they had coitus. Sheldon realizes the research is pretty good, and Leonard suggests that he and Sheldon go for a walk so Sheldon can cool down

Sheldon and Leonard are out on their walk. To symbolically toss away his anger, Sheldon picks up a rock. The scene cuts back to 4A with Sheldon’s injured feet propped up on the coffee table. Amy checks his feet and puts ice packs on them. She holds his hand and tells him to think about all the good things that he has, including love, a good job, etc. Sheldon tells her that she has all of those same things, but nobody’s lining up to be her. Amy goes to the kitchen to have a drink and rethink her life choices. Penny takes a turn, telling Sheldon to quit being a baby. That works right away, and he agrees, saying that he should think of all the good things that he has and that Bert’s success is not Sheldon’s failure. Amy is not amused. Leonard agrees that Amy should rethink her life choices.

At Howard and Bernadette’s kitchen, Howard tells Raj that he has something to show him. Of himself and Bernadette, one finds the item hilarious, and the other thinks it’s offensive. Raj doesn’t have a hard time figuring out who thinks what.

Back at the cafeteria, Sheldon has resolved not to feel jealous. He hobbles around on his injured feet, and goes over and tells Bert that his research is good. Bert says he’s been hearing that a lot. He also says that as a winner, he can offer suggestions for other nominees for the grant in the future. Since engineers are often overlooked, he asks Sheldon what Wolowitz has been working on. Sheldon says he’s not sure, walks out into the hallway, and we hear a bang and shout. Then Sheldon calls out to Leonard that he is injured again. Leonard excuses himself from the guys, saying that he needs to go take some pictures.

Back at 4A, Sheldon now has an icepack on his head. He went to punch the water fountain and slipped on the water in front of it. I’m not sure if I’ve forgotten the rest of this, or if it ties into the next scene.

All 7 are at 4A to eat. They sympathize with what it’s like to feel jealous. Raj says that he’s jealous of L&P’s relationship and H&B’s. Amy says what about her and Sheldon? Raj says, ok, sure. For her part, Amy mentions how she has felt jealous of Penny’s good looks. But then it was better once Penny cut her hair. The others all agree. Amy insists that she was still hot, but it was a ‘why did that hot girl cut her hair?’ kind of hot. Penny thought it was cute and tries to get Leonard to agree. He talks about how he loves her. There were several other hair jokes in here, but this was only shot once, and I don’t recall them.

A few short scenes of Howard showing the toy to Amy at work, who agrees that it is insensitive. He shows it to Leonard(?), who asks if it can talk. When Howard proudly says yes, he says that it is definitely insensitive. Finally, he shows it to Kripke, who finds it hiwawious and asks if he can drive it into the women’s bathroom. This makes Howard rethink everything.

At Bert’s office, Sheldon admits to him that he’s been feeling jealous and that he thought admitting it would make him feel better. It doesn’t. But he decides that since Bert is his enemy, and Sheldon is his own worst enemy right then, that the enemy of his enemy is his friend. Thus, Bert is his friend. Since they’re friends, Bert wants to know if Sheldon will go to watch the Ellen show with him. Sheldon decides maybe they can’t be friends. Bert says the same things that Amy did earlier, about how Sheldon should appreciate what he has—a girlfriend, etc. Sheldon remember that Bert was once interested in Amy and wants to know if Bert has been jealous of Sheldon’s relationship with her. Bert says he was quite a bit until he won this recent grant. Now he thinks he can do better.

Cut back to 4A, and Sheldon’s hand/wrist is wrapped in an elastic bandage. Amy, Penny, and Leonard can’t believe that he punched Bert. Sheldon says it wasn’t a punch, it was a Captain Kirk karate chop, and he’s not sure Bert even noticed that he did it. To cheer Sheldon up, Leonard brings over a laptop with Stephen Hawking on it. Hawking understands jealousy, noting that he hasn’t gotten a Nobel prize. It’s ok, though, because he’s been on the Simpsons and Star Trek. Sheldon thinks they could change the Lincoln monument to honor Hawking; there’s already that big chair. Hawking mentions how what he’s always wanted is a motorized toy of himself. Leonard walks over to Amy, leans in and says, don’t say anything to Howard. Amy says she’s right ahead of him. (i.e. she knows better than to do that)

Tag scene. Bert and Sheldon are at Ellen. Ellen tells a joke and we see Bert and Sheldon happy in the audience. Sheldon decides she’s great.

