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I would love Emily back too. But she's dating Bruce Wayne :D. In minority I'm still Team Lucy. However I could imagine Lucy and Stuart getting together. Stuart shows up one episode with his new gf. And it's Lucy lol. I still stand by Raj deserves to be alone. 

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18 hours ago, mirs1 said:

Oh, thank you for that! I didn't remember the scene from the TR and I was a bit surprised by it. It makes sense that it can be used as either a new plot for Raj if they get more seasons or as a way to close the show if they don't. I've always thought that one of the way of closing the show could be a flash forward of several years to see how everyone is doing. 30 years seems a reasonable period of time (from a scientific point of view) to see how the guys' career turns out, and they would be old enough to win the Nobel prize at that point, not that there is a particular age for winning it, but, averagely speaking, winners are usually not in their primes. I would like Leonard (and not Sheldon, which would be too predictable) to win it, which is also more likely to happen, because Theoretical Physicists don't win Nobels very often.

As for Raj coming out (and eventually marrying Howard), not sure how I feel about it. At this point it seems pretty predictable. Something like: do you remember that guy that acted like a gay but said he was not gay? Well, it turns out he is actually gay...If there is a build up for that, which doesn't involve the cheap jokes that the writers have always used when referring to the subject, then fine, but if that happens out of the blue, or in a flash forward, I don't think I like it.

Well, based on what was spoken on the show I'd say that  both Raj and Howard would be bisexual if they went through with the marriage. Both have been know to desire women as well.

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On 03/02/2017 at 10:00 PM, 3ku11 said:

Tptb want the show syndicated for years. Lenny don't break up. It's all about money at this stage. That and J and K negotiate as a team. So Johnny won't be written out. I've seen the past three arguments for Lenny as just typical married life stuff. Albiet a bit premature on the tangent. But just a set up for more Sheldon Character development. I feel they are using Lenny as a prop. But that's jmo. 

Im not sure why we are even discussing Raj and his happiness. The guy deserves to be alone. Period.

When it comes down to it, we all have to earn a living. Only customers and profit make jobs. Writers, producers, investors, the whole caboodle will do what brings the money in. If tbbt will make money they'll make more episodes and they'll do what they think we'll pay for. They won't split up Lenny and they won't make anybody gay. Raj will do a Sheldon and realise that if he's to be successfully mated he has to change. Will they come up with a mate for him worth changing for ? That is the question.

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Really I thought you had to listen really hard :D.

In any case saw some new pics for next weeks episide. Obvioisiey can't post, not official source. But Penny looks really sexy in a black dress. Taking out Bernie dancing plot. Starting to think The Penny snarky/mean to Leonard projection. Could be due to lack of balance. I don't know maybe she just needs a little break. And let loose could help, blow some steam off. Rarely do that these days. Since she became the "housewife". Any case I'm hoping for some more group based episodes through out the season. Drop the relationships for a bit. 

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10 hours ago, Carlos said:

Well, based on what was spoken on the show I'd say that  both Raj and Howard would be bisexual if they went through with the marriage. Both have been know to desire women as well.

That is a jump. Howard said it jokingly (if in 30 years.....). Then they just were talking about if they were what they'd do. No deep secrets.

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I know I can't post the actual picture, but one of the promo pics for "The Locomotion Reverberation" reveals that the periodic table shower curtain is now in Amy/Sheldon's bathroom. It's funny to see how things were divided between both apartments. Additionally, Sheldon's Aqua-man figurine and Spock bobble-head are also noticeable on Shamy's living room shelf.

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23 minutes ago, Kev0821 said:

I know I can't post the actual picture, but one of the promo pics for "The Locomotion Reverberation" reveals that the periodic table shower curtain is now in Amy/Sheldon's bathroom. It's funny to see how things were divided between both apartments. Additionally, Sheldon's Aqua-man figurine and Spock bobble-head are also noticeable on Shamy's living room shelf.

Yep. We've been playing "spot the changes" for quite some time in the Shamy thread! :D

It's quite a long list by now of both Amy's and Sheldon's things finding their way into 4B. And there are also plenty of Penny's things popping up in 4A.

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On 01/02/2017 at 3:29 PM, HeWolf said:

 

Frankly, I feel the same could be said of Kaley. Fact is, I think it could have always been said of Kaley. She could have been replaced at any time and the show could have sailed on without any significant issues. Particularly in the early years, and especially after the Wheaton engineered break-up. 

Like it or not, (and I generally don't), TBBT is increasingly Shamy centered. All of the others have been rendered much less important than they once were and it would not necessarily kill the show if any of them left. And, for TBBT purists, the departure of Shamy might even offer the chance to return the show to something closer to its original premise. Unfortunately, the Shamy fans that also depart might toll the death knell from a ratings perspective.

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IMO you couldn't be more wrong about Kaley. She made the show all along. More than any other actor, it was her reactions that made the other actors' lines funny. But I'd be kind of relieved if she left the show now, as I wouldn't need to keep watching all that dreary Shamy stuff in the hope of a few minutes of Kaley. Let TBBT die as the Shamy Show. Sad, but better than what we're getting now.

