[Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10

[DoctorWhat]

Are people honestly complaining about the tables?This wasn't some friend's party where you choose your company,it was an award show,that means business.I don't mean JP didn't choose his seat himself,because no one can really make you but honestly why wouldn't he sit where he sat?He wasn't dissing his friends,I doubt these people are friends tbh (they just seem to have a healthy friendly professional relationship),he left his colleagues of one project to sit with his new ones...how did this become personal all of a sudden?

[JE7]

 

To start off I asked a legitimate question, is Jim Parsons distancing himself from TBBT?

He has the Sheldon prequel and at least 3 other projects going with his production company, skipped the PCA's, didn't sit with the rest of the cast at the sag awards, has a political talk show on sirrus XM, he's branched out to plays and "prestigious" movies and like last time he ihas chosen to negotiate his TBBT contract as a lone wolf.

The question, has he "outgrown" TBBT?  Is he done and ready to move on while his popularity is high?

The argument can be made that recent and not so recent events can be interpreted that he may well have. The simple fact that many don't like the idea  doesn't change that

[hokie3457]

3 hours ago, JE7 said:

 

To start off I asked a legitimate question, is Jim Parsons distancing himself from TBBT?

He has the Sheldon prequel and at least 3 other projects going with his production company, skipped the PCA's, didn't sit with the rest of the cast at the sag awards, has a political talk show on sirrus XM, he's branched out to plays and "prestigious" movies and like last time he ihas chosen to negotiate his TBBT contract as a lone wolf.

The question, has he "outgrown" TBBT?  Is he done and ready to move on while his popularity is high?

The argument can be made that recent and not so recent events can be interpreted that he may well have. The simple fact that many don't like the idea  doesn't change that

I'll go one further and put forward my opinion that Jim has had enough of playing Sheldon---not so much as "outgrown" the role. My opinion again: JP is the type of actor that needs to "change his skin" often. Such a long term in one role (I think) leaves him feeling  stifled.  The opportunities in plays and movies can prove to be more transient.  He also doesn't seem to be one who is majorly vested in "popularity" (for me, the only cast member of TBBT who really is, is Kaley-Johnny even less so than Jim).

I'm not sure what an "executive producer" does, but I imagine theirs is a more "overseeing" role that is not as involved with the day-to-day operation of a project. You often see high-caliber actors have this credit in films....All the foregoing is only my opinion....

[JE7]

The 3 other shows in the pipeline at least are being done by his production company so he may be more involved in the details than you might imagine.

[anicez]

3 hours ago, JE7 said:

To start off I asked a legitimate question, is Jim Parsons distancing himself from TBBT?

He has the Sheldon prequel and at least 3 other projects going with his production company, skipped the PCA's, didn't sit with the rest of the cast at the sag awards, has a political talk show on sirrus XM, he's branched out to plays and "prestigious" movies and like last time he ihas chosen to negotiate his TBBT contract as a lone wolf.

The question, has he "outgrown" TBBT?  Is he done and ready to move on while his popularity is high?

The argument can be made that recent and not so recent events can be interpreted that he may well have. The simple fact that many don't like the idea  doesn't change that

I think like many who have answered before me, I don´t see the bad intention to sit at another table, which by the way, was very very close, there are videos in which Jim and Mayim are sitting very close together talking, their chairs were just back one to each other. It was a unique opportunity for Jim and I think he did very well to take it, it´s not like if he stopped talking to the tbbt cast because he now sits at the table of the "cool people", this is not high school, they are adults with big careers and they have to do the best for them.

The part of Kaley was in my opion, fiction, very funny and you can see that they have a very good relationship. I´m sure, they talked about it weeks ago and Kaley just wanted to have fun of the situation with him.

In all the interviews I've seen, in all, Jim is clear and concise with that he wants to be Sheldon more time and wants to keep doing this serie.

This is simply my opinion, I don´t want to disturb anyone or offend, I did not want to talk about this issue because it seemed ridiculous to me, but I think it is more ridiculous to keep talking about it. 

