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1 hour ago, Nogravitasatall said:

But seriously (Frazier, After M*A*S*H etc) Why not? Mind you, it might be set on Mars, rather than at Princeton. 

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19 hours ago, wowbagger said:

You know I broadly agree with you about the writing, but here I might differ. I would hope that sex IS a selfish act: as in, one you engage in to receive as well as to give pleasure. My issue with the way coitus was framed was precisely that it seemed as though Sheldon might NOT have acted selfishly i.e. Sheldon said that he was giving Amy the 'gift of his genitals', and in subsequent episodes the show has gone out of its way to create opportunities where Sheldon could make, or respond favourably to, an expression of desire...and every time it has gone with the 'oblivious' route or the 'Bazinga!' route. All this while also going out of its way to clarify that Amy enjoyed the sex.

I think it might have not expressed myself 100% clearly. From reading your post, I think we think more or less alike. What I meant by Sheldon being selfish would be that he would only "give" Amy sex on his terms, not caring about her desires. I honestly don't know why the show shows coitus and then goes out of its way to make Sheldon oblivious , and as you say, all the while showing Amy really liked it. Even Sheldon said he enjoyed it more than he thought he would have.

18 hours ago, Judith said:

Don't bother.

Meaning?

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10 hours ago, veejay said:

Sorry if I interrupted this debate. I like to put this little cutting promo in here 'cause  I’m really, really, really excited about the taping tonight...

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I have not seen anything like that yet.

Very curious what will be on screen for the opener.

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Just now, veejay said:

Breaking NEWS!!!!!

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"Wonderful show. Beautiful wedding redo (Yay for Lennies!!!!). Very funny, cute Shamy! Lots to the show. I'll be driving so I'll get back in a while."

(taken from chatroom. Thanks @heres2U!)

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This is more than I expected. Super thrilled.

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26 minutes ago, veejay said:

Breaking NEWS!!!!!

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"Wonderful show. Beautiful wedding redo (Yay for Lennies!!!!). Very funny, cute Shamy! Lots to the show. I'll be driving so I'll get back in a while."

(taken from chatroom. Thanks @heres2U!)

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Yay for Lennies and Shamies!!! So great that both shipping groups have a reason to be happy! :icon_razz:

Let's celebrate! :icon_cheesygrin:

Cheers! :drinks:

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51 minutes ago, veejay said:

Breaking NEWS!!!!!

"Wonderful show. Beautiful wedding redo (Yay for Lennies!!!!). Very funny, cute Shamy! Lots to the show. I'll be driving so I'll get back in a while."

(taken from chatroom. Thanks @heres2U!)

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DISCLAIMER:   I did not take notes - just sat back and enjoyed the show with my daughter.  I'm sure I have forgotten scenes, the order will be all wrong, and I will mess up the dialogue!   Sorry, I have a terrible memory.  But I will give you guys a summary as best as I can remember.......

There seemed to be a LOT of scenes, so will be interesting to see what makes the cut.  As we knew, there were a LOT of guest stars, including Stuart!!!  

THE CONJUGAL CONJECTURE

I'll do the main story first:

First scene:  Penny and Leonard are sleeping in bed.  Sheldon is in his bed and calls through the wall.  "Leonard, you and I could be brothers."  Leonard tells him that is ridiculous, and they are not brothers or step- brothers.  Sheldon says "Good because a grown man living with his brother and his wife would be kind of weird."  Penny said "And he thinks he's a grown man!" Then Sheldon asks,"Is your father doing despicable things to my mother right now?"  Penny says something like "Everything old people do after 9:30 is despicable.  Go to sleep."  Then Leonard apologizes to her, and says that the parents may be ruining the ceremony tomorrow.  The two have a sweet moment, and Sheldon tells them to stop talking so he can sleep.  