Thank so much @RJ1013. Much appreciated

Hope you had a wonderful time!

Edited November 2, 2016 by spidergirl

[Jonny]

Thanks for the TR @RJ1013 and I hope you had a fantastic time! 

[jenafan]

@RJ1013 Thank you so much for the spoilers and giving us material to keep the forum alive until the next episodes.

[bbtfan07]

Great job on the report. Sheldon seems to be getting the worst of it in this one. Did Amy resolve her rethinking of her relationship? She loves him and that should be that. We've been through her stepping back from Sheldon once before!!!

[serena_1995]

Thanks @RJ1013 so much about the detailed taping report ! You have an amazing memory :-)

As for 10.09,  I can't even roll my eyes any more than I already have about this  plot  TBH. How many times have I seen -

Sheldon is a jerk to person x- That person x succeeds in life- Sheldon acts petty- Sheldon is proven wrong.  Sheldon learns a life lesson. Rinse and repeat.

Wasn't this similar to when Howard went to space ? When Leonard went on his expedition ? When Sheldon's  element was disproved ?  When Kripke's work was better than Sheldon ? When Sheldon gave up String theory ? When Sheldon couldn't figure out the Math in the gyroscope ?

These writers are playing that one, again and again and again. 

 Just how many times do they want Sheldon to learn these  "existential crisis lessons " about himself and other people's success before enough is enough ? Isn't he is also being haunted by fucked up melodramatic traumas ? Sometimes I feel,   Sheldon really needs to run away and get some therapy. 

Edited November 2, 2016 by serena_1995

[nusspot]

Thank you, @RJ1013, for the spoilers! So much appreciated. Hope you had a great time! Any funny moments/bloopers during the taping you can share?

 

(Also rolling my eyes at the umpteenth sh*nny bone thrown in the mix before the Big Bang 2.0 Coming in 4B.)

[No Regrets]

Thanks so much for the very detailed taping report, RJ1013. Much appreciated.

I'm trying to get excited about this one, but no such luck. I'm just so, so done with episodes where my favorite characters are reduced to reacting to stuff that Sheldon does. I get it, he's the fan favorite, still doesn't mean I have to love the focus he's getting. I wouldn't want any character on this show to be that much front and center. It's a fucking ensemble cast. At this point I wouldn't mind Leonard and Penny moving to Europe just so I could be done with this show.

No offense to Sheldon fans. I love him just like I love the other characters, but if you stuffed 500 pounds of chocolate down my throat I'd be getting sick of that, too.

Edited November 2, 2016 by No Regrets

[veejay]

10 minutes ago, serena_1995 said:

....

....Sheldon really needs to run away and get some therapy and perspective. 

I would sincerely advocate this.

[April]

16 minutes ago, serena_1995 said:

Thanks @RJ1013 so much about the detailed taping report ! You have an amazing memory :-)

As for 10.09,  I can't even roll my eyes any more than I already have about this  plot  TBH. How many times have I seen -

Sheldon is jerk to person x- That person x succeeds in life- Sheldon acts petty- Sheldon is proven wrong.  Sheldon learns a life lesson. Rinse and repeat.

Wasn't this similar to when Howard went to space ? When Leonard went on his expedition ? When Sheldon's  element was disproved ?  When Kripke's work was better than Sheldon ? When Sheldon gave up String theory ? When Sheldon couldn't figure out the Math in the gyroscope ?

These writers are playing that one, again and again and again. 

 Just how many times do they want Sheldon to learn these  "existential crisis lessons " about himself and other people's success before enough is enough ? Isn't he is also being haunted by fucked up melodramatic traumas ? Sometimes I feel,   Sheldon really needs to run away and get some therapy. 