As for the departure of Shamy, if you mean both of them then no. But get rid of Amy and keep Sheldon - definitely. IMO that would have improved or even saved the show at any time from when Sheldon stopped escaping from Amy's clutches every time. Not sure about the ratings in that case. Of course they'd lose all the Shamy/Amy fans the show has gathered over the years, but I don't know of any measure cof how many "old school" (or Old Lennynist) fans have been driven away by all the Amy screentime over the same period. Certainly a lot of names who used to comment on the first 3 seasons have vanished from this forum. And would dropping Amy now bring them back (over a longer timescale than losing the Shamys, of course)?

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9 hours ago, 3ku11 said:

Really I thought you had to listen really hard :D.

In any case saw some new pics for next weeks episide. Obvioisiey can't post, not official source. But Penny looks really sexy in a black dress. Taking out Bernie dancing plot. Starting to think The Penny snarky/mean to Leonard projection. Could be due to lack of balance. I don't know maybe she just needs a little break. And let loose could help, blow some steam off. Rarely do that these days. Since she became the "housewife". Any case I'm hoping for some more group based episodes through out the season. Drop the relationships for a bit. 

Think Penny just has to do figure things out as she said to Leonard in the spa scene. Believe marriage, her sales career (which she admitted she was unhappy with), being envious at Bernadette (hinted at) for the life she has: a good job, a baby and a house. Maybe these are the things she desires but possibly because of her committment issues she has to figure out a way to truly embrace it all.

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5 hours ago, JohnPhD said:

IMO you couldn't be more wrong about Kaley. She made the show all along. More than any other actor, it was her reactions that made the other actors' lines funny. But I'd be kind of relieved if she left the show now, as I wouldn't need to keep watching all that dreary Shamy stuff in the hope of a few minutes of Kaley. Let TBBT die as the Shamy Show. Sad, but better than what we're getting now.

As for the departure of Shamy, if you mean both of them then no. But get rid of Amy and keep Sheldon - definitely. IMO that would have improved or even saved the show at any time from when Sheldon stopped escaping from Amy's clutches every time. Not sure about the ratings in that case. Of course they'd lose all the Shamy/Amy fans the show has gathered over the years, but I don't know of any measure cof how many "old school" (or Old Lennynist) fans have been driven away by all the Amy screentime over the same period. Certainly a lot of names who used to comment on the first 3 seasons have vanished from this forum. And would dropping Amy now bring them back (over a longer timescale than losing the Shamys, of course)?

Not that I agree with your views on Amy completely. Silently yes lol. But I do agree on the notion. A lot of the segment of the segment of the audience have been tuned out the past four so seasons. But that is more to dragging out storylines. I think dragging out Lenny getting married, and Shamy sex. Beyond 6.24 was a big mistake. As it was like waiting for the Titanic to hit the iceberg. As for posters or fans tuning out because of Amy. I can't say for sure. I know a lot despised her character. Earlier in the series. So you could argue a lot stopped watching because of her. But their Maybe a lot like me who have either grown to tolerate her presence in the show. Or tbh like her character. Amy and Bernadette were a big part of Penny's character development. So you know they hold their purpose. From a original show stand point.

I can understand fans wanting Amy gone. Something clearly shifted when she was introduced. But it's been 6 years since she came onto the show. I couldent see Sheldon alone observing forever while his Friends are happy with their respective SO's. But that said maybe controversial. But I've never quite bought into Shamy. I get they were virgins, and were each other's first. But it lacks humility with me sometimes. Last episode was better Amy caring for Sheldon. But generally I just feel cold to them. That's not a criticism of how they are written. Or the actors, they do a fine job. I guess you could say I'm not a Shamy shipper :D.

Maybe that's how Shamys feel about Lenny. They don't dislike them. Just not invested enough. End of the day that ship sailed a long time ago. Shamy apart from feeling like a co parent relationship most of the time. I don't like how the show has skewed from Four Geniuis Physicists living on the backdrop of geek culture. Who happen to have romantic life's. And Lenny were always part of the premise, so that's different. To couples comedy. And 99% The Shamy show. You lose balance when you do that. Couples comedy is fine for other sitcoms. But TbbT was such a unique show. And I feel they have stripped away that uniqueness. But that's jmo. It's like they are trying to be something they are not. The Lenny tree sequence was the exception. But generally the fighting is not funny. Like it was with say Everybody Loves Raymond. 

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Well criticism for a while now. Fake or unorganic drama. Your right. Marrage does not change things. I mean even recently they proved with the Christmas tree sequence, they can write Lenny from a comedic stand point while arguing. I just think the writers selectively get lazy with it. Ahhh Lenny just give them a clichied argument this week. Yeah pick your game up Moloro. But but where does Sheldon fit in this scene.. 

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7 hours ago, vonmar said:

From TBBT You Tube Channel

You think at the end of the preview they could afford to get rid of an old group shot from two years old.

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5 hours ago, Itwasdestined said:

That's cos it wasn't funny. They deserve better than being just the drama component of the show. The Christmas Tree scenes were hilarious. The Proton funeral was funny. The paint sex scene was funny. Their season six scenes were funny. Season 3 scenes were funny. Even during the Season 4 breakup had some very funny scenes. Johnny and Kaley are great comedic talents. The writers can give them great funny scenes. The drama just isn't needed. Marriage clashes in real life can be funny. Mine are. It's not all drama. Come on Molaro, lift your game.


