Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 10

[Jonny]

32 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

What Sheldon said when he cuddled Amy in the 4b bathroom : it was actually audible when shown on E4 a minute ago ! He whispered, 'Come on.'

Everybody who thought that, you were right.

Yeah it was! When I had seen the streamed version a few weeks back I couldn't exactly hear it but on the television just now it definitely sounded like that. 

Personally I think I am done speculating on coitus 2.0, going around in circles each week just isn't helpful and it's bordering on an obsession for me lol. Just going to sit back watch what happens on that front then discuss after the event. 

Edited November 16, 2016 by Jonny

[camelliayao]

I don't need coitus 2.0 to be big. However I do want an explanation of why they haven't done it yet since their first time.

I also want to know Sheldon's attitude towards coitus. Does he like it? Does he need it? Does he feel the need to do it regularly? If yes then here comes the question again, why did they wait almost a year to do it again? 

Basically I want the writers to come up with a good excuse for their dragging things out over the past year. Because it NEVER made sense to me.

[spidergirl]

1 hour ago, joyceraye said:

What Sheldon said when he cuddled Amy in the 4b bathroom : it was actually audible when shown on E4 a minute ago ! He whispered, 'Come on.'

Everybody who thought that, you were right.

I have to wait for the dvd because the tv channel where tbbt episodes  air (I mean after s8, as the other tv channel that  I have mentioned earlier only rerun s4-s8) gave up of buying the most recent season. It is a shame that the amount of tbbt portuguese viewers is not enough for air season 10.

1 hour ago, Jonny said:

Yeah it was! When I had seen the streamed version a few weeks back I couldn't exactly hear it but on the television just now it definitely sounded like that. 

Personally I think I am done speculating on coitus 2.0, going around in circles each week just isn't helpful and it's bordering on an obsession for me lol. Just going to sit back watch what happens on that front then discuss after the event. 

I think I should do that too, lol. It is taking too much of my time , as it is really getting to be an obsession.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 16, 2016 by spidergirl

[vonmar]

2 hours ago, joyceraye said:

What Sheldon said when he cuddled Amy in the 4b bathroom : it was actually audible when shown on E4 a minute ago ! He whispered, 'Come on.'

Everybody who thought that, you were right.

I love E4 Tweets....

 

[sam25233]

9 hours ago, Judith said:

Right now my main concern is whether they'll stick to once a year or not. I'm fine with Sheldon choosing Amy's birthday as their first time but not for them to have sex every year on her birthday. Putting aside the fact that it's just wrong on so many levels, it doesn't make sense. We know that they kiss and stuff and that there's sexual tension, but despite that, they're going to wait for that one time a year, which will have to be her birthday,...because?

Idk, I have a lot of feelings right now. Some spoilers would help.

Exactly my point. Its so confusing. If you like something, why would you do it just once a year? If I love cake, that doesn't mean I eat it only on my birthday. And if they liked it but not so much as to need it in their regular lives, why even go for once a year? Clearly their relationship is capable of thriving even without coitus. What is the point of this once a year nonsense? I would like an explanation for that. I know Sheldon has his quirks, but most of them have a solid reason, however far fetched.

What I would like to see is that both of them actually really want it, but are unable to communicate without feeling like they are putting pressure on the other. That explanation would be acceptable. Otherwise its just absurd. I think its poor writing on part of the confused writers, who have no idea what to do with Shamy's physicality, and are scared that the audience won't accept it.

[rice sheldon]

As someone else mentioned before, I really think the once-a-year thing is because the writers genuinely think that's hilarious. Maybe they felt they needed to add that aspect so Sheldon didn't seem super out of character.

I think they still want to portray this "Sheldon doesn't have hormones" thing, even though we know that isn't true. If he didn't have hormones or wants, he wouldn't have been able to have sex with Amy at all, let alone enjoy it. And I think the scene where they bicker and she proposes they make out PROVES that Sheldon has human feelings and urges. So just having sex once a year makes absolutely no sense anymore. What warm-blooded human in love can handle having sex one time a year? 

