Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 10

[Tenji]

I saw on Tumblr that there is still no coitus [emoji80] but that the episode was another solid and funny one.

[Judith]

5 minutes ago, Tenji said:

I saw on Tumblr that there is still no coitus but that the episode was another solid and funny one.

Yeah...I also saw that all the circus in 10.8 was because she was ovulating and I don't know how I feel about that. The writers are determined not to have him just want her. Then no coitus so who knows?

Sorry but I'm very miffed right now.

Edited November 2, 2016 by Judith

[Tenji]

Yeah...I also saw that all the circus in 10.8 was because she was ovulating and I don't know how I feel about that. The writers are determined not to have him just want her. Then no coitus so who knows?
Sorry but I'm very miffed right now.

Yeah... I was really hoping that they would have them do it again before the year anniversary. It seems such a shame not to have them being more intimate with each other - the once a year thing doesn't make sense to me: if he liked it (which he said he did), if he doesn't mind snuggling and kissing her in bed and also wanted to have sex to get her pregnant then it stands to reason they'd do it again!!!

[mirs1]

10 minutes ago, Judith said:

Yeah...I also saw that all the circus in 10.8 was because she was ovulating and I don't know how I feel about that. The writers are determined not to have him just want her. Then no coitus so who knows?

Sorry but I'm very miffed right now.

The idea of monitoring her cycle is very Sheldonesque, though...The TR was clear about him wanting a baby as the instigator of everything, I just didn't understand how he was sure to get one if they had sex that night, now it's clearer. I'm not disappointed by 10.8, even with this added information, but TBH I was so hoping the sweeps would have ended with a bang, if you know what I mean, that was a bummer!

[Judith]

5 minutes ago, Tenji said:

Yeah... I was really hoping that they would have them do it again before the year anniversary. It seems such a shame not to have them being more intimate with each other - the once a year thing doesn't make sense to me: if he liked it (which he said he did), if he doesn't mind snuggling and kissing her in bed and also wanted to have sex to get her pregnant then it stands to reason they'd do it again!!!

It looks like 10x11 will be their second time...That is, if we're lucky. The writers have dragged this out so much...Since this is a positivity thread though I'll stop here.

6 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

The idea of monitoring her cycle is very Sheldonesque, though...The TR was clear about him wanting a baby as the instigator of everything, I just didn't understand how he was sure to get one if they had sex that night, now it's clearer. I'm not disappointed by 10.8, even with this added information, but TBH I was so hoping the sweeps would have ended with a bang, if you know what I mean, that was a bummer!

I didn't realise from the tr that he was serious about the baby part. I hope I'll feel better when I watch it.

Yes, I was hoping for that too. I'm starting to wonder if there will ever be an end to this *ominous music*

Edited November 2, 2016 by Judith

[A Shamy gal]

6 minutes ago, Judith said:

It looks like 10x11 will be their second time...That is, if we're lucky. The writers have dragged this out so much...Since this is a positivity thread though I'll stop here.

Well they may not do it again until 10x11, but at the moment they are still months behind in their timeframe.  So it could still be before the year anniversary.  In fact the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that's what they're going to.  They would still keep to the once a year thing, but not.

[Judith]

4 minutes ago, A Shamy gal said:

Well they may not do it again until 10x11, but at the moment they are still months behind in their timeframe.  So it could still be before the year anniversary.  In fact the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that's what they're going to.  They would still keep to the once a year thing, but not.

Yes I know that, it's just that when 9x11 came out I didn't think we'd have to wait a whole year for this. Anyway.

Edited November 2, 2016 by Judith

[A Shamy gal]

1 minute ago, Judith said:

Yes I know that, it's just that when 9x11 came out I didn't think we'd have to wait a whole year for this. Anyway

I actually think they didn't give much thought to it at the time, other than it just seemed a Sheldon thing to do and was funny.  It was only after they thought, oh hell what are we going to do about that?

18 minutes ago, Judith said:

It looks like 10x11 will be their second time...That is, if we're lucky. The writers have dragged this out so much...Since this is a positivity thread though I'll stop here.

I didn't realise from the tr that he was serious about the baby part. I hope I'll feel better when I watch it.

