Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 10

[A Shamy gal]

4 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

In the chat @RJ1013 said, if I remember correctly, that at the  beginning Sheldon's attempts failed with Amy, Leonard asked her if she was turned on by them and she said she wasn't; the dance, instead, got her motor running. I guess it depends from the fact Sheldon was so over the top and his attempts very ridiculous (they were hilarious, more than sexy, according to Rj1013) and based on too many clichés to be liked by Amy. Even Molaro lately said she likes Sheldon and his quirks as he is, so probably that was too much. The dance, though...

I thought she was asked by Leonard if it was working and she said no, which is not the same.  So  added with his dance later, I  took it that yes he turns her on, but no his attempts to seduce her were not working.

Edited November 2, 2016 by A Shamy gal

[mirs1]

1 minute ago, A Shamy gal said:

I thought she was asked by Leonard if it was working and she said no, which is not the same.  So  I took it that yes he turns her on, but no his attempts to seduce her were not working.

Which I took as if she didn't think those attempts were sexy for her...

Edited November 2, 2016 by mirs1

[jenafan]

6 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

In the chat @RJ1013 said, if I remember correctly, that at the  beginning Sheldon's attempts failed with Amy, Leonard asked her if she was turned on by them and she said she wasn't; the dance, instead, got her motor running. I guess it depends from the fact Sheldon was so over the top and his attempts very ridiculous (they were hilarious, more than sexy, according to Rj1013) and based on too many clichés to be liked by Amy. 

It just proves that Amy gets the hots from Sheldon being Sheldon and not some romanticized or over the top version.  

This I am Happy about.

[spidergirl]

6 minutes ago, serena_1995 said:

Why do you care if Bert thinks he can do better than Amy ? LOL. Do some people secretly ship Bert and Amy ?  LOL ! Last time I checked, Bert and Amy are not a couple . So what does it matter ? LOL...........

I dont care, lol! I just think Sheldon should not punch him but at same time Sheldon must have not liked Bert saying that and there he go lol!

Not important indeed

No, I am 200 % shamy shipper !

 

 

Edited November 2, 2016 by spidergirl

[nusspot]

Maybe it's just me but I think it's pretty clear the whole "rethinking her life choices" is just a throwaway joke in response to Sheldon acting like a child and being an a$$ to her. 

[April]

@jenafan The moment I heard about Sheldon tracking Amy's cycle I thought about you!! Your headcanon is canon now - congratulations!! LOL

But yeah, anyway... 10x08

I thought this additional bit of information that he knows Amy is ovulating really just adds an explanation for his sudden urgency because that was kinda puzzling me (although I would have happily hand-waved it with Sheldon's eagerness whenever he cooked up one of his crazy ideas). It also suggests that this won't go on for weeks and he'll cool down on his own. So it's a bit of an outburst of "Sheldon in heat" but it gives the writers an excuse to make it a one-off OTT thing without bothering too much about the consequences. It's an obvious joke that many of us have suggested as some point - so I guess this was a save way to get it out of the system, before tackling a more serious approach for Coitus 2.0. And as said 10x11 now sounds pretty likely. I really hope they'll abandon the silly once a year thing after that because: No, Molaro, the joke is not as funny as you think it is! Ugh.

About the additional 9x11 details: I love how this suggests there was quite a bit of communication going on in the bedroom and I always thought they'd spend a lot of time figuring out what the other might like and all that. So trying things and realising "oh, that's why!" is not just realistic but really fits those two. And the results prove them right, I guess.

And I do think it was a very emotional event for the two as it was very evident in the aftermath. What has been compartmentalised were the physical aspects - and since both are pretty good at self control I guess it's easily the reason why the once a year spell hasn't been broken yet (much to our frustration ugh). At the very least they are shown to be on the same page. They both seem okay with the no sex arrangement for now but they are intimate in many other ways and both have moments of being aroused and maybe want some more if the time is right. After all there's the constant teasing from the writers that the sexual tension might spill over at any time and I guess it's effective enough to keep the viewers glued to the telly. LOL

[MsRajeshFowlerCooper]

She's not actually going to rethink her life choices.  I'm really confident in that.  It's just a tired joke they make about how Amy could do better because Sheldon is difficult.   I agreed with that to some extent until this season (don't hate me. It's just an opinion).  Now, Sheldon is finally moving forward and they are on the same page--more or less--and I wish they would stop with the "put-upon Amy" jokes, but that would require they no longer using "Sheldon's a jerk to people he loves" jokes, which they won't.  