Next scene, Leonard, Penny and Sheldon are in boys' apartment.  She is leaving to pick her family up at the airport.  She stands at the door and says not to act weird when Beverly gets there, and don't say anything about Mary and Alfred hooking up.  While she is talking, Beverly walks up behind her, hears everything and enters the apartment.  In a shaky voice, Beverly says that she doesn't want to go to the ceremony because Al is humiliating her ( I actually got a little choked up!).  They tell her that if she leaves, it plays into Alfred treating her so badly.  She agrees to stay. Then Penny picks up her family at the airport and there is a funny scene in the car with all of them.  Penny's mother is very worried about what Leonard's parents will think of them.  

Another scene, Mary and Alfred arrive at the boy's apartment.  Sheldon and Leonard are both there.  After greetings, there is uncomfortable silence.  Then Sheldon says to Al "So, did you defile my mother?"  Everyone is shocked, esp. Mary.  She tells Sheldon he is very rude.  Al says "I can assure you we only had drinks and pleasant conversation."  So another pause and Sheldon asks "So did anyone say 'your genitals are a sight to behold?"  Al is shocked and said,"That was absolutely not said, and NO ONE would ever say something like that!"  And Leonard says, "You don't know his girlfriend very well, do you?"    Sheldon said something like, "Well my genitals are a sight to behold!"

Meanwhile, Penny's family has arrived at her apartment.  Her father and brother are very funny with drug and drinking jokes.  Her mother is very worried that Leonard's family will find out brother was in jail.  Also, that his family will think they are trashy.  Penny is very cute with her family!

Now back at the boy's apartment, Beverly has joined the group.  She and Al are rude to each other.  Mary and Al say they are planning to continue their relationship.  Cute bit where Leonard wants to go to Penny's apartment, Al wants to join him.  So Sheldon goes to the white board to figure out who can be with whom at the same time without fighting.  In the middle of this mess, Amy bursts through the door wearing her bridesmaids dress and says, "Who's ready for a wedding!"

Leonard and his mom go next door to meet Penny's family.  He has apparently met her mom and dad before, but not her brother.  It's a cute, quick scene, and you can tell Beverly is dying around them (esp after the brother talks about his court appearances).  Back to the boy's apt:  It's Sheldon and Amy, Mary and Al.  Sheldon lets his mother know he is not happy about her actions.  She says that she is upset that Sheldon would think that she would sleep with a man she just met.  Sheldon says you take a relationship slowly, like he and Amy.  (He is standing, and Amy is sitting at her usual spot on the sofa).  He looks at her and says it was 2 years before they ever held hands.  Al has moved to sit next to Amy, and he reaches for her hand. He says, "You are a very patient young woman."  Sheldon growls and says, Take a cold shower Grampa.  She's Mine!!!"  (I loved that !)

There is a pretaped scene of the actual ceremony.  They are outside at a park.  It is lovely.  Amy is playing the harp.  Bernie is up front to officiate.  Everyone is seated.  Stuart walks in and sits in the empty seat between Leonards parents.  Penny has on a gorgeous wedding dress that comes to her knees, simple but really beautiful.  You guys will love it!  Yes, they actually say some beautiful words to each other.  Bernie fusses at everyone to be quiet.  So lovely.  Then after their vows, Al says to everyone and Beverly that the best thing they did as a couple was to have Leonard.  And Beverly agrees!!!!!  So sweet. Again I got teary!  

In the back row, Mary is sitting between Sheldon and Amy.  Sheldon stands up and says something like it is time for him to say something to a person who is really special to him.  Amy starts to stand up and says "OMG it's really happening!"  Mary grabs her arm and tries to hold her back.  And of course, Sheldon was talking about Leonard :(  He walks to the front and tells Leonard how much he loves him, and then Penny.  Then the three of them embrace as Bernie says "I now pronounce you husband and wife, and other husband?"  She may have said Weird husband. ( Yuk, sorry)

Car scene where Penny is driving her family to the airport.  Cute and sweet.  Then Amy is driving Mary to airport with Sheldon in the back seat.  He says something to his  mother about senior citizen STDs on the rise.  She yells "Stop being disrespectful to me!"  And he apologizes.  Then Amy says something about Mary being attractive and Sheldon needs to get used to her dating men.  Sheldon says something rude to Amy.  Amy says "Stop being disrespectful to me" in a nice voice.  Sheldon says "You're not my mother."  Mary yells "Don't be disrespectful to her."  He says he's sorry.  Mary turns to Amy and says "Don't worry dear, you'll get it eventually (implying that Amy will eventually learn how to get Sheldon to respond like that).