Yes, I was hoping for that too. I'm starting to wonder if there will ever be an end to this *ominous music*

I had a feeling he was being serious, but not why.  It's very Sheldon though.  He gets an idea and that goes all to try to achieve it.  Usually people give in to him, just to shut him up.  And Amy's rejection in this is perfectly understandable.  But really it's just a ploy to drag it out a big longer

[serena_1995]

46 minutes ago, Judith said:

Yeah...I also saw that all the circus in 10.8 was because she was ovulating and I don't know how I feel about that. The writers are determined not to have him just want her. Then no coitus so who knows?

Sorry but I'm very miffed right now.

 

I know, most people speculate whether Sheldon desires Amy or not. But are you sure Amy desires Sheldon too ?  I know the original premise in 10.08 was that Amy was avoiding him because she didn't want a baby, but was hiding the fact that she was turned on by his attempts to seduce, nonetheless. But , from the chat it seems like Amy wasn't turned on by Sheldon at all .  So I am glad they dropped the Sheldon seducing her storyline. Because if Amy is disinterested in sex, why should she be forced to have sex ? Why should Sheldon badger/irritate Amy ? That would be wrong and makes me uncomfortable. 

I have not seen Amy really wanting sex all that much this season. Yes,  Sheldon was turned on by Amy's "surprise" talk in 10.06 before the brunch, and Amy suggested the make out in the argument of 10.04 but  other than that, both are on the same page.

Edited November 2, 2016 by serena_1995

[Judith]

3 minutes ago, A Shamy gal said:

I actually think they didn't give much thought to it at the time, other than it just seemed a Sheldon thing to do and was funny.  It was only after they thought, oh hell what are we going to do about that?

I think they threw that line in on purpose, to build up suspense about it and maybe to have a way out. Right now it looks like it will be a year but not in TBBT time which is good enough. I'm just not feeling very confident right now about how they're going to go about it.

[Radar]

36 minutes ago, Judith said:

Yeah...I also saw that all the circus in 10.8 was because she was ovulating and I don't know how I feel about that. The writers are determined not to have him just want her. Then no coitus so who knows?

Sorry but I'm very miffed right now.

So he really wants to have a baby with Amy... Sorry, but WOW!

Cheer up, guys, because that's a giant step! Plus: Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that mean we will see him acting like that once a month?  Just kidding! ...On the other hand it IS the logical conclusion, isn't it? 

[A Shamy gal]

6 minutes ago, serena_1995 said:

 

I know, most people speculate whether Sheldon desires Amy or not. But are you sure Amy desires Sheldon too ? I know the original premise was that Amy was avoiding him because she didn't want a baby, but was hiding the fact that she was turned on by him, nonetheless. But , from the chat it seems like Amy wasn't turned on by Sheldon at all .  So I am glad they dropped the Sheldon seducing her storyline. Because if Amy is disinterested in sex, why should she be forced to have sex ? Why should Sheldon badger/irritate Amy ? That would be wrong and makes me uncomfortable. 

the impression I got from the chat was she was turned on but didn't want to have a baby.  And now that it's been made clear she was ovulating, that would be why he was trying to seduce her at that time.

Edited November 2, 2016 by A Shamy gal

[Judith]

3 minutes ago, serena_1995 said:

 

I know, most people speculate whether Sheldon desires Amy or not. But are you sure Amy desires Sheldon too ? I know the original premise was that Amy was avoiding him because she didn't want a baby, but was hiding the fact that she was turned on by him, nonetheless. But , from the chat it seems like Amy wasn't turned on by Sheldon at all .  So I am glad they dropped the Sheldon seducing her storyline. Because if Amy is disinterested in sex, why should she be forced to have sex ? Why should Sheldon badger/irritate Amy ? That would be wrong and makes me uncomfortable. 

After Sheldon did that flamenco thing Amy left and said "that was close" which must have meant that he almost succeeded. I think that she does want him.

[A Shamy gal]

6 minutes ago, Radar said:

So he really wants to have a baby with Amy... Sorry, but WOW!

Cheer up, guys, because that's a giant step! Plus: Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that mean we will see him acting like that once a month?  Just kidding! ...On the other hand it IS the logical conclusion, isn't it? 

