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32 minutes ago, serena_1995 said:

Haha, yes I totally agree, there needs to be some kind of resolution. My stance also changes all the time depending on your and others' opinions ! Recently i found some Lenny shippers make valid points about their frustrations.  The writers in general are not very good with follow ups IMO. They try something and leave it there.  Coming back to Shamy, sometimes I feel that fans want coitus  to happen even more than the actual characters.LOL. I think the writers are the ones guilty of spreading mixed signals here. 

One of my sisters watches the show but in a kind of semi spoiled way, she will ask me something specifically about the show that she is wondering about and if I know anything related to it but overall spoilers for everything she tends to just avoid.

She asked me what must have been a couple of episodes back if Shamy had sex again yet and I told her no not yet. And her response was if they enjoyed it so much which was clearly evident in Opening Night why hadn't they done it since? I struggled to come up with a concrete answer from a 'character' perspective especially when the question was phrased in that way (from a writers perspective there are plenty of reasons why).

I would imagine there must be lot of people thinking the very same, so some mixed signals indeed.

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Ha, I feel like I almost always wind up in the minority about this sort of thing. I remember foaming at the mouth all last season while the bulk of the remaining posters on here were tranquil. and now with so much baffled - if not ire, then chagrin - going around, I find myself saying 'Eh, the last couple of episodes don't sound great, but I see no reason yet to man the lifeboats.'

I guess my thing is: so long as they don't walk back the respect, enjoyment and desire that the Shamy have for each other, then sex is secondary. Yes, it's odd that two consenting - and up for it - adults who are sharing living quarters and a bed haven't acted on their desire, but it's not actively offensive to me. What was actively offensive to me was that, in the aftermath of coitus, Amy so repeatedly indicated that she had a fabulous time, while Sheldon never said so. That the show set up opportunities for Sheldon to express desire, and then snatched away the plate shrieking 'Bazinga!', while Sheldon looked oblivious and Amy looked annoyed. That the pair were so seldom allowed to display the intuitive understanding and shared quirk that made me fall for them.

This? Eh, I can take a little bit of ultraviolet in the testicular region, as a viewer, if Sheldon and Amy are allowed to be freaky and eccentric and pedantic and to get all steamed up in the glasses about those qualities in each other.

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My husband is a casual viewer that occasionally skips episodes.  After seeing Geology Elevation, Amy's line of "Sounds like the night we had coitus." confused him.  

Hubby:. He asks "why" every time they have sex?

Me:. They only had sex once on her birthday last year.

Hubby: (pausing the tv) wait a minute...they now live together, are sleeping in the same bed, make out with each other and according to the show, have been living at Penny's for at least a couple of months now and they haven't [email protected]@ked again yet?

Me:. No.

Hubby:. Bullshit.  

Me: yeah but....

Hubby:. Bullshit.  I might not watch this show as obsessively as you do but let me tell you what I see.  They've both had sex on the brain throughout their however many years of dating without doing anything about it.  She finally dumps his ass because he is one and when he finally gets her back, he nails her before anybody else gets a chance to and makes some stupid remark about doing it next year for her xmas gift...

Me: birthday

Hubby:  Whatever....despite the fact they both said they liked it, they're going to wait a year to do it again?

Me:. (stunned look on my face with nothing to say)

Hubby:. I don't care how weird a guy is.  When we likes something, especially sex, we're going to do it again.  Not wait a whole damn year.  Especially if we're sleeping right next to her every night.  (Gets up in frustration). How the hell can you still like this stupid show...

Its pretty hard to keep defending the writers when the "puppet strings" are even obvious to a casual viewer.

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1 hour ago, Kathy2611 said:

My husband is a casual viewer that occasionally skips episodes.  After seeing Geology Elevation, Amy's line of "Sounds like the night we had coitus." confused him.  

Hubby:. He asks "why" every time they have sex?

Me:. They only had sex once on her birthday last year.

Hubby: (pausing the tv) wait a minute...they now live together, are sleeping in the same bed, make out with each other and according to the show, have been living at Penny's for at least a couple of months now and they haven't [email protected]@ked again yet?

Me:. No.

Hubby:. Bullshit.  

Me: yeah but....

