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Once upon a time, I was here because of watching an extraordinary comedy (usually), now I'm getting bored with a slobbery soap. Sigh. I’m still happy to recognize my beloved character again sometimes but it's not always sink or swim.

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BTW. no news from the front today? :shy:

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ha, here we go. Thanks, Martin.
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Not romance per say as much as alienating a section of viewers by destroying what they watched the show for to artificially push a chosen agenda. The show flowed naturally and it's audience grew and syndication happened, then the began to stray from their original path I don't think seasons 8,9,10 etc.. will be as popular in syndication as 1 thru 3 or even 4 thru 7 I have no data to support that just my thoughts and anecdotal evidence

5 minutes ago, luminous said:
We have a title. "The Locomotion Reverberation"

 

Lorrie name as a writer is NOT a good omen

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I'm one of those rare Lennys that stays positive against all rumoured and real evidence to the contrary ( and yeah I didn't mind 8.24 despite the absurdity of the end) but this really is pushing the limits of credibility to have Penny envious of the Shamy relationship. The Shamy is so far removed from the life Penny has ever had it is absurd. It's crap ( there - an angry reaction from itwasdestined[emoji12])

However..........

As pointless as it is to debate in the current climate, a brief tweet using a ridiculous adjective like "envious" doesn't have to be as bad as it seems even if 100% true. What we DON'T know is what she is envious of. Doesn't have to be envious of the ENTIRE Shamy relationship;COULD?!? be an aspect of the relationship she brings up that she's envious of. I don't know, it could be that their generally honest and open communication is something Penny envies. It could be that she yearns for the early stages of the Lenny relationship, seeing Shamy as the early ( albeit VERY different) excitement she immaturely is missing, a bit of a throwback to her session on the couch with the psychiatrist. I may we'll be clutching at straws and I doubt my feeble attempts at positivity will make one iota off a difference to the rest of the Lenny community.

But I'm gonna pull up a seat with FileXxx this week and wait for the whole story. Everyone else is still welcome to fill their bomb shelters with supplies and old tapes of vintage Lenny while waiting for the end of days[emoji16]


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30 minutes ago, Itwasdestined said:

Everyone else is still welcome to fill their bomb shelters with supplies and old tapes of vintage Lenny while waiting for the end of daysemoji16.png


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The family gathers round their tablet awaiting the latest TR..

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11 minutes ago, Vittoria Jacoel said:

The title can be referred to the episode of the kiss train or sheldon'train travel in season 7?

We got some BTS pictures yesterday and Mayim and Jim were pre-taping some scenes at a train museum with Sheldon in some sort of train conductor's outfit. So that title seems to refer to whatever is going on there.

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31 minutes ago, Itwasdestined said:

I'm one of those rare Lennys that stays positive against all rumoured and real evidence to the contrary ( and yeah I didn't mind 8.24 despite the absurdity of the end) but this really is pushing the limits of credibility to have Penny envious of the Shamy relationship. The Shamy is so far removed from the life Penny has ever had it is absurd. It's crap ( there - an angry reaction from itwasdestinedemoji12.png)

However..........

As pointless as it is to debate in the current climate, a brief tweet using a ridiculous adjective like "envious" doesn't have to be as bad as it seems even if 100% true. What we DON'T know is what she is envious of. Doesn't have to be envious of the ENTIRE Shamy relationship;COULD?!? be an aspect of the relationship she brings up that she's envious of. I don't know, it could be that their generally honest and open communication is something Penny envies. It could be that she yearns for the early stages of the Lenny relationship, seeing Shamy as the early ( albeit VERY different) excitement she immaturely is missing, a bit of a throwback to her session on the couch with the psychiatrist. I may we'll be clutching at straws and I doubt my feeble attempts at positivity will make one iota off a difference to the rest of the Lenny community.

But I'm gonna pull up a seat with FileXxx this week and wait for the whole story. Everyone else is still welcome to fill their bomb shelters with supplies and old tapes of vintage Lenny while waiting for the end of daysemoji16.png


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Yes well there was a line in one episode that Penny was jealous of Sheldon for being tall, thin and famous but it was just a joke for one episode. No significant meaning.

 

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Penny: How can you not be happy? You're tall, thin and famous. Oh, my God, I'm jealous of Sheldon. 

 

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With the character from the military turning up again has he just appeared to check on the progress? Is the 2 years to get it done now not soon enough? Has another team or country made something similar and they have made more progress? Could the whole project and therefore Howard's financial lifeline be in jeopardy?

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With the character from the military turning up again has he just appeared to check on the progress? Is the 2 years to get it done now not soon enough? Has another team or country made something similar and they have made more progress? Could the whole project and therefore Howard's financial lifeline be in jeopardy?


With Leonard spending all his time playing video games in his underwear and disappointing Penny, Howard being a new dad and Sheldon being the world expert in romance, have they even worked on their project lately?


