[Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10

[joyceraye]

Thank you, itwasdestined.  Glad you had so much fun !

Did they show you the previous episode ?

There are many branches of maths. When I was at school we had four. The French also use the plural and call it les mathematiques.

Sounds as though you both had a whale of a time. Enjoy the rest of your holiday and safe journey home.

 

[veejay]

22 minutes ago, Itwasdestined said:

Hi all. Just a quick report. Got to pack our bags for a flight to San Francisco in the morning

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Thank you so much @Itwasdestined ! Great summary. Sounds like you have the wonderful experience that you and your wife had expected. Happy vacation furthermore.

[Enrico Fermi]

Boy, they really doubled down on the whole mother and child motif with Sheldon and Amy.

I can't say I look forward to a Bert-heavy episode, but at least it's a tiny respite from Sheldon Cooper Presents: The Sheldon Show with Shamy and Their Insignificant Friends.  I dare say I want more Raj.

[April]

Many thanks to @Itwasdestined and @snow*flower!! Sounds like you had a great time! <3

[joyceraye]

Thank you, snow*flower. That sounds really funny. You have solved the mysteries for us about why Sheldon was at the dance bar, why he was lying on the couch, that he had a cold, and what he had in his mouth Phew !

So it's true that he over - reacts to medication the same way he gets hyper after taking caffeine. That answers some other questions that have been posed in the discussions recently.

I hope you had a wonderful time.

[rachelshamyfan]

19 hours ago, Chrismo said:

 

The post above yours was criticizing Penny's appearance. Interesting that wasn't commented on.

But Mayim is in as good of shape as Kaley? Really. In the storyline I believe Raj asked Penny to join him in yoga. Also the poster commented on Amy not doing yoga not Mayim. I don't recall Amy doing any kind of exercise.

Please refer me to which post because I can't see the one you are talking about

[veejay]

Thanks @snow*flower, glad you enjoyed it.

[luminous]

10 hours ago, Itwasdestined said:

 I'll answer any questions if you have any then.

Have you seen episode 10.20 "The Recollection Dissipation"? If so, can you say something about Lenny in this episode?

Edited March 29, 2017 by luminous

[rachelshamyfan]

1 hour ago, 3ku11 said:

Ugh I love Bert. But a Bert A Plot. That is like giving Mike in Friends an A Plot. People watch this show to see Lenny, Sheldon, and the rest of the gang. Not the Gang help Burt with his gold digging gf. They did this with Penny and Raj in Season 5. So this is repeated cannon. IT feels like the show has officially jumped the shark. Let's make the main characters in a supporting role. 

Maybe they are ignoring Lenny on purpose to have a Lenny filled cliffhanger season finale

[Sah]

24 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

To see the stars of the show. There is certain characters that aren't favorites but I rather see them than a recycled storyline with a once in a while character. It seems obvious that TPTB can't or won't come up with stories with the characters that the fans fell in love with.

I see. You like the older stuff? I like the older stuff as well. I guess they had to make some changes that reflect growing up and getting older. The cast looks older now so they have to continue aging the characters as well. I would like to see more Fun with Flags, entire group all back in 4A for dinners, more science plots or experiments,  more Leonard and Sheldon being good friends like they used to be. More Raj and Howard. More nice Penny and less sarcastic and mean Penny. Less putting Sheldon down for being different. 

[Chrismo]

On March 27, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Judith said:

Also she does yoga - we should be seeing results pretty soon.

This is what I was referring to Rachel. What kinds of results. Kind of insinuates that Penny looks bad.

Edited March 29, 2017 by Chrismo

[veejay]

3 minutes ago, Sah said:

I see. You like the older stuff? I like the older stuff as well. I guess they had to make some changes that reflect growing up and getting older. The cast looks older now so they have to continue aging the characters as well. I would like to see more Fun with Flags, entire group all back in 4A for dinners, more science plots or experiments,  more Leonard and Sheldon being good friends like they used to be. More Raj and Howard. More nice Penny and less sarcastic and mean Penny. Less putting Sheldon down for being different. 

Agree!

[rachelshamyfan]

44 minutes ago, Itwasdestined said:

Hi all. Just a quick report. Got to pack our bags for a flight to San Francisco in the morning

Episode was called "The Separation Agitation". If anything it was centered on Bert and StuHowardette more than anyone. But I thought everyone got a fair run without dominating. It was StuHowardette and Bert and the rest appearing together.