Sheldon is crazy, but he's still a man. He likes to act like he isn't, but he is. Hopefully he (and the writers) can come to terms with that. 

[camelliayao]

3 hours ago, rice sheldon said:

As someone else mentioned before, I really think the once-a-year thing is because the writers genuinely think that's hilarious. Maybe they felt they needed to add that aspect so Sheldon didn't seem super out of character.

That would've worked if their second time happened a short time after Opening Night. In that case people may look back and laugh about it like "haha so much for next birthday". Now it seems they basically stick to the once-a-year thing, which is no longer funny and brings all sorts of questions about Sheldon's sexuality.

Also I never get the writers' "Sheldon with desire is out of character" thing. If that's out of character, they shouldn't have added the character of Amy in the first place. (Or at least they should have made her asexual)

People keep saying "as long as they're both satisfied, we shippers should be happy". The thing is, I don't think Amy is completely satisfied judging from her failed attempt to suggest sex in 917 and really, all the things we know about Amy. She obviously wants it more. So no, I don't think they're both satisfied. Some people ask whether Amy still keeps her electronic toothbrush. I mean of course. Why wouldn't she? She obviously has normal sexual desire so I don't think once a year is enough for her. 

Anyway I hope the writers deal with coitus soon or at least show us Shamy are both Ok with whatever arrangements they come up with together. (Like in 1004, they both agree to put coitus off the table temporarily.) Otherwise it's just wrong, on so many levels.

[Jonny]

Happy new episode day!

Change of pace episode this week, but there should be some sweet Shamy moments in it. 

[April]

Okay, first things first: Keep in mind that Shamy are not normal people. And I don't even mean their quirks but the simple fact that they are fictional characters and their life doesn't happen like for any real person but in little 20 min bits spread over a whole year. Big events happen as part of story arcs that are written in a way to catch the audience's attention and lets them root for the next developments. The whole idea of having sex, finding it enjoyable and then put the next time off for months and months is ludicrous in real life. But for fictional characters that live by the rhythm of a 24 weeks sitcom and are at the mercy of the writers needing to find the perfect time and place to insert a certain storyline it's just business as usual. Obviously whether or not any individual viewer may find that believable or enjoyable is up to them. Taste in fiction is subjective, as is anyone's sense of humour. Either it works for you or it doesn't.

With that said, I don't think the writers are trying to make a statement about Sheldon's sexuality other than that he has his urges under control - or at least the did that pretty well as long as he wasn't living with Amy. Cause now that they do and share a bed each night what we have seen is that the writers are happily embracing the idea of Shamy openly having the hots for each other. And no, that doesn't get resolved right away like you'd expect it in real life and the writers take their time because this is a TV show so they have that carrot dangling in front of the viewers that keeps them glued to the telly wondering if this week will be the one when they finally ravage each other like wild animals in heat. It may be frustrating on some level, especially for us shippers, but that's just the way it is and it frequently works, so I can't exactly fault them.

Now, I would agree that the "do it again next year" line and the writers following through with that (at least in real life time, not in the TBBT universe) is absolutely there because they find it hilarious. But as said, I do think with this season especially they abandoned the whole "Sheldon has no urges" nonsense. He openly admits that "being with Amy awakened the sexual creature within" and that she makes him "randy" while he's flirting with her. They literally spell it out. Not to mention all the other displays of affection we've seen. So while they have not acted on their urges to have sex again just yet (because again, TV show timing) they're intimate in many other ways and there's nothing wrong with that. They seem to be pretty okay with that arrangement for now while the sexual tension is certainly still there and will no doubt boil over at some point.

I'm rather optimistic about the next episodes.

[spidergirl]

Happy new episode day!!

It might be not so excitting as were two last episodes but it might turn better on screen that I thought it would. 

Looking foward to Amy looking after her Sheldon. He is stuborn, he gets jealousy for things he should never get about but she loves him, quirks and all.

Maybe Sheldon might learn something this time for Amy usual honesty about things that he usual overeacts. He now listens to her opinions with much care, right?

