Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 10

[spidergirl]

19 minutes ago, Lia said:

Do you guys think they bring the spockumentary back in the other half of the season ? 

I am not sure if  the spockmentary might be brought back. For the way things are between shamy , it could bring back a sad moment and I honesty don't want sadness for them . It might be a reason for a talk about breaking up but I think after the way they had been sorting things out between them, it is not necessary being brought back a subject like their breaking up time. I really hope it was only a thing for we had seen how suffering was Sheldon for loosing Amy in that time he participated on it.

They now are in same page and past is past.

 

Edited December 20, 2016 by spidergirl

[April]

10 minutes ago, Lia said:

Do you guys think they bring the spockumentary back in the other half of the season ? 

I'm not sure. It's been out for a while now (Sep 9th) and I'd think they would have watched it by now. Then again they now share a Netflix account so maybe one evening they could stumble over it and watch it while snuggling on the couch or something.

The real Spockumentary had the bit in which Sheldon talks about emulating Spock because of all the bullying. I always find that part so heartbreaking and I guess that could be an interesting moment for Shamy if Amy were to see that.

If nothing else maybe by watching the Spockumentary Amy gains some more appreciation for Star Trek. LOL

[spidergirl]

59 minutes ago, Lia said:

I dont want sadness or the whole break up thing back belife me. I like shamy in season 10 very much 

I just read this spockumentary thing somewhere and i thought about it.

I dont want bring sad feelings in this thead :D

These moments we saw Sheldon participating in the spockmentary are not all in the real one, so it is possible it being brought to a sweet shamy plotline as @April said as they watch it as they snuggling on coach ( Love as it sounds). They might see it and speak about ST fanbase and the meaning of Leonard Nimoy for that . However it could be interisting imo Amy had acess to those Sheldon 's parts he talked about the ring, maybe she finding them in his laptop as they could share it. Not nothing too drama centered as I said im my earlier post , they would not need it now but maybe as a way she could say a few things about what maters is they rebuilt their relationship and she might say having him is more important than anything, rings included. That it could wait until they were ready for it.

Edited December 20, 2016 by spidergirl
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[mirs1]

10.12 promo pics are up...Sheldon is really doing it best in showing him mother he is angry at her, LOL!!! Can you notice if something is changed in 4A living room? I kinda think there is just one desk, but I'm not sure...

Edit: There are two desks, but the one that was Sheldon's now has Penny's (?) stuff on it...

Edited December 20, 2016 by mirs1

[April]

8 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

10.12 promo pics are up...Sheldon is really doing it best in showing him mother he is angry at her, LOL!!! Can you notice if something is changed in 4A living room? I kinda think there is just one desk, but I'm not sure...

Oh boy, the cringe will be strong in this one - at least certain parts. The gang all in 4A look cute though! <3

Not sure about the decoration, it's hard to telly by the photos...

[mirs1]

1 minute ago, April said:

Oh boy, the cringe will be strong in this one - at least certain parts. The gang all in 4A look cute though! <3

Not sure about the decoration, it's hard to telly by the photos...

In some pics you can still see Leonard's desk, whereas on the one which was Sheldon's I've seen a pink laptop  and something wish seems a round brush, so I guess it could be Penny's desk now...

[April]

Just now, mirs1 said:

In some pics you can still see Leonard's desk, whereas on the one which was Sheldon's I've seen a pink laptop  and something wish seems a round brush, so I guess it could be Penny's desk now...

Yeah, I just saw it after I read your comment in the other thread! :D

[mirs1]

Just now, April said:

Yeah, I just saw it after I read your comment in the other thread! :D

Anyway, you are right, some of Sheldon's scenes are going to be a bit...controversial, LOL! But the pics where Mary is praying before dinner was nice and overall, even if they are not as cute as the pics in 10.11, there are some cute Shamy pics...

[April]

2 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

Anyway, you are right, some of Sheldon's scenes are going to be a bit...controversial, LOL! But the pics where Mary is praying before dinner was nice and overall, even if they are not as cute as the pics in 10.11, there are some cute Shamy pics...

LOL yeah, I get what he's trying to prove with this but I'll be sitting here facepalming like "Oh honey, no..."

As said, the 4A stuff looks pretty cute though and Shamy seem in a good mood. So as terrible/embarrassing their trip might have been they're over it.

[spidergirl]

First time this season I am not fond of all promo photos, lol! But at least shamy looked like they were in good mood, so they realy fix their issues quickly and that makes me happy

Oh was only me who thought of the film "3 men and a baby" about that photo of Raj, Stuart and Howard, lol?

