mirs1 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 1 hour ago, April said: LMAO I'm surprised they didn't have the heated argument from 10x04 in it! Let's fix that, LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) In terms of hopes for the remainder of Season 10 more of the same would be fine with me but if they want to tell some other stories with the other characters and have Shamy in the background happy in their love nest of 4B for a while that would also be fine. I feel pretty fulfilled already when it comes to Shamy this season. Of course if an engagement happens I would be very happy for them but it's not essential this season as long as we get more seasons I guess. Learning more about Amy's family like others have said is high on my list not only from Amy's character perspective but also the impact on Sheldon, but if we get more seasons maybe they could hold off for now on telling that story. More developments in terms of their love life would be great to see but again not essential especially if they are happy. Sheldon's career is probably tied up with the guidance system project so we might not get much development on that front for a while. But I would like to see Amy have a big scientific project or breakthrough and having Sheldon being immensely proud and supporting her. Maybe have some work events that they go to, or perhaps she gets an Award for her work and Sheldon gushing about her. Of course more decorating could be cool and maybe an episode tied to that like going to IKEA for furniture lol. Though by the sounds of it Molaro and co don't want to make major changes to 4A or 4B as they are both seen as iconic settings so perhaps that's not a feasible idea. Any occasion for them to go away could be fun, maybe they go away for Valentines day this year and it's a truly romantic occasion for both of them now as they are so loved up? Whatever they have planned I trust the writers, sure they could throw in some drama in their relationship again as life isn't rosy all the time but they are so strong I think they could get through pretty much anything life throws at them right now. Edited December 27, 2016 by Jonny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidergirl Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 25 minutes ago, mirs1 said: Let's fix that, LOL! Love the fierly way they look at each other! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Hope everyone had fun these days For the rest of the season, I'd like the usual...Career success for Amy and a plot including her family and as mirs1 said, especially her father. As far as Sheldon and Amy are concerned, what I'd like is an episode or two with some drama where they're supporting each other in whatever way. They've had their fun living together so now I want to see how they'd deal with something serious. (Though I still want them to go to that flag con too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serena_1995 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) 11 hours ago, Jonny said: But I would like to see Amy have a big scientific project or breakthrough and having Sheldon being immensely proud and supporting her. Maybe have some work events that they go to, or perhaps she gets an Award for her work and Sheldon gushing about her. . I want Amy to have career success too provided it does not become all about Sheldon's ego. I also want Sheldon to have some career success, provided he is humble and mature about it. But I think, for the bold part, Amy magically getting an award/scientific breakthrough as a plot device to get a gushing reaction from Sheldon would be too easy and too perfect. Research is tough and i would like to see success hand in hand with failures. IMO, these writers need to go beyond the "coolest person" on campus schtick. What I want to see even more, is an episode or two that focus on the challenges Amy faces in neuroscience. It could be about the failures and struggles faced by her, whether it has to do with funding, lack of inspiration, failure to publish a paper, her gender or maybe her own short comings as a scientist ? This is not because I want Amy to fail, but rather because I want her career arc to be multi faceted and flawed like that of Sheldon, Penny and to some extent Howard. I think, out of all the girls, only Penny has been shown to have faced career failures, have her dreams crushed and also come face to face with her own lack of effort /talent/unrealistic expectations/ competition, be it in community college, waitressing or acting. If I look at Sheldon's journey in research, I find it depressing but kinda realistic too. Sheldon can be a genius who can discover an asteroid in minutes and who got an award with Leonard for a paper he wrote in one night. But, at the same time, Sheldon has also been shown to have faced a string of failures like being unable to figure out the math, having his element disproved, discovering he is not good at teaching and even having a near breakdown/ existential crisis about giving up String Theory after 17 years of dead end research , for dark matter. Through Sheldon and Penny, they showed us that, your career trajectory can't always be magically awesome and perfect. I want Amy to have the same depth as Sheldon and Penny. I also liked that one episode about the possible negative repercussions of Bernie's pregnancy on her work life. Coming back to strictly Shamy, I rather liked @koops's idea of having Shamy work together on a project ! I think it could be fun and maybe a