That was my thought... well actually it was oh their cycles have synced!! 

[Jonny]

Morning all!

Just read the TR thanks to @RJ1013 and I am not sure what to make of it yet to be honest. Sounds like there will be some funny moments but also ones I don't think I will enjoy, Sheldon for example seems a real ass in this one, though I think this episode is really one that you have to see in full before making a complete judgement.

Re-watched the sneak peak scene released last night I found very funny/love the Klingon and Amy's made up language dialogue, especially the Pamy one which is another example of their burgeoning friendship. 

Edited November 2, 2016 by Jonny

[April]

Morning everyone!! Scrambling together some quick Shamy thoughts about 10x09 with a side dish of 10x08:

- "Sheldon is still Sheldon" syndrome strikes again! It's a pity cause we were just getting used to the brisk pace and now the writers are stepping on the breaks again. I had hoped we'd end sweeps with a big bang but as I've speculated a bit ago if they don't do this then they might probably go with 10x11, which may also be when Bernie gives birth. So it's a year later in real time and about 10 months in universe.

- And just to get that clear: I'm more bummed about the real life circumstance of the writers letting us wait a whole year than I am at the in-story way their relationship is framed right now. Cause they are in a good place, all shacked up with nightly snuggles and kisses, and they are both pretty much on equal footing with the no sex thing.

- Anyway, after Penny's con plot this episode marks another item off the SDCC checklist: Revisiting Sheldon's stance on Geology! Which leaves us with the Spockumentary and Flag convention! Fingers crossed, guys!!!

- So then, Sheldon is trying to deal with his jealousy which I guess comes with the not-so-subtle message "You're only hurting yourself!" LOL As a Sheldon plot it's a solid one. Will be hilarious to see his antics.

- I love how they used Jim's "Someone else's success is not your failure!" LMAO

- More juicy details from their night in 9x11 - "But why...? ... Oh that's why!" LOL Oh Shelly!

- A 4A DINNER WITH THE WHOLE GANG!!!! :D

- Sheldon karate chopping Bert after he kinda sorta insulted Amy is sweet and hilarious!

- I really like that they have Hawking on because he never won a Nobel - which is something that Sheldon might also have to deal with as a theoretical physicist. It's almost impossible to get one in that field. Occasionally I stumble over fanfics like "After Sheldon won his 5th Nobel..." and it's such a pet peeve of mine.

- All in all sounds like a fun episode even though I would have liked something different. Oh well!

Other things:

- Love yesterday's sneak peak!! Pamy speaking Ubbi dubbi so fluently is amazing! <3

Edited November 2, 2016 by April

[spidergirl]

Good morning, shamies!

I read the TR made by @RJ1013, that I'd like to thanks again, and I am not sure what to think about some of the scenes. I know that some scenes I will enjoy , others I am not sure, I have to think better about them before a fair julgament.

That bit about the ovulation and Sheldon's tries to seduce Amy. It sounds something  Sheldon would do, about her cycle sync and such but I dont know...

I dont want to ruin the enjoyment around here as I am not very positive about what I read right now.

I'll be back asap to me for  post something that makes sense for you to know what I think about all of shamy most recente info.

[jenafan]

On Sheldon keeping up with Amy's ovulation schedule, I always thought that would be so IC for him to use that as a form of birth control.  It just never occurred to me he'd track it to get her pregnant.  Maybe it was coincidence that her schedule fell at the same time as their skin cell experiment.  Now all his determination to seduce her makes more sense, as well as Amy's refusal to give in to it.  

I think Amy very much wants Sheldon, but she is being reasonable by being practical rather than giving into desire.  

Sheldon, on the other hand is confusing his sexual desire for Amy because he got turned on by their successful lab creation with the desire for immediate procreation.

I think he is still compartmentalizing and coming to terms with where sex fits into his life.  Amy likening Sheldon's reactions to reading Bert's paper with their first night of coitus seemed to indicate that Sheldon may have had some reservations about some of their coital activity while trying to figure it all out.  Nonetheless, when he did and all his questions were answered by the results of pushing through, he found he enjoyed it after all.