January 5 is so far yet.... Had to rewatch the 11 episodes these days of holidays time!

Edited December 20, 2016 by spidergirl

[mirs1]

7 minutes ago, spidergirl said:

First time this season I am not fond of all promo photos, lol! But at least shamy looked like they were in good mood, so they realy fix their issues quickly and that makes me happy

Oh was only me who thought of the film "3 men and a baby" about that photo of Raj, Stuart and Howard, lol?

January 5 is so far yet.... Had to rewatch the 11 episodes these days of holidays time!

Re-watch time for me too, I remember last season it was useful to come to terms with the break up story arc. Binge watching the episodes made the whole story clearer and I could appreciate also the design behind that. Of course, knowing that everything ended well, helped a lot, LOL! This year, instead, I will just sit and watch our babies progressing in their relationship and having such a good time together....it's going to be a hoot!

[spidergirl]

After staring at the promo photos very carefully, I have noticed there is one photo where our beloved couple 's feet are touching. Oh man, I am like this:

 

Those two are two adorable for their own good!Oh and the smiles that were happening there?  *sighs *

Edited December 20, 2016 by spidergirl

[Jonny]

I like how their body language and expressions are in 4A, presumably listening to how Lenny and Howardette spent their time? But the scenes at Mary's place look a bit silly or cringe worthy. Looking forward more to some of the other storylines in this one truth be told.

I shouldn't complain really not after the previous episode and all the Shamy goodness we have witnessed so far this season.

Edited December 20, 2016 by Jonny

[AllyAnne]

I like how their body language and expressions are in 4A, presumably listening to how Lenny and Howardette spent their time? But the scenes at Mary's place look a bit silly or cringe worthy. Looking forward more to some of the other storylines in this one and the episode after it truth be told.
I shouldn't complain really not after the previous episode and all the Shamy goodness we have witnessed so far this season.

I agree about the Texas storyline.
I'm most excited about seeing the whole group together again.


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[mirs1]

9 hours ago, AllyAnne said:

I agree about the Texas storyline.
I'm most excited about seeing the whole group together again.
 

I agree; it's a pity, in a way, because the premises of Shamy's visit to Texas were interesting. We were all wondering how Mary could have handled the news his son is living in sin with his girlfriend...The execution apparently is off, with Mary expressing the unpleasant concern that she thought his "difficult" kid would have been unhappy and alone all his life, Sheldon reacting like a little child and Amy having already spilled the beans about the whole thing...Probably on screen it will turn out to be funny, but not sure it is the "kind" of funny I like. The group scenes sound more promising, I like the idea the very first episode after Halley is born, they have a group episode (kind-of) and a dinner in 4A which includes the baby. It shows that Halley will add something to the mix, she will not change the dynamics so much. Plus, we have the bonus of flirty Shamy, with Amy saying that Sheldon looked like a pirate with his earring and Sheldon being all flattered by it...That seems cute!

[April]

6 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

I agree; it's a pity, in a way, because the premises of Shamy's visit to Texas were interesting. We were all wondering how Mary could have handled the news his son is living in sin with his girlfriend...The execution apparently is off, with Mary expressing the unpleasant concern that she thought his "difficult" kid would have been unhappy and alone all his life, Sheldon reacting like a little child and Amy having already spilled the beans about the whole thing...Probably on screen it will turn out to be funny, but not sure it is the "kind" of funny I like.

I'll be counting our blessings here and say: At least he's doing it intentionally to prove a point however silly it may be. In early seasons this guy would have a meltdown and actually regress into a child-like state and he would have been bribed with a toy to behave better or whatever - I am grateful that we're past this. He has a better awareness and control in these kinds of situations now so in a way, hooray for progress??

But yeah, it's a pity the story goes the way it does. I can deal with Mary saying something along the lines of "I never thought you'd find someone." It's exactly the kind of well-meaning but ultimately insulting thing parents like her would say all the time. I also like the idea of Sheldon being rightfully angry about that. Heck, I don't even mind him doing something silly as some sort of rebellious act because he probably never did that in his teens like his siblings did. So whatever. But the result is a bit over the top and I'll surely have to cringe my way through this. lol

Anyway, I ultimately hope the point that Sheldon has become more mature and doesn't want to be coddled anymore isn't lost in translation - at least to Amy. (Parents always see you as their little child no matter how old you are. lol)

6 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

The group scenes sound more promising, I like the idea the very first episode after Halley is born, they have a group episode (kind-of) and a dinner in 4A which includes the baby. It shows that Halley will add something to the mix, she will not change the dynamics so much. Plus, we have the bonus of flirty Shamy, with Amy saying that Sheldon looked like a pirate with his earring and Sheldon being all flattered by it...That seems cute!