[spidergirl]

1 hour ago, DoctorWhat said:

Are people honestly complaining about the tables?This wasn't some friend's party where you choose your company,it was an award show,that means business.I don't mean JP didn't choose his seat himself,because no one can really make you but honestly why wouldn't he sit where he sat?He wasn't dissing his friends,I doubt these people are friends tbh (they just seem to have a healthy friendly professional relationship),he left his colleagues of one project to sit with his new ones...how did this become personal all of a sudden?

Agree. It is beyond of my reason how the simple question of where an actor had a seat in an award ceremony can be seen as he doesnt care about his older project. Especially when Jim 's words about tbbt are always  the best and he doesnt give any hint he would not be aboard for more seasons if the show was renewed. All of this for where a chair was placed, which was placed kind of midle of the two tables . I wonder what would be said if Jim had sat in an opposite side of the room. 

[Jonny]

Of course an actor might decide they want out and I remember all the talk some months back about if one of them got some movie success they might want to pursue that instead. If they want out this is the perfect time for them to do so as their contracts will be up.

On the production side of it, iirc aren't some of those projects to do with Warner Brothers? Wouldn't be the first time that a company involved in movies or television has given one of their employees or stars some projects including production ones. I can think of several UK television actors who have production companies with their partners and have received projects from the same network they work for. Whether they are giving him projects because he has shown an interest in the production side of it and they think he can make them a success or if there is some behind the scenes 'we can offer him these projects to try and keep him still keen on doing the show' it doesn't matter to me as long as we get more seasons of this show. Maybe I am being selfish in thinking that lol.

All you can do right now is take the actor's words for it that they want to continue doing the show until they say otherwise or if the deal/no deal happens.

Edited January 31, 2017 by Jonny

[mirs1]

3 hours ago, JE7 said:

Man this justify Jim thing has legs, it's been going for almost 24 hours now lol

To start off I asked a legitimate question, is Jim Parsons distancing himself from TBBT?

He has the Sheldon prequel and at least 3 other projects going with his production company, skipped the PCA's, didn't sit with the rest of the cast at the sag awards, has a political talk show on sirrus XM, he's branched out to plays and "prestigious" movies and like last time he ihas chosen to negotiate his TBBT contract as a lone wolf.

The question, has he "outgrown" TBBT?  Is he done and ready to move on while his popularity is high?

The argument can be made that recent and not so recent events can be interpreted that he may well have. The simple fact that many don't like the idea and will demonize any who support it and dismiss the possibility out of hand doesn't change that

 Yours is indeed an interesting question; has Jim outgrown TBBT? In many ways, for me yes, he has, he spends his summers in doing other projects and he is very active with his production company, which to me indicates he wants to do something different from the show. Is he done and ready to move on? I think at this point it is not convenient for him to do so. In order to launch the spin-off (which I agree with many of you, most likely will be a flop), it's much better that the main show is on the air and possibly with Sheldon in it and frankly it's not so easy to give up another year or two with the kind of money he is doing right now (and that obviously holds true for everyone in the cast). Plus, Sheldon's character is the one which has changed the most during the seasons, so it can be still be challenging (even if not exciting as it was in S. 1) to play him.

[spidergirl]

45 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

That might have been the intention of your original post, but the discussion in the thread somehow implied there was something personal or ungrateful in choosing a table rather than the other, and many of us disagree on that. Yours is indeed an interesting question; has Jim outgrown TBBT? In many ways, for me yes, he has, he spends his summers in doing other projects and he is very active with his production company, which to me indicate he wants to do something different from the show. Is he done and ready to move on? I think at this point it is not convenient for him to do so. In order to launch the spin-off (which I agree with many of you, most likely will be a flop), it's much better that the main show is on the air and possibly with Sheldon in it and frankly it's not so easy to give up another year or two with the kind of money he is doing right now (and that obviously holds true for everyone in the cast). Plus, Sheldon's character is the one which has changed the most during the seasons, so it can be still be challenging (even if not exciting as it was in S. 1) to play him.

Agree. It is reasonable for Jim after being 10 years performing one character in a sitcom  he wants to try other projects and in some way to get a way to build his future what is concerned with his profession when his role in tbbt will be over. Many  actors after a memorable character in a tv show may not anchieve good opportunities for keep themselves in this business because they were too  much into the character they did. Imo it is well played as Jim is developing other projects that satisfy him as actor and producer as he works and shows he can be versatile for performing other roles, including films.