I knew there was a good chance of no Shamy plot this week, but I do wish they could have a Shamyless episode without having to show Sheldon ignoring Amy to listen to Penny after all is the growth we've had this season.  

[mirs1]

Anyway, my " Shamy" thought about the episode: first off, the "rethink about my life choices" was obviously a joke, it's not like Amy run to the kitchen island to decide to leave Sheldon, and it was a response to his rudeness, "it's not that others are lining up to be you" doesn't seem to me the kindest thing you might say to your girlfriend. So, I don't think she is rethinking to their situation at all. 

Then I liked very much that Sheldon defended her honour with Bert, I mean...the guy might have won a prize, but for sure that hasn't increased his kindness with people.  For the rest, it is a funny episode and had finally a dinner scene...it's been 9 episodes to get one.

I would have expected something different, given the premises, anyway. I'm not disappointed  by 10.8, I find Sheldon monitoring Amy's cycle very IC and even sweet and TBH with all those explanations the episode becomes much more credible, I had no clue why Amy was so scared to get pregnant. But I'm disappointed by the fact all the built up (as it happened before) seems to end up in nothing, that irks me. Anyway, both 10.8 and 10.9 sound funny taken individually...

Edited November 2, 2016 by mirs1

[April]

49 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

In the chat @RJ1013 said, if I remember correctly, that at the  beginning Sheldon's attempts failed with Amy, Leonard asked her if she was turned on by them and she said she wasn't; the dance, instead, got her motor running. I guess it depends from the fact Sheldon was so over the top and his attempts very ridiculous (they were hilarious, more than sexy, according to Rj1013) and based on too many clichés to be liked by Amy. Even Molaro lately said she likes Sheldon and his quirks as he is, so probably that was too much. The dance, though...

Well, they danced the night she first kissed him... so maybe that's why?

But yeah, I'm happy to hear that the other tries were indeed not her cup of tea. Amy loves Sheldon for who he is (at least when he's not a cranky ass lol) and not some kind of romance novel cliché.

Edited November 2, 2016 by April

[A Shamy gal]

38 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

Anyway, my " Shamy" thought about the episode: first off, the "rethink about my life choices" was obviously a joke, it's not like Amy run to the kitchen island to decide to leave Sheldon, and it was a response to his rudeness, "it's not that others are lining up to be you" doesn't seem to me the kindest thing you might say to your girlfriend. So, I don't think she is rethinking at all to their situation. 

Then I liked very much that Sheldon defended her honour with Bert, I mean...the guy might have won a prize, but for sure that hasn't increased his kindness with people.  For the rest, it is a funny episode and had finally a dinner scene...it's been 9 episode to get one.

I would have expected something different, given the premises, anyway. I'm not disappointed  by 10.8, I find Sheldon monitoring Amy's cycle very IC and even sweet and TBH with all those explanations the episode becomes much more credible, I had no clue why Amy was so scared to get pregnant. But I'm disappointed by the fact all the built up (as it happened before) seems to end up in nothing, that irks me. Anyway, let's see what happens. Both 10.8 and 10.9 sound funny taken individually...

On the face of it, what Sheldon says to Amy is rude, but then he later defends her, so to me it's ok.  It kind of reminds me of relationships I know.  Most notably my parents - 57 years of slagging each other off, but woe beyond anyone else who says anything out of order.  In fact I can remember several occasions when one of them has said to the other that no else would have them.  My sister and brother in law are like that too and they've been married 18 years. 

[Jonny]

I don't know if this makes any sense (it probably doesn't):

I guess the issue I have is that I ultimately want Shamy to have a more normalized, healthy sex life, something everyday normal couple thing and not always having to be big event based or for some specific goal or reason for doing so. This is why I don't think I will like 10.8, I will of course laugh at the corny and cheesy seduction attempt but afterwards I just don't think I will like it. But that's my point of view which if I think after watching it and that happens to be the case I am entitled to have.