 

Edited November 17, 2016 by spidergirl

[RoRo]

18 minutes ago, April said:

Okay, first things first: Keep in mind that Shamy are not normal people. And I don't even mean their quirks but the simple fact that they are fictional characters and their life doesn't happen like for any real person but in little 20 min bits spread over a whole year. Big events happen as part of story arcs that are written in a way to catch the audience's attention and lets them root for the next developments. The whole idea of having sex, finding it enjoyable and then put the next time off for months and months is ludicrous in real life. But for fictional characters that live by the rhythm of a 24 weeks sitcom and are at the mercy of the writers needing to find the perfect time and place to insert a certain storyline it's just business as usual. Obviously whether or not any individual viewer may find that believable or enjoyable is up to them. Taste in fiction is subjective, as is anyone's sense of humour. Either it works for you or it doesn't.

With that said, I don't think the writers are trying to make a statement about Sheldon's sexuality other than that he has his urges under control - or at least the did that pretty well as long as he wasn't living with Amy. Cause now that they do and share a bed each night what we have seen is that the writers are happily embracing the idea of Shamy openly having the hots for each other. And no, that doesn't get resolved right away like you'd expect it in real life and the writers take their time because this is a TV show so they have that carrot dangling in front of the viewers that keeps them glued to the telly wondering if this week will be the one when they finally ravage each other like wild animals in heat. It may be frustrating on some level, especially for us shippers, but that's just the way it is and it frequently works, so I can't exactly fault them.

Now, I would agree that the "do it again next year" line and the writers following through with that (at least in real life time, not in the TBBT universe) is absolutely there because they find it hilarious. But as said, I do think with this season especially they abandoned the whole "Sheldon has no urges" nonsense. He openly admits that "being with Amy awakened the sexual creature within" and that she makes him "randy" while he's flirting with her. They literally spell it out. Not to mention all the other displays of affection we've seen. So while they have not acted on their urges to have sex again just yet (because again, TV show timing) they're intimate in many other ways and there's nothing wrong with that. They seem to be pretty okay with that arrangement for now while the sexual tension is certainly still there and will no doubt boil over at some point.

I'm rather optimistic about the next episodes.

Yes!!

These 2 characters are brought to life so well that we often forget they are only characters on tv.

Ive said it before ...even though coitus was taken off the table, they have done "stuff" jmo or wishful thinking

[April]

14 minutes ago, RoRo said:

Yes!!

These 2 characters are brought to life so well that we often forget they are only characters on tv.

Ive said it before ...even though coitus was taken off the table, they have done "stuff" jmo or wishful thinking

Yeah, I also think they're doing "stuff". It may not be super raunchy "stuff" but they're certainly intimate in ways that satisfies their current needs. It's not that uncommon for couple to abstain from intercourse even for months for various reasons but still be happy because they have found their own ways of intimacy.

Shamy have a strong emotional and intellectual bond, and judging by all the hugging and kissing and flirting and snuggling in bed they certainly found a way to nourish their physical bond even though they haven't gone ~all the way~ again just yet.

<3

[shamour]

2 hours ago, spidergirl said:

Happy new episode day!!

It might be not so excitting as were two last episodes but it might turn better on screen that I thought it would. 

Looking foward to Amy looking after her Sheldon. He is stuborn, he gets jealousy for things he should never get about but she loves him, quirks and all.

Maybe Sheldon might learn something this time for Amy usual honesty about things that he usual overeacts. He now listens to her opinions with much care, right?

 

spidergirl, I just love this gif so much! :-)

[joyceraye]

2 hours ago, RoRo said:

Yes!!

These 2 characters are brought to life so well that we often forget they are only characters on tv.

Ive said it before ...even though coitus was taken off the table, they have done "stuff" jmo or wishful thinking

In last week's episode, 10x08, Sheldon had definitely put it  on    the table in no uncertain terms.The time for 'revisiting'  the decision had definitely arrived - and it was obvious what he'd decided.   Any doubts or fears Sheldon had had about 'expectations' irrespective of his motives had apparently disappeared while he was scattering rose petals, spraying himself with musk, remembering what his dancing did to her, and dressing like a seducer from a bad 1940s film. He seemed pretty confident he could perform.