Hubby:. Bullshit.  I might not watch this show as obsessively as you do but let me tell you what I see.  They've both had sex on the brain throughout their however many years of dating without doing anything about it.  She finally dumps his ass because he is one and when he finally gets her back, he nails her before anybody else gets a chance to and makes some stupid remark about doing it next year for her xmas gift...

Me: birthday

Hubby:  Whatever....despite the fact they both said they liked it, they're going to wait a year to do it again?

Me:. (stunned look on my face with nothing to say)

Hubby:. I don't care how weird a guy is.  When we likes something, especially sex, we're going to do it again.  Not wait a whole damn year.  Especially if we're sleeping right next to her every night.  (Gets up in frustration). How the hell can you still like this stupid show...

Its pretty hard to keep defending the writers when the "puppet strings" are even obvious to a casual viewer.

 

But we can't dictate and predict someone's behavior and sex life. We can't force someone else to act a certain way in a certain situation, just because we would have acted that way if we were in their shoes.

We can't  force 2 people to have sex if they seem comfortable without it , at the moment. If Sheldon and Amy are happy with the current situation ,  what is the problem ?  If once a year works for them, what is the issue ? Didn't  Amy say once a year works for her immediately in 9x11 ? Has Amy explicitely told Sheldon, she wants to have sex ? I don't  think so. She actively took sex off the table herself and turned him down in 10.08. Has Sheldon explicitely told Amy he can't wait ? I don't recall except for 10.08. 

Have either Sheldon or Amy expressed their anger or frustration recently TO EACH OTHER about not getting what they want from the one another , in all the time they lived together ? i don't recall . 

So i dont see the big deal, yet. If sex or lack of sex leads to an actual fight or confrontation or even an honest discussion between  Sheldon and Amy , only then will I worry.

Sometimes there is so much spoken and unspoken pressure to have sex when it comes to Shamy, that it poisons my enjoyment and ignores that Shamy have actually had the funniest and sweetest plots in s10 in a long time IMO. 

This is just my opinion ofcourse.

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9 minutes ago, serena_1995 said:

 

But we can't dictate and predict someone's behavior and sex life. We can't force someone else to act a certain way in a certain situation, just because we would have acted that way if we were in their shoes.

 

We can't  force 2 people to have sex if they seem comfortable without it , at the moment. If Sheldon and Amy are happy with the current situation ,  what is the problem ?  If once a year works for them, what is the issue ? Didn't  Amy say once a year works for her immediately in 9x11 ? Has Amy explicitely told Sheldon, she wants to have sex ? I don't  think so. She actively took sex off the table herself and turned him down in 10.08. Has Sheldon explicitely told Amy he can't wait ? I don't recall except for 10.08. 

Have either Sheldon or Amy expressed their anger or frustration recently TO EACH OTHER about not getting what they want from the one another , in all the time they lived together ? i don't recall . 

So i dont see the big deal, yet. If sex or lack of sex leads to an actual fight or confrontation between Sheldon and Amy ,  only then will I worry.

Sometimes there is so much spoken and unspoken pressure to have sex when it comes to Shamy, that it poisons my enjoyment and ignores that Shamy have actually had the funniest and sweetest plots in s10 in a long time IMO. 

This is just my opinion ofcourse.

If we were talking about REAL people, I would totally agree with you and defend their decision but these are fictional characters being controlled and manipulated by the writers to do, say and feel what THEY want.  Not what Sheldon & Amy would do from everything we've been shown so far.

And it's not just "shippers" that feel something's "off."  Casual viewers see it too.  

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Just for the record: I'm not unhappy with how Shamy are written cause evidentially they are on the same page as is. They are happily shacked up and totally into each other and I couldn't be more satisfied with those developments. So that part is fine with me. Really.

There is a bit of uneasiness right now though cause the "when will they do it again?" question hangs over them for almost a year now and it's time to wrap that storyline up. So my concerns are really just from an out-of-universe perspective and mostly with regards to the timing. The writers set up the premise with 9x11 and the "next year" line, then there were several teases sprinkled here and there to keep the joke alive. And right now we're at a point were both have been shown to get all hot and bothered suggesting that they'd be up for the next round of coitus. Now, Amy taking it off the table for the experiment was understandable and there was the explicit mention of them revisiting the topic once they're settled in. The experiment was over in 10x07 and the very next episode Sheldon goes a bit haywire over the idea of making babies, which should tell the viewer now that it's time to revisit the topic to figure out an agreement. But we haven't gotten that with 10x09 or 10x10 which leaves viewers with huge ???????? over their heads and it'll turn into disinterest or even anger if this gets dragged out even further.

