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2 minutes ago, agt_1 said:

Re the minor but amusing point about Sheldon swimming. I'm reminded of the discussion in Deviated Septum.

Leonard: He was so busy figuring out how many parts per million of urine we’d be floating around in, he didn’t even question it.

Scene: Amy’s car.

Sheldon: 18 parts per million. And he’s still doing it.

I'm pretty sure this was after he'd kissed Amy and her germ-filled mouth so the idea that Sheldon would go into a pool with that urine knowledge in mind is pretty funny/ridiculous/OOC/totally unimportant (take your pick) :icon_cheesygrin:

She must have taken him to a "special" elite pool. No kids allowed.

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4 minutes ago, agt_1 said:

Re the minor but amusing point about Sheldon swimming. I'm reminded of the discussion in Deviated Septum.

Leonard: He was so busy figuring out how many parts per million of urine we’d be floating around in, he didn’t even question it.

Scene: Amy’s car.

Sheldon: 18 parts per million. And he’s still doing it.

I'm pretty sure this was after he'd kissed Amy and her germ-filled mouth so the idea that Sheldon would go into a pool with that urine knowledge in mind is pretty funny/ridiculous/OOC/totally unimportant (take your pick) :icon_cheesygrin:

I'm pretty certain that was exactly the point. That Ramona got him to do something he normally wouldn't do. That lady got a pretty strong grip on him 8 years ago so I guess the idea was that she is still one of those people who can get Sheldon to do about anything. If it weren't the pool they would have picked any other activity Sheldon decried in the past years and doesn't do already. Like, if he hadn't already have a driver's licence it probably could have been this, for example.

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3 minutes ago, djsurrey said:

She must have taken him to a "special" elite pool. No kids allowed.

From the description in TR about him freaking over how many people were in his 'bathtub' it sounded like a well-filled public pool but you could be right. We shall never know. :scratchhead:

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25 minutes ago, agt_1 said:

Re the minor but amusing point about Sheldon swimming. I'm reminded of the discussion in Deviated Septum.

Leonard: He was so busy figuring out how many parts per million of urine we’d be floating around in, he didn’t even question it.

Scene: Amy’s car.

Sheldon: 18 parts per million. And he’s still doing it.

I'm pretty sure this was after he'd kissed Amy and her germ-filled mouth so the idea that Sheldon would go into a pool with that urine knowledge in mind is pretty funny/ridiculous/OOC/totally unimportant (take your pick) :icon_cheesygrin:

I'm still questioning how and when exactly Sheldon and Ramona became friends as well as the swimming thing

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5 hours ago, camelliayao said:

He has come to such a big realization that he watches sponge bob on the flight to Princeton?

is it his choice of entertainment to which you object, or the choice of his mode of transport?

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5 hours ago, camelliayao said:

He has come to such a big realization that he watches sponge bob on the flight to Princeton?

:icon_cheesygrin:. LOL. Yeah that. Maybe he is looking for inspiration. If he was really in the Romantic Mood. He could of chucked on The Notebook. I guess Spongebob was only thing available. 

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4 hours ago, 3ku11 said:

Personally from a non shipper pov.  I find the idea of Sheldon proposing impulsively non romantic. And Amy would be premature to rush into a marrage based on that. Amy saying yes, while not knowing some woman kissed him? Surley that is going to bring some doubt into her mind. I mean Shamy have not been through the stress Lenny went through. But I Still think Amy should say no at this juncture. 

I believe there is pretty much a consensus in the Shamy fandom that Sheldon should tell Amy that Ramona made a pass at him. He's done nothing wrong, he got the hell out of there as soon as Ramona's intentions were declared (she kissed him mid conversation when he was listing to her why nothing is going to happen between them).

Sheldon could have been thinking about proposing for some time, clearly he was missing her based on the Skype conversations they were having. The guy has such a complex mind and unusual ways of processing that for him to do something suddenly is not that unheard of.

I think she will say yes, maybe after a talk where they talk about Ramona and Sheldon perhaps gets to declare something romantic to Amy and how he feels about her.

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1 hour ago, No Regrets said:

I'm torn. I think there's two ways this can go:

1. Amy says yes immediately and later finds out about what exactly prompted Sheldon to fly out to see her. Potential drama with her questioning Sheldon's motive. Maybe.

2. Amy asks Sheldon to come in and asks him why he's suddenly proposing. He explains and she (most likely) will say yes afterwards.

I agree. I believe the writers will go for number 2, Amy realizing that he is stressed and asking him to come in, then they talk about it calmly, she calms him down and asks him if he is sure he wants to propose and he says yes and explains how he understood that she is the only woman he wants to be with and he wants to secure that (not sure if that's the right word, sorry). Sheldon is the writers' golden boy, they usually don't screw with him too much (that's mostly reserved for Leonard, their punching bag). 

BTW, as @shamyyellow mentioned, I do think there is a possibility for them not to show it. They could jump to the time Amy's fellowship is over and make us wonder about her answer for the whole episode. It may be interesting, IMO, since it will keep some tension in the air instead of hearing her saying yes immediately.