All it takes now is a little discussion about the family planning issue and they'll be fully living over the brush.

[spidergirl]

2 hours ago, April said:

Yeah, I also think they're doing "stuff". It may not be super raunchy "stuff" but they're certainly intimate in ways that satisfies their current needs. It's not that uncommon for couple to abstain from intercourse even for months for various reasons but still be happy because they have found their own ways of intimacy.

Shamy have a strong emotional and intellectual bond, and judging by all the hugging and kissing and flirting and snuggling in bed they certainly found a way to nourish their physical bond even though they haven't gone ~all the way~ again just yet.

<3

I do believe they're doing "stuff" too. Since they started to living together and sharing a bed that they seem more relaxed about touching  each other. It can be seen how naturally Sheldon hugged Amy in the bathroom and Amy hugged Sheldon in brunch day. Also when they were in bed they were really confortable around each other. As Amy said when they agreed to revisit coitus later that they could share  other  ways of intimacy. I believe that Sheldon 'd ask her what she had in mind as the sexual tension gets higher between them and what they are doing is working so far. The making out sessions surely are very heated and satisfying by now. Amy denied the Sheldon seducing attempts in 10.08 but the old Amy would refer she would die he had made it in other circunstances. Amy seemed very secure ( although the dance was almost killed her, lol) for waiting for the right time for they make love without being for a science purpose. She seems happy taking step by step foward in the most intimate side of her relationship with Sheldon. Eventually Sheldon would make clear soon that he desires her too much for keep the waiting longer. And she would say she feels the same.

Edited November 17, 2016 by spidergirl

[Sylphadora]

10 hours ago, sam25233 said:

What is the point of this once a year nonsense? I would like an explanation for that. I know Sheldon has his quirks, but most of them have a solid reason, however far fetched.

I think Sheldon never anticipated he would ever need/crave sex with Amy after the first time. He never thought he would want to do it for his own pleasure and thought he would only ever do it for Amy's sake, just to please her, because it's something that he knows she wants. That's why sex was a gift to her. A gift is something that the other person likes but that you don't have to like in particular. I think he thought it would only ever be a gift.

However, he underestimated how pleasurable it felt. 'I enjoyed that more than I thought I would.' He decided to go with his original plan of having sex only as a gift to Amy, though, and maybe he didn't crave being so physical with Amy when they were living apart, but now that they're living in close quarters and seeing each other more often than ever, 'it's only logical' that the force reawakens 

Edited November 17, 2016 by Sylphadora

[April]

1 hour ago, Sylphadora said:

I think Sheldon never anticipated he would ever need/crave sex with Amy after the first time.

I think if there's been one fact about Sheldon that's been consistent over the years it's that he's in deep denial about the nature of his relationship with Amy. 25 cats, "she's not my girlfriend", claiming their relationship is "not romantic", etc etc. Him trying to rationalise coitus with Amy as a gift would be much of the same idea that he's in control of all this.

His behaviour though speaks a different language. We see it in his emotional outbursts, in his frustrations with himself and their conflicts, but also in his joy of being with her. We also hear it in those rare moments when he allows a glimpse behind the curtains exposing his true feelings, right down to conversing with his subconscious mind in his dreams.

All of this may make his actions look a bit confusing (and he's probably a bit confused about all this himself) because we as the audience know how he truly feels so we end up yelling at the screen for this idiot to finally get over himself. It's a struggle every time and it's been for years. But in the end he's lost every single one of these battles because the heart wants what it wants.

With regards to coitus I do feel though that he seems a lot more relaxed about it all now (I mean, he was suggesting a quickie in the lab for goodness sake! Sheldon Lee Cooper! Suggested a quickie! Right there in the lab!) and right now it might actually be on Amy to make a move. She suggested to take coitus off the table for the time being and she resisted his seduction attempts (for good reasons, but still). Can't wait to see how this develops further!

[wowbagger]

22 hours ago, camelliayao said:

I don't need coitus 2.0 to be big. However I do want an explanation of why they haven't done it yet since their first time.

