[Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10

[Tensor]

2 hours ago, Capt. Hilts said:

Don't get me started on military [naval] films where they don't even know when to have their hats on or off.

How about when they have the 26 year old hero as a captain and then the grey haired 53 year old as a ensign?

[Capt. Hilts]

1 hour ago, JohnPhD said:

1024 highlighted something that I think could be done better. In most sitcoms you have to have characters being nosey/ interfering about each others' lives to an extent that wouldn't be acceptable IRL, but sometimes as in this ep it goes too far. The other characters could surely have considered that if Sheldon is mature enough to decide that what he feels for Amy is what normal adults mean by "love", and to live with her, then he's also capable of deciding for himself whether he might prefer a fling (and perhaps more) with a woman with a modicum of sex appeal. It's not relevant what would be right, or what would be "cheating" - I'm just saying that Sheldon should have been left to handle the situation by himself (which as it turned out he did), and the rest missed a good opportunity to mind their own damn business.  Surely they can allow Sheldon  free will?

Incidentally, 1024 changed the past. In 208 The Cooper-Nowitzki theorem, Ramona's interest in Sheldon didn't appear to be sexual (and I assume that was what was intended); but now it appears she must have been all along.

But he's not a 'normal' adult.  He's on the spectrum.

I agree Ramona's interest in him did not seem to be romantic in the original episode, but it was flirty.

[Die Zimtzicke]

On 5/17/2017 at 10:26 PM, djsurrey said:

Perhaps, but what they do seem to know is how to make people laugh and wanta watch TBBT. I think if they viewed continuity as important they would be more careful about it. They are competent in what they are doing or most of us would not be here.

No, just no. Scads of people are saying it's not funny, and the fact that they changed the description from a comedy to a romantic comedy says a lot, to me at least.

Continuity IS important  at least to hard core fans. I think they will find that out with their Young Sheldon series. I assume they expect Big Bang Theory fans to flock to it, but that's not going to happen if it's a totally different story than they have put out in the past and I already thought that when I saw Sheldon with his father in the preview. I like the actor well enough, but he's not what I expected of George Cooper.

On 5/17/2017 at 10:51 PM, Carlos said:

The writers were competent. I don't think they longer are. I'm here because I love the characters, and TBH, lately, because I like the people here (well... most of them anyway) and I like the exchange of ideas and opinions. I prefer being here than watching the show nowadays.

YES! You said that much better than I did. Thank you.

[Die Zimtzicke]

16 hours ago, April said:

Because, quite frankly, the actors don't remember every line or continuity detail as much as we do. They don't watch the show and sometimes they don't even know which scene or what line actually made the cut. They learn their scripts one week and forget most about it when they have to learn the next one. Remembering what they said 8 years ago is a stretch for pretty much anyone. I remember 8 years ago I was still in university but I couldn't even tell you what courses I had at that time without looking them up.

Again, as has been said often, it's just a job to them. They do what is asked of them and get paid. I think some fans believe the actors care more about their characters than they do.

 

8 hours ago, Nogravitasatall said:

Amy may represent a population that hasn't been greatly featured. I don't want to step on that so much as regret that that stepped on the thing that I wanted. 

Probably. I have thought this all along. Most nerds in shows are guys.

[djsurrey]

1 hour ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

Continuity IS important  at least to hard core fans.

Apparently the lack of continuity in TBBT has not been that big a deal compared to other factors. \After all it has done well compared to the competition.

1 hour ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I think they will find that out...

These writers and producers are not inexperienced noobs.

[joyceraye]

18 hours ago, Capt. Hilts said:

 

Don't get me started on military [naval] films where they don't even know when to have their hats on or off.

Not to mention not knowing how to pronounce the first syllable of 'lieutenant' in the navy or whether The Loyal Toast is made standing or sitting.These things are very easily checked, so why aren't they ? Considering how much of our money goes into paying writers and directors it's jolly annoying when they don't bother. It makes me wonder what else is wrong. I've watched two programmes in the last month in which characters who should know better believe the royal family are paid, and by the taxpayer, no less. In fact all the crown's income goes into our country's treasury and parliament votes how much the crown gets back towards travel expenses and entertaining visiting heads of state and the likes of Kunal Nayyar. Newspaper headlines delight in calling it a 'pay rise' whenever it goes up. When I watch nonsense I wish I could get some of my TV tax (aka the licence fee) back. You'd think Tim Piggot-Smith, playing Charles III, would know the monarch doesn't actually sign bills into law. Perhaps he did, OTOH, since the whole play was about a quarrel with the Prime Minister when the king refused to sign one. The scriptwriter clearly thought it happened since the PM told the king his mother had signed everything whether she liked it or not. The Parliamentary Channel is free of charge for everybody. Last time I watched the procedure known as The Royal Assent, the final stage of the passage of a bill through parliament, a group of gentlemen in gowns and wigs were there. One of them would say, 'La reine le veult' and bingo bango we had a new law. Not a tiara or a flat handbag in sight. Her Majesty is generally acknowledged to be the best constitutional scholar there is. Apart from the whole premise of the story being crap, it was interestingly done in Shakespearean style.  Maybe it would have taken too much courage to refuse to say the words or to turn down the script. Many actors take TV roles so they can afford to do a play in a theatre later, which they say doesn't pay much, or perhaps act in a low-budget film.