Yes, I love that as well!! <3 We haven't gotten a proper group episode in a long while but at least the writers try to keep up the tradition of 4A dinners.

[Jonny]

35 minutes ago, April said:

I'll be counting our blessings here and say: At least he's doing it intentionally to prove a point however silly it may be. In early seasons this guy would have a meltdown and actually regress into a child-like state and he would have been bribed with a toy to behave better or whatever - I am grateful that we're past this. He has a better awareness and control in these kinds of situations now so in a way, hooray for progress??

But yeah, it's a pity the story goes the way it does. I can deal with Mary saying something along the lines of "I never thought you'd find someone." It's exactly the kind of well-meaning but ultimately insulting thing parents like her would say all the time. I also like the idea of Sheldon being rightfully angry about that. Heck, I don't even mind him doing something silly as some sort of rebellious act because he probably never did that in his teens like his siblings did. So whatever. But the result is a bit over the top and I'll surely have to cringe my way through this. lol

Anyway, I ultimately hope the point that Sheldon has become more mature and doesn't want to be coddled anymore isn't lost in translation - at least to Amy. (Parents always see you as their little child no matter how old you are. lol)

Yes, I love that as well!! <3 We haven't gotten a proper group episode in a long while but at least the writers try to keep up the tradition of 4A dinners.

I'm 100% reserving my judgement when it comes to the Amy/Mary/Sheldon interactions in this one until I have seen it. They could edit some scenes and it and come across in a different way entirely. I was personally cringing at the whole Sheldon has his underpants on his head and wearing flippers or whatever they are called photos lol but again the whole dialogue and how it plays out are key here.

I can only speak for myself but I have no major concerns going into this 

Edited December 21, 2016 by Jonny

[A Shamy gal]

I can understand Amy ‘pre-warning’ Mary, but it is surprising that she’s OK with them living together.  I also understand Mary’s “I never thought you'd find someone” and although Sheldon putting underwear on his head and flippers on his feet is silly, he is doing it to make a point. 

 

I am wondering if it is a prequel to them telling Amy’s mother they’re living together.  She doesn’t confirm that she has told her mother, so maybe that’s something to come.  I can’t imagine both mothers would be OK with them living together.  Having Mrs Fowler be the one who doesn’t approve would be the opportunity to not only have her make an appearance but have her and Sheldon interacting.   

[spidergirl]

Parents always see their offspring like they would be forever children for them, it is something about parenthood that is inhereted to them. Sheldon was a different child in many ways and it is plausible that Mary , plus she was mother and father most of time of her children, her sense of protectiveness is even bigger, a bit overeacted on some situations. What happened in Texas imo is a normal familiar situation, Mary likes Amy but she is very protective of her son that a few years ago yet needed someone to sing Soft kitty and rubbing Vaporub on his chest when he was sick. Sheldon grew up , Mary knows but she cant help herseld of saying things like she said. It is forgiven material. What realy makes me happy is Sheldon stood up for himself as he is an adult.  It might have not been done in most adult way but he felt the need to stand up and it is something.  I believe the episode will be very enjoyable, underwear on head  apart, lol!

The emotions that some shamy promo photos held are so meaningful as how good they are now that as usual  I can't wait for see the whole thing on screen.

Btw, I undetstand Amy spilling the beans about cohabitation.  She might just  wanted to put the possible tension from Sheldon side a bit more litle. But she should have talked with him first. I am sure she would do it next time.

Edited December 21, 2016 by spidergirl
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[April]

16 minutes ago, A Shamy gal said:

I am wondering if it is a prequel to them telling Amy’s mother they’re living together.  She doesn’t confirm that she has told her mother, so maybe that’s something to come.  I can’t imagine both mothers would be OK with them living together.  Having Mrs Fowler be the one who doesn’t approve would be the opportunity to not only have her make an appearance but have her and Sheldon interacting.

I can understand Mary being okay with that because even "living in sin" (lol I love they actually use that phrase in the show) Sheldon is still an angel compared to his siblings in that regard and Shamy are as good as married anyway.

Amy's mother however is such a wild card. I have no clue what this woman's deal is cause we've only seen her once where she was shocked by the news of Amy having a boyfriend (who'd happily proclaim something along the lines of: we'll be off to have sex, nice talking to you, ma'am! LOL). Other than that there were just anecdotes from Amy's childhood that range from painting her as "misguided but well meaning" to "borderline abusive". So I have no idea what she would think about any of this.

