[Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10

[Judith]

49 minutes ago, Nogravitasatall said:

Im going to hope that Sheldon enjoyed the kiss, reflected a little on his options, then went back to the person he loved. Again, much what happened when they did this last time (not even in flashback). Of course... it could go the other way. Have to watch 11.01 to find out. Funny that.

And. Did Ramona float when they swam? We know what that means. If it floats like a duck... I'll get the torches. Back later. 

That's a bit difficult to happen since in Sheldon's mind his only option has always been Amy and he's never strayed away from her - he was oblivious to Ramona pursuing him and was shocked by the kiss and didn't participate. Leonard, well, that's another story.

[luminous]

 

[jenafan]

Sheldon was being himself.   If talking about one's girlfriend all the time is considered flirting, then I need to invest in a new dictionary.   If flirting was perceived by Ramona, then she read more into Sheldon's actions than was there.   He was clearly constantly rubbing Amy in her face.   Perhaps therein lay the problem.  If having a girlfriend isnt enough to keep another woman with romantic intentions at bay, then perhaps a rock on Amy's finger will get the message across.

[Tensor]

1 minute ago, Judith said:

That's a bit difficult to happen since in Sheldon's mind his only option has always been Amy and he's never strayed away from her - he was oblivious to Ramona pursuing him and was shocked by the kiss and didn't participate. Leonard, well, that's another story.

Actually, we don't know the full Leonard story.  For all we know, Leonard reacted as surprised as Sheldon.  

[No Regrets]

The thing is this: our perspective doesn't matter. I haven't watched it (nor am I going to), but even IF the kiss was too long, even IF Sheldon was shown to maybe flirt a little with Ramona, this is not what the writers intend to come across. From their perspective, Sheldon didn't do anything wrong, so don't expect any drama to stem from this. There won't be any. (Yay for the Shamy fans! You know I was rooting for ya'll.)

[SRAM]

2 minutes ago, No Regrets said:

The thing is this: our perspective doesn't matter. I haven't watched it (nor am I going to), but even IF the kiss was too long, even IF Sheldon was shown to maybe flirt a little with Ramona, this is not what the writers intend to come across. From their perspective, Sheldon didn't do anything wrong, so don't expect any drama to stem from this. There won't be any. (Yay for the Shamy fans! You know I was rooting for ya'll.)

Bottom line that is true, Steve said Sheldon didn't cheat and Leonard did.  

[Judith]

2 minutes ago, Tensor said:

Actually, we don't know the full Leonard story.  For all we know, Leonard reacted as surprised as Sheldon.  

Actually, we know enough from Leonard's words that he participated in the kiss and couldn't have reacted like Sheldon.

I'll sit here (or not...definitely not) while you go dig up the dialogues.

[3ku11]

1 minute ago, SRAM said:

Bottom line that is true, Steve said Sheldon didn't cheat and Leonard did.  

But that is the point. Intention. The writers intended to make Leonard look bad. And they intended to well like Moloro said make Sheldon look like an innocent bystander. 

[legacy99]

That's a bit difficult to happen since in Sheldon's mind his only option has always been Amy and he's never strayed away from her - he was oblivious to Ramona pursuing him and was shocked by the kiss and didn't participate. Leonard, well, that's another story.

We all know Sheldon is innocent because he doesn't know a lot about relationships but he does feel free to give his relationship advise to the other couples because be knows so much about relationships

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[Gbb]

Not the face of a man who is participating in a kiss. 

 

[jenafan]

5 minutes ago, Tensor said:

Actually, we don't know the full Leonard story.  For all we know, Leonard reacted as surprised as Sheldon.  

I agree.  However, to me, having Leonard comment about it not being good and feeling bad for chipping Mandy's tooth is why I have a difficult time dismissing his situation as coersion.

[3ku11]

1 minute ago, Judith said:

Actually, we know enough from Leonard's words that he participated in the kiss and couldn't have reacted like Sheldon.

I'll sit here (or not...definitely not) while you go dig up the dialogues.

Sheldon also flirted. And took part in a long kiss. Leonard was also drunk. Sheldon was not. 

1 minute ago, Gbb said:

Not the face of a man who is participating in a kiss. 

 

Well that was to be expected, seeing that is not Amy. Would you expect him to be like oh yes familiar kiss lol. That said though. The kiss still went on alot beyond that initial reaction. 

