wowbagger Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) 48 minutes ago, A.D.A. said: Couldn't quote this enough. Additionally, I really dislike how every single one of Sheldon's quirks needs some sort of sob story attached to it now. I find it hard to find him funny when all his running gags are apparently just manifestations of his deeply troubled childhood which I am presented with in heartfelt Emotional Moment scenes. So... am I supposed to feel sorry for him now everytime he knocks on a door? Because presenting it as a Serious Issue tells me that I should; but I know that's not what next week's writers will want when they construct a joke around the knocking ritual. But then again, Penny is taking medication now, and we never heard of that again, either. TBBT used to be fairly good at wandering the line of staying funny and still garnering sympathy for the characters; Leonard's childhood seemed genuinely abusive in the first seasons, but it was still funny in kind of a horrible way because they played it for laughs with his dry jokes about it. Much like Penny's stories about her meth-cooking brother, it was dark-ish humor, but it was clearly meant to get laughs. I think maybe dramedy just isn't for me. My suspension of disbelief cannot cope with the dissonance that I'm supposed to laugh at the very things that are explicitly presented as Dramatic and Serious in other episodes (and no, I haven't seen this one yet, but they've done this with Sheldon like 12 times now). /rant Amen. And I think even calling it 'dramedy' is generous, honestly. This isn't Orange is the New Black where you are explicitly invited to contemplate that awful shit can happen, but people can often greet it with gallows humour. And it is also not like Orange is the New Black (not that the show is perfect, necessarily) where it's understood that human behaviour has multiple causes (class, race, sexuality, past trauma, whatever) that can interact in complex ways. Whereas here, it's 'intimacy fears because DADDY!' It's reductive. It's pretty offensive to people who don't engage in traditional love or sex rituals (whatever those may be) to assume that that sort of behaviour is aberrant and must be explained. With trauma. And it is also just so unnecessary. I'm reminded of Tom Stoppard's Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead (stay with me) where the characters satirise criticisms of Hamlet which boil down to 'Ouf, what's Hamlet got to be so angsty about anyway?' So, Hamlet, your father died, your mother remarried weeks after the funeral, to your father's brother, whom you don't trust, and you might be cut out of the line of succession. What are you so upset about? And in the same way: Sheldon, you, a noted control freak with a range of obsessive-compulsive and misophobic issues, are currently cohabiting with your girlfriend. Who recently dumped you, and with whom you recently reconciled. And with whom you recently had sex for the first time. Which was also the first time either of you had sex at all. Also, you are currently sharing a confined space which is not your home turf. But apart from that, what's upsetting you? If I were Sheldon, I'd likely feel like responding: Pick one of those things. Any one of them would plausibly cause me to freak out, let alone all of them. I do not need heavyweight trauma that has now ensured that I have received scars from the sexuality/hypocrisy of both my parents. This is an embarrassment of riches. How about, instead of having me knock out Jim Parsons's Emmy reel with this trumped-up Freudian garbage, you let me have an actual conversation with my actual girlfriend with whom I am having the actual problem? And before anyone asks: no, my problem is not that this was a Shenny scene. if the Shamy had worked out their grievances with Penny mother-henning from the sidelines, I would have been delighted. And if Sheldon had decanted the Tragic Origins of the Triple Knock to Amy instead of Penny, my eyes would have rolled just as much. My issue is with this whole idea that pity>>>>>respect and understanding. Edited September 21, 2016 by wowbagger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelliayao Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I was wondering if the cohabitation experiment really leads to coitus and it turns out to be a success, it'll be even harder for the writers to change LA back. Because we already know Lenny really enjoy living alone (the dance, changing the lock), and now Shamy likes living together. And with the LA change, coitus and possibly an engagement (I think Molaro says they still remember it?), Bernie giving birth and Lenny in a very good place, happily married, it just feels like this is the last season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serena_1995 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 26 minutes ago, wowbagger said: My favourite Amy is Sheldonesque Amy (hat-tip to @koops), and Amy is never more Sheldonesque than when she is with Leonard. As to Sheldon and Penny: I was a massive fan of their friendship when they were spiky and affectionate-but-antagonistic. I could even understand why people shipped them back then (though I wasn't one of them). Theirs is, as I think I've said elsewhere, the show's true bromance, Shelnard or Rajowitz be damned. Nowadays, their relationship