I also want to know Sheldon's attitude towards coitus. Does he like it? Does he need it? Does he feel the need to do it regularly? If yes then here comes the question again, why did they wait almost a year to do it again? 

Basically I want the writers to come up with a good excuse for their dragging things out over the past year. Because it NEVER made sense to me.

I.... don't think they can, personally. I think the writers had Sheldon and Amy have sex before they were all on board with the idea of Sheldon having sexual desire. Sheldon is not allowed to say explicitly at any point in Opening Night that he desires Amy, and is not allowed to look stirred by the actual sexual act. In the episodes afterwards, the show has Amy say that she enjoyed it, that he rocked her world etc., while Sheldon isn't allowed to look anything but maybe pleased that she enjoyed herself. And I've expended a lot of e-ink on everything that I found ugly about that dynamic, so I'll not rehash it here.

Anyway, I don't know what sort of Come to Jesus moment the writers had between Seasons Nine and Ten, but certainly whoever's writing the Shamy now is in a mighty hurry to correct all the errors of omission and commission of Season Nine. Amy is taking coitus off the table. Sheldon and Amy get so worked up by science!argument that they run off to make out (with a peremptory little jerk of the head from Sheldon to his little lady, no less). Sheldon literally tells Amy to stop making him 'randy' as she spouts a logical Moebius strip. And he gets so turned on at the thought of creating a perfect little Mens Novus with Amy that he barrels straight past 'aroused' to 'frankly grotesque'. Although maybe he knows something we don't. Amy, God love her, was more turned on by the flamenco than by him looming over her husking 'See anything you'd like to pet?'. The flamenco. Objectively the least sexy he was that entire episode - and quite possibly the entire show. 

Ahem. So. Anyway. I don't think there's a cogent explanation, honestly, except 'We thought about it and realised that it was a bit gross for Sheldon to have sex but not be into it. Our bad. Let's make it up to you. Now we'll have Sheldon be into sex but not have it. Does that seem fair? I think that seems fair.'

As to whether they have sex before the anniversary: honestly, so long as they're both into each other and that's clear, then they can have sex before the next birthday, after or not until the end of the show. Which...I mean...I hope not. They'd probably have to scrape bits of Sheldon and Amy off the walls of 4B in that case.

Edited November 17, 2016 by wowbagger

[rice sheldon]

I really enjoyed tonight's episode. It was super funny and nice to see the whole gang together again. Also loved the brief moment when Shamy held hands, as well as the moment where Sheldon karate chopped Bert for insulting his little lady. 

Edit: Didn't wanna double post. Figured I'd just add more (Forgive me if that's not allowed, still learning the rules). I just wanna say to everyone on this thread that I appreciate how positive you all are, and that you all just really love this show. I'm relatively new and you all make me feel really welcome.  

Edited November 18, 2016 by Tensor
Comments about other posters and/or their opinions removed.

[serena_1995]

I have always wanted to see what really went down that night in Opening Night Excitation. Like Amy complimenting Sheldon's genitals , Sheldon screaming "why" , who was on top, who was on bottom etc. LMAO, Sadly, CBS ain't HBO. Not that I want to see Shamy do  hard core on screen(I don't), but I would have liked to see some of the action. It sounds hilarious whenever the tidbits are mentioned . 

Edited November 18, 2016 by serena_1995

[spidergirl]

 

What is always great about our lovelies is the less an episode had, the more we can get from that!

So I am going to share what I loved and melted about shamy in last episode, which I thought it was nice but I have seen really better ones. But well, there will be always episodes that can not be great but I cant handle with that. I left my comment in episode thread , now it is time about gushing over a bit about shamy

 *The domestic tone shamy actions have nowadays, I just love it! Although this episode had not had a scene in 4 B (shame on writers, lol) every shamy move in 4 A was so married couple style, so confortable they are around each other. Thank you writers for not messing it up!

*My heart melted as Amy after took care of Sheldon’s hurt feet and while she was giving him some wise advices, they held hands. Lightly but firmly, you know. And the way Sheldon looked at Amy, dispite of the mean tidbit that I would ignore, wow. They meant to be indeed. *fans self*

*Amy, you rock girl! I love how she said about her priorities in a joke tone, not really in a way that was something she would do. She knows how to handle with her man!