I think it is undeniable Jim 's joy and pride for his participation in tbbt but his life is more than that and it is good for him. Which it doesnt take any of his pride and joy for tbbt as he shares his time with other people who belong to his new projects. When he is with tbbt castmates he could not be more respectfull and friendly. 

Personally I wish Jim be lucky in this business after tbbt as much I wish to all other tbbt actors. We love the show but nothing is eternal and its is natural as the actors prepare themselves for move on one day. We must do that one day too and we would not become worse people because we will start to follow others shows by then. TBBT will be always especial for the tbbt cast and crew as it will be always special in our favourite tv shows list.

Edited January 31, 2017 by spidergirl
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[Carlilla]

I don't know why this is being discussed haha 

[April]

2 hours ago, mirs1 said:

That might have been the intention of your original post, but the discussion in the thread somehow implied there was something personal or ungrateful in choosing a table rather than the other, and many of us disagree on that. Yours is indeed an interesting question; has Jim outgrown TBBT? In many ways, for me yes, he has, he spends his summers in doing other projects and he is very active with his production company, which to me indicate he wants to do something different from the show. Is he done and ready to move on? I think at this point it is not convenient for him to do so. In order to launch the spin-off (which I agree with many of you, most likely will be a flop), it's much better that the main show is on the air and possibly with Sheldon in it and frankly it's not so easy to give up another year or two with the kind of money he is doing right now (and that obviously holds true for everyone in the cast). Plus, Sheldon's character is the one which has changed the most during the seasons, so it can be still be challenging (even if not exciting as it was in S. 1) to play him.

 

If the question is simply about Jim's future as an actor and the thesis is that he is preparing his career for the time when TBBT is over then the answer is simply: Yes, of course he is. And he should.

Let's be real, even with a renewal TBBT has maybe 1-3 -at most!- years in it. That is a very reasonable time frame to set up his production company with a healthy amount of industry contacts and projects, while at the same time adding a few more respected acting credits to his resume. With that sort of backup whenever TBBT will end Jim will be doing just fine.

And we actually see the same things from the rest of the cast as well - side projects, productions, even writing. They all think about their future in the business as they should. But I do not think that this means they'll all ditch TBBT like some ungrateful pricks or whatever. Taking them by their words they all seem to be willing and enthusiastic to continue for a little while longer. And again, it's only a few more years - in a job that they like doing and that pays well. I can easily believe they wouldn't mind the extra safety net TBBT is providing while they try to get their careers ready for the time after.

[No Regrets]

As long as Johnny and Kaley don't sit behind a kitchen island during the next taping, I couldn't care less about where they all do or do not sit. 

[kerrycec03]

Ok just have to comment.  You realize he was sat with Hidden Features because 1. probably not his choice...2. behind the scenes they knew the movie won....3. its a movie which sorta trumps TV.....4.  as seeing the BBT table was in a better position than last year BECAUSE of being seated next to Hidden Features.

 

In ALL interviews Jim has been very supportive of BBT continuing.  And the PCAs he didn't go because he was already in NY folks....

I think we need a new episode/new taping report bad because these theories are stretches.

I personally think Jim has sounded more publically supportive of continuing on more than the other parts of the big 3.  Johnny on Colbert wasn't all sunshine (to me at least) and Kaley made that dig about money on Kimmel. 

I think ALL are in money talks now....

[SRAM]

I think everything we have heard or seem from the top 3, this season, just supports that the show is on its deathbed and the chances of a season 11 are slim.  Jim and Johnny are both involved in other movie ventures and Kaley seems to more involved in her personal life (and her hobbies), they are all doing things that hint of them moving on from the show.  I think Jim's sitting at the other table is just another data point supporting the fact that TBBT is near its end.

[hokie3457]

I agree that TBBT is near its end, for many reasons, as SRAM says the other ventures for Jim and Johnny (I also stick to my feeling that Jim is tired of playing Sheldon and would like to stretch his acting muscles elsewhere). I would imagine Simon may get some increased attention after Florence Foster Jenkins.  Of course Kaley seems to be looking to make acting more of an occassional/part time pursuit and focus on her growing stable of horses.