The idea that Amy hasn't told her though seems to point into the direction that Mrs. Fowler wouldn't approve and Amy is afraid to spill the beans (much like with the breakup in S9). I do hope though that this "I'll tell your mom" thing will actually lead to a plot of Shamy dealing with Amy's family. I'm almost certain that this probably won't go over all too well, and the humour could come from how terrible Amy's mother is (you couldn't do that with Mary because she's loved Amy from the moment she met her) and Shamy squirming while trying to make a good impression.

The little "she'd be happy you'd finally have some interest in her family" bit from the TR sounds like at the very least the writers are aware they haven't really done much with that. So fingers crossed?

[mirs1]

1 hour ago, April said:

I can understand Mary being okay with that because even "living in sin" (lol I love they actually use that phrase in the show) Sheldon is still an angel compared to his siblings in that regard and Shamy are as good as married anyway.

Amy's mother however is such a wild card. I have no clue what this woman's deal is cause we've only seen her once where she was shocked by the news of Amy having a boyfriend (who'd happily proclaim something along the lines of: we'll be off to have sex, nice talking to you, ma'am! LOL). Other than that there were just anecdotes from Amy's childhood that range from painting her as "misguided but well meaning" to "borderline abusive". So I have no idea what she would think about any of this.

The idea that Amy hasn't told her though seems to point into the direction that Mrs. Fowler wouldn't approve and Amy is afraid to spill the beans (much like with the breakup in S9). I do hope though that this "I'll tell your mom" thing will actually lead to a plot of Shamy dealing with Amy's family. I'm almost certain that this probably won't go over all too well, and the humour could come from how terrible Amy's mother is (you couldn't do that with Mary because she's loved Amy from the moment she met her) and Shamy squirming while trying to make a good impression.

The little "she'd be happy you'd finally have some interest in her family" bit from the TR sounds like at the very least the writers are aware they haven't really done much with that. So fingers crossed?

Yes, Amy's mother is such a mystery, I've no idea about how she can handle the news. I'm not sure she could have about it the same concerns Mary has, Amy never spoke about endless Christmas Eves spent at some church ceremony or of her as a devoted Cristian. The way Amy was raised is quite self-righteous, though, so probably she will not be so pleased of them living together out of the wed-lock. I think Mrs. Fowler shared the same concerns as Mary about her daughter being alone all her life, so she insisted on her dating at least once a year. My guess is that she was happy that Amy got a boyfriend (even if it was a fake boyfriend back in S. 4) and just shocked at the odd dialogue about  the pending intercourse. Not sure she likes Sheldon now, though. For me she thinks he is Amy's best shot (or, better, only shot), and that would explain why Amy was worried to tell her they were broken up. Anyway, the line "She'd be happy you'd finally have some interest in her family" suggests she thinks he is not exactly very respectful towards her and Amy's family in general. Plus, I guess that, as many self-reightous mothers of women in their thirties that have been in a relationship for a long time, she really wants Amy to get married and she thinks Sheldon is dragging things out too long on that respect. It would be hilarious if at some point Amy tells Sheldon out right that her mother hates him and from that moment he tries so hard to be the perfect son-in-law and, in doing so, scares the hell out of her since he acts like a lunatic.

Anyway, I find a bit odd Mrs. Fowler doesn't know about Shamy living together. Mary lives in Texas, so it's easy to hide stuff from her, but she lives few miles away from Amy, is that possible she never visits her or she didn't know about the hydraulic problem in her old apartment?

 

Edited December 21, 2016 by mirs1

[April]

18 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

 It would be hilarious if at some point Amy tells Sheldon out right that her mother hates him and from that moment he tries so hard to be the perfect son-in-law and, in doing so, scare the hell out of her since he acts like a lunatic.

LOL That would be hilarious!

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Anyway, I find a bit odd Mrs. Fowler doesn't know about Shamy living together. Mary lives in Texas, so it's easy to hide stuff from her, but she lives few miles away from Amy, is that possible she never visits her or she didn't know about the hydraulic problem in her old apartment?

If we believe Penny when she outright said that Amy and her mother aren't close - and with those childhood anecdotes I have no problem believing that! - then I don't think they'd see or talk to each other more often than necessary. If Amy told her about the damage to her apartment she could have just said that for the time being she lives at Penny's place and it wouldn't even be a lie. We also don't know how nosey her mother is so who knows if she'd even check after 5 weeks if everything is fixed? We don't even know if she ever visited Amy in her old apartment. So all in all the writers could easily do whatever they want with this plotline, there's not much that would logically stand against it.