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11 minutes ago, bfm said:

I agree. I believe the writers will go for number 2, Amy realizing that he is stressed and asking him to come in, then they talk about it calmly, she calms him down and asks him if he is sure he wants to propose and he says yes and explains how he understood that she is the only woman he wants to be with and he wants to secure that (not sure if that's the right word, sorry).

I wouldn't actually expect Sheldon to be the stressed one. If there's one thing that has hold true for their big moments it's that he's calm and confident and knows what he wants and it's Amy who's going into a state of shock or even panic. Kazzie described Sheldon as being his usual calm self in that scene so I would expect a Shamy-typical scenario where Amy is overwhelmed by the moment.

As I've written earlier in the Shamy thread, ideally that would be a great opportunity to give them a moment where Amy has to sit down a bit and Sheldon can explain what happened and make another dorky declaration of love and try again when Amy calmed down enough.

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Amy has had a panic attack before on the show so it wouldn't surprise me lol. I think she could have almost had one earlier this season in Veracity when she gasped after asking if Sheldon wants to live with her and Penny told her to be cool and keep calm in that language lol.

Mayim can really pull off excited moments like that in terms of expressional comedy.

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10 hours ago, camelliayao said:

He has come to such a big realization that he watches sponge bob on the flight to Princeton?

Considering the game they played together at the aquarium where Amy suggested Spongebob as one of Sheldon's choices to eat, fight, or befriend I think it is obvious he still had Any in mind while watching it.  Cute!  It just further proves to me that Sheldon was not panicking.  He figured the time was right and was relaxed with his decision long before he got to Amy's door.  It seems he is confident of the outcome.

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18 hours ago, legacy99 said:


If your living someone and you go on any kind of date with a different person imo you are cheating

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You forgot the "Bazinga" at the end, right.

 

15 hours ago, Chrismo said:

So if I'm understanding correctly back in season 6 when Alex asked Leonard out to dinner to discuss the Kip Thorn lecture that would have been okay for Leonard to accept? 

At that point, Leonard was oblivious to the fact Alex liked him, so it would have been okay because he thought she was going to discuss the lecture with him.

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58 minutes ago, jenafan said:

Considering the game they played together at the aquarium where Amy suggested Spongebob as one of Sheldon's choices to eat, fight, or befriend I think it is obvious he still had Any in mind while watching it.  Cute!  It just further proves to me that Sheldon was not panicking.  He figured the time was right and was relaxed with his decision long before he got to Amy's door.  It seems he is confident of the outcome.

Indeed. Sheldon when is determined about something, he acts calmly . Awkwardly but calmly. I also think he did not panicked as he decided to go to Princeton. He realized it was time to do something he has being hesitating about. Because there are no more reasons to be hesitant about. He wants Amy and he will ever want her.

As you said in an early post you quoted one of my posts it is ironic that one kiss gave by another man to Amy made Sheldon decide to not propose and one from a woman in himself made him to propose Amy. Even Amy might not know about Sheldon saw the Dave's kiss on her, I think this time it was a question of more confidence even in midle of a long hesitation from Sheldon.

I mean, when he saw Amy being kissed by Dave he was feeling he had lost her and they were broken up, he could not  have made more to get her back as she was already with another man, as it seemed. THis time Sheldon is in a serious relationship with Amy and for a miserstooding he could loose her, and he knows if he do something about it,  he can fix it like talk to her and final saying to her eventually  why he was hesitating to propose her. He doesnt seem to me he could be feeling guilty as he did not do anytyhing for that kiss happen.

However he might have  felt  it was time to show to others that he is taken. I know this can sound a bit strange but what I think it shocked more Sheldon about Ramona kissing him was the fact she hitted on him even he being taken. He now knows he his feelings  for Amy are equally as hers is for him: they love each other, no matter what. So why does he still feel hesitant?

Confidence. He now  might feel he is that better man she deserved he could become. So he wants to marry her and he is confident enough to show her that and in his heart he knows she wants that too. He still needs to figure out better what is apropriated behavior from women to him and vice versa but if Amy listen to him about the kiss, she would help him  understand what he did wrong. Amy always knows him better than anyone. Amy is his shelter no matter what. So his fears might have disappeared and the decision to propose her came out as the most logical thing for he to do in that crisis situation.

Besides that ring was already on Sheldon's pocket. Ramona was the bad that leads to good, as many times happen in our lives. He did not decide to propose as something out of blue. That thought has been his mind since the breaking up. Recently the proposal might be in his mind   likely since they made love to say a temporary good bye as Amy is in Priceton for work reasons and they were missing already each other a lot. Surely Amy would want to talk about why made him cross the country to see her and propose her before she says yes. They have a serious talk to share indeed.

Everything is fixed as people are honest among themselves. Sheldon and Amy usually talk about their issues. The Ramona issue surely will be something that we might not remenber much as the season 11 reaches its midle, as it was a relationship issue they fixed it.