is just sort of...toothless. I seldom get that 'opposites clash, but see merit in each other's point of view' energy off them. And, as if in response, the writers have stepped up their exhortations of what a Magical Speshul Bond they have. The more time they spend telling me that Shenny Are Amazing, Okay, the less time they seem to spend showing what makes then so. A pity. Oh yes, i agree with you. A lot of sharp characterization of the Sheldon/Penny dynamic has slipped off in the last 2 seasons. They have mellowed down, but i still like their scenes together, for some reason-I guess out of habit ? Lol But i think in the latest episode, as much as i would have loved to see Sheldon/Penny have ice cream together, i feel like the cheating conversation should have been between Sheldon/Amy. Just my take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleknee Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Yeah, I could have done with: Sheldon and Penny go out for ice cream. Some discussion of anxiety happens (the fact that he’s not immediately talking to Amy about this creates in-episode tension that rings true with older communication issues). There’s chat about other women. Sheldon’s actions reveal he’s not really interested, and then Sheldon goes home to communicate the motivations of his behavior to the person he’s in a romantic relationship with and trying to establish honesty with. He said he wanted to date other people. I feel like at the very least he owes Amy a thorough explanation. I’m still a bit confused as to whether she actually took this seriously or not – I’m assuming not. I’m too tired to pull at the – does Sheldon really need a historic melodrama to explain/justify his sexual behaviors – thread. Others have done it much better than I could, and I have some mixed feelings. I’m hoping there’s enough meat to the Sheldon/Amy couch conversation to give an air of forthcoming-ness and emotional honesty. Just apologizing, sharing a tooth-brush holder, and hugging probably wouldn’t be enough for me. I’m still optimistic that remaining Shamy communication challenges will be an area of ongoing development this season. You’ve got to set up some obstacles for them to overcome I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, ShamyBabboos said: I'm glad you agree (I'm always nervous sharing my thoughts on here)! I have no issue with Penny as an individual, shes adorable sometimes, but even as Molaro pointed out in an interview-- which I cant find to save my life-- they're (the writers) trying to get Amy more involved because shes currently just popping in and out of other's story lines, which is great that they are trying to do that... but why couldn't they use this argument as an example of that? They could have had Sheldon open up to Amy about the knocking and the cheating father and the fear of becoming like him and create this HUGE moment of vulnerability and growing trust between them. I don't know, just my thought on it. This is a reply to your post but it's also a reply to other things I've read on the forum. I see it this way: Sheldon and Amy just started living together in a small apartment. They're having problems adjusting and they're fighting so much that Lenny decided they should separate them for a while. So Penny drives Sheldon around until he calms down until they end up at an ice-cream parlor with Sheldon calming down and explaining to Penny what happened with Amy. That led to him mentioning his father and the knock thing. Sheldon could have said this to Amy but they had just had a bad fight to the point where L and P decided they should take a break from each other to calm down so I can see why he didn't. So, S and P had a nice conversation, Penny gave him advice and then they went home. For me it's that simple. Penny is a very caring person and has life-experience which Sheldon and Amy severely lack. She also cares a lot about Sheldon and Amy. Sheldon also sees her as a dear friend (and a nanny, I guess) that he can talk about his problems to. It's that simple to me. What I'm trying to say is, Sheldon and Penny can have a friendship where going for an ice-cream/Sheldon talking to Penny about his fight with Amy OR other things/etc is OK and not undermining his relationship with Amy. And it doesn't even sound (from the trs, at least) that what he told her about the knock thing was some big secret that she shouldn't tell anyone (like the one in Solder was that Sheldon had Amy sign a freaking NDA over). It sounds like something that came up with conversation. And tbh, the knocking has always been S/P's thing so it's fitting that he would tell her about it. Scratch that, like I said before, it's because Penny is A Woman™ and also because that's the nature of shipping for many people. As for Molaro saying that Amy is floating in and out of plots and why she wasn't the one to talk with Sheldon, I'll just add this to my explanation above: From the tr it sounds like Amy got enough screen time in this ep. Then there's the fact that the writers had to do sth with Lenny here. Also, S/P are two of the main trio, they're very good friends and they SHOULD have scenes where they are a friend to each other/have fun together/give advice/etc. Just like S/L, H/R, A/S, and even A/L lately. And it's not even like they've had that many scenes in recent seasons anyway