*More love about Amy: she didn’t hesitate to show frustration about Sheldon sometimes listens to more Penny than her. You go, girl! Sheldon must learn that some things are for he listens to his  friend Penny and others are all about him and his girlfriend talking about serious stuff.

*Loved Sheldon and Leonard walk. It was really nice to see Leonard worried about Sheldon and wanted to put some sense in his bestfriend mind. He knows him better than anyone and it was nice to help him in some stuff he really needs to improve about, like his feelings about the others success in their careers.

* Our Sheldon really grew up. I loved he seeked for Bert to talk about all his prize and his feelings about it. Old Sheldon only would be stuborn and act like a spoiled child. He nowadays seek a way to fix his issues. Amy has been a great help in that department. They are so meant to be

* Loved Sheldon defended Amy’s honor! And he knew about Bert’s feelings. I could not help myself of getting happy for Sheldon really knows that Amy is the best woman ever and she is his , he loves her and he is proud of that! Bless the karate chop, lol!

*Poor Sheldon, he got so injured this episode, lol. But I can imagine shamy bed time for a few days as Amy took a bit of her time to check her Sheldon ‘s bandages and swollen feet. And more holding hands, a soft cudling time and all. Cant help myself, I just love to think about what they did off screen, lol!

*Tag scene was fine. It was nice that Sheldon and Bert could be friends after all of that. Sheldon is in right path as he is getting to be a grown man.

*Love the connection between Sheldon’s carreer as it has not a Nobel yet like the great physicist SH. I really like when they show prizes are not everything in a well succeed carreer

If I remember more stuff, I will be back!

Edited November 18, 2016 by spidergirl

[mirs1]

Not so much Shamy in this episode, but that's what I liked about them in it. Amy\Mayim was on fire,  she didn't put up with Sheldon's nonsense when her reasoning couldn't convince him, but at time she was loving and caring. First off, she convinced him in giving Bert's work a chance by reading it, which is quite a thing, since Sheldon doesn't consider geology a real science. Moreover,  I remember when  the TR mentioned the line "questioning my life choices" there was some dissatisfaction over here, but I liked Mayim's deliver so much. Amy was sarcastic and sassy, as I like her to be. Also the "Really???" to Sheldon's reaction to Penny's words was on point. The little snippets about their "Opening Night" were hilarious, and Mayim's deliver of the joke made it even funnier. I really need to know more about it, why can't we have a special episode airing at midnight about that?!? I liked also the way she took care of him when injured and them holding hands; it's funny that, even after they are living together and are showing much more casual touching and affection towards each other, my Shamy heart can still melt about handholding.

I don't care that much about Sheldon defending her honour with Bert, since I'm not sure whether he was defending Amy's honour or his own; as a matter of fact he rubbed in Bert's face his successful love life to make him jealous and Bert said that didn't work.

So, overall...much better Amy than Sheldon in this episode, but Shamy is alive!!!

Edited November 18, 2016 by mirs1

[spidergirl]

1 hour ago, mirs1 said:

The little snippets about their "Opening Night" were hilarious, and Mayim's deliver of the joke made it even funnier. I really need to know more about it, why can't we have a special episode airing at midnight about that?!? 

Oh I knew I would forget about something! I love everytime we got the "Opening  Night" litle snippets. The "why" was really so Sheldon's , lol! And Amy's face as she said that snippet? Priceless! She loves so much Sheldon, quirks and all!

About that special episode , I would vote for it happen! 

 

Edited November 18, 2016 by spidergirl

[Jonny]

Wasn't much Shamy stuff but like others have said what we got was both sweet and funny.

- She saw through the nonsense and got Sheldon to actually read the paper to see why Bert got the achievement he did. Had that been early era Sheldon he would never had read it.

- The 'why, why oh that's why' line was great on a couple of levels. It gives us another insight into what happened on Opening night but it was also hilarious, Amy's snark game is on fire this season lol

- The way she was trying to take care of him and holding his hand was very sweet. My worries about the reassess life choices line were very low going into the episode and even lower and seeing it. It was another example of Amy's razor sharp snark that has been very noticeable this season.

