[Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10

[Chrismo]

11 minutes ago, BigBang15 said:

Nice? You mean nauseating. They're adults, not little kids. Married couples don't (normally) do stuff like that. Now, psycho stalkers.....

 

Isn't Raj and Penny matching shirts nauseating too?

[hokie3457]

13 minutes ago, BigBang15 said:

Nice? You mean nauseating. They're adults, not little kids. Married couples don't (normally) do stuff like that. Now, psycho stalkers.....

 

Laughing pretty hard at this one!!!!  (and psycho stalkers "Qu'est-ce que c'est" a la The Talking Heads is going through my mind now!!!!)

[Swedish Chef]

2 hours ago, hokie3457 said:

Again, I think it is possible with a budget.  We are not sure if he bought the Saab used or the length of the possible car loan......

He must have been pretty desperate when he buys himself a Saab. 

[veejay]

35 minutes ago, hokie3457 said:

Laughing pretty hard at this one!!!!  (and psycho stalkers "Qu'est-ce que c'est" a la The Talking Heads is going through my mind now!!!!)

Stop Making Sense!

[Swedish Chef]

4 hours ago, April said:

In terms of consistency they handle some characters better than others.

Sheldon for instance started out needing a room mate to afford the rent but that was early S1 and the idea was still that the guys would be post grads or whatever with not that much money. Later on they went with the "Sheldon has piles of money/uncashed checks, doesn't really care about money and is generous towards his friends" angle - and they kept that over the years.

Bernadette went from being a doctorate who had to work at the cheesecake factory to being hired by a company that's paying her a ton of money. So she's doing fine and nothing has ever changed that.

We don't really know much about Amy's income but it seems like she doesn't really spend much money for herself and is also able to buy generous gifts - so it stands to reason she's doing fine with her finances

Then we have Leonard who for some reason doesn't seem as well off as Sheldon even though it would make sense. Does he make so much less than Sheldon?? Idgi. At some point they offered the explanation that he is still paying off student loans which is fair enough, I guess (and don't tell me Beverly would have paid for that - we all know her lol).

With Howard the situation is kinda weird cause you'd think a guy with his job would make a decent amount of money but then again he's also an irresponsible spender buying all sorts of over priced bullshit - so I guess the latter might be the bigger problem here. His woes about how he doesn't earn enough money are still weirdly out of place. I can buy him freaking out when he heard the (factually wrong, but still) number of needing $1million to raise a child in LA but by now he's had enough time for a fact check and going over his and Bernie's finances to see that it's not that terrible.

Similarly Raj is a big spender because he's Indian Richie Rich and never had to care about finances. I can easily buy that he went totally overboard with that but going to completely broke and a pile of debts immediately after his daddy stopped paying the bills is a pretty hard crash when he should be doing just fine with his income. Well, here's hope he gets his shit together!

Last but not least Penny: With her being a poor waitress/aspiring actress for the longest time I can believe that the accumulated quite a bit of debts over the years as we've seen her struggle with her finances plenty of times. Then she gets a job that pays her twice as much as Leonard (Hey, show, how much does he make again??) and has "a guy" and yet she still thinks those 6k savings he hid from her are a big deal she could do so much with? What!??? If we're going with what Leonard would realistically make at CalTech by now and double that she makes 6k in like two weeks. What does she need the 20 bucks from Leonard's grandma for???

I don't think you should worry too much about the finances in Tbbt to be honest, because it doesn't make any sense at all. 

[veejay]

38 minutes ago, Lagernisse said:

I don't think you should worry too much about the finances in Tbbt to be honest, because it doesn't make any sense at all. 

Well, I think April's description of the absurdity of the writers was pretty well.

[joyceraye]

5 hours ago, Jonny said:

I would like to know their financial status for sure, Amy for example is still a great mystery to me. Super frugal, or does her family actually have some wealth?

It's obvious we care about details like that lol this is a fansite we want to know everything about their lives and discuss everything lol. Most of the viewership I suspect aren't too bothered about continuity things like the financial status of characters, they just want a laugh after a hard days work for example.

When I'm watching anything I want to make sense of it, and that includes how people can afford what they have or do.  I read a fanfic once in which Amy's father was a military hero who had been killed in a war. This would fit the little we know about her family. If she had scholarships and pensions from the military she wouldn't have needed student loans. With no loans to pay back she'd be able to live decently on her pay once she was employed. She may have savings and would certainly have a good credit score. Her car is paid for. The generous gifts to Sheldon could be charged to credit cards and paid off quickly, perhaps. Maybe Alex told Amy how much money Sheldon had given her to buy a Valentine's gift thus making her generous in return - and her generosity does buy her  some peace.

[April]

39 minutes ago, Lagernisse said:

I don't think you should worry too much about the finances in Tbbt to be honest, because it doesn't make any sense at all. 

I'm not worried I just like to write lengthy posts. LOL

[Stephen Hawking]

Amy maybe comfortable, financially, but $3,000? 

[rachelshamyfan]

11 hours ago, hokie3457 said:

Wouldn't it be nice if Penny and Leonard got to look cute in matching shirts?

