[Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10

[3ku11]

Leonard and Alex OTP!!! 

4 hours ago, Tensor said:

Actually, the point it if she is going to demand that he put more effort into his looks, she should be doing the same.  Just like Leonard has no right to demand Penny do all she can to look good, if he is not doing all he can.  

I don't think Penny ever demanded Leonard put more effort into his looks. Unless I missed something.

[Tensor]

4 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

I don't think Penny ever demanded Leonard put more effort into his looks. Unless I missed something.

So, you think she like the underwear on the couch look?  

[djsurrey]

1 hour ago, Squonk said:

On 28/01/2017 at 2:00 PM, djsurrey said:

The future of Lenny could be 90% dependent on salary negotiations and who stays. How many seasons could we get out of Leonard and Alex?

Huh??? I watched season 9 on DVD (fell asleep half-way through though), and Leonard is now with Alex?

Perhaps you missed the key words here "future", "could" and "salary negotiations"?

[serenaded214]

So, you think she like the underwear on the couch look?  

Looking like your regular self does not require a crap ton of effort. That's all penny wants from him. To put some pants on like normal. Idk why people interpret that as her "demanding he put more effort in."

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[Chrismo]

2 hours ago, serenaded214 said:

Looking like your regular self does not require a crap ton of effort. That's all penny wants from him. To put some pants on like normal. Idk why people interpret that as her "demanding he put more effort in."

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Then why didn't she put the effort into telling him WHILE sitting on the couch and burping?

Edited January 30, 2017 by Chrismo

[joyceraye]

2 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

Then why didn't she put the effort into telling him WHILE sitting on the couch and burping?

We don't know that she didn't.

While we weren't watching she may have made him aware that dancing in your underpants is acceptable but playing games so clad is not. 

[Chrismo]

2 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

We don't know that she didn't.

While we weren't watching she may have made him aware that dancing in your underpants is acceptable but playing games so clad is not. 

We don't know if he ever did that before either. We know Penny has played video games with Cheetos in her hair.

[Carlos]

19 hours ago, serena_1995 said:

why must Penny take a long hard look in the mirror and feel bad about her looks ?? Penny must look sexy for Leonard at all costs, but god forbid, if she expects the same from him.  I agree, it takes two to tango, but when it comes to staying attractive, Penny is the clearly the one putting in more effort than Leonard IMO. It has partly to do with her job also, but still.

Well to be fair, I mean really fair, I don't know if she actually puts more effort in staying attractive, she just is (more attractive I mean). Besides that, the only time Leonard was shown being a slob was that one time. Furthermore, Penny was much more of a slob for a long time. Remember her apartment? IMO Penny must take a long hard look in the mirror and stop complaining that Leonard is not putting enough effort, because as far as effort is concerned he has been the one carrying the relationship since it started.

5 hours ago, serenaded214 said:

Looking like your regular self does not require a crap ton of effort. That's all penny wants from him. To put some pants on like normal. Idk why people interpret that as her "demanding he put more effort in."
 

So a husband cannot be comfortable in his underwear in front of his wife? Really? This is news to me! And I've been married for 25 years. Granted my marriage isn't like Lenny's: my wife doesn't hide away any of my stuff....

[JE7]

In Light of the ongoing contract negotiations I found d it interesting that at the SAG awards Jim Parsons who was nominated for ensemble cast with TBBT and for his role in the movie Hidden Figures chose to sit at the table with his Hidden Figures castmates instead of with the rest of the TBBT cast.

Could mean nothing but as he negotiates alone I couldn't help but wonder if he was purposely distancing himself from the rest of the TBBT cast.

Oh and someone needs to tell Simon to keep his political opinion to himself instead of writing them on his wife's chest, it was just a stupid play to make sure his picture got "exposure" in the media and looked ridiculous

Edited January 30, 2017 by JE7

[No Regrets]

1 minute ago, JE7 said:

Oh and someone needs to tell Simon to keep his political opinion to himself instead of writing them on his wife's chest, it was just a stupid play to make sure his picture got "exposure" in the media

Last I checked he has every right to voice his opinion where he wants and whenever he wants. And I'm glad he and his wife did.