Yes, he's been shown to react like an ass towards other's success because of his jealousy, but no, none of these episodes ever actually tackled Sheldon trying to overcome his jealousy which is what this episode is about. The premise might be tiresome but it's really not the same and apparently it's been a very literally hurtful lesson for him so hopefully it'll stick.

7 minutes ago, No Regrets said:

Thanks so much for the very detailed taping report, RJ1013. Much appreciated.

I'm trying to get excited about this one, but no such luck. I'm just so, so done with episodes where my favorite characters are reduced to reacting to stuff that Sheldon does. I get it, he's the fan favorite, still doesn't mean I have to love the focus he's getting. I wouldn't want any character on this show to be that much front and center. It's a fucking ensemble cast. At this point I wouldn't mind Leonard and Penny moving to Europe just so I could be done with this show.

No offense to Sheldon fans. I love him just like I love the other characters, but if you stuffed 500 pounds of chocolate down my throat I'd be getting sick of that, too.

I can't even disagree with that cause if the writers wanted a break from the recent Shamy plotline then please do it by giving he other characters some spotlight! I mean, there might have been a reason for them not utilizing Lenny cause Kaley was in Europe over the weekend and maybe they wanted to accommodate her or whatever. But still you could have had a fun group episode or something.

[Jedichic98]

38 minutes ago, April said:

Yes, he's been shown to react like an ass towards other's success because of his jealousy, but no, none of these episodes ever actually tackled Sheldon trying to overcome his jealousy which is what this episode is about. The premise might be tiresome but it's really not the same and apparently it's been a very literally hurtful lesson for him so hopefully it'll stick.

I can't even disagree with that cause if the writers wanted a break from the recent Shamy plotline then please do it by giving he other characters some spotlight! I mean, there might have been a reason for them not utilizing Lenny cause Kaley was in Europe over the weekend and maybe they wanted to accommodate her or whatever. But still you could have had a fun group episode or something.

As I've stated in the past I don't want it to be the shamy/Sheldon show as much as I love both these things. I'll gladly accept some mixing it up.

[Shamyyy^-^]

Thanks for the report!!!

[Jonny]

I was kind of surprised Sheldon being an ass directly or indirectly to Bert didn't happen at the brunch in all honesty. We all know his thoughts overall on Geology, I am glad it didn't happen then but when he wasn't in that same environment I guess his devil on his shoulder was perhaps louder in this situation.

I would echo the thoughts by many about Sheldon being an ass, finding out perhaps through an intervention in some way but then resolving it has been done to death. Most of the time I now find that tedious at times even though he has evolved a lot and seems to come to that realization he fucked up sooner than he did thanks to the level he has evolved.

I actually like Bert and think he could be a good friend to the group or perhaps Sheldon/Amy/Shamy. And no I don;t see him as a threat to the Shamy relationship.

Well we got a change of pace episode largely free of some of the current themes we have recently seen and there appears to be more group stuff. Have they finally remembered that Howardette actually exist in their social group after a few episodes lol?

I think overall it will be a mixed episode going by the sounds of the TR, some funny moments coupled with some cringe, ugh! moments.

[mirs1]

 I'm not a huge fan of today episode, but I have to sayI  liked all the meta-references in it. First off, the "Somebody's else success is not your failure", I couldn't believe actually Sheldon said that, that is one of the things Jim often repeats during his interviews. Then all the hair talk about Penny/Kaley, that was clever too. Finally, also SH speaking about him not winning the Nobel prize is very very meta. If I remember correctly he might have a shot now, since one of his theories has been proven or is in the process of being proven by an experiment, so there's still hope for him. But, as others have said, it's pretty difficult for a theoretical physicist to ever win one, I don't know how Sheldon can be so confident about his own, LOL! Last but not least, I also liked that Ellen Degeneres was in the episode, I like her very much and her interviews with the cast members are always funny.  Speaking of interviews, I can see some from the cast to go on her show to advertise her cameo. That would be great!