Of course but for whatever reason tptb are choosing to ignore any Lenny cuteness

[ajond]

1 hour ago, Stephen Hawking said:

Amy maybe comfortable, financially, but $3,000? 

and what about the $4000 Leonard spent on Sheldon.

[joyceraye]

9 minutes ago, ajond said:

and what about the $4000 Leonard spent on Sheldon.

It's worth it to them, to spare them Sheldon's behaviour when he's being difficult. Amy knows what he's like when he's trying to choose something. Heaven help her when they're househunting.

[Tensor]

16 minutes ago, ajond said:

and what about the $4000 Leonard spent on Sheldon.

And the car for Penny, and Penny's rent, and...on, and...on, and...on....

[3ku11]

Leonard's Rich ... Wait. Yeah this show with continuity and consistency.

Ill reserve judgement on the Penny Raj segment till it airs. Does seem tptb can't write Lenny these days without a third party involved. I mean Penny Raj is harmless and non threatening despite the hangups of some about it. A lot of it is just hashed out and unnecessary, and very very predictable. Which is the show these days predictable.

Edited March 17, 2017 by 3ku11

[spidergirl]

3 hours ago, April said:

I'm not worried I just like to write lengthy posts. LOL

And I think I can say here that your posts are always a gift to us as they are well written and very useful canon and fandom facts related. As another classic sitcom character would say:

They are lengendary!

[3ku11]

you know thinking about it reading the synopsis for next weeks episode. "Penny, Leonard, and Raj adjust to their new living arrangement". The showrunners are trolling Surley . Lenny and Raj living together. Given all the history their. Surely they would of been aware this would PO majority of the audience. It's like yeah we hear you, we don't care. 

Edited March 18, 2017 by 3ku11

[Chrismo]

8 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

you know thinking about it reading the synopsis for next weeks episode. "Penny, Leonard, Raj adjust to their new living arrangement". The showrunners are trolling Surley . Lenny and Raj living together. Given all the history their. Surely they would of been aware this would PO majority of the audience. It's like yeah we hear you, we don't care. 

The whole scenerio is just weird. It's like their running out of things to do with Raj. Penny willing to wear matching outfits with him. Really?  Even without considering their history what's the point of the living arrangement? I get they have run out of Howdette and Raj stories but this?

To me the three most screwed up storylines in regards to Raj's romantic  interests:

3. Claire- I understand she's very attractive. More than Emily? I don't know. Dreaming being married and having a baby with after meeting her for the first time?  Couldn't picture that. Certainly not anymore than picturing that with Emily.

2. Penny- I can see the actual act happening. They were both drunk. Nobody outside the group knew what exactly happened. Now Leonard seems okay with Raj living there not knowing what did or did not happen. I get some may say they weren't a couple back then but do you usually hook up with your friends ex girlfriend, they get back together and marry and then they decide you can live with them. I'm missing something here.

1.Bernadette- this ones the most screwed up to me. I get the idea of being attracted to your best friends girlfriend. It's a stretch but I can see himself thinking of having sex with her. But writing poetry about her performing a sex act and letting that information get out is so so wrong. Then after Howard finds out about the poem he doesn't get mad at Raj and questions Bernadette. Then Bernadette doesn't really get mad at Raj. I think at this point Howard wouldn't be friends with Raj or certainly wouldn't leave Raj alone with her.

i don't think Raj is the most likeable characters as it is. But what makes things worse IMO is there were no reprocussions in regards to what happened in regards to Penny and Bernadette.

[3ku11]

5 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

The whole scenerio is just weird. It's like their running out of things to do with Raj. Penny willing to wear matching outfits with him. Really?  Even without considering their history what's the point of the living arrangement? I get they have run out of Howdette and Raj stories but this?

To me the three most screwed up storylines in regards to Raj's romantic  interests:

3. Claire- I understand she's very attractive. More than Emily? I don't know. Dreaming being married and having a baby with after meeting her for the first time?  Couldn't picture that. Certainly not anymore than picturing that with Emily.

2. Penny- I can see the actual act happening. They were both drunk. Nobody outside the group knew what exactly happened. Now Leonard seems okay with Raj living there not knowing what did or did not happen. I get some may say they weren't a couple back then but do you usually hook up with your friends ex girlfriend, they get back together and marry and then they decide you can live with them. I'm missing something here.

1.Bernadette- this ones the most screwed up to me. I get the idea of being attracted to your best friends girlfriend. It's a stretch but I can see himself thinking of having sex with her. But writing poetry about her performing a sex act and letting that information get out is so so wrong. Then after Howard finds out about the poem he doesn't get mad at Raj and questions Bernadette. Then Bernadette doesn't really get mad at Raj. I think at this point Howard wouldn't be friends with Raj or certainly wouldn't leave Raj alone with her.

i don't think Raj is the most likeable characters as it is. But what makes things worse IMO is there were no reprocussions in regards to what happened in regards to Penny and Bernadette.

