[Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10

[Chrismo]

14 hours ago, serena_1995 said:

 

No , Amy drugging Sheldon without his consent is not ok. Not even in comedic sense. It doesnt matter if it is frequent or just one time. Just my opinion. 

Would you be okay if Leonard drugged Penny, knocking her unconscious for hours and then later treated it as light hearted goofy fun, while Penny looked confused ?

The scene was not shown on the screen. How was Sheldon leading up to the drugging? As seen in the past he can be a pain in the ass. Again since Sheldon knows what happened did he press charges? No. IMO he knows how he is.

As to bringing Penny and Leonard in to the scenerio JMO makes no sense. Penny has never behaved in a way that drugging would ever be needed.

[spidergirl]

9 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

The scene was not shown on the screen. How was Sheldon leading up to the drugging? As seen in the past he can be a pain in the ass. Again since Sheldon knows what happened did he press charges? No. IMO he knows how he is.

As to bringing Penny and Leonard in to the scenerio JMO makes no sense. Penny has never behaved in a way that drugging would ever be needed.

Imo nobody need to be drugged for any reason. What is needed is try to handle with the issue. Drugging someone seems so irrational as the person who supposed  need to be drugged for doing something. Just my opinion.

Edited March 23, 2017 by spidergirl

[Nogravitasatall]

11 hours ago, joyceraye said:

'You're an even better husband.'

'Just when I thought you couldn't get any hotter.'

The above lines from the first five minutes of the latest episode suggest to me they're still besotted enough,considering they've been together for five or six years.

Well, we are still at 10.10 in Oz so I don't know about that. But as long as they lead with Sheldon and Amy I'm not that interested anyway. They have, to my mind, left the L/P pot off the stove for too long. That's me of course. Others have different views and that's fine... if you like what they serve now then that's ok. I suppose I miss that old L/P thrill, but I have moved on. Like the show, really. They could show Leonard gleefully chasing his wife around that damn kitchen island, but that's not what they want. It works for them as is, so *shrug*.

Nog out. Peace.

PS. Forget about the five or six years as being a threshold. I have it on good authority that even after 29 years, chasing around the kitchen island is a real thing.  

Edited March 23, 2017 by Nogravitasatall
Fact checking

[kimbee73]

22 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

The scene was not shown on the screen. How was Sheldon leading up to the drugging? As seen in the past he can be a pain in the ass. Again since Sheldon knows what happened did he press charges? No. IMO he knows how he is.

As to bringing Penny and Leonard in to the scenerio JMO makes no sense. Penny has never behaved in a way that drugging would ever be needed.

Here is the thing though we have only seen him on a plane once and while he was a pain because he was being an ass to Howard, I didn't see any indications that he needed to be drugged for any other reason. They were both afraid of the turbulence.And you are right we have no idea how he was up to the point Amy gave him the funny tasting juice. But we also have never heard anything that said he hated to fly. I think I have only read that in fanfiction. Do we know he loves trains more? Yes as indicated in the one when they went to San Francisco. I don't think that was because he hates flying but more because he would have rather taken the train.

We have seen him traveling in a car and again while being a general ass, I have never really seen any indication that he needs drugs in order to travel, except if they just want him sleeping, which is obviously the case.

I agree that Leonard or Penny drugging the other would make no sense whatsoever.

[No Regrets]

54 minutes ago, snapepans said:

IMO, I think people saying Leonard and Penny don't have anything in common, part of the reason is because the writers failed to write Leonard and Penny individually. 

I often compare Penny with Rachel from Friends. I know, not the same, but to me, they still have some similarities.

In ten years, we watched Rachel becoming a professional woman gradually. Similar to Penny, she also was a terrible waitress with a big dream - Fashion, but she wasn't just dreaming, she acted on it. We watched her quitting the Coffee shop job, we watched her going to interviews, we watched her starting to work at Bloomingdales, we watched her fighting for the promotion, we watched her job-hopping to Ralph Lauren, and in the end, we watched her turning down the Paris job. This was a process step by step. 

And, Let's take a look at Penny. We knew she was a waitress at the Cheesecake Factory, and like Friends, the gang also constantly went to CF to eat, but unlike Rachel, we rarely got to see Penny's life at CF, except for Bernadette, we knew NO ONE from her job. The Cheesecake Factory was just a set for the four guys and Penny to interact, not about Penny herself. And, we knew Penny went to community college, but except for Sheldon's mocking line: "Not knowing is the part of the fun? Was that the motto of your community college?", the essay episode, the oral presentation episode, The Disappointing Child by Beverly episode, nothing more. Till this day, we still don't konw how Penny is doing in the college.