Anyway, all this worrying might just be much ado about nothing (as it often is). Even though the timing might be a bit off the writers have proven more than once in recent episodes that they have a great handle on Shamy these days. So fingers crossed for 10x11 and all that...

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49 minutes ago, April said:

Just for the record: I'm not unhappy with how Shamy are written cause evidentially they are on the same page as is. They are happily shacked up and totally into each other and I couldn't be more satisfied with those developments. So that part is fine with me. Really.

There is a bit of uneasiness right now though cause the "when will they do it again?" question hangs over them for almost a year now and it's time to wrap that storyline up. So my concerns are really just from an out-of-universe perspective and mostly with regards to the timing. The writers set up the premise with 9x11 and the "next year" line, then there were several teases sprinkled here and there to keep the joke alive. And right now we're at a point were both have been shown to get all hot and bothered suggesting that they'd be up for the next round of coitus. Now, Amy taking it off the table for the experiment was understandable and there was the explicit mention of them revisiting the topic once they're settled in. The experiment was over in 10x07 and the very next episode Sheldon goes a bit haywire over the idea of making babies, which should tell the viewer now that it's time to revisit the topic to figure out an agreement. But we haven't gotten that with 10x09 or 10x10 which leaves viewers with huge ???????? over their heads and it'll turn into disinterest or even anger if this gets dragged out even further.

Anyway, all this worrying might just be much ado about nothing (as it often is). Even though the timing might be a bit off the writers have proven more than once in recent episodes that they have a great handle on Shamy these days. So fingers crossed for 10x11 and all that...

Yeah there is a lot to be happy about right now and overall there shouldn't be any major panic even if you may have a concern or two or some criticism about a particular storyline.

One week we will either get a taping report or see some promo information and it will all be resolved one way or the other. :)

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Yeah, either way we would keep repeating ourselves until we have more info. It is not bad, I love sharing and reading  but we need that some of our predictions get real soon and that more facts come up for  we discuss here passionately and unplanned. :)

Writers, the keys are "passionately" and "unplanned".Because Sheldon is just letting  go one by one all his planned schedules. :wink:

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28 minutes ago, Soopysue said:

Did you guys see this already ??!! 

Yes, I have posted it last night in Mayim 's thread, as it was posted by her...

It seems they were waiting for news, maybe waiting  for the baby? :)

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38 minutes ago, April said:

Yep, looks like the whole gang will meet the baby. I hope this is just a short scene and not them hanging out at the hospital the whole episode. Fingers crossed!

Exactly my thoughts !!! :) 

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What I am more curious about is what might be the other storyline of this episode, the baby would not take the whole episode...

Would be what we are waiting for? Hum... 

I am with you, girls. I hope it is just a short scene, a great episode has at least two nice storylines. 

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30 minutes ago, spidergirl said:

What I am more curious about is what might be the other storyline of this episode, the baby would not take the whole episode...

Would be what we are waiting for? Hum... 

I am with you, girls. I hope it is just a short scene, a great episode has at least two nice storylines. 

Friends did a entire episode in the hospital, where chandler and monica end up in the closet practicing :D

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2 minutes ago, Chiany said:

Friends did a entire episode in the hospital, where chandler and monica end up in the closet practicing :D

Oh I like how it sounds, lol! Shamy in a closet? If we had cosmic casanova.... :icon_cheesygrin:

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27 minutes ago, Chiany said:

Friends did a entire episode in the hospital, where chandler and monica end up in the closet practicing :D

Regardless of ships, I would hate an entire episode in the hospital. Howardette is a supporting couple so there should be another plot.

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1 minute ago, Judith said:

Regardless of ships, I would hate an entire episode in the hospital. Howardette is a supporting couple so there should be another plot.

They can, even "stuck" in a hospital there can be other stories.

Sheldon looking back to all the hospital visits he did as a kid for example, and go from there.