for anyone to complain that they're occupying precious screen-time that should be given to Shamy instead (or others, for that matter). Sheldon and Amy have just began (sp?) living together and they're going to need a lot of support from their friends. So many amazing things have happened between them in s10 and we're not even past the first quarter of the season so I just don't see the big deal in Sheldon talking about his fear of hurting Amy with Penny and explaining to her why he feels like that. On the contrary, I'm glad about it. Edited September 21, 2016 by Tensor Comment on other posters removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 10 hours ago, Mislav said: Thank you for the report, Lady in Red! ...snip I didn't care much about the explanation for "knocking three times" thing... I always assumed that it was just a part of Sheldon's OCD, without some rational concern behind it. I didn't really like it as an explanation for Sheldon's (apparently past) disdain of sex either, Sheldon being afraid of germs was enough of an explanation... ... midichlorians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelliayao Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 2 hours ago, Judith said: This is a reply to your post but it's also a reply to other things I've read on the forum. I see it this way: Sheldon and Amy just started living together in a small apartment. They're having problems adjusting and they're fighting so much that Lenny decided they should separate them for a while. So Penny drives Sheldon around until he calms down until they end up at an ice-cream parlor with Sheldon calming down and explaining to Penny what happened with Amy. That led to him mentioning his father and the knock thing. Sheldon could have said this to Amy but they had just had a bad fight to the point where L and P decided they should take a break from each other to calm down so I can see why he didn't. So, S and P had a nice conversation, Penny gave him advice and then they went home. For me it's that simple. Penny is a very caring person and has life-experience which Sheldon and Amy severely lack. She also cares a lot about Sheldon and Amy. Sheldon also sees her as a dear friend (and a nanny, I guess) that he can talk about his problems to. It's that simple to me. What I'm trying to say is, Sheldon and Penny can have a friendship where going for an ice-cream/Sheldon talking to Penny about his fight with Amy OR other things/etc is OK and not undermining his relationship with Amy. And it doesn't even sound (from the trs, at least) that what he told her about the knock thing was some big secret that she shouldn't tell anyone (like the one in Solder was that Sheldon had Amy sign a freaking NDA over). It sounds like something that came up with conversation. And tbh, the knocking has always been S/P's thing so it's fitting that he would tell her about it. Scratch that, like I said before, it's because Penny is A Woman™ and also because that's the nature of shipping for many people. As for Molaro saying that Amy is floating in and out of plots and why she wasn't the one to talk with Sheldon, I'll just add this to my explanation above: From the tr it sounds like Amy got enough screen time in this ep. Then there's the fact that the writers had to do sth with Lenny here. Also, S/P are two of the main trio, they're very good friends and they SHOULD have scenes where they are a friend to each other/have fun together/give advice/etc. Just like S/L, H/R, A/S, and even A/L lately. And it's not even like they've had that many scenes in recent seasons anyway for anyone to complain that they're occupying precious screen-time that should be given to Shamy instead (or others, for that matter). Sheldon and Amy have just began (sp?) living together and they're going to need a lot of support from their friends. So many amazing things have happened between them in s10 and we're not even past the first quarter of the season so I just don't see the big deal in Sheldon talking about his fear of hurting Amy with Penny and explaining to her why he feels like that. On the contrary, I'm glad about it. I think it's very reasonable that Penny takes Sheldon out and calms him down. I don't see this episode as an example of them bonding because it's not about Penny at all. The whole conversation is about Sheldon and his struggles and Amy. So really Penny's just a nanny here. However, what I want is for Sheldon to explain to Amy how he feels when they get home. Because he says some really hurtful things before he leaves (dating other woman), I would assume Amy wants to know the reasons. Maybe Amy can tell him too that of course she admires him for his mind. An honest conversation is what is lacking between Shamy. Not everything can be resolved by a hug. But I understand since Sheldon and Penny's conversation already takes place on screen, it's unrealistic for him to repeat the same things to Amy on screen again. Maybe that's why some of the Shamy fans want some of the Shenny scenes in this episode to be between Shamy. Since Sheldon can only say those things on screen once, it would make more sense that he says them to Amy. As for romantic Shenny indications, as often as I suspect the writers drop them to please Shenny shippers, this episode is certainly not one of the indications. Because we now know