Since 801, Penny got a new sales rep job, but we either got side descriptions or nothing at all. Off the top of my head, I can think of some episodes regarding to Penny's job:

1. Penny's interview with her Boss Dan. We knew she is a "people person".

2. Penny was studying with Bernie about her new job. But it was just a short scene.

3. Penny was practising her sales skills with Emily, but sadly, the topic changed before we learn something interesting about her job.  

4. The lonely doctor misunderstood Penny and wanted to court her, but aside from that, still not about Penny's job itself.

5. Penny and Bernie went to their company's party, but I think this episode was more about Bernie.

6. Penny went to see Dr. Gallo, but sadly, just after a few lines, the topic changed, again. 

I want to see her "people person" side at work, not heard of that.

TBH, I'm shocked about we got so few Penny's individual story plots, and here I thought "Penny is one of the BIG THREE, Penny is one of the Original Five, and Penny is the Leading Female Character. "

How foolish of me.

Excellent post and this is one of the issues I have with TBBT. The characters aren't as fleshed out as they should be, which is a shame after 10 seasons.

[April]

37 minutes ago, kimbee73 said:

Here is the thing though we have only seen him on a plane once and while he was a pain because he was being an ass to Howard, I didn't see any indications that he needed to be drugged for any other reason. They were both afraid of the turbulence.And you are right we have no idea how he was up to the point Amy gave him the funny tasting juice. But we also have never heard anything that said he hated to fly. I think I have only read that in fanfiction. Do we know he loves trains more? Yes as indicated in the one when they went to San Francisco. I don't think that was because he hates flying but more because he would have rather taken the train.

We have seen him traveling in a car and again while being a general ass, I have never really seen any indication that he needs drugs in order to travel, except if they just want him sleeping, which is obviously the case.

I still can't help but wonder if that was supposed to be a joke about those neuro sleep drinks (or whatever they're called) and Sheldon not being able to handle the sleep enhancing ingredients (much like alcohol or caffeine has an enhanced effect on him) that got lost in between a few rewrites and came out with unfortunate implications at the other end. It was just so weird...

[Strawberry PopTart Fan]

1 hour ago, Nogravitasatall said:

Well, we are still at 10.10 in Oz so I don't know about that. But as long as they lead with Sheldon and Amy I'm not that interested anyway. They have, to my mind, left the L/P pot off the stove for too long. That's me of course. Others have different views and that's fine... if you like what they serve now then that's ok. I suppose I miss that old L/P thrill, but I have moved on. Like the show, really. They could show Leonard gleefully chasing his wife around that damn kitchen island, but that's not what they want. It works for them as is, so *shrug*.

Nog out. Peace.

PS. Forget about the five or six years as being a threshold. I have it on good authority that even after 29 years, chasing around the kitchen island is a real thing.  

Let's put this island to much better use!

[hokie3457]

2 hours ago, April said:

I was recently zapping through the channels and caught a repeat of an episode where BA had enough of that and was ripping the others a new one! Now THAT was hilarious! lol

Great....now "The A Team" theme song is going to be in my head for the rest of the day!!!!   

[Capt. Hilts]

I miss watching them eat at the Cheesecake Factory.

I miss Sheldon and Penny's conversations in the laundry room.

I miss seeing them playing computer games.

[HeWolf]

1 hour ago, hokie3457 said:

Great....now "The A Team" theme song is going to be in my head for the rest of the day!!!!   

'Howling Mad' Murdock. Classic TV character.

20 minutes ago, Capt. Hilts said:

I miss watching them eat at the Cheesecake Factory.

I miss Sheldon and Penny's conversations in the laundry room.

I miss seeing them playing computer games.

Agreed on all of those. 

The Cheesecake Factory provided some classic scenes.

Thinking about Sheldon and the laundry room raises questions concerning Shamy and how they manage their laundry. Would Sheldon entrust his laundry to Amy? Do they do their laundry individually, but at the same time? 

 

[Capt. Hilts]

8 minutes ago, HeWolf said:

Would Sheldon entrust his laundry to Amy?  

 

No way!