To be fair having sex the one time isn't going to make them experts at it. They are still very much at an exploration stage when it comes to that and they have to learn from and adapt to those new experiences. I guess perhaps I got caught up with the whole living situation changes and thought they were perhaps heading towards something more like what I envisioned, but maybe simply they need to 'walk before they can run' in a way. Well that and it's a comedy something a particular storyline may make you remember when you sometimes forget.

Don't get me wrong if they get to the point where they are having regular sex and enjoying it and for the right reasons then I don't want them to become too much of a normal cliche type couple. I still want to see sexy science talk turning them both on, the power of the mind still being such a big part of their sexual attraction, maybe using sci-fi themed costumes lol.

I just want something more normal and healthy for Shamy at the end of the day in regards to that aspect of their relationship.

Back to the comment after re-evaluating life choices it's just that typical cheap gag they go for, Leonard bitching and moaning about how Sheldon makes his life miserable, Penny being snarky all the time etc. Amy's not going to do that with so much progress in these recent episodes, they both seem on the whole very happy and content.

Edited November 2, 2016 by Jonny

[joyceraye]

3 hours ago, A Shamy gal said:

the impression I got from the chat was she was turned on but didn't want to have a baby.  And now that it's been made clear she was ovulating, that would be why he was trying to seduce her at that time.

No discussion beforehand, no proper place to live where there's room for a child, not even married. For a man who admires preparedness Sheldon must have baby fever quite badly.

It makes sense now why the writers chose five weeks as the likely time for them to be living so closely.

 

[Jedichic98]

If Amy was ovulating in 9x08 then wouldn't that mean (assuming there's no time jumo) that she's menstruating? You're not exactly in the mood during what my friend calls "The devil's waterfall" 

[Kathy2611]

1 minute ago, Jedichic98 said:

If Amy was ovulating in 9x08 then wouldn't that mean (assuming there's no time jumo) that she's menstruating? You're not exactly in the mood during what my friend calls "The devil's waterfall" 

Seriously?  It's not like dogs.  We ovulate right in between menstration.  For example, if a woman is on her period now, she'll be ovulating in a couple of weeks from now, around the middle of the month.

[April]

3 minutes ago, Jonny said:

I don't know if this makes any sense (it probably doesn't):

I guess the issue I have is that I ultimately want Shamy to have a more normalized, healthy sex life, something everyday normal couple thing and not always having to be big event based or for some specific goal or reason for doing so. This is why I don't think I will like 10.8, I will of course laugh at the corny and cheesy seduction attempt but afterwards I just don't think I will like it. But that's my point of view which if I think after watching it and that happens to be the case I am entitled to have.

To be fair having sex the one time isn't going to make them experts at it. They are still very much at an exploration stage when it comes to that and they have to learn from and adapt to those new experiences. I guess perhaps I got caught up with the whole living situation changes and thought they were perhaps heading towards something more like what I envisioned, but maybe simply they need to 'walk before they can run' in a way. Well that and it's a comedy something a particular storyline may make you remember when you sometimes forget.

Don't get me wrong if they get to the point where they are having regular sex and enjoying it and for the right reasons then I don't want them to become too much of a normal cliche type couple. I still want to see sexy science talk turning them both on, the power of the mind still being such a big part of their sexual attraction, maybe using sci-fi themed costumes lol.

I just want something more normal and healthy for Shamy at the end of the day in regards to that aspect of their relationship.

Back to the comment after re-evaluating life choices it's just that typical cheap gag they go for, Leonard bitching and moaning about how Sheldon makes his life miserable, Penny being snarky all the time etc. Amy's not going to do that with so much progress in these recent episodes, they both seem on the whole very happy and content.

If eventually the sex goes the same way as their other ways of intimacy - which we know now happen frequently and spontaneously and with both enjoying them immensely - I'm sure we'll end up with what you and, let's be real, pretty much everybody else here want for them.