Other story was all at Howard's house.  The military guy shows up at their front door, and Raj answers the door.  The guy is looking for Howard, and Raj pretends he is not there.  Very cute.  Later Howard calls and agrees to meet the guy.  Very small bit of the entire episode, but I guess this is leading into the next two weeks. No baby bump on Bernie, as this is the day of the wedding redo.

OK that's about it.  Feel free to ask questions.  I'm going to bed soon.  Couple of things - Penny and Leonard were very sweet together.  Showed so much love towards each other in all their scenes.  They are in a great place.  Little bit of Shamy, but loved jealous Sheldon.  They are in a great place also.  Amy looked so pretty in her purple dress.  I will tell you about that in another post.  Mary and Amy seemed to really love each other. 

 

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5 minutes ago, heres2U said:

DISCLAIMER:   I did not take notes - just sat back and enjoyed the show with my daughter.  I'm sure I have forgotten scenes, the order will be all wrong, and I will mess up the dialogue!   Sorry, I have a terrible memory.  But I will give you guys a summary as best as I can remember.......

There seemed to be a LOT of scenes, so will be interesting to see what makes the cut.  As we knew, there were a LOT of guest stars, including Stuart!!!  

THE CONJUGAL CONJECTURE

I'll do the main story first:

First scene:  Penny and Leonard are sleeping in bed.  Sheldon is in his bed and calls through the wall.  "Leonard, you and I could be brothers."  Leonard tells him that is ridiculous, and they are not brothers or step- brothers.  Then Sheldon asks,"Is your father doing despicable things to my mother right now?"  Penny says something like "Everything old people do after 9:30 is despicable.  Go to sleep."  Then Leonard apologizes to her, and says that the parents may be ruining the ceremony tomorrow.  The two have a sweet moment, and Sheldon tells them to stop talking so he can sleep.  

Next scene, Leonard, Penny and Sheldon are in boys' apartment.  She is leaving to pick her family up at the airport.  She stands at the door and says not to act weird when Beverly gets there, and don't say anything about Mary and Alfred hooking up.  While she is talking, Beverly walks up behind her, hears everything and enters the apartment.  In a shaky voice, Beverly says that she doesn't want to go to the ceremony because Al is humiliating her ( I actually got a little choked up!).  They tell her that if she leaves, it plays into Alfred treating her so badly.  She agrees to stay. Then Penny picks up her family at the airport and there is a funny scene in the car with all of them.  Penny's mother is very worried about what Leonard's parents will think of them.  

Another scene, Mary and Alfred arrive at the boy's apartment.  Sheldon and Leonard are both there.  After greetings, there is uncomfortable silence.  Then Sheldon says to Al "So, did you defile my mother?"  Everyone is shocked, esp. Mary.  She tells Sheldon he is very rude.  Al says "I can assure you we only had drinks and pleasant conversation."  So another pause and Sheldon asks "So did anyone say 'your genitals are a sight to behold?"  Al is shocked and said,"That was absolutely not said, and NO ONE would ever say something like that!"  And Leonard says, "You don't know his girlfriend very well, do you?"    Sheldon said something like, "Well my genitals are a sight to behold!"

Meanwhile, Penny's family has arrived at her apartment.  Her father and brother are very funny with drug and drinking jokes.  Her mother is very worried that Leonard's family will find out brother was in jail.  Also, that his family will think they are trashy.  Penny is very cute with her family!