- I like the way he defended Amy, not sure if that whole piece of dialogue was showing in a way that Sheldon was acknowledging that his greatest achievement is not his work but being with Amy or that Sheldon was more using it to throw something that Bert might be jealous of back into his face. Maybe a bit of both?

- The gang made a little bit of fun once again about their relationship, but it wasn't anywhere near as nasty as for example in the Love Spell Potential and was just a cheap gag. You could tell for a second Amy didn't like it but then she shrugged it off and why should she deep down care? She's shacked up with the love of her life.

- Amy's snark was again on fire with the whole Penny hair thing. I would probably have sided with Penny as I don't mind seeing short hair on women, not the pixie crop but a bit longer but I digress.

- Sheldon overall showing he has evolved and changed but some old habits or traits do die hard like professional jealousy. But like I said in the episode thread this wasn't early era Sheldon having to deal with jealousy, he has showed some major improvement on trying to deal with issues like that. That scene with Bert in his office and going there and trying to talk it out and express how he was feeling was pretty mature.

Perhaps it was good to introduce a change of pace episode in here before we get the Howardette baby birth and perhaps further developments of the Shamy relationship. It thought it was a good episode, it didn't hit the heights of some of the recent ones but not the worst of Season 10 so far.

Edited November 18, 2016 by Jonny

[April]

Hello everyone! Happy new episode day!! <3

Overall not my favourite episode this season - after the brilliance of the last couple of episodes going all out with the cohabitation experiment and everything this retreat to "Sheldon is still Sheldon" felt like a let down. But it's not the worst serving either and I found enough stuff to like about it.

- First I should probably preface this by saying that I'm not one of those people who are mad when a show is revisiting certain themes. Sheldon having issues with his jealousy is part of his character and having this trait resurface every now and then is just character continuity. It's a bit absurd to me to expect the writers to never use that again after having done it in an episode in the past. It's a long running show and coming back to certain themes is only natural.

- So with that in mind I like that the writers put a new spin on it and instead of simply have Sheldon be jealous the story is about Sheldon dealing with his jealousy and trying to overcome it which I don't think they have done before. It also fits rather nicely with the post-breakup theme of Sheldon being more self aware and trying to deal with his emotions better and become a better person. Only time will tell whether or not this lesson will stick. But for his health's sake I hope it does. Poor Shelly hobbling through the episode like a wounded bunny had me going back and forth between "Aww poor thing!" and LMAO (Excellent work here by Jim as per usual!)

- This was very light on Shamy as expected. Loved the little titbit from their night in 9x11 (communication in bed is important! lol). Loved Amy being so caring about her poor injured cuddles. Loved the little hand holding. Loved that their relationship is basically heralded as the best thing that's happened to Sheldon. Loved that he's willing to fight anyone over this (not endorsing violence but the sentiment, just to be clear).

- It's a bit annoying that that one scene really played out as Penny only being able to get him out of his funk (the TR kinda felt a bit different, but that's always the danger) but it felt very mothering him (like when Mary is fed up with Sheldon) and I liked that Amy isn't swallowing her annoyance, if nothing else because it tells me the show very aware of what it's doing here.

- In general like @mirs1 said in the other thread a lot of the jokes felt very "meta" and I liked that.

- Loved Amy's sassy remarks sprinkled through all of this. Mayim's delivery was spot on! And we even got a cameo of Science Amy! <3

- Last but not least, I've been talking about it since we knew Bert would show up at the brunch and I didn't get it then but now finally I got my wish of having a "Sheldon stares angry at the friendly giant" scene. YAY! I'm so so sorry, I guess I have such a stupid sense of humour but seeing Sheldon who looks like this huge built guy next to the rest of the usual cast hobble up to Bert who is so much bigger and trying to assert his superiority thanks to having Amy by having to stare up to him made me laugh so much. Idk why I find this so funny but I'm happy that I got it. LOL

So yeah, I felt well entertained overall!