To use your metaphor here: I do think that in hindsight 9x11 was a bit of a "trying to run without barely knowing to walk" event that was pretty successful, sure, but didn't exactly lead to them picking up jogging as a hobby. But with them living together now the way they do with hugs, kisses, snuggling and everything they will catch up on the "walking" part soon enough and then they can try to run again. And I think that way it'll work out just fine. It'll only take a bit longer than we hoped for because of that stupid one year thing. (Ugh Molaro, it's not that funny!)

6 minutes ago, Kathy2611 said:

Seriously?  It's not like dogs.  We ovulate right in between menstration.  For example, if a woman is on her period now, she'll be ovulating in a couple of weeks from now, around the middle of the month.

I'm having flashbacks to the S9 thread when it turned into the Sex Ed 101 thread ever so often with talks about periods and pregnancies. LMAO

[spidergirl]

11 minutes ago, Kathy2611 said:

Seriously?  It's not like dogs.  We ovulate right in between menstration.  For example, if a woman is on her period now, she'll be ovulating in a couple of weeks from now, around the middle of the month.

Thumbs up to this post. Because there are always someone that is not expert about this kind of question. I thought to post explaining that but your post was really nicely done.

[Jonny]

36 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

No discussion beforehand, no proper place to live where there's room for a child, not even married. For a man who admires preparedness Sheldon must have baby fever quite badly.

It makes sense now why the writers chose five weeks as the likely time for them to be living so closely.

 

I never at all took the baby thing seriously despite all my reservations with 10.8. For one thing I take the writers at their word that they aren't going to suddenly all having children and from an in character perspective they are not ready for that and Sheldon is not an idiot he knows it.

The baby stuff i took for him being simply 'randy', he overacts all the time and takes things to excessives. He was using the baby angle as a way to possibly get laid because he wants to badly. Sheldon's mind...

Edited November 2, 2016 by Jonny

[joyceraye]

17 minutes ago, Jedichic98 said:

If Amy was ovulating in 9x08 then wouldn't that mean (assuming there's no time jumo) that she's menstruating? You're not exactly in the mood during what my friend calls "The devil's waterfall" 

Sheldon's seduction shenanigans took place in 10x08. Ovulation occurs about two weeks before menstruation. Ovulation happens again a week after menstruation on a 21- day cycle, or two weeks after on a 28-day cycle, which is the most common. If the ovulation is effective, conception is possible. She was ovulating in 10x08 which means Sheldon has noticed the length of her cycle. They are in their second month in the apartment. Couples who are trying for a baby keep close watch on these things. Catholics are supposed to use this observation as the only permissible birth control. It has the highest failure rate.  

[Jedichic98]

Further thoughts: First off I've been daydreaming all day yesterday of these two tearing their clothes off each other. It's still on my wish list. You know what else was on my wish list: proof that Sheldon gets turned on by science and Amy's mind and I got that (The word randy was used) we've also gotten cuddling, a good night kiss (those happen every night no one can object that) Sheldon going out of his way to make his woman happy. The living arrangements settled, (IT'S CANNON OUR BABIES LIVE TOGETHER) 

Additionally, if Amy was ovulating then that would be the perfect time for Amy to donate that egg. Place it in a petri-dish with Sheldon's sperm and choose an appropriate surrogate mother. That was the initial plan after all.

But Sheldon wanted to try it the old fashion way. Why? Because with Amy he's learned he enjoys it. So much so that he looks forward to happening again. (even when the rest of us are screaming at him to get on with it) 

Amy, doesn't seem to mind much about it. Aside from 10x05 (and she was responding to him claiming to date other women) we haven't heard a "Amy wants it Sheldon doesn't give it" joke. Does anyone else realize how impactful that is? We always talk about Sheldon's growth, but Amy has matured as well. Aside from that one comment about them having sex once a year in 10x05, we haven't heard a single complaint about the lack of physical intimacy. No massage timer, no negotiations, the guy swatted her butt playfully and even my middle brother who isn't a huge shipper like I am commented on the look he gave her during that scene. 

Is it annoying that the writers had all this beautiful build-up with no real payoff: of course! it was gifted wrapped for you. However as long as the two seem to be on the same page about it. Which to me they do, then I'm happy for them. 