[JE7]

34 minutes ago, No Regrets said:

Last I checked he has every right to voice his opinion where he wants and whenever he wants. And I'm glad he and his wife did.

Indeed he does, but as a person who makes his living by pleasing as large an audience as possible he has to be aware that MANY of his viewers disagree and in fact may well not pay to see the next project he is in , me for one.

We all have political opinions Kaley for example wore a Hillery sweatshirt once on the show and posted a non specific Instagram after the election, nothing that would lose her fans but got her feelings across, Simon it appears needs to learn subtlety because writing your opinion on your wife's boobs with a sharpie for a red carpet event is just obvious trolling for attention.

ANYWAY, the main point was is Parsons dissing his TBBT castmates? And why?

Edited January 30, 2017 by JE7
Why yes I am deplorable :)

[April]

25 minutes ago, JE7 said:

ANYWAY, the main point was is Parsons dissing his TBBT castmates? And why?

He wasn't dissing his TBBT castmates. He said it wasn't solely his decision and that the compromise was that the TBBT and HF tables were close together. It's not like he was avoiding them the whole evening or anything. He literally sat back to back with Mayim. Jeez.

I'm sure there was quite a bit of pressure to sit with HF cause it's a very prestigious project that's getting a ton of awards right now. When I found out where he would sit I had a hunch that this means HF will win and TBBT won't which is what happened so... yeah.

[No Regrets]

28 minutes ago, JE7 said:

Indeed he does, but as a person who makes his living by pleasing as large an audience as possible he has to be aware that MANY of his viewers disagree and in fact may well not pay to see the next project he is in , me for one.

I think Simon is well aware that people might disagree with him, just like Johnny. I think he just doesn't care because my guess is that this issue is more important to him which I don't blame either of them for. Just to be clear: if someone had worn a Trump t-shirt that would've been their right, too. And on that note, let's agree to disagree on this. 

Re: Jim -- I'm not familiar with how it's decided where people sit and why, but I was also surprised that Jim sat somewhere else.

[JE7]

12 minutes ago, April said:

He wasn't dissing his TBBT castmates. He said it wasn't solely his decision and that the compromise was that the TBBT and HF tables were close together. It's not like he was avoiding them the whole evening or anything. He literally sat back to back with Mayim. Jeez.

I'm sure there was quite a bit of pressure to sit with HF cause it's a very prestigious project that's getting a ton of awards right now. When I found out where he would sit I had a hunch that this means HF will win and TBBT won't which is what happened so... yeah.

And the fact that Kaley new nothing about it until he mentioned it ON the red carpet? A "very prestigious project" you say does it pay him 24 mlion a year? Did it get him an exec. Producer job on a Sheldon spin-off?  Did it make him a household name? Was it this "prestigious project" which has him set for life? 

I don't think so

12 minutes ago, No Regrets said:

I think Simon is well aware that people might disagree with him, just like Johnny. I think he just doesn't care because my guess is that this issue is more important to him which I don't blame either of them for. Just to be clear: if someone had worn a Trump t-shirt that would've been their right, too. And on that note, let's agree to disagree on this. 

Re: Jim -- I'm not familiar with how it's decided where people sit and why, but I was also surprised that Jim sat somewhere else.

Agree to disagree it is

Edited January 30, 2017 by JE7

[3ku11]

12 hours ago, Tensor said:

So, you think she like the underwear on the couch look?  

But that has noting to do with how attractive Leonard is. I'm sure Leonard got an eye opener in The Barbarian Sublimation. Which was a true example of slobbish Penny. 

[Jonny]

Won't get into the nitty-gritty politics of it all as this isn't a political forum (thank goodness!) but I will say the whole thing reminds me of the Brexit build up and result, the splits involved in terms of class and affluence and the inability for some sections of society to comprehend the end result. Simon and his wife are entitled to their views just as is someone else on the opposite end of the political spectrum. Politics is so tribal and so messy.

In terms of Jim sitting with the Hidden Figures actors and production staff I don't see the issue here and it is up to him where he sits. If anyone associated with TBBT has a problem with it then that's their prerogative though I doubt we would hear anything about it if they were.

Sad to see the show not win an award. 