Sheldon has sexual desires yet he still sees Penny as a nanny and nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, camelliayao said: I think it's very reasonable that Penny takes Sheldon out and calms him down. I don't see this episode as an example of them bonding because it's not about Penny at all. The whole conversation is about Sheldon and his struggles and Amy. So really Penny's just a nanny here. However, what I want is for Sheldon to explain to Amy how he feels when they get home. Because he says some really hurtful things before he leaves (dating other woman), I would assume Amy wants to know the reasons. Maybe Amy can tell him too that of course she admires him for his mind. An honest conversation is what is lacking between Shamy. Not everything can be resolved by a hug. But I understand since Sheldon and Penny's conversation already takes place on screen, it's unrealistic for him to repeat the same things to Amy on screen again. Maybe that's why some of the Shamy fans want some of the Shenny scenes in this episode are between Shamy. Since Sheldon can only say those things on screen once, it would make more sense that he says them to Amy. As for a romantic Shenny indications, as often as I suspect the writers drop them to please Shenny shippers, this episode is certainly not one of the indications. Because we now know Sheldon has sexual desires yet he still sees Penny as a nanny and nothing more. From what understood from the tr when Sheldon and Penny came back to 4a Sheldon sat next to Amy and told her that he didn't mean the things he said. As for Amy telling Sheldon she admires him for his mind (too ), I think Sheldon knows that already. He's just adjusting to living with his girlfriend while both of them are sexually frustrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie3457 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 29 minutes ago, Nogravitasatall said: midichlorians OMG! The answer to everything of course (damn you George Lucas!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelliayao Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Judith said: From what understood from the tr when Sheldon and Penny came back to 4a Sheldon sat next to Amy and told her that he didn't mean the things he said. As for Amy telling Sheldon she admires him for his mind (too ), I think Sheldon knows that already. He's just adjusting to living with his girlfriend while both of them are sexually frustrated. Yeah but if he could add the reasons why he said that, it would be better. I know, right! I think the "For once" line was such a silly line. I will only accept it if Sheldon didn't really mean it. Their relationship is a relationship of mind from the very beginning. I can't believe Sheldon actually complains Amy not admiring his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonmar Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 minute ago, camelliayao said: Yeah but if he could add the reasons why he said that, it would be better. I know, right! I think the "For once" line was such a silly line. I will only accept it if Sheldon didn't really mean it. Their relationship is a relationship of mind from the very beginning. I can't believe Sheldon actually complains Amy not admiring his mind. I think that Sheldon is looking for reasons to deny the way he is feeling by putting the blame on Amy. I think he knows that statement isn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShamyBabboos Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 2 hours ago, Judith said: This is a reply to your post but it's also a reply to other things I've read on the forum. I see it this way: Sheldon and Amy just started living together in a small apartment. They're having problems adjusting and they're fighting so much that Lenny decided they should separate them for a while. So Penny drives Sheldon around until he calms down until they end up at an ice-cream parlor with Sheldon calming down and explaining to Penny what happened with Amy. That led to him mentioning his father and the knock thing. Sheldon could have said this to Amy but they had just had a bad fight to the point where L and P decided they should take a break from each other to calm down so I can see why he didn't. So, S and P had a nice conversation, Penny gave him advice and then they went home. For me it's that simple. Penny is a very caring person and has life-experience which Sheldon and Amy severely lack. She also cares a lot about Sheldon and Amy. Sheldon also sees her as a dear friend (and a nanny, I guess) that he can talk about his problems to. It's that simple to me. What I'm trying to say is, Sheldon and Penny can have a friendship where going for an ice-cream/Sheldon talking to Penny about his fight with Amy OR other things/etc is OK and not undermining his relationship with Amy. And it doesn't even sound (from the trs, at least) that what he told her about the knock thing was some big secret that she shouldn't tell anyone (like the one in Solder was that Sheldon had Amy sign a freaking NDA over). It sounds like that came up with conversation. And tbh, the knocking has always been S/P's thing so it's fitting that he would tell her about it. Scratch that, like I said before, it's because Penny is A Woman™ and also because that's the nature I of shipping for many people. As for Molaro