Again on the other table thing.....I think Jim was directed or strongly prodded to sit with HF, as it seemed a surer candidate for a SAG win as well as being an extremely talked about motion picture.  Who knows, it could have been Jim himself who asked that TBBT table be next to that of HF.  To me that would be a very likely thing.  It is in keeping with the closeness of the cast we have seen throughout.....

[Chrismo]

28 minutes ago, kerrycec03 said:

Ok just have to comment.  You realize he was sat with Hidden Features because 1. probably not his choice...2. behind the scenes they knew the movie won....3. its a movie which sorta trumps TV.....4.  as seeing the BBT table was in a better position than last year BECAUSE of being seated next to Hidden Features.

 

In ALL interviews Jim has been very supportive of BBT continuing.  And the PCAs he didn't go because he was already in NY folks....

I think we need a new episode/new taping report bad because these theories are stretches.

I personally think Jim has sounded more publically supportive of continuing on more than the other parts of the big 3.  Johnny on Colbert wasn't all sunshine (to me at least) and Kaley made that dig about money on Kimmel.

JP is going to be supportive because he's the EP for Sheldon. The others at this point don't really need to kiss ass. His seating with Hidden Figures  is all conjecture. No facts. I'm not doubting he was in NY but  IMO he could of been at the PCA's. He watched the show in NY. He could of flown out after the show if he had wanted to.

[HeWolf]

I see a lot of conjecture here about JP and his desire to expand his acting beyond playing Sheldon. Just curious, but how many folks on the forum see JP as more than a supporting actor in movies? I enjoy his acting and have seen him in a variety of roles, but the only other thing I've seen him as the lead in was "Harvey", (another comedic role). I do believe that the 'evolution' of Sheldon has helped JP immeasurably in avoiding the dreaded typecasting dilemma. I have no problem seeing JP as the leading man in a TV show or in a play. I don't really buy into him as a major movie star. Don't see any of the other main cast in that light, either. 

[SRAM]

I felt he was type cast in HF and he is type cast in his Microsoft commercial, so until I see him in a lead doing a character that is not type cast, I will refrain from commenting on his acting abilities.

[hokie3457]

14 minutes ago, HeWolf said:

I see a lot of conjecture here about JP and his desire to expand his acting beyond playing Sheldon. Just curious, but how many folks on the forum see JP as more than a supporting actor in movies? I enjoy his acting and have seen him in a variety of roles, but the only other thing I've seen him as the lead in was "Harvey", (another comedic role). I do believe that the 'evolution' of Sheldon has helped JP immeasurably in avoiding the dreaded typecasting dilemma. I have no problem seeing JP as the leading man in a TV show or in a play. I don't really buy into him as a major movie star. Don't see any of the other main cast in that light, either. 

I think that JP just wants to be a "working actor".  I don't think he strives to be the lead.  If he did, I'm sure his managment team could find him something in which he would have "top billing".  I think due to his success in TBBT he can seek out projects that have meaning to him. Things like HF and even more so The Normal Heart.....

[No Regrets]

After 10 years I'm not gonna blame any of them if they wanna sink their teeth into other roles. 

[Chrismo]

31 minutes ago, HeWolf said:

I see a lot of conjecture here about JP and his desire to expand his acting beyond playing Sheldon. Just curious, but how many folks on the forum see JP as more than a supporting actor in movies? I enjoy his acting and have seen him in a variety of roles, but the only other thing I've seen him as the lead in was "Harvey", (another comedic role). I do believe that the 'evolution' of Sheldon has helped JP immeasurably in avoiding the dreaded typecasting dilemma. I have no problem seeing JP as the leading man in a TV show or in a play. I don't really buy into him as a major movie star. Don't see any of the other main cast in that light, either. 

I don't see him as any more than a supporting actor in movies. Normal Heart and Hidden Figures like roles are IMO as good as it gets for him. I though disagree about typecasting especially on television. He will be known for being Sheldon Cooper on tv for a very long time. I was trying to come up with someone comparable to him in the past and I thought of Alan Alda as Hawkeye Pierce in MASH. It ended in 83 and the only recurring role he had was on West Wing 20+years later. I could see maybe that happening. I could see him maybe in a leading role in plays since I think the audience for plays and tv are different. I agree with that none of the cast will be major movie stars but more likely to be seen on tv before JP will.