Edited November 2, 2016 by mirs1

[wonder63]

thanks for the report.

Seems Bert is fast becoming a recurring character like Stuart. And one we will see more of now going forward. 

Ellen appears - awesome. I was wondering if she would ever appear on the show. I guess the cast will appear on her show for real to promote this guest appearance. 

Edited November 2, 2016 by wonder63

[Chrismo]

Another Sheldon episode. Another Sheldon jealous. Too bad the episode couldn't have turned into Amy dumping Sheldon for Bert considering the last few years Sheldons career been a total flop

 

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[Tensor]

24 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

Another Sheldon episode. Another Sheldon jealous. 

But we don't have to worry, there is still plenty of time for them to come up with something for Lenny, we have 2/3 of the season left.    We could get  them behind the island.  Penny talking to and explaining life to Sheldon, after Amy fails.  Penny not talking to her husband, just hides his things, because, she has Sheldon to talk to.

  I know, have them go out to dinner, have some guy hit on Penny, she shows him her ring and the guy questions how she can be with Leonard.  She just shrugs and says "He wore me down".    

[RJ1013]

6 hours ago, bbtfan07 said:

Great job on the report. Sheldon seems to be getting the worst of it in this one. Did Amy resolve her rethinking of her relationship? She loves him and that should be that. We've been through her stepping back from Sheldon once before!!!

It’s hard to make this clear in a TR, but this was really a fleeting, throw-away, nothing moment. Sheldon was obviously upset, and rather than picking a fight with him about his brief bout of insensitivity, Amy walks across the room to get a drink. The only real attachment this might have to the main plot is that when Bert is later the one to be rude with regard to Amy, we get to find out how unacceptable Sheldon finds that to be.

6 hours ago, nusspot said:

Thank you, @RJ1013, for the spoilers! So much appreciated. Hope you had a great time! Any funny moments/bloopers during the taping you can share?

 

(Also rolling my eyes at the umpteenth sh*nny bone thrown in the mix before the Big Bang 2.0 Coming in 4B.)

I had great seats with most things being filmed right in front of me, so I had a great time  Other than a few messed up lines, there wasn't much in the way of bloopers or behind the scenes moments. Mayim sat in Sheldon's spot and read a magazine when the audience was having pizza. It amused me to see 'Amy' casually hanging out in Sheldon's spot. 

As for the Shenny thing, Penny yells at Sheldon and calls him a baby. Sheldon then is the one who reiterates what Amy just said, so to be clear, it's more like Penny jars him out of his pouty funk, but it’s Amy’s words that have actually reached him. I didn't find that part funny, though

[luminous]

12 minutes ago, Tensor said:

I know, have them go out to dinner, have some guy hit on Penny, she shows him her ring and the guy questions how she can be with Leonard.  She just shrugs and says "He wore me down".    

Me...If I ever hear this "he wore me down" again.

[nusspot]

12 minutes ago, RJ1013 said:

It’s hard to make this clear in a TR, but this was really a fleeting, throw-away, nothing moment. Sheldon was obviously upset, and rather than picking a fight with him about his brief bout of insensitivity, Amy walks across the room to get a drink. The only real attachment this might have to the main plot is that when Bert is later the one to be rude with regard to Amy, we get to find out how unacceptable Sheldon finds that to be.

I had great seats with most things being filmed right in front of me, so I had a great time  Other than a few messed up lines, there wasn't much in the way of bloopers or behind the scenes moments. Mayim sat in Sheldon's spot and read a magazine when the audience was having pizza. It amused me to see 'Amy' casually hanging out in Sheldon's spot. 

As for the Shenny thing, Penny yells at Sheldon and calls him a baby. Sheldon then is the one who reiterates what Amy just said, so to be clear, it's more like Penny jars him out of his pouty funk, but it’s Amy’s words that have actually reached him. I didn't find that part funny, though

Thank you so much for clarifying!

[vonmar]

Thanks @RJ1013 Great job on the TR.

Much appreciated.

[A Shamy gal]

Thank you @RJ1013

Edited November 2, 2016 by A Shamy gal