Edited January 30, 2017 by Jonny

[April]

35 minutes ago, JE7 said:

And the fact that Kaley new nothing about it?

Kaley was clearly joking and Jim apparently talked that through with everyone weeks ago.

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A "very prestigious project" you say does it pay him 24 mlion a year? Did it get him an exec. Producer job on a Sheldon spin-off?  Did it make him a household name? Was it this "prestigious project" which has him set for life? 

I don't think so

"Prestigious" is a word which here means honoured or highly regarded and as such a "very prestigious project" is a phrase that describes a film that is raking in a whole lot of praise from audiences and critics. If you don't think getting nominations and awards left and right doesn't make a prestigious movie then that's your issue, not Jim's. He is very proud of this movie and rightfully so. I don't see a problem with him deciding to stick to HF this time since it seems to be a decision that wasn't taken lightly as a slight to his TBBT colleagues or some such nonsense. Just because TBBT made Jim rich and famous doesn't mean he shouldn't ever support any other project that's dear to his heart.

[JE7]

3 hours ago, Jonny said:

Won't get into the nitty-gritty politics of it all as this isn't a political forum (thank goodness!) but I will say the whole thing reminds me of the Brexit build up and result, the splits involved in terms of class and affluence and the inability for some sections of society to comprehend the end result. Simon and his wife are entitled to their views just as is someone else on the opposite end of the political spectrum. Politics is so tribal and so messy.

In terms of Jim sitting with the Hidden Figures actors and production staff I don't see the issue here and it is up to him where he sits. If anyone associated with TBBT has a problem with it then that's their prerogative though I doubt we would hear anything about it if they were.

Sad to see the show not win an award. 

Don't misunderstand me it wasn't so much the message I found problematic even if I disagree, it was more the Way it was delivered which was simply tasteless

On Jim I am a beginning to believe that he like TPTB think he is the "Irreplaceable star" of the show. They already have him another gig with the prequel and and since he negotiates alone will most likely want a huge and expensive deal. J&K will want the same just like last time and I have major doubts that TPTB hold them as high a priority and if they do get parity that would most likely make the show to expensive to continue as is.

The Sheldon centric state of the show may will be what kills it

 

3 hours ago, April said:

Kaley was clearly joking and Jim apparently talked that through with everyone weeks ago.

"Prestigious" is a word which here means honoured or highly regarded and as such a "very prestigious project" is a phrase that describes a film that is raking in a whole lot of praise from audiences and critics. If you don't think getting nominations and awards left and right doesn't make a prestigious movie then that's your issue, not Jim's. He is very proud of this movie and rightfully so. I don't see a problem with him deciding to stick to HF this time since it seems to be a decision that wasn't taken lightly as a slight to his TBBT colleagues or some such nonsense. Just because TBBT made Jim rich and famous doesn't mean he shouldn't ever support any other project that's dear to his heart.

 And awards don't pay the bills so therefore are secondary to the show HE IS ON NOW THAT WAS ALSO NOMINATED AS A WHOLE CAST not just him as an individual but he CHOSE to prioritize his INDIVIDUAL nomination. I think the only thing equal to Sheldon's ego may well be his own

And I saw it to she didn't appear to be "clearly joking" to me

[Jonny]

31 minutes ago, JE7 said:

Don't misunderstand me it wasn't so much the message I found problematic even if I disagree, it was more the Way it was delivered which was simply tasteless

Maybe there is a dress code for an event like this and they felt this was the only way they could express their opinions? Whether it's tasteless or not is up to each individual and the opinion they form, I personally would agree the writing on the skin does look a bit tacky.

But all over social media and I would imagine all over newspapers that picture will be everywhere, so I guess that's what they went for and whether you agree with their political stance or not they got their views publicized. From a PR standpoint it's probably genius.

36 minutes ago, JE7 said:

On Jim I am a beginning to believe that he like TPTB think he is the "Irreplaceable star" of the show. They already have him another gig with the prequel and and since he negotiates alone will most likely want a huge and expensive deal. J&K will want the same just like last time and I have major doubts that TPTB hold them as high a priority and if they do get parity that would most likely make the show to expensive to continue as is.