Or all other couples reflect on their lifes while waiting.

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Happy taping day, shamy friends! :) 

May the shamy force be with us! :wub:

I am ready for everythig about this episode. Cuteness, goodness, craziness, sexyness, bringing them up! *fans self*

Expectations? As usual, they are high! I gave up of trying to keep them low, lol!  It makes all thing more exciting! :icon_cheesygrin:

 

 

 

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Happy taping day everyone! :)

I'm expecting it will mostly be a Howardette focused episode but that's not a bad thing in my eyes, I have enjoyed the storyline very much and want to see it finally pay off. It's a big development for the show and it deserves all the attention it will get.

Hopefully we get some sweet moments between Shamy at the hospital as they wait for news. I hope the writers resist the urge to have Sheldon moan about hospitals again and 'people coming out of people'. I would like to see the gang perhaps talk about what's going to happen going forward and be a little bit excited about it. :)

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3 hours ago, Maddie said:

THANK YOU.

It is so irksome to see so many people exclaim that there's something wrong with Shamy if they haven't had sex in a year. I mean, I get it. I want them to have sex too. And I know, it's really weird for a couple to not have sex for year. But does that make it wrong? Think about it. Is there any "right" way to have sex? If Shamy are both happy - which this season has done a great job of showing they are - then why should we dictate when they should have sex?

And I keep seeing people say that Amy wants more, she's not satisfied. Come on. Amy is a grown ass woman. If she wanted sex so badly, why hasn't she told Sheldon that she wanted to have sex? And I'm not talking about these couple of throw-away jokey lines from last season where she subtly hinted at wanting in his pants that he will never understand. I'm talking about Amy being direct and broaching the topic and being forward enough to ask him to put it back on the table. If she could be direct enough to say, "hey, while we're adjusting to living together, lets abstain from sex for awhile," she can be direct enough to say, "hey, now that we're adjusted, let's talk about this. I think we're ready to do it again."

What is she waiting for? For Sheldon to outright tell her she's making him horny and swat her butt? For him to go all out Casanova with candles and music and wine? For him to passionately make out with her after an argument? Oh but wait - he's done all those things. He's given her every green light possible. So it's all on Amy right now. She has all the power to broach the subject again and say, "hey, I don't want to have a baby yet, but I'm interested in having coitus again." But, as far as we know, Amy hasn't done that. And if she was so unsatisfied and sex-hungry, as people seem to claim, is there really any reason she wouldn't? Like I sincerely want to get to the bottom of this, because I just don't understand how so many people have latched onto this idea.

That being said, I do really want them to have sex soon. And I think they will. But if it doesn't happen for a while, I'm not gonna start thinking there's something wrong with Shamy. They have been so perfect this season.

This ^!

Amy is indeed who should aproach the subject again as she was who put it off the table and who also refused having it when Sheldon wanted. Well, Amy did right to refuse, it was sex for the wrong reasons, I think they should have a talk about that, even it might be more likely to happen off screen. But if we could get an hint they discussed it, it would be great imo. We should have had an hint that they discuss their relationship when they reunited and it missed imo.

I believe that one of biggest problems of most of shamy fans right now (included me) is the expectation that shamy would be having sex again until episode 11. And if they havent had it in tonight taping report?

We probably would be a bit disapointed but honestly, there is nothing to worry about. It is only a question of time, as they havent ever been so great about each other as they are now. The show has 24 episodes, we are almost in middle. The writers goal for first half might be the la all settled and baby birth. Who knows if the second half would be about more development about Raj's storyplot ( which is really hard to believe but still) , about a nice lenny storyplot and shamy getting into the last parameter of their la experimente, coitus. Maybe an engagement in season finnale might happeb if the show is renewed. Everythig is possible and that is what  keeps all of this so interistig imo.

With love and respect everything is possible in a couple 's life. No matter if they have sex everyday or once in month, if they travel much or love to be at home watching netflix as they cuddle in couch  , want have children or not, if they like cooking or prefer order food. What matters is that they live together as they were one but with those personal things well balanced with the couple things. Because nobody looses their identity for dating someone and that has been so well done about Sheldon and Amy. THat I believe writers will keep the great work about them, even if we have to wait a bit more for some events to happen or to repeat in their lives :)

 

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