So, perhaps Amy agreeing to wait a year for coitus again and seemingly not showing the desire to alter the timelines fits.  Sheldon may have rocked her world, but we really don't know what he put her through, verbally or emotionally, to get there.

Sheldon continues to rehash about the sacrifice he made by giving Amy his virginity and his body.  It was a gift rather then an act of desire, and perhaps Amy did miss the boat by not asking him how he felt or if he was really ready before accepting his gift.

So, to me this makes Amy's initiative to take coitus off the table during the living experiment more meaningful.  Sheldon gave her something very special, and she is giving back by holding to their agreement of a year with no pressure to deviate just because they are under one roof now.  Furthermore, this time she did ask him how he felt before sharing a bed with him.

Does this mean she doesn't want sex with Sheldon?  Not at all, but perhaps the fight to convince Sheldon that what he is resisting is what he really wants is simply more exhausting for her than just agreeing to Sheldon's timeline and being happy for what he does offer with no expectations.

Do I think Sheldon is getting there in learning to accept his desire for Amy?  Yes, I do.  Between the innuendos, his sexual creature surfacing from within, getting horny in the kitchen, letting Amy spoon him in bed, wanting to make a baby, karate chopping Bert; he is almost on board.

In addition, he is discovering the joy in all these things he used to resist such as living together, brunches, friendships with people he once thought were beneath him, Geology research, and Ellen.  It is all because of and for Amy.

So, the next time he engages in coitus, the experience will be different for both of them.  Sheldon will be engaging for the sole desire and enjoyment of it because he has realized he can, and Amy will get more out of it than just the earth quaking around her.  It will be an emotional experience for both of them.  

I think this is the direction the writers are headed, and if we have to wait until Amy's birthday to see that happen, I'm fine with it.

The only thing in the TR that scared me was Amy being told to rethink her life choices, and she went off in the other room to do so.  I hope one of those is not her relationship with Sheldon.

Edited November 2, 2016 by jenafan

[notchinc]

She only went to the kitchen island to rethink her life choices...........................

[spidergirl]

Okay, my thoughts about the Ep 9 tr.

First I 'd like to say I am not dissapointed with what shamy is anchieving in their relationship, I am really happy with where they are right now. The only thing that I didnt like much and it is from ep 8 tr was the Amy 's ovulating and Sheldon trying to seduce her. I bet there were funny scenes to watch , that Sheldon studyng Amy cycle would be something that Sheldon would do but imo it is a bit much, as I dont want Sheldon to want to have coitus with Amy kind of once in a month, for reprodutive meanigs, you know. I am very glad that Amy didnt give in, even she recognize that she was turned on, as she said "It was close". I would love that they have children one day but I want them enjoying first each other emotionatily, physically and not the chance of Amy getting pregnant soon. Not even for Science

What made me turn out a bit about the story of ep 9 were two things that I think I need to watch the scenes carefully on screen for a complete judgement.

One of them was the jealous thing, that seems to included everyone talking about what they have jealousy . Dont get me wrong, but I think they as all friends of each others should feel more secure about things they have and about things they havent after a few years of friendship and also for the age they are. I think it is kind of wasting time in terms of developing storylines putting them talking about "I am jealous of how you looks". These characters are more than taking care of good looks, you know. Makes me cringe a bit to know that Amy still thinks Penny is prettier than her, so she is jealous about Penny. But well, maybe on screen everything makes more sense.

The other thing was Sheldon and the apologies/career jealous thing. He said he is Bert's friend and puches him? I know, Bert kind of deserved it because he said he (Bert) could do better than Amy now, but wth? jerk Sheldon at this time of the story seeems a bit overeacting , even for a quick and strong laugh from audience. But again, maybe things work better as I watch them on screen.

Positive things :

*Loved the juicy details about shamy first time. "Why? Oh that's why" from Sheldon as he was like  reading a scientific article. Oh Shelly, because you love Amy, that's why it was so good! And it will be so good next times 

*Love Amy's influence in Sheldon as he needs to realize he was being a jerk about something or about someone.

*Barry Kripke and the robot. Priceless!

*Howard needs to grow up more and faster, lol! I know I will laugh hard but man, you need to get in line!