[A Shamy gal]

11 minutes ago, Jonny said:

I never at all took the baby thing seriously despite all my reservations with 10.8. For one thing I take the writers at their word that they aren't going to suddenly all having children and from an in character perspective they are not ready for that and Sheldon is not an idiot he knows it.

The baby stuff i took for him being simply 'randy', he overacts all the time and takes things to excessives. He was using the baby angle as a way to possibly get laid because he wants to badly. Sheldon's mind...

I think Sheldon was being serious at the time.  That's why he tries so to hard to seduce her because he knows it's the right time in her cycle.  Thankfully Amy is more clearheaded about it and hopefully he'll come to his senses before the next right time.

[Jonny]

4 minutes ago, Jedichic98 said:

Further thoughts: First off I've been daydreaming all day yesterday of these two tearing their clothes off each other. It's still on my wish list. You know what else was on my wish list: proof that Sheldon gets turned on by science and Amy's mind and I got that (The word randy was used) we've also gotten cuddling, a good night kiss (those happen every night no one can object that) Sheldon going out of his way to make his woman happy. The living arrangements settled, (IT'S CANNON OUR BABIES LIVE TOGETHER) 

Additionally, if Amy was ovulating then that would be the perfect time for Amy to donate that egg. Place it in a petri-dish with Sheldon's sperm and choose an appropriate surrogate mother. That was the initial plan after all.

But Sheldon wanted to try it the old fashion way. Why? Because with Amy he's learned he enjoys it. So much so that he looks forward to happening again. (even when the rest of us are screaming at him to get on with it) 

Amy, doesn't seem to mind much about it. Aside from 10x05 (and she was responding to him claiming to date other women) we haven't heard a "Amy wants it Sheldon doesn't give it" joke. Does anyone else realize how impactful that is? We always talk about Sheldon's growth, but Amy has matured as well. Aside from that one comment about them having sex once a year in 10x05, we haven't heard a single complaint about the lack of physical intimacy. No massage timer, no negotiations, the guy swatted her butt playfully and even my middle brother who isn't a huge shipper like I am commented on the look he gave her during that scene. 

Is it annoying that the writers had all this beautiful build-up with no real payoff: of course! it was gifted wrapped for you. However as long as the two seem to be on the same page about it. Which to me they do, then I'm happy for them. 

The writers want that though, they want you to keep watching and interested. Just like the engagement, coitus 2.0 will most likely be dragged out for as long as they possibly can.

For any reservations some of us have at the moment with a particular aspect of storyline we mustn't forget we have had a metric shit ton of good Shamy stuff this season which must be far and beyond any of us could have imagined.

And you are right @Jedichic98 all that matters at the end of the day is are they happy? I think they clearly are right now and until we see signs of that changing we must assume they are still.

[April]

6 minutes ago, A Shamy gal said:

I think Sheldon was being serious at the time.  That's why he tries so to hard to seduce her because he knows it's the right time in her cycle.  Thankfully Amy is more clearheaded about it and hopefully he'll come to his senses before the next right time.

I think it's a bit of everything. He is serious in that moment, sure, but I also believe that this seriousness stems from his mind going into overdrive with him being turned on because science with Amy does that to him, their experiment reminding him of making babies, plus his knowledge of Amy's cycle thrown into the mix - and the glorious idea that comes out of it is "Let's make a baby! NOW!" LOL This guy!

[MsRajeshFowlerCooper]

Shamy is hot right now.  Not sure why this made me chuckle. 

[spidergirl]

2 minutes ago, MsRajeshFowlerCooper said:

Shamy is hot right now.  Not sure why this made me chuckle. 

LOL!! They are getting hot everywhere!

 

[joyceraye]

It looks as though whether she wants a baby yet or not, Amy will have got the message they're settled enough to revisit 'coital expectations' and put  them back 'on the table'. Two more weeks after 10x08 and she can start the pill or she can get an injection to cover her for six months now. ( Why she wasn't already on the pill just in case, goodness knows. I suppose it wouldn't be as funny. ) So, coitus 2.0 will be a matter of routine soon and we might not even be told when it's going on.