saying that Amy is floating in and out of plots and why she wasn't the one to talk with Sheldon, I'll just add this to my explanation above: From the tr it sounds like Amy got enough screen time in this ep. Then there's the fact that the writers had to do sth with Lenny here. Also, S/P are two of the main trio, they're very good friends and they SHOULD have scenes where they are a friend to each other/have fun together/give advice/etc. Just like S/L, H/R, A/S, and even A/L lately. And it's not even like they've had that many scenes in recent seasons anyway for anyone to complain that they're occupying precious screen-time that should be given to Shamy instead (or others, for that matter). Sheldon and Amy have just began (sp?) living together and they're going to need a lot of support from their friends. So many amazing things have happened between them in s10 and we're not even past the first quarter of the season so I just don't see the big deal in Sheldon talking about his fear of hurting Amy with Penny and explaining to her why he feels like that. On the contrary, I'm glad about it. I never said it undermines their (Shamy's) relationship as a couple. I also never said S/P shouldn't have scenes together either. I'm just indifferent about Penny's involvement in their argument. Why couldn't Sheldon and Penny go out for ice cream while Penny talks him into apologizing? Why did Penny have to be the first to know WHY he acted the way he did when Amy was the one who truly deserved to know? I'm not saying that Sheldon and Penny can't talk alone together anymore, I'm simply saying that there are somethings that Amy deserves to know FIRST before Penny does because it INVOLVES Amy and not Penny. It's just one of those things. I could care less if Sheldon vents to Penny about Amy (about the eyeing him like a piece of meat, etc.), but if the writers want to make true to their word of "we want Amy more involved" then this plot would have been a good start. Why can't Sheldon confide in Amy about this stuff when it's the reason that he hurt her in the first place? Keep in mind, I'm not saying Sheldon can't do that with Penny anymore. On the other hand, I can appreciate that S/P interactions are nostalgic for the show and that Penny is someone that he can trust. So I agree completely with some points that you made! I'm glad at how the episode ended, in fact, I'm happy about the episode overall... Just different strokes for different folks, but I can see your side of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowbagger Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 9 minutes ago, camelliayao said: Their relationship is a relationship of mind from the very beginning. I can't believe Sheldon actually complains Amy not admiring his mind. Well, I can see where that's coming from. I'm not saying it's entirely justified, but in the guy's defence, coitus and physicality has loomed tiresomely large over the Shamy's relationship since Season Six. There have been occasional breaks where the two goofed off and had fun, but of late....well, Amy's compliments have tended to be about Sheldon's body/genitals/sexual prowess, no? And of course she's allowed to enjoy all of those things, but I actually think this is another example of Sheldon making a valid point that the show instantly presents as #LOLClassicSheldon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShamyBabboos Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, wowbagger said: Well, I can see where that's coming from. I'm not saying it's entirely justified, but in the guy's defence, coitus and physicality has loomed tiresomely large over the Shamy's relationship since Season Six. There have been occasional breaks where the two goofed off and had fun, but of late....well, Amy's compliments have tended to be about Sheldon's body/genitals/sexual prowess, no? And of course she's allowed to enjoy all of those things, but I actually think this is another example of Sheldon making a valid point that the show instantly presents as #LOLClassicSheldon. In Amy's defense, I'd gawk too if my nerdy boyfriend had muscles like that under his comic character shirts when he seemingly doesn't go to the gym. She might just be gawking (studying) to figure out that muscle mystery LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 11 minutes ago, camelliayao said: Yeah but if he could add the reasons why he said that, it would be better. I know, right! I think the "For once" line was such a silly line. I will only accept it if Sheldon didn't really mean it. Their relationship is a relationship of mind from the very beginning. I can't believe Sheldon actually complains Amy not admiring his mind. It would certainly be better. We'll have to wait and see how it will play out. It would be nice for Amy to know that Sheldon said these things cause he doesn't want to hurt her (Sheldon's thinking is always so twisted). If he doesn't then she will probably assume that he said these things out of spite/anger during the fight. I found the "I want her to appreciate me for my mind for once" line funny. It's something that is considered a stereotypically female thing to say. I just find Sheldon being ogled by Amy while getting out of the shower and then being all Holy Virgin about it and feeling underappreciated for what's ~on the inside~ hilarious. To