Started with Fun with Flags: Behind the Flags - a retrospective complete with Raj and Howard on music. Shamy talk to Lenny ( at the kitchen island of course!) via video link about their Fun with Flags memories. They of course show their utter contempt for the whole thing. Found Penny's repartee funny. Then they call for viewers to call in with their memories. Deadly silence is followed by excitement when Bert calls - but just to tell them he has a girl friend. They ask for callers who want to talk flag memories but the next call is just Bert again telling them her name is Rebecca.

Later at the university cafeteria, Sheldon, Leonard and Raj are joking around, Bert sits with them, Leonard invites him to come to his place for dinner so they can meet his girl. When they arrive she is a stunning blonde who is a failed actress who has become a personal trainer. She's much younger than Bert. Penny asks if Rebecca has dates a scientist before because she was thinking of starting a support group. Rebecca says she dated a Scientologist. Sheldon quips Bert is copying Lenny. We find out they met online. Raj remarks he had not much success online. Bert says he only got success when he mentioned his $600 thousand grant. Sheldon gets sent out by Amy when he speaks inappropriately. Bec comes back and says if she'd done something wrong and Leonard just says it's just normal Sheldon. Bec says something that implies it was the money and Amy is immediately suspicious and mentions it when Bec goes to the toilet. Sheldon makes another comment, gets sent out again but Amy calls him back when Bec makes her suspicious again. It was all very funny but can't remember the lines. When Bert leaves, Sheldon compares them to Lenny - Berts money and his groveling to get the girl and Leonard says it's completely different - Berts money will run out but he can beg till he dies. Penny quips - all that and he's shorter than me. ( Some will be annoyed by the usual insults but we all found it funny in the delivery of it. I thought Lenny were funny together and Amy's reactions to Sheldons comments were hilarious.

Back at cafeteria next day, Sheldon tells a joke about Feinmann, Einstein and Schrodinger. Raj and Leonard react slowly but eventually love. Bert comes in. He is worried about what everyone said about being used. He says something about the relationship that Sheldon thinks is funny and tells Leonard it's his turn to tell a joke.

Bert turns up at the apartment to tell them he broke it off. Raj starts saying he did the right thing, comparing him to his story which gets depressing and says maybe someone else should speak. Amy is glad but Bert is upset she convinced him. Sheldon has a go at her and she says to raise your hand for permission to speak. Penny tells Bert he should be looking for someone who likes him for who he is not what he has. Sheldon raises his hand and Penny makes the mistake of letting him speak because he delivers one of his trademark Lenny insults and Leonard just looks up at her and says don't look at me you gave him permission. Bert then leaves saying he might buy Bec a jet ski to get her back. Then there's a Fun with Flags retrospective retrospective and a call comes through and it's Bert saying it worked he got her back.

The report of this plot doesn't do it justice. The jokes were very funny in my opinion and everyone else in the audience sounded like they agreed. There were no real dead spots in audience reaction.

The other separation plot was Bernie going back to work but being really unhappy about but she is hiding that from Howard. She confides in Stuart who has clearly replaced Raj now that he's moved in with Lenny. Before going back to work, they all take Halley to the zoo but that just depresses Bernie more because she compares herself to other mammals who stay with their young longer than her. Howard has a chat to Stuart as well but he reveals nothing. They finally all share their feelings when it comes to dropping off Halley. They all cry except the baby and Bernie does her trademark angry thing telling Halley off for not caring.

Later Howard and Stuart are at daycare dropping her off, showing Bernie via FaceTime how Halley is fine. Bernie cracks it again because she ignores her The boys can't leave. They steal Halley away and take her to the aquarium. Later they come home and pretend they are back from daycare but are caught because Bernie got a call about them taking the baby.

Again the report doesn't do it justice without the jokes. I thought all three were hilarious interacting with each other. Stuart got Howard a few times with some comebacks and Bernie as always got them both.

Thought it was a very funny episode. Lots of good jokes and no one really dominated.

Mayim was hilarious but had a shocker with bloopers. At one point she was just sitting off camera eating the food laughing. I think she was distracted by friends in the front row. Everyone fluffed a line or two and a few scenes got joke rewrites. Raj had his family there as well. As was Kaleys dad but apparently he's always there. Jim reacted to the crowd more than usual according to others near me who had been before. Johnny and Kaley as always climbed up to speak to the audience confirming two more years and thanking all the fans.