[Tensor]

42 minutes ago, HeWolf said:

Thinking about Sheldon and the laundry room raises questions concerning Shamy and how they manage their laundry. Would Sheldon entrust his laundry to Amy? Do they do their laundry individually, but at the same time? 

 

As long as they do it on Saturday, it should be fine. 

[SRAM]

3 hours ago, Nogravitasatall said:

Well, we are still at 10.10 in Oz so I don't know about that. But as long as they lead with Sheldon and Amy I'm not that interested anyway. They have, to my mind, left the L/P pot off the stove for too long. That's me of course. Others have different views and that's fine... if you like what they serve now then that's ok. I suppose I miss that old L/P thrill, but I have moved on. Like the show, really. They could show Leonard gleefully chasing his wife around that damn kitchen island, but that's not what they want. It works for them as is, so *shrug*.

Nog out. Peace.

PS. Forget about the five or six years as being a threshold. I have it on good authority that even after 29 years, chasing around the kitchen island is a real thing.  

That would be funny, them chasing each other around the kitchen island laughing.  The could jump the scene to the bedroom and show Leonard taking deep breaths from his inhaler while Penny tells him "I told you to be careful in what you wish for" while she rubs his back.

[April]

BTS from Mayim:

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@Tripper Do you know what's up with automatically embedding IG posts? For quite some time now you'd only get an error message.

[Chrismo]

22 minutes ago, April said:

BTS from Mayim:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BR_T47zDz8b/

 

@Tripper Do you know what's up with automatically embedding IG posts? For quite some time now you'd only get an error message.

Please tell me not a Bert episode.

[Swedish Chef]

2 hours ago, April said:

BTS from Mayim:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BR_T47zDz8b/

 

@Tripper Do you know what's up with automatically embedding IG posts? For quite some time now you'd only get an error message.

Oh wow, Johnny is looking really excited 

Edited March 23, 2017 by Lagernisse

[veejay]

^    Wow. New wine in old bottles at work.

[Tonstar17]

So, until next Wesnesday, if we are lucky, we can get new things to talk about, right? 
So instead of Leonard's cheating, Penny's fooling around with Raj, Amy's drugging, we can have some NEW and REFRESHING stuff to talk about.
And I'm just wondering, why is there no one talking about Sheldon's shit?  Because he is just a so perfect character?  
IMO, we should treat the characters equally, right?  

That's cause sheldon can do no wrong. Even when he does, others get blamed for his behavious, never his fault as he doesn't know what he is doing. As for sheldon growth, I don't see it, he will always be a jerk. When shamy were broken up or when he was having problems with Amy who was there for him. Lenny. And how did he repay them. By tormenting and laughing at their misfourtune when lenny fight and cant wait to rub it in with his side kick Amy on how their relationship is better instead of being there for them, also upsetting raj by being a dick to him, not taking Amy feeling into account by teasing her with sex that he had no intention of following through. Yes this guy has changed. NOT...Tbtb only changes sheldon to give him more storylines but then is quickly reverted back to his old self. Same old sheldon. Once a jerk always a jerk. I hope they keep the drugs jokes as it is the only funny thing about him that gives me a laugh, instead of him annoying me.

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[Anita]

10 hours ago, bfm said:

I strongly disagree. If Leonard and Penny didn't have anything at all in common they would not become a couple, no matter how much chemistry J&K have and how much the writers desire to make them a couple. They may have different hobbies, occupations and interests but is that all there is? Monica and Chandler, one of (if not THE) my favorite sitcom couples, were also different in these regards, yet Friends didn't emphasize that as TBBT does for Lenny. Monica and Chandler, as Courtney Cox said before they were even together, had a similar sarcasric attitude. They were also quite neurotic. They were similar in aspects of their personalities. Lenny are also this way. Both have a similar sense of humor and (albeit tossing some harsh jokes on their friends which goes back to the humor part) are quite kind and compassionate (see Sheldon and now Raj...). If I had to define the characters in few words I would probably use "snarky and compassionate" for both. This allows them to take joint stances on many ocassions. The openning of "The Escape Hatch Identification" shows that really well - they respond to Raj's post in a similar way (joking but feeling sorry for him, wanting to help but preferring not to) and make a joint decision easily. It also shows when they comment on other characters, IMO many of their lines could be switched and we wouldn't notice. I also think it's quite plausible that both have at least some similar social and political views but the show justifiably doesn't go there. Focusing on their differences is a choice, not something that is necessary because of their characteristics.