Edited December 21, 2016 by April

[mirs1]

10 minutes ago, April said:

So all in all the writers could easily do whatever they want with this plotline, there's not much that would logically stand against it.

That's true, we know  so little about Mrs. Fowler (do we even know what's her first name?), that nothing the writers can say about her could contradict canon in any form, LOL!!!

Edited December 21, 2016 by mirs1

[Jonny]

Yeah there are so many contradictions when it comes to Amy's mother so if they do explore it at some point I would be be very interested to see what the real truth is.

We got hints that she is strict, most likely religious especially when you factor in the concept of a sin closet and yet she was the one pushing Amy to date at least once a year (and Amy's reluctance to tell her that she had split up with Sheldon could have various connotations). I think and suspect she is probably somewhere in between, she was strict but likely a life experience made her that way and maybe she has softened? I remember the discussion a while back about perhaps she had Amy young (possibly a teenage pregnancy?) or was hurt badly in a relationship that she went a bit overboard in terms of raising Amy but as she got older probably softened a bit hence encouraging her to meet people and date. Even if someone changes and softens old habits and beliefs can be hard to shift.

Like @April , @mirs1 and others have said they do have a kind of blank canvas with Amy's family should they wish to explore it. But there is no guarantee they will even if Sheldon and Amy get engaged and are planning a wedding at some point - a natural thing to do would be for Sheldon to get to know her family better in that scenario.

One one hand Sheldon may actually be more friendly and may have interacted more with Amy's family than we think, like Lenny already knowing their partner's families Sheldon may have actually interacted with them we just haven't seen it. We all remeber that episode when Sheldon would rather play video games than go to one of Amy's family gatherings, but we don't know what happened after that episode and what was learnt from that. It's perfectly plausible that Sheldon went to another family function at a later time having learned a lesson.

On the other hand there are a lot of mysteries on the show, we never saw Howard's mother, still don't know Penny's maiden name and there are other mysteries I am probably forgetting but Amy's family could easily be added to the list.

I guess what probably should give us some encouragement is Amy's line about Sheldon telling her mother and actually taking some interest in her family. That might indicate something could happen with that. Sheldon doesn't forget and the new Sheldon is taking on board a lot of new stuff and seeking experiences. Maybe he will do just that lol.

Edited December 21, 2016 by Jonny

[spidergirl]

7 minutes ago, Jonny said:

Yeah there are so many contradictions when it comes to Amy's mother so if they do explore it at some point I would be be very interested to see what the real truth is.

We got hints that she is strict, most likely religious especially when you factor in the concept of a sin closet and yet she was the one pushing Amy to date at least once a year (and Amy's reluctance to tell her that she had split up with Sheldon could have various connotations). I think suspect she is probably somewhere in between, she was strict but likely a life experience made her that way? I remember the discussion a while back about perhaps she had Amy young (possibly a teenage pregnancy?) or was hurt badly in a relationship that she went a bit overboard but as she got older probably softened a bit hence encouraging her to meet people and date. Even if someone changes and softens old habits and beliefs can be hard to shift.

I think like @April and @mirs1 said they do have a kind of blank canvas with Amy's family should they wish to explore it. But there is no guarantee they will even if Sheldon and Amy get engaged and are planning a wedding at some point - a natural thing to do would be for Sheldon to get to know her family better in that scenario.

One one hand Sheldon may actually be more friendly and may have interacted more with Amy's family than we think, like Lenny already knowing their partner's families Sheldon may have actually interacted with them we just haven't seen it. We all know that episode when Sheldon would rather play video games than go to one of Amy's family gatherings, but we don't know what happened after that episode and what was learnt from that. It's perfectly plausible that Sheldon went to another family function at a later time having learned a lesson.

On the other hand there are a lot of mysteries on the show, we never saw Howard's mother, don't know Penny's maiden name and there are other mysteries I am probably forgetting but Amy's family could easily be added to the list.

I guess what probably should give us some encouragement is Amy's line about Sheldon telling her mother and actually taking some interest in her family. That might indicate something could happen with that. Sheldon doesn't forget and the new Sheldon is taking on board a lot of new stuff. Maybe he will do just that lol.

We know anything about Amy's father, not a single mention so far. It would be great if we know what happened to him. Also writers said in s9 we would know more about Amy's family and the chance was lost. Maybe we get it soon, as it would be a shame if we only met them for shamy wedding. 

Edited December 21, 2016 by spidergirl