[Gbb]

6 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

Well that was to be expected, seeing that is not Amy. Would you expect him to be like oh yes familiar kiss lol. That said though. The kiss still went on alot beyond that initial reaction. 

His face is pretty much the same at the end of the kiss too. 

 

He seems to be thinking, "I wonder when the next flight to Princeton leaves?"

Edited May 12, 2017 by Gbb

[Tensor]

7 minutes ago, Judith said:

Actually, we know enough from Leonard's words that he participated in the kiss and couldn't have reacted like Sheldon.

I'll sit here (or not...definitely not) while you go dig up the dialogues.

I would expect the person making the claim to dig up the dialog.  All he said was there was kissing.  Nothing about how much, how deep, how anything, except for chipping her tooth.  That could mean, as she was going in for the kiss, their teeth collided, chipped her tooth, and that was the end of the kiss.  If you have something more comprehensive, by all means, let's see it.  

[JE7]

If young sheldon does well i bet we get a few more spinoffs....

Raj will start his own web show with Bernie as cohost and Howard as technical producer, and Stuart can move to LA to teach at an art school with lots of wacky student hijinks 

Edited May 12, 2017 by JE7

[Tensor]

1 minute ago, JE7 said:

If young sheldon does well i bet ee get a few more spinoffs....

Raj will start his own web show with Bernie as cohost and Howard as technical priducer, and Stuart can move to LA to teach at an art school with lots of wacky student hijinks 

And Leonard and Penny can take a three hour tour, and get marooned on their own, non-kitchen, island.  

[legacy99]

If Sheldon didn't think he did something wrong why did he go see Amy

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[Chiany]

20 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

I'm not a movie person so I don't know Disclosure. In my case I wouldn't have gotten myself in that situation of a woman manhandling my goods. If I did however to answer the question really isn't or but a both. I would think I cheated simply because I allowed my self to be taken advantage of. What I said originally it stretched the believability factor that Sheldon was clueless I can play along with that (even through the swimming) but I can't get past the kiss. As others have stated even pro Sheldon posters admitted it was a fairly long kiss. He showed  no sign of stopping or was not repulsed with her actions.

Did you see the look in Sheldons eyes? That was clearly a man seducing a woman for days and enjoying the kiss

/Sarcasm off

[JE7]

Just now, Tensor said:

And Leonard and Penny can take a three hour tour, and get marooned on their own, non-kitchen, island.  

Never to be seen or heard from again...

[vonmar]

25 minutes ago, Tensor said:

Or, it could simply be her opinion of what she thinks, Steve thinks of the whole thing.    I have no idea as to what is happening on the set, but No Regrets comment pretty much agree with what I think is Steve's thinking, based on what I've seen on the TV screen.  

"Allow me to translate this for you" on a quote from an article I posted without comment is is pretty clear.  

[Chiany]

4 minutes ago, legacy99 said:

If Sheldon didn't think he did something wrong why did he go see Amy

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There are many other reasons why he went to see Amy, the only right one is that he missed his future wife and wants to put a ring on it.

[Tensor]

1 minute ago, vonmar said:

"Allow me to translate this for you" on a quote from an article I posted without comment is is pretty clear.  

I've seen the phrase, "Let me translate that for you" used in a general sense, as a lead in to make a point.  When used like this, it's not generally directed at an individual.  At least that's the meaning I took from it.  You are free to take it differently.  

[Judith]

8 minutes ago, Tensor said:

I would expect the person making the claim to dig up the dialog.  All he said was there was kissing.  Nothing about how much, how deep, how anything, except for chipping her tooth.  That could mean, as she was going in for the kiss, their teeth collided, chipped her tooth, and that was the end of the kiss.  If you have something more comprehensive, by all means, let's see it.  

I had everything Leonard has said about the kiss in mind when I posted my opinion and I feel very confident about it. I have zero desire to talk about this with you so you'll have to make do with my previous post.

[legacy99]

There are many other reasons why he went to see Amy, the only right one is that he missed his future wife and wants to put a ring on it.

If he's that much in love he should have ask before she went to Princeton it would have been more romantic but i guess Sheldon wouldn't have looked so desperate and innocent

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[Nogravitasatall]

29 minutes ago, Judith said:

That's a bit difficult to happen since in Sheldon's mind his only option has always been Amy and he's never strayed away from her - he was oblivious to Ramona pursuing him and was shocked by the kiss and didn't participate. Leonard, well, that's another story.

You're reading Sheldon's mind now? Well ok. 

I've got my aluminium hat on so I can't.