Actually, when the writers want to show them doing something together they seem to be able to do so. For instance, we have seen them having fun dressing up in both "The Valentino Submergance" and "The Holiday Summation". I also find it implausible that they can't find anything to do together after being good friends for almost 9.5 years and a couple for about 6, living across the hall or together all along. Do they seriously expect me to believe all they did was making out, having sex and deal with Sheldon? This is preposterous.

I did't say leonard and penny don't have nothing in common, I said the writters have made their differences "their thing", you are comparing them with monica and chandler when to me they are Ross and Rachel. The point of monica and chandler's relationship was the long term friends who fall in love and overcome their issues together. Ross and rachel were the scientific nerd boy in love with the popular girl, saving the distances from Lenny is a similar paradigm, and they were in a "neither with you nor without you" relationship until the very end. I didn't mean they can not enjoy their lives  together or find things to do together I meant the writters, at the end always come back to the old issues with them

[vonmar]

missmayim THERE IS A SLOTH AT MY WORK TODAY . I AM CLOSE TO TEARS. PACO, I LOVE YOU.

 

[shamyarmy2016]

On 3/21/2017 at 11:28 PM, Carlos said:

A lot of people would contend that Sheldon still is a jerk, actually.

yes but amy is the reason sheldo n is half sane and half insane and i only spoke for myslef and the mayim fans

[No Regrets]

14 minutes ago, vonmar said:

missmayim THERE IS A SLOTH AT MY WORK TODAY . I AM CLOSE TO TEARS. PACO, I LOVE YOU.

 

Let's hope she won't have a Kristen Bell type of meltdown because of the sloth (which, btw, ya'll have to watch on YouTube because it's hysterical).

[3ku11]

Lenny despite the apparent lack of common interests. And being portrayed by the show as having nothing in common. And having no buisness being together. Ironically have always worked the best as a couple. Howardette with them. For all Shamy have in common. At times they struggle for simple parity and simple communication. Lenny have always been on the same planet their. 

I do agree the characters should be more fleshed out by this point. Penny is one of the main characters. But individually we barley see that. Like Rachel in Friends. We've never seen any individual plots for Penny. Is it too late at this point in the series run. To fix that part of the character of Penny? The fact outside the group. She has no real interests. Career wise she still lacks direction. In Friends Rachel Quit as a waitress in S3. Seeing theirs always comparisons between the characters. Penny quit in s7. They left it way too late. And even now three seasons later. They are no more wiser what they are doing with Penny in that regard. 

Its like with the "Leonard wore her down" jokes. They annoy me. As a fan since 1.01. Leonard diddnt wore her down. Penny fell in love with Leonard over time. Due to him being different from other guys. And Leonard intellectually challenging Her on a level no guy previously did. I miss the way they would show that. Now they are married and in a different phase in their life's. I don't think expect it in the sane way. But I don't expect them to act like Penny settled. When if anything you could argue Leonard settled. Beyond looks, what does Penny offer at this point? I miss the way they would show Penny loves Leonard. Without really realising It. Or even trying to show it.

S4 The Justice League Recombination. She only opened the door for Leonard. Diddnt want to go to the Comic Book Store party. Because of Leonard. Asked him how she looks. Only caring what Leonard thought. She loved him. And not because he wore her down. But despite their differences they always had a kinda unspoken language and bond.

Could go as far as back. As S2 Finalie. The Monopolar expedition. Penny "it means I don't want you to go". Penny was so in love. 

Season 7 Penny being romantic by keeping the small stuff that symbolised how much Leonard means to her. 

S6. The Closet Reconfiguration. 

It just seems to me as Nograv pointed out. Because They have Kept them off the stove for so long. Ala neglected them. They have forgotten all of this. So they make jokes. 

[Tripper]

3 hours ago, April said:

BTS from Mayim:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BR_T47zDz8b/

 

@Tripper Do you know what's up with automatically embedding IG posts? For quite some time now you'd only get an error message.

Yes, this is the result of a change to the forum's configuration to make it more secure a while back. Images have to be uploaded now, so they're served from this site, instead of being linked from elsewhere. There were potential security issues with images from other sites showing up directly.

I'll check if there's an option to whitelist certain sites, like Instagram, to make it less burdensome.

[vonmar]

themelissarauch I'm so in love with this @bigbangtheory_cbs guest star...Paco the Sloth!