The fact. What really happened that night. The poem etc. Has not been fully disclosed. Raj seemed to get away with it. I'm sure if Leonard knew the full facts. He may not be so comfortable with the new LA. You know Raj bragging about bedding Penny. Even though he technically diddnt. Although I maintain an isolated incident. That occurred between them 7 years ago. When Leonard was in a relationship with someone else. Is irrelevant. It is still crossing boundaries severely. To have that said friend (Raj) live with the now said married couple. Despite no potential of anything detrimental occurring. The whole scenario is just plain odd. And the more and more I look at those pictures of Penny/Raj matching shirts. I just want to burn them lol.

[Carlos]

20 hours ago, rachelshamyfan said:

Some lovely pictures and Raj and Penny do look cute in matching shirts

To me they're vomit inducing, but to each their own.

19 hours ago, No Regrets said:

Wake me up when Leonard and Penny have a proper, nice storyline. Couldn't care less about Penny and yet another third person in her and Leonard's marriage. 

Do you plan to sleep for a very long time? Wait, wait.... damn it! The guy in the GIF didn't wait for me!

[BigBang15]

56 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

The fact. What really happened that night. The poem etc. Has not been fully disclosed. Raj seemed to get away with it. I'm sure if Leonard knew the full facts. He may not be so comfortable with the new LA. You know Raj bragging about bedding Penny. Even though he technically diddnt. Although I maintain an isolated incident. That occurred between them 7 years ago. When Leonard was in a relationship with someone else. Is irrelevant. It is still crossing boundaries severely. To have that said friend (Raj) live with the now said married couple. Despite no potential of anything detrimental occurring. The whole scenario is just plain odd. And the more and more I look at those pictures of Penny/Raj matching shirts. I just want to burn them lol.

If Leonard knew the "full facts" why would he be more uncomfortable than what he thinks now. As far as the group goes/knows , Raj and Penny had sex. But they didn't.

What boundaries is it crossing? Yours (et al)? Obviously not theirs because the characters are written as 21st century "millennials" (or close to). While the guys are a little more old fashioned, Penny is not. Leonard knows this, understands it and (tries to) accept(s) it. It may bother him, but he keeps that to himself. Who knows, maybe the writers will have the repressed feeling come out to end the new arrangement.

[Tensor]

14 minutes ago, BigBang15 said:

 As far as the group goes/knows , Raj and Penny had sex. But they didn't.

Actually, Leonard, Sheldon, Raj, and Howard were in the room when Penny said everyone knows they didn't sleep together, they got drunk and fooled around a little (and I'm sure Bernadette knew soon after).  So, no, the group knows they didn't have sex, but the full story may only be know to Penny, Raj, and possibly Leonard and Amy, and Emily, depending on exactly what Raj told her.  

[Chrismo]

1 hour ago, Tensor said:

Actually, Leonard, Sheldon, Raj, and Howard were in the room when Penny said everyone knows they didn't sleep together, they got drunk and fooled around a little (and I'm sure Bernadette knew soon after).  So, no, the group knows they didn't have sex, but the full story may only be know to Penny, Raj, and possibly Leonard and Amy, and Emily, depending on exactly what Raj told her.  

I stand corrected. 8.4 The Hook up reverberation

[April]

8 hours ago, spidergirl said:

And I think I can say here that your posts are always a gift to us as they are well written and very useful canon and fandom facts related. As another classic sitcom character would say:

They are lengendary!

[Jonny]

8 hours ago, 3ku11 said:

you know thinking about it reading the synopsis for next weeks episode. "Penny, Leonard, and Raj adjust to their new living arrangement". The showrunners are trolling Surley . Lenny and Raj living together. Given all the history their. Surely they would of been aware this would PO majority of the audience. It's like yeah we hear you, we don't care. 

I think they have moved on from that, nothing to suggest the characters haven't. Has Leonard said anything about being uncomfortable Raj was living there? He seemed to move on fairly quickly from it if i recall, perhaps he realizes they weren't an item at the time so people can do whatever they want and he as always struck me as a person that has a large capacity for forgiveness in regards to his friends who he loves anyway.

Go with the dialogue and the actual actions of the characters, unless Leonard says something to the contrary I think you have to assume he is over it.

[3ku11]

5 minutes ago, Jonny said:

I think they have moved on from that, nothing to suggest the characters haven't. Has Leonard said anything about being uncomfortable Raj was living there? He seemed to move on fairly quickly from it if i recall, perhaps he realizes they weren't an item at the time so people can do whatever they want and he as always struck me as a person that has a large capacity for forgiveness in regards to his friends who he loves anyway.

Go with the dialogue and the actual actions of the characters, unless Leonard says something to the contrary I think you have to assume he is over it.

I'm not doubting Leonard has moved on from it. Nor his capacity for forgiveness. I was just pointing out the last time Raj moved in 4A. And considering the history their. What are the Tptb intentions with having them all live together? And not to mention the continual third party in Lennys marrage. Just seems all unnecessary. And A) They've run out of ideas for Raj. And B: Same for Lenny. But extensively Lenny seem scared to be alone. Considering how many third parties they even pursue to have in their life's. It's like they are avoiding the elephant in the room.

Edited March 18, 2017 by 3ku11