The Sheldon centric state of the show may will be what kills it

If you think that then fine 'to each his/her own', there is certainly no way of knowing if that's true or not as none of us are inside his head nor has he gone on record with opinions stating his importance.

I don't think the show would survive for long without any of the core cast and that includes Jim. I think it's fair to suggest he is probably the most iconic character on the show, when you hear people talking about the show he's usually the first character mentioned even by people who don't watch the show religiously and only catch the occasional one including repeats of earlier seasons. Even if you accept that he is it's blatantly obvious to me it won't work without the others.

The spin off I think is going to be a flop for many reasons.

In terms of J&K and the future of any of actors all we can do is wait and see what happens in terms of a new deal. Lots of wild speculation over this past year with a lot of it coming from non credible sources and also there is a lot of 'fan is unhappy= therefore actors must be unhappy' thought process going on right now.

At the end of the day the deal in place doesn't lie, we will pretty much know the truth then. If we get a new deal in place with everyone on board, if actors have left, if the show isn't coming back, pay details for actors etc. We will know it all within the next few months.

[JE7]

6 minutes ago, Jonny said:

 

Thank you for an intelligent and reasonable response 

And your right only time will tell what happens but I have a feeling TBBT as we know it ends with season 10

[April]

3 hours ago, JE7 said:

 And awards don't pay the bills so therefore are secondary to the show HE IS ON NOW THAT WAS ALSO NOMINATED AS A WHOLE CAST not just him as an individual but he CHOSE to prioritize his INDIVIDUAL nomination. I think the only thing equal to Sheldon's ego may well be his own

And I saw it to she didn't appear to be "clearly joking" to me

 

1) No one said he can never do wrong. But yes, he appears to be a decent human being. I'm also pretty certain he's capable of talking to people and communicating certain arrangements in advance. I'd even go as far and assume he has pondered the pros and cons with whoever else was involved in this decision. Shocking, I know.

2) The movie is also IN CINEMAS NOW and HE WAS NOMINATED AS PART OF THE WHOLE CAST NOT AS AN INDIVIDUAL so that point is completely moot.

3) His fans seems to be fine with that. As long as he puts on a nice suit and makes a cute selfie with Todd and/or Mayim (and we got both) no one complains. Heck, we even got some cute and funny squabbling with Kaley on top of it. It's an award show - kind of a big deal, sure, but not the biggest deal either. And yes Kaley said she was just making some shit up for the rumours cause there were so many floating around all the time.

[Chrismo]

The thing is he blew off the People's Choice Awards. To me an award show is more of a fans show. Let's be honest the SAG awards show is just about ego stroking. As to where JP sat I think he knew which table was going to be the winning table. I don't buy he didn't have a choice in the matter.

[JE7]

57 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

As to where JP sat I think he knew which table was going to be the winning table.

My point exactly why sit with who brung ya if you can sit at the winners.

Also I just realized a surprising and somewhat sad analogy.  If that is true it means that The actor who plays a hugely popular character that was bullied to the extreme in his younger days resulting in many emotional and psychological problems and behaviors  and who many fans personally identify with, dumped his friends of ten years to sit at the cool kids table. 

I am not saying he did it with malice just that it can be perceived that way.

Or maybe it's just me, I have been up all night 

 

Edited January 30, 2017 by JE7

[joyceraye]

Sometimes you just have to share yourself out fairly. If you've sat with one group nine or ten times already and a new group will only get the chance to have you with them this once, the kind thing is to sit with the new group.  With a fair wind and following breeze you'll be with the old group again next year anyway.

We don't 'arf need an episode to discuss. Roll on Tuesday night and Wednesday morning, not to mention Thursday and Friday. Is anyone going on Tuesday ? Have a great time and please do tell us all about it.

[Chrismo]

5 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

  With a fair wind and following breeze you'll be with the old group again next year anyway.

We don't 'arf need an episode to discuss. Roll on Tuesday night and Wednesday morning, not to mention Thursday and Friday. Is anyone going on Tuesday ? Have a great time and please do tell us all about it.

They already appear to cast a younger Sheldon the group may not be together or if they are the show is over then.

I agree we need a taping on here. Thursday will give us something else to argue.