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4 minutes ago, Itwasdestined said:

 


With Leonard spending all his time playing video games in his underwear and disappointing Penny, Howard being a new dad and Sheldon being the world expert in romance, have they even worked on their project lately?


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lol well it must be one of those situations where they must be working on it but we don't see it. Which might be a good thing as I know a lot of people (myself included at times) weren't exactly enamored with that particular storyline. Unless Sheldon came up with the math solution to make it function at a smaller size I am not sure Leonard and Howard could do much on it anyway.

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29 minutes ago, Jonny said:

lol well it must be one of those situations where they must be working on it but we don't see it. Which might be a good thing as I know a lot of people (myself included at times) weren't exactly enamored with that particular storyline. Unless Sheldon came up with the math solution to make it function at a smaller size I am not sure Leonard and Howard could do much on it anyway.

Sitting around in their underwear playing video games? Sounds more like Howard, Raj and Stuart in the Wolowitz house. Bernadette must really sympathize with her friend Penny.

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10 hours ago, FileXxX said:

Did you miss me? :) 

It all depends on how you look at the episode. From the TR I don't get the feeling she's envious at all. She just feels Leonard is taking her for granted and that's also the official description (PR) of the episode. If that's how their take on the episode looks like, that's fine.

Maybe @CaffeineBuzz could weigh in on that.

Ok I'll weigh in but try not to shoot the messenger.  

The way Mayim and Co. are advertising this episode is not off the mark.  The episode does play off as Penny is envious of the Shamy relationship because they make a point of highlighting all episode (in front of Penny) how happy Shamy is, how many great things Sheldon does for Amy and vice versa.  Its very intentionally acted and very intentionally scripted.  This is EXACTLY the feel they were going for.  They contrast the dynamic of the two couples pretty much most of the episode, I'm guessing to make the Lenny drama part more plausible?  Cause I'm not gonna lie, even me as a Shamy shipper felt it was coming out of nowhere for Penny to be all mopey and complaining Leonard doesn't try enough but they hammer it home with examples all episode to support that yes, that's how she feels.  Penny does lament that she's unhappy that Leonard isn't trying enough, not like he used to meanwhile she's asking the girls and they both weigh in with examples.  Bernadette weighs in with examples of longer married stuff and that its ok Penny will get used to the shift and on the flip side you have Shamy who are in their lovey dovey phase which isn't helping Penny feel any better.

The orginal TR did reflect that but its not an exageration, that's how it plays.

That being said.... I still feel (and this is just my two cents) that this argument was out of the blue and not justified.  I have a real issue with the idea that Leonard suddenly doesn't try enough when all the guy has ever done is chase and woo this girl.  So to me, it bothers me and I feel for Leonard (despite all the set up they try to throw in there to make you feel Penny has a point).  And I'm super happy that at one point in their initial argument he does stand up for himself and refute her claim he isn't trying.

This will be a weird episode for you all, I'm not gonna lie.   It still feels to me that the fight isn't justified, and that's coming from a non Lenny, know what I mean?

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Ok I'll weigh in but try not to shoot the messenger.  
The way Mayim and Co. are advertising this episode is not off the mark.  The episode does play off as Penny is envious of the Shamy relationship because they make a point of highlighting all episode (in front of Penny) how happy Shamy is, how many great things Sheldon does for Amy and vice versa.  Its very intentionally acted and very intentionally scripted.  This is EXACTLY the feel they were going for.  They contrast the dynamic of the two couples pretty much most of the episode, I'm guessing to make the Lenny drama part more plausible?  Cause I'm not gonna lie, even me as a Shamy shipper felt it was coming out of nowhere for Penny to be all mopey and complaining Leonard doesn't try enough but they hammer it home with examples all episode to support that yes, that's how she feels.  Penny does lament that she's unhappy that Leonard isn't trying enough, not like he used to meanwhile she's asking the girls and they both weigh in with examples.  Bernadette weighs in with examples of longer married stuff and that its ok Penny will get used to the shift and on the flip side you have Shamy who are in their lovey dovey phase which isn't helping Penny feel any better.
The orginal TR did reflect that but its not an exageration, that's how it plays.
That being said.... I still feel (and this is just my two cents) that this argument was out of the blue and not justified.  I have a real issue with the idea that Leonard suddenly doesn't try enough when all the guy has ever done is chase and woo this girl.  So to me, it bothers me and I feel for Leonard (despite all the set up they try to throw in there to make you feel Penny has a point).  And I'm super happy that at one point in their initial argument he does stand up for himself and refute her claim he isn't trying.
This will be a weird episode for you all, I'm not gonna lie.   It still feels to me that the fight isn't justified, and that's coming from a non Lenny, know what I mean?

Thank you for giving us your opinion because i think imo most of us lennys can't comprehend what tptb are trying to do to lenny

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