Edited May 20, 2017 by joyceraye
I retyped what I could remember saying the first time. It never reached the forum so wasn't hidden.

[Nogravitasatall]

2 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

Probably. I have thought this all along. Most nerds in shows are guys.

Well, if there is a peak Shamy coming, unless it takes two years to get there, the writers could take some time off in s11-12 from being so affirmative - if that is what they are doing - and give L/P less of a knocking and more muscular attention.

However, and I look forward to the correction/belting, I suspect that Amy is a supporting character and she is there because they wanted a twist with a SheldonXX, at one stage, to exploit SheldonXY. They may not have thought of reaching a new audience segment - they just had a lucky accident of casting. So the affirmation of a different type is incidental and fortuitous.

Objectively I can understand the thrill of having a relatable screen character. I just wish they had time to do all stories justice. Or did my selfish favourites better service.  

[djsurrey]

4 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

No, just no. Scads of people are saying it's not funny, and the fact that they changed the description from a comedy to a romantic comedy says a lot, to me at least.

There have always been lots of people who have not found it funny. 

Who has changed the "description from comedy to romantic comedy"? Odd. As far as I know it is just a sitcom.

[3ku11]

To me they have changed it from a comedy to a mediocre soap opera. But that is neither here or their . 

So we want more creativity from the writers next season? Ha! Good Luck my Friends . The Showrunners (Moloro) have been sitting on their lorrals for Four seasons now. Do you really think after being complacent for Four Seasons. They well suddenly jump back into life. Like a Car Battery being volted with 350Z. And suddenly write the most creative season, since Season 6? Well I can only hope. But I fear more phoning it in. Beyond our Lord and Master Sheldon Lee Cooper..

Edited May 20, 2017 by 3ku11

[djsurrey]

21 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

To me they have changed it from a comedy to a mediocre soap opera. But that is neither here or their . 

So we want more creativity from the writers next season? Ha! Good Luck my Friends . The Showrunners (Moloro) have been sitting on their lorrals for Four seasons now. Do you really think after being complacent for Four Seasons. They well suddenly jump back into life. Like a Car Battery being volted with 350Z. And suddenly write the most creative season, since Season 6? Well I can only hope. But I fear more phoning it in. Beyond our Lord and Master Sheldon Lee Cooper..

They seem creative to me...

[Carlos]

4 hours ago, djsurrey said:

Apparently the lack of continuity in TBBT has not been that big a deal compared to other factors. \After all it has done well compared to the competition.

These writers and producers are not inexperienced noobs.

But they are not infallible either.

47 minutes ago, djsurrey said:

They seem creative to me...

Bernadette's puppet is funny. Sheldon on stilts is sort of pathetic (to me).

[djsurrey]

39 minutes ago, Carlos said:

Bernadette's puppet is funny. Sheldon on stilts is sort of pathetic (to me).

...as a dream sequence in a tag?

Edited May 20, 2017 by djsurrey

[Tensor]

22 minutes ago, djsurrey said:

...as a dream sequence in a tag?

Yep. 

[bfm]

2 hours ago, djsurrey said:

There have always been lots of people who have not found it funny. 

Who has changed the "description from comedy to romantic comedy"? Odd. As far as I know it is just a sitcom.

Yes, but lots of people who found it hillarious now find it much less funny or not funny at all.

[djsurrey]

15 minutes ago, bfm said:

Yes, but lots of people who found it hillarious now find it much less funny or not funny at all.

I don't find that new either. I have found I like episodes others don't and am disappointed with episodes that others love. There has always been a big diversity in the fans.

Example of something I liked that some did not...

 

Edited May 20, 2017 by djsurrey

[bfm]

34 minutes ago, djsurrey said:

I don't find that new either. I have found I like episodes others don't and am disappointed with episodes that others love. There has always been a big diversity in the fans.