[Carlos]

1 hour ago, SRAM said:

I felt he was type cast in HF and he is type cast in his Microsoft commercial, so until I see him in a lead doing a character that is not type cast, I will refrain from commenting on his acting abilities.

I don't know if we could call it typecasting, but I have sort of a similar take than yours in not being too sure about Jim's acting abilities. I saw him in "The Normal Heart" and I saw him in "Hidden Figures" and the feeling I got was that I was seeing not Jim but Sheldon in both those roles. In other words, the way he portrayed those characters was such that it didn't make me forget about Sheldon. I saw a 4 minute commercial in You Tube of his play "An Act of God" and that seemed to be different enough, but it's too small a sample size to get any conclusion out of.

Conversely, I've seen both Simon and Johnny in roles that feel totally different from their BBT characters.

Edited January 31, 2017 by Carlos
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[serena_1995]

On 1/29/2017 at 11:48 PM, Carlos said:

Well to be fair, I mean really fair, I don't know if she actually puts more effort in staying attractive, she just is (more attractive I mean). 

 

No . i disagree. Penny clearly puts more effort than Leonard in her physical appearance. I think, Leonard has   gained weight and to me,he just looks flabby . And he said himself he no longer has to try anymore and he is not even willing to give up carbs or eat healthy.

Penny on the other hand, has been shown to work out and exercise. Leonard does not.  The guys also pointed this out to Leonard in an episode . Penny works hard to look the way she does, and I feel she is in great physical shape. She does not need to look in the mirror. 

Penny might be a slob when it comes to her apartment but she is definitely not a slob when it comes to her own physical appearance.  

Also while many complain that Penny should dress sexy for Leonard when she is at home, Leonard still wears the same hoodies he wore in season 1 , most of the time. So why can't Penny dress like a "tomboy" or  however she wants ?

Edited January 31, 2017 by serena_1995

[DoctorWhat]

I too doubted JP's acting abilities tbh,especially since he didn't impress me much in Normal Heart.But,since Sheldon has changed to be less robotic I've started to appreciate his acting.Acting is about convincing and when Sheldon gets emotional changes like being mad or upset or very serious (generally when he is not funny tbh) I am convinced!KC for example fails miserably to make me believe Penny's emotions are real and not something she just reads from the script,and JG IS not much better at it either BUT  he is funnier when Leonard does something comedic for me,so is SH (he is a true comedian I think!).What I'm saying is that comedy+being "flat" doesn't do JP any justice imo and he should seek other,more edgy roles (perhaps comedy+sarcasm?).I do believe there are actors who can give impressive performances without having a big emotional range but JP hasn't mastered this (I guess?).Needless to mention all this is how I personally see it as a viewer who has no experience with professional acting or whatsoever...

 

 

Also,I am really just procrastinating from studying optics...cause I hate it

Edited January 31, 2017 by DoctorWhat

[Chrismo]

11 minutes ago, serena_1995 said:

No . i disagree. Penny clearly puts more effort than Leonard in her physical appearance. I think, Leonard has   gained weight and to me,he just looks flabby . And he said himself he no longer has to try anymore and he is not even willing to give up carbs or eat healthy.

Penny on the other hand, has been shown to work out and exercise. Leonard does not.  The guys also pointed this out to Leonard in an episode . Penny works hard to look the way she does, and I feel she is in great physical shape. She does not need to look in the mirror. 

Penny might be a slob when it comes to her apartment but she is definitely not a slob when it comes to her own physical appearance.  

Also while many complain that Penny should dress sexy for Leonard when she is at home, Leonard still wears the same hoodies he wore in season 1 , most of the time. So why can't Penny dress like a "tomboy" or  however she wants ?

But women generally put more effort in their appearance. I don't think that's just a Penny/Leonard thing. I think Leonard looking flabby is more of a Johnny thing and Penny being fit is more of a Kaley thing. Leonard not trying anymore has been more of an isolated mention recently than anything. I think it's difficult for many to forget all the years that Penny has not put any effort in such as career and her relationship with Leonard. Her job even now is because of Bernadette. I think the posters remarks was to look in the mirror not about her appearance but what things in the past and present she hasn't put an effort in.