me that's classic Sheldon overeacting and fighting something that in reality he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) 45 minutes ago, ShamyBabboos said: I never said it undermines their (Shamy's) relationship as a couple. I also never said S/P shouldn't have scenes together either. I'm just indifferent about Penny's involvement in their argument. Why couldn't Sheldon and Penny go out for ice cream while Penny talks him into apologizing? Why did Penny have to be the first to know WHY he acted the way he did when Amy was the one who truly deserved to know? I'm not saying that Sheldon and Penny can't talk alone together anymore, I'm simply saying that there are somethings that Amy deserves to know FIRST before Penny does because it INVOLVES Amy and not Penny. It's just one of those things. I could care less if Sheldon vents to Penny about Amy (about the eyeing him like a piece of meat, etc.), but if the writers want to make true to their word of "we want Amy more involved" then this plot would have been a good start. Why can't Sheldon confide in Amy about this stuff when it's the reason that he hurt her in the first place? Keep in mind, I'm not saying Sheldon can't do that with Penny anymore. On the other hand, I can appreciate that S/P interactions are nostalgic for the show and that Penny is someone that he can trust. So I agree completely with some points that you made! I'm glad at how the episode ended, in fact, I'm happy about the episode overall... Just different strokes for different folks, but I can see your side of it. I know you didn't say these things which is why I said in the beginning that this is a reply to other posts too. Maybe I should have been more clear. I'm not sure I would have liked Penny talking Sheldon into apologizing to Amy. Sheldon has been pushed by Lenny to do the right thing enough times already so I think that especially now it's high time he did it by himself. Yes, Amy deserves to know why he acted the way he did. The only answer I can give you to why it was Penny that was informed of this first is what I said in my previous post: she drove Sheldon around to calm him down and when he did they started talking. THEN he got home and they made up. He was still out with Penny when he calmed down and well, they're friends, so naturally they will talk about these things. I understand you take issue with this so we'll just have to agree to disagree. And also we need to remember that we haven't seen the ep yet. I think Amy is doing fine as far as her screen-time is concerned. From the trs it sounds like she was very involved in 10.4 and 10.5. Edited September 21, 2016 by Judith Sorry for double-posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShamyBabboos Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, Judith said: I know you didn't say these things which is why I said in the beginning that this is a reply to other posts too. Maybe I should have been more clear. I'm not sure I would have liked Penny talking Sheldon into apologizing to Amy. Sheldon has been pushed by Lenny to do the right thing enough times already so I think that especially now it's high time he did it by himself. Yes, Amy deserves to know why he acted the way he did. The only answer I can give you to why it was Penny that was informed of this first is what I said in my previous post: she drove Sheldon around to calm him down and when he did they started talking. THEN he got home and they made up. He was still out with Penny when he calmed down and well, they're friends, so naturally they will talk about these things. I understand you take issue with this so we'll just have to agree to disagree. And also we need to remember that we haven't seen the ep yet. I think Amy is doing fine as far as her screen-time is concerned. From the trs it sounds like she was very involved in 10.4 and 10.5. Oh ok! I gotcha now, yeah I do agree that the apologizing thing has been done enough, but I'm just tossing ideas around without thinking LOL. It does sound like she's involved and i should have considered that as well. I'm looking forward to both episodes! Thanks for the civility, btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 17 minutes ago, ShamyBabboos said: Thanks for the civility, btw Don't mention it! We get what we give. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serena_1995 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, ShamyBabboos said: In Amy's defense, I'd gawk too if my nerdy boyfriend had muscles like that under his comic character shirts when he seemingly doesn't go to the gym. She might just be gawking (studying) to figure out that muscle mystery LOL HAHAHA ! LOL ! IRK ? Sheldon's shirts are getting tighter and tighter .He was looking kinda buff in 10.1 and the promo for 10.2 , even though he is supposed to *hate* working out. Edited September 21, 2016 by serena_1995 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonmar Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, serena_1995 said: HAHAHA ! LOL ! IRK ? Sheldon's shirts are getting tighter and tighter .He was looking kinda buff in 10.1 and the promo for 10.2 , even though he is supposed to *hate* working out. Coming back from summer hiatus, I can hear wardrobe screaming at him.....thousands of dollars in shirts, down the drain. God dammit Jim, what are we supposed to do with you now! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelliayao Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 hour ago, wowbagger said: Well, I can see where that's coming from. I'm not saying it's entirely justified, but in the guy's defence, coitus and physicality has loomed tiresomely large over the Shamy's relationship since Season Six. There have been occasional breaks where the two goofed off and had fun, but of late....well, Amy's compliments have tended to be about Sheldon's body/genitals/sexual prowess, no? And of course she's allowed to enjoy all of those things, but I actually think this is another example of Sheldon making a valid point that the show instantly presents as #LOLClassicSheldon. Honestly I don't remember Amy compliments Sheldon's mind much before season six either... I think Shamy just don't do the compliment thing very often. IMO there's a difference between what the show has showed us on screen and what actually happens between Shamy off screen. We audience may be seeing Shamy dealing with the physical part of their relationship more for the past few seasons, but we are only shown a small part of their everyday life. Sheldon, on the other hand, spends time with Amy all the time and he should know better than anyone what they do together. And I'm sure a large part of their time together involves "mind" like intellectual conversations and science. Besides, what else should Amy compliment when Sheldon comes out of shower? "Oh Sheldon, your mind is so beautiful when you're naked. I can see you winning a Nobel prize without your clothes on"? So yeah I'll take that line as Sheldon overreacting because that's the only way it makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 3 hours ago, camelliayao said: I was wondering if the cohabitation experiment really leads to coitus and it turns out to be a success, it'll be even harder for the writers to change LA back. Because we already know Lenny really enjoy living alone (the dance, changing the lock), and now Shamy likes living together. And with the LA change, coitus and possibly an engagement (I think Molaro says they still remember it?), Bernie giving birth and Lenny in a very good place, happily married, it just feels like this is the last season... I can only hope it's the last season. The Finale could be the Shamy wedding and Penny finding out she's pregnant. It also feels anymore seasons we will be comparing it to TAAHM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajond Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 13 hours ago, Mislav said: Thank you for the report, Lady in Red! om what I've rea I'm glad that Sheldon and Amy are slowly moving forward with the living arrangement thing, and I especially liked the last scene. Lenny supporting them sounds nice and, fr d, those interactions probably won't seem forced (unlike in that awful season seven episode). I don't mind Sheldon noticing pretty girls, though I think the way they revealed it was... silly? I didn't care much about the explanation for "knocking three times" thing... I always assumed that it was just a part of Sheldon's OCD, without some rational concern behind it. I didn't really like it as an explanation for Sheldon's (apparently past) disdain of sex either, Sheldon being afraid of germs was enough of an explanation... Raj's storyline sounds boring and once again it will go nowhere, and Stuart will be just creepy, not a fan of that one. Still, this could be a somewhat good episode. Actually the triple knocking thing is another example of sloppy writing as Sheldon did a normal knock until halfway through S1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joyceraye Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) 22 minutes ago, camelliayao said: 22 minutes ago, camelliayao said: Besides, what else should Amy compliment when Sheldon comes out of shower? "Oh Sheldon, your mind is so beautiful when you're naked. I can see you winning a Nobel prize without your clothes on"? So yeah I'll take that line as Sheldon overreacting because that's the only way it makes sense to me. 22 minutes ago, camelliayao said: . Besides, what else should Amy compliment when Sheldon comes out of shower? "Oh Sheldon, your mind is so beautiful when you're naked. I can see you winning a Nobel prize without your clothes on"? So yeah I'll take that line as Sheldon overreacting because that's the only way it makes sense to me. If Sheldon doesn't want to be stared at, why doesn't he wrap himself in a towel like they usually do in TV shows and movies ? We all know why not. He likes having his genitals appreciated. Cam, you creased me up. BTW The quoting went crackers Edited September 22, 2016 by joyceraye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShamyBabboos Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 20 minutes ago, joyceraye said: If Sheldon doesn't want to be stared at, why doesn't he wrap himself in a towel like they usually do in TV shows and movies ? We all know why not. He likes having his genitals appreciated. Cam, you creased me up. BTW The quoting went crackers Or he maybe was using a towel but maybe put it super low on his hips so Amy can still get an eye full without being too explicit lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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