Now back at the boy's apartment, Beverly has joined the group.  She and Al are rude to each other.  Mary and Al say they are planning to continue their relationship.  Cute bit where Leonard wants to go to Penny's apartment, Al wants to join him.  So Sheldon goes to the white board to figure out who can be with whom at the same time without fighting.  In the middle of this mess, Amy bursts through the door wearing her bridesmaids dress and says, "Who's ready for a wedding!"

Leonard and his mom go next door to meet Penny's family.  He has apparently met her mom and dad before, but not her brother.  It's a cute, quick scene, and you can tell Beverly is dying around them (esp after the brother talks about his court appearances).  Back to the boy's apt:  It's Sheldon and Amy, Mary and Al.  Sheldon lets his mother know he is not happy about her actions.  She says that she is upset that Sheldon would think that she would sleep with a man she just met.  Sheldon says you take a relationship slowly, like he and Amy.  (He is standing, and Amy is sitting at her usual spot on the sofa).  He looks at her and says it was 2 years before they ever held hands.  Al has moved to sit next to Amy, and he reaches for her hand. He says, "You are a very patient young woman."  Sheldon growls and says, Take a cold shower Grampa.  She's Mine!!!"  (I loved that !)

There is a pretaped scene of the actual ceremony.  They are outside at a park.  It is lovely.  Amy is playing the harp.  Bernie is up front to officiate.  Everyone is seated.  Stuart walks in and sits in the empty seat between Leonards parents.  Penny has on a gorgeous wedding dress that comes to her knees, simple but really beautiful.  You guys will love it!  Yes, they actually say some beautiful words to each other.  Bernie fusses at everyone to be quiet.  So lovely.  Then after their vows, Al says to everyone and Beverly that the best thing they did as a couple was to have Leonard.  And Beverly agrees!!!!!  So sweet. Again I got teary!  

In the back row, Mary is sitting between Sheldon and Amy.  Sheldon stands up and says something like it is time for him to say something to a person who is really special to him.  Amy starts to stand up and says "OMG it's really happening!"  Mary grabs her arm and tries to hold her back.  And of course, Sheldon was talking about Leonard :(  He walks to the front and tells Leonard how much he loves him, and then Penny.  Then the three of them embrace as Bernie says "I now pronounce you husband and wife, and other husband?"  She may have said Weird husband. ( Yuk, sorry)

Car scene where Penny is driving her family to the airport.  Cute and sweet.  Then Amy is driving Mary to airport with Sheldon in the back seat.  He says something to his  mother about senior citizen STDs on the rise.  She yells "Stop being disrespectful to me!"  And he apologizes.  Then Amy says something about Mary being attractive and Sheldon needs to get used to her dating men.  Sheldon says something rude to Amy.  Amy says "Stop being disrespectful to me" in a nice voice.  Sheldon says "You're not my mother."  Mary yells "Don't be disrespectful to her."  He says he's sorry.  Mary turns to Amy and says "Don't worry dear, you'll get it eventually (implying that Amy will eventually learn how to get Sheldon to respond like that).

Other story was all at Howard's house.  The military guy shows up at their front door, and Raj answers the door.  The guy is looking for Howard, and Raj pretends he is not there.  Very cute.  Later Howard calls and agrees to meet the guy.  Very small bit of the entire episode, but I guess this is leading into the next two weeks. No baby bump on Bernie, as this is the day of the wedding redo.

OK that's about it.  Feel free to ask questions.  I'm going to bed soon.  Couple of things - Penny and Leonard were very sweet together.  Showed so much love towards each other in all their scenes.  They are in a great place.  Little bit of Shamy, but loved jealous Sheldon.  They are in a great place also.  Amy looked so pretty in her purple dress.  I will tell you about that in another post.  Mary and Amy seemed to really love each other. 

 

Cheers. A couple things jumped out. Typical Sheldon has to steal the spotlight hahaha. I am sure that well translate differently. Kinda cute three of them embraced. But are TPTB suggesting you think in your opinion, they won't be breaking the L/P/S dynamic any time soon? And Also Sheldon's comment to Amy your not my Mother! Hmm not sure about that. 

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