*Really enjoyed the kind of comparision between Stephen Hawkin who wasnt win the Nobel prize yet as Sheldon wasnt so far and it doesnt mean they are not  great scientists. Well done, writers.

And about the sneek peek of ep 7. The languages scenes were so funny! Looking forward to watching this episode , I love when we get the friendship bits of pamy and shelnard. And this epsiode seems to be a great one, with drama and funny stuff in balance.

About coitus 2.0, it seems that they might drag it out until one year after first time. However in terms of time, they are not close to Amy's birthday yet, so there is hope for they get into it in a spontaneous and unplanned way.

Fingers crossed!

Edited November 2, 2016 by spidergirl

[AllyAnne]

The whole thing about Sheldon's behavior and trying to seduce Amy isn't a surprise.  I thought his reasons for doing so and Amy's reasons for turning him down were pretty clear from the previous TR.  Am I disappointed that this latest ep didn't expand on that?  Of course, but it isn't surprising.

I'm happy to hear about a group dinner....FINALLY!!!

TBH--that's the only part that has me excited.

The part where Amy is trying to cheer Sheldon up and fails and Penny comes in and basically repeats the same thing and succeeds---UGH.   JUST UGH.

But we'll have to see how it plays I guess.

 

[serena_1995]

28 minutes ago, jenafan said:

 

The only thing in the TR that scared me was Amy being told to rethink her life choices, and she went off in the other room to do so.  I hope one of those is not her relationship with Sheldon.

Yes that bummed me too. I personally feel that Sheldon has really stepped up this season -

1) Sheldon has moved out of his comfort zone this season to make the living arrangement happen. He could have continued to stay in 4A comfortably, after all, his pipes didn't burst. But he chose to move to 4B. 

2) He convinced Amy  to continue living with him in 4B when Amy was ready to give up after 12 hours.

3) He cared a lot about not hurting Amy because of his worries about cheating on her. 

4) He gave up his bathroom schedule

5) He shared his toothbrush holder

6) He was considerate enough to have surprised her with a brunch

7) He forgave her lying about the apartment and understood her reasons.

8)He even concludes in the upcoming episode that he thinks the experiment is  success and is happy to living together. 

And I know, Sheldon needed some persuasion from Lenny and Amy to cohabitate, but I think, it is understandable. While last year, he was ready to propose, the break up really blindsided him. So I can see why he would hesitate to move forward, post reconciliation. 

 I know Sheldon said something mean to her, but still, the rethinking life choices by Amy is a bit extreme, especially if others like Leonard encourage her too. Especially after all the above that Sheldon has done for Amy this season. 

Edited November 2, 2016 by serena_1995

[mirs1]

1 hour ago, A Shamy gal said:

the impression I got from the chat was she was turned on but didn't want to have a baby.  And now that it's been made clear she was ovulating, that would be why he was trying to seduce her at that time.

In the chat @RJ1013 said, if I remember correctly, that at the  beginning Sheldon's attempts failed with Amy, Leonard asked her if she was turned on by them and she said she wasn't; the dance, instead, got her motor running. I guess it depends from the fact Sheldon was so over the top and his attempts very ridiculous (they were hilarious, more than sexy, according to Rj1013) and based on too many clichés to be liked by Amy. Even Molaro lately said she likes Sheldon and his quirks as he is, so probably that was too much. The dance, though...

[jenafan]

4 minutes ago, AllyAnne said:

The part where Amy is trying to cheer Sheldon up and fails and Penny comes in and basically repeats the same thing and succeeds---UGH.   JUST UGH.

I forgot about that, but yeah, Penny moving in and outshining Amy on being able to comfort Sheldon irks me.  Still, it is Amy who gets to hold him and sing sci-fi lullabies to him at night.

In fact, I would think Penny's relationship with Sheldon would be what Amy would be jealous over, not her looks.  

[serena_1995]

19 minutes ago, spidergirl said:

I know, Bert kind of deserved it because he said he (Bert) could do better than Amy now, but wth?

Why do you care if Bert thinks he can do better than Amy ? LOL. Do some people secretly ship Bert and Amy ?  LOL ! Last time I checked, Bert and Amy are not a couple . So what does it matter ? LOL...........

Edited November 2, 2016 by serena_1995