My wife and I had an absolute ball and stole the show in the audience interaction between scenes. Mrs Itwas won best laugh and I must say I dominated the dance competition ( I did a follow up dance with a crew member I was that "good" - it was no contest on the applause-o-meter) and gave as good as I got from the MC when he started picking on my Aussie accent. According to my wife I had Kaley and Mayim in stitches when I started talking about the difference between Americans calling it math and us Aussies saying Maths. He asked me my job and I said Maths teacher. He said if I'd had trouble communicating with Americans while here and I said only the last two minutes.

I have to go write a report on my day for my Facebook fans - family and friends - now so I'm going off till tomorrow. I'll answer any questions if you have any then.

So worth the 15 hour flight!!!


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Do you get to see baby Hallie?

[amethyst]

Thank you @Itwasdestined and @snow*flower for the info!! 

[wowbagger]

Thanks, @snow*flower, for the information on both episodes! that's a few mysteries cleared up. I hope you had a wonderful time!

@Itwasdestined, I'm not going to say I hope you had a wonderful time, because it seems pretty obvious from your TR that you did, and that TBBT had a wonderful time hosting you. You'll forgive me too, I hope, for saying that that your (and MrsIWD's) antics sound way more fun than the episode itself, because said antics sound like a blast. But thank you for the information.

As to the TR: the fatal 'f' word is trembling on my lips. Look, I quite like Bert. But I could have sailed happily through life without getting into the guts of his depressing love-life. The saving grace here is, I suppose, that we get a fair amount of group interaction (sans Howardette and - oy - Stuart) while they're dissecting said love-life. My Lenny friends are going to hate the Lenny jabs, I imagine, and I admit that this sounds like one of those episodes where I can't quite figure out why these people hang out together. And yes, not a huge fan of Amy once more being seemingly relegated to policing Sheldon's behaviour, but maybe it'll play out differently?

The Howardette plot has this to say for it, I think, which is that the separation anxiety is not painted as an exclusively Mommy thing. That, at least, is good.

But I am once more squinting at the show and thinking 'You have barely twenty minutes of running time, and seven characters for whom you need to find stories. And now Stuart, for some reason. Do you really think you can handle guest characters on top of it? Bert and the sloth?'

[Sah]

41 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

I don't think anyone ever condoned violence towards Amy. 

And, like, plonk Amy onto the back of some mettlesome Mustang or something just to teach her not to fib.

What did you mean by plonk Amy onto the back of a mettlesome Mustang. To me, plonk means hitting, pushing or being rough with. Pushing her onto the back of a car sounds violent to me...

[joyceraye]

29 minutes ago, Enrico Fermi said:

Boy, they really doubled down on the whole mother and child motif with Sheldon and Amy.

I can't say I look forward to a Bert-heavy episode, but at least it's a tiny respite from Sheldon Cooper Presents: The Sheldon Show with Shamy and Their Insignificant Friends.  I dare say I want more Raj.

Sounds as though they gave Raj the chance to sympathise with Bert and look back on his love life because he had a gold digger too. I don't suppose Howard will mention his own experience.

[Chrismo]

18 minutes ago, Sah said:

I see. You like the older stuff? I like the older stuff as well. I guess they had to make some changes that reflect growing up and getting older. The cast looks older now so they have to continue aging the characters as well. I would like to see more Fun with Flags, entire group all back in 4A for dinners, more science plots or experiments,  more Leonard and Sheldon being good friends like they used to be. More Raj and Howard. More nice Penny and less sarcastic and mean Penny. Less putting Sheldon down for being different. 

It doesn't necessarily need to be older stuff. But as mentioned before a reused storyline whose lead is a seldom used character.

[snapepans]

37 minutes ago, Sah said:

I see. You like the older stuff? I like the older stuff as well. I guess they had to make some changes that reflect growing up and getting older. The cast looks older now so they have to continue aging the characters as well. I would like to see more Fun with Flags, entire group all back in 4A for dinners, more science plots or experiments,  more Leonard and Sheldon being good friends like they used to be. More Raj and Howard. More nice Penny and less sarcastic and mean Penny. Less putting Sheldon down for being different. 

Totally agree!

And the bold part, that sarcastic and mean "Penny" was from Season 9, in Season 10, the old nice and funny Penny was back, I'm so grateful!