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It seems obvious by the writing of Leonard and Penny they are trying to get rid of Johnny and Kaley. Another could be Chuck and Steve conversation before the taping of last  Thursday's new episode:

Steve: We can't keep having Lenny fighting for stupid reasons. The Leonard in his tighty whiteys and  RA thing with Sheldon was a bit of a stretch but now them fighting over Penny's brother is a bit much.

Chuck: I was talking to our science staff and there this emotion  detector thing we can have Sheldon use. People will forget about the fight and like last week we will move on like nothing happened.

Steve: I don't know Chuck people may catch on.

Chuck: How about this. We'll deflect their attention with the Raj storyline. Maybe we can have Laura's Emily mention she thought Raj and Howard would hook up. Maybe we can shoot an extra scene suggesting maybe in the future they would be a couple.

Steve: I'm not sure Chuck. Emily met Bernadette when Howdette was already married. Even with that Johnny and Kaley are starting to be mad at me for making their characters look bad every week.

Chuck: Steve. You think the average fan remembers when Emily met Bernadette. Our audience isn't exactly rocket scientists.  In regards to Johnny and Kaley we are trying to diminish their storylines and make them look stupid so they will quit. We have been over this before. We can't afford to pay them. We gave JP that Executive Producer role in Sheldon so he will go along with anything. The other four just want to keep their jobs. Dont mess with me remember the Nickleodeon talk before.

Steve: Ssssssssssorry Mr. Lorre. Do you want me to take your suits to the dry cleaners?

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4 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

It seems obvious by the writing of Leonard and Penny they are trying to get rid of Johnny and Kaley. Another could be Chuck and Steve conversation before the taping of last  Thursday's new episode:

Steve: We can't keep having Lenny fighting for stupid reasons. The Leonard in his tighty whiteys and  RA thing with Sheldon was a bit of a stretch but now them fighting over Penny's brother is a bit much.

Chuck: I was talking to our science staff and there this emotion  detector thing we can have Sheldon use. People will forget about the fight and like last week we will move on like nothing happened.

Steve: I don't know Chuck people may catch on.

Chuck: How about this. We'll deflect their attention with the Raj storyline. Maybe we can have Laura's Emily mention she thought Raj and Howard would hook up. Maybe we can shoot an extra scene suggesting maybe in the future they would be a couple.

Steve: I'm not sure Chuck. Emily met Bernadette when Howdette was already married. Even with that Johnny and Kaley are starting to be mad at me for making their characters look bad every week.

Chuck: Steve. You think the average fan remembers when Emily met Bernadette. Our audience isn't exactly rocket scientists.  In regards to Johnny and Kaley we are trying to diminish their storylines and make them look stupid so they will quit. We have been over this before. We can't afford to pay them. We gave JP that Executive Producer role in Sheldon so he will go along with anything. The other four just want to keep their jobs. Dont mess with me remember the Nickleodeon talk before.

Steve: Ssssssssssorry Mr. Lorre. Do you want me to take your suits to the dry cleaners?

Johnny and Kaley want to stay on. So this may get awkward Haha. 

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4 hours ago, Chrismo said:

You think at the end of the preview they could afford to get rid of an old group shot from two years old.

I like the GSP returns. Guys plot is good. 

Eta: What annoyed me about last episode. Was the lazy lazy writing. This is just embarrassing. Penny: "How is this any different from you making me live with Sheldon?" What?! Huh. Leonard made you stay Penny? You sure about that? Are you senial? :sarcastichand:. It was just a year ago. Penny made Leonard stay with Sheldon. This is part of the shows problem. The writing sucks. They are luckey they have such a talented cast. Or they would be screwed. Geez the writers are like a blind man with alciemaz. I mean it's not bad continuity. Because that would suggest they attempt At continuity.

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2 hours ago, serenaded214 said:


Damn, Jim is looking good.

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Yeah I don't like he's too big for his shirts now. He's out Grown them. Doesent suit his character anymore. Can't be helped. But I'm not liking it.  God watched the new promo. God another oh look it's Sheldon doing his comical bit routine. Only thing good about it was Penny in that dress. And that promo at the end of the group shot. It's so old. Ellen DeGeneres is in it :sarcastichand:

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7 minutes ago, Jedichic98 said:

Amy looks good in her dress.

Just throwing it out there. 

She does. Dresses suit Amy better than separates. I still don't know why she and Bernadette wear cardigans so often despite California temperatures. Penny doesn't.

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Just now, joyceraye said:

She does. Dresses suit Amy better than separates. I still don't know why she and Bernadette wear cardigans so often despite California temperatures. Penny doesn't.

I've been waiting for an instance when Amy's worried she can't wear a cardigan (for any reason) and then someone casually mentions she doesn't have to wear layers. Only to be met with a silent "stop talking crazy" look. The person would try to expand on it "be-because we live in California...the jacket should be enough" but her withering look eventually shuts them up. 

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