Example of something I liked that some did not...

 

I think for some it's much beyond not liking some episodes and that it wasn't that bad in season 1 through 7.

[April]

8 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

Again, as has been said often, it's just a job to them. They do what is asked of them and get paid. I think some fans believe the actors care more about their characters than they do.

Oh I don't doubt that they care about their characters. But I doubt that this care expresses itself by them knowing literally everything they've ever said on the show. That goes way beyond "care" and taps right into the kind of "obsession" you'd usually only find in hardcore fans.

When the actors describe how they care about their characters it's usually more along the lines of discussing their motives and progression and certain acting choices. Stuff like that.

[joyceraye]

11 hours ago, djsurrey said:

There have always been lots of people who have not found it funny. 

Who has changed the "description from comedy to romantic comedy"? Odd. As far as I know it is just a sitcom.

The site from where I download it about ten minutes after it's been shown in the US has listed TBBT as a  'comedy romance' since the site was set up nearly seven years ago when season three was being made and broadcast. I didn't notice how it was listed elsewhere before that. This week one of the uploaders has called it a 'comedy drama' for the first time.

[serena_1995]

11 hours ago, djsurrey said:

...as a dream sequence in a tag?

one TAG related dream sequence I felt was quiet funny was the one with the Morlocks eating Sheldon  and Sheldon screams "Leonarddddddddd !!!!".

It was not just a dream. It was a dream inside a dream !  

[djsurrey]

3 hours ago, serena_1995 said:

one TAG related dream sequence I felt was quiet funny was the one with the Morlocks eating Sheldon  and Sheldon screams "Leonarddddddddd !!!!".

It was not just a dream. It was a dream inside a dream !  

 

My favourite  was the the mitosis tag when Sheldon splits in two. I think TBBT has a long tradition of dream tag scenes and other dream sequences peppered here and there.

[3ku11]

9 hours ago, joyceraye said:

The site from where I download it about ten minutes after it's been shown in the US has listed TBBT as a  'comedy romance' since the site was set up nearly seven years ago when season three was being made and broadcast. I didn't notice how it was listed elsewhere before that. This week one of the uploaders has called it a 'comedy drama' for the first time.

I was making an off the cuff comments. How the tone of the show has shifted from "Light hearted and Fluffy". To almost a Melodrama. I am well aware the format is still a "sitcom". But the writing in recent seasons has told a different story. 

[djsurrey]

9 hours ago, joyceraye said:

The site from where I download it about ten minutes after it's been shown in the US has listed TBBT as a  'comedy romance' since the site was set up nearly seven years ago when season three was being made and broadcast. I didn't notice how it was listed elsewhere before that. This week one of the uploaders has called it a 'comedy drama' for the first time.

Well the warnerbrothers site still calls it a sitcom!

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https://www.warnerbros.com/tv/big-bang-theory

THE BIG BANG THEORY: SEASON 10

Original Broadcast Date: September 24, 2007

Leonard and Sheldon are brilliant physicists...

Genre: Comedy, Sitcom

My cable provider also lists it as a sitcom.

[Jonny]

1 minute ago, djsurrey said:

Well the warnerbrothers site still calls it a sitcom!

My cable provider also lists it as a sitcom.

Still a sitcom, still a comedy about life. Life changes, it's fluid and this show has reflected that.

[djsurrey]

59 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

How the tone of the show has shifted from "Light hearted and Fluffy". To almost a Melodrama. I am well aware the format is still a "sitcom". But the writing in recent seasons has told a different story. 

There is a long history of drama in sitcoms. TBBT is still relatively light and does not deal with big issues like others have.
 

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The show broke ground in its depiction of issues previously considered unsuitable for a U.S. network television comedy, such as racism, homosexuality, women's liberation, rape, religion, miscarriage, abortion, breast cancer, the Vietnam War, menopause, and impotence. Through depicting these controversial issues, the series became arguably one of television's most influential comedic programs, as it injected the sitcom format with more dramatic moments and realistic, topical conflicts.^[2]

from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_in_the_Family 

example (from All in the Family)

 

Edited May 21, 2017 by djsurrey

[joyceraye]

13 minutes ago, djsurrey said:

Well the warnerbrothers site still calls it a sitcom!

My cable provider also lists it as a sitcom.

And they should know ! So many of the sits are rom, to me it doesn't matter. I laugh anyway. What drew me in in the first place was Leslie Winkle using her lab equipment to freeze the banana for her breakfast cereal.