Oh, and, writers, please. IF you really have some troubles for thinking of the plots, please give each and every one of the seven characters their own episode or episodes.

I, for one, am totally OK the entire episode is based on one of the seven main characters.

We still have 51 episodes, Bert is funny, but he can't help you THAT MUCH.

Edited March 29, 2017 by snapepans
spell error

[3ku11]

29 minutes ago, rachelshamyfan said:

Maybe they are ignoring Lenny on purpose to have a Lenny filled cliffhanger season finale

Huh they have ignored Lenny since Season 7 

Edited March 29, 2017 by 3ku11

[wowbagger]

7 minutes ago, Sah said:

And, like, plonk Amy onto the back of some mettlesome Mustang or something just to teach her not to fib.

What did you mean by plonk Amy onto the back of a mettlesome Mustang. To me, plonk means hitting, pushing or being rough with. Pushing her onto the back of a car sounds violent to me...

Ah, I see. To me, 'plonk' means 'put (unceremoniously)'. And a mustang was a horse before it was a car (silly phone autocorrects to capitalise the 'm'). What I meant was that Penny could take Amy horseback riding to teach her a lesson about fibbing to friends. Of course, you're still absolutely within your rights to call it an aggressive response, even a violent one. Just thought I'd clear up what I meant.

[3ku11]

13 minutes ago, Sah said:

And, like, plonk Amy onto the back of some mettlesome Mustang or something just to teach her not to fib.

What did you mean by plonk Amy onto the back of a mettlesome Mustang. To me, plonk means hitting, pushing or being rough with. Pushing her onto the back of a car sounds violent to me...

I never said anything about Amy. I could care less about her character. 

[Jonny]

Thanks for the TR and spoilers @Itwasdestined and @snow*flower, greatly appreciated and it sounds like you both had a fantastic time!

[April]

35 minutes ago, wowbagger said:

Thanks, @snow*flower, for the information on both episodes! that's a few mysteries cleared up. I hope you had a wonderful time!

@Itwasdestined, I'm not going to say I hope you had a wonderful time, because it seems pretty obvious from your TR that you did, and that TBBT had a wonderful time hosting you. You'll forgive me too, I hope, for saying that that your (and MrsIWD's) antics sound way more fun than the episode itself, because said antics sound like a blast. But thank you for the information.

Ha! They should've filmed the audience here! I'd have loved to see @Itwasdestined's smooth moves!

Hope you and your wife have a great remaining holiday, @Itwasdestined!! <3

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As to the TR: the fatal 'f' word is trembling on my lips. Look, I quite like Bert. But I could have sailed happily through life without getting into the guts of his depressing love-life. The saving grace here is, I suppose, that we get a fair amount of group interaction (sans Howardette and - oy - Stuart) while they're dissecting said love-life. My Lenny friends are going to hate the Lenny jabs, I imagine, and I admit that this sounds like one of those episodes where I can't quite figure out why these people hang out together. And yes, not a huge fan of Amy once more being seemingly relegated to policing Sheldon's behaviour, but maybe it'll play out differently?

Gotta agree with you here. I wouldn't have minded the Bert thing if it were a plot that would interest me more but I'm sensing a theme here that his dating experience is bringing out the worst in everyone which is giving me 9x21 flashbacks. I don't think we needed more of "Amy managing Sheldon", "Leonard wore Penny down" or "Raj is a pathetic loser in general". Ughh

It surely will play out much lighter than it reads on paper, as per usual. But I'm also certain that this won't be my favourite episode this season by a long shot.

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The Howardette plot has this to say for it, I think, which is that the separation anxiety is not painted as an exclusively Mommy thing. That, at least, is good.

Personally, I'm honestly really impressed by how the show handled the whole pregnancy/baby thing. This could have gone down so terribly but so far those stories have been rather sweet and touched on some issues I rarely see explored with such honesty. So I'm not surprised that this one checks out as well.

Edited March 29, 2017 by April

[Sah]

11 minutes ago, wowbagger said:

Ah, I see. To me, 'plonk' means 'put (unceremoniously)'. And a mustang was a horse before it was a car (silly phone autocorrects to capitalise the 'm'). What I meant was that Penny could take Amy horseback riding to teach her a lesson about fibbing to friends. Of course, you're still absolutely within your rights to call it an aggressive response, even a violent one. Just thought I'd clear up what I meant.

Thank you for that. Funny how different words mean different things to different people