 And imo even this was shaking a bit their relationship, it was good because we had seen before Amy could get others guys but Sheldon. THis time was about him with another woman. They are like everyone else, not unique people that only can be seen by the other. They have never been on market of the relationships but they could, they are a man and a woman capable of have a functional relationship in all ways. As any couple else, they might have jealousy issues and things alike. This only made their relationship more  real to the viewers. I hope I made sense, sorry the typos and some rambling in the  midle of the post.

 

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10 hours ago, Carlos said:

I think that if Lenny want quality scripts they should get a spinoff sit-com and different writers.

Yes, the Leonard-Mandy kiss was not seen onscreen, and therein lies the problem. I, for example didn't think it was mutual and felt like there was no intent on Leonard's part either. What muddled the waters was that he waited 2 years to tell Penny, which was of course because the writers thought of it 2 years later. I hope Sheldon tells Amy right away and that the writers don't make him hide it for 2 years.

Leonard probably didn't tell Penny right away because he was afraid (whether justifiably or not) that Penny would leave him. He's had this happen before, where he is open about something like this and he's gotten burned. Even the conversation in the car on the way to Vegas gives away something. He was sure Penny had some "secrets" she never told Leonard. At the time (of the boat trip), he may have been afraid if he admitted to the "kiss", Penny would counter with something worse, JUST LIKE Priya did when he told her he kissed the comic book artist and Priya responds that she's been banging her old boyfriend.

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5 minutes ago, BigBang15 said:

Leonard probably didn't tell Penny right away because he was afraid (whether justifiably or not) that Penny would leave him. He's had this happen before, where he is open about something like this and he's gotten burned. Even the conversation in the car on the way to Vegas gives away something. He was sure Penny had some "secrets" she never told Leonard. At the time (of the boat trip), he may have been afraid if he admitted to the "kiss", Penny would counter with something worse, JUST LIKE Priya did when he told her he kissed the comic book artist and Priya responds that she's been banging her old boyfriend.

I think things were compounded because he was on a boat and no chance to see Penny. Though it wasn't Howdette's fault I'm surprised that they didn't suggest to Leonard to tell Penny, especially Bernadette.

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2 minutes ago, Jonny said:

Love them!

If there was ever a hypothetical episode where you just featured pretty much the three of them as the only storyline I could totally see them being able to pull it off. I could not say that about the guys, not now.

At least we are about to have a long overdue Shelnard scene in 23 :)

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13 minutes ago, bfm said:

At least we are about to have a long overdue Shelnard scene in 23 :)

True, but I've seen a lot not to like this season in regards to that relationship. It might not have the same impact it once had for me. If you see more bad than good then sometimes the good times lose some shine.

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At that point, Leonard was oblivious to the fact Alex liked him, so it would have been okay because he thought she was going to discuss the lecture with him.

So far every example given to me has been best friend and family friend. In this case Amy and Romana aren't best friends and in this case it seems to have happened right after Amy wented to Princeton i don't think amy would have been too happy to hear about this So i do consider this cheating our disagreement probably comes from being from different generations

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38 minutes ago, Jonny said:

True, but I've seen a lot not to like this season in regards to that relationship. It might not have the same impact it once had for me. If you see more bad than good then sometimes the good times lose some shine.

I totally agree on their relationship. It became almost nonexistent. We had some nice scenes but they were few, thus I am looking forward to see one. I wish we had more like "The Troll Manifestation", to me that was a great episode for them.

 

BTW, isn't it odd that Leonard is the one to talk to Amy about Ramona? Was Penny busy? Was he doing it as Sheldon's friend, to prevent it getting complicated because of Sheldon's obliviousness? Or was he doing it as Amy's friend, hence an indication of their (friendly) relatuonship strenghening? 

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Sounded a bit like Penny was trying to take control and get them organised. They also have the 'who is going to warn Amy?' in the dialogue, presumably Leonard got the short straw lol, or Penny just told him to do it. By the sounds of it you don't know why Leonard was the one to do it. I guess he could have offered if they were bickering over who should.

Leonard and Amy do seem to be on a bit of a better standing this season but I wouldn't say massively imo.

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47 minutes ago, legacy99 said:


So far every example given to me has been best friend and family friend. In this case Amy and Romana aren't best friends and in this case it seems to have happened right after Amy wented to Princeton i don't think amy would have been too happy to hear about this So i do consider this cheating our disagreement probably comes from being from different generations

So wait then, just to get the "rules" straight here: Person A is in a relationship with Person B. Person A is allowed to socialise alone with Person C if Person C is ... _________________________ (please fill in the blank)

I would think "colleague" is a valid category here as well as "friend" in general. That's what friends are for, you hang out with them. And these days you're also encouraged to hang out with your colleagues every once in a while. Especially universities can have a pretty casual atmosphere about that. Nothing out of the ordinary here.

On top of that Sheldon isn't keeping his friendship with Ramona a secret from Amy nor is he doing anything that is particularly scandalous with her.

So what exactly is the problem?

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