proposal could be tied to it. Edited December 28, 2016 by serena_1995 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidergirl Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) I like the idea of a situation that could bring some drama for shamy supporting each other and my favourite scenarios are related with Amy' s family, specifically her father or career challenging for Amy , whatever it might be about she having trouble to achieve a specific experiment result in her researches or trouble as she needed to work at home and had to adjusting her work time with her time with Sheldon. One of other great options would be Sheldon having trouble with Amy 's family and she stand up for defending her relationship with him. And also a good chance for Sheldon to show he is really a grown man in limit situations that might put him in disadvantage. 1 hour ago, serena_1995 said: Coming back to strictly Shamy, I rather liked @koops's idea of having Shamy work together on a project ! I think it could be fun and maybe a proposal could be tied to it. That would be gold! A strong emotional bond that began like their relationship was an experiment as they had never had a so before, that would be tied to a logical conclusion of a proposal made in a lab as they had a work project together : it would be so Amy and Sheldon Edited December 28, 2016 by spidergirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
April Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 1 hour ago, serena_1995 said: I also want Sheldon to have some career success, provided he is humble and mature about it. Seeing how Sheldon is all tied up in the military project I'm not holding my breath for anything big. But it would be nice if he finally had a breakthrough with the maths. 1 hour ago, serena_1995 said: What I want to see even more, is an episode or two that focus on the challenges Amy faces in neuroscience. It could be about the failures and struggles faced by her, whether it has to do with funding, lack of inspiration, failure to publish a paper, her gender or maybe her own short comings as a scientist ? This is not because I want Amy to fail, but rather because I want her career arc to be multi faceted and flawed like that of Sheldon, Penny and to some extent Howard. I think, out of all the girls, only Penny has been shown to have faced career failures, have her dreams crushed and also come face to face with her own lack of effort /talent/unrealistic expectations/ competition, be it in community college, waitressing or acting. Amy actually did have a failure with that monkey study she was involved in before she came to Caltech. IIRC she was removed from it after mistreating the study subjects by flinging their faeces back at them or something. I think it would be great for Amy to have a distinctive long term project again. It probably depends on how long the show has left but seeing her work on something for a while with all its hardships and then after that getting a reward in some form would be very satisfying. Cause right now I have no idea what she's actually doing and she didn't have a coherent string of work related episodes like she had with that addiction study early on. As I've said before: I'd love it if the show would get a proper neuroscience advisor to help the writers figure out a proper plot for Amy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirs1 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, April said: I think it would be great for Amy to have a distinctive long term project again. It probably depends on how long the show has left but seeing her work on something for a while with all its hardships and then after that getting a reward in some form would be very satisfying. Cause right now I have no idea what she's actually doing and she didn't have a coherent string of work related episodes like she had with that addiction study early on. As I've said before: I'd love it if the show would get a proper neuroscience advisor to help the writers figure out a proper plot for Amy. I agree on that, before having Amy facing the inevitable shortcomings in her work, I would like to know what her work is exactly. During the years, she has had some projects here and there, most of which were just played as a joke (the nicotine addiction study, "scaring the crap out of some monkeys", stimulating the pleasure centers in a starfish...), that apparently (for a profane eye) have very little in common with each other. We don't know exactly what her field of interest is. We don't even know what is Amy's position at Caltech. She was supposed to be there as a consultant in the experiment about generating fear in monkeys in S. 7. Since then, she has been still working at Caltech and has been involved in other experiments, but my question is: is she still as a consultant or has she gotten a scholarship or the same position the guys have? It would be nice to see her involved in a long term experiment, such as the nicotine addiction study, which could be a running theme for her during the season. As for Sheldon and Amy working together in a long term project, probably I'm in the minority here, but I'm not exactly a fan. It was very nice to see them working together in 10.8, and that in a way "fulfilled" all my expectations about it. But having them working together on something more substantial would inevitably end up in Sheldon having the "biggest" slice of the cake in terms of air-time and focus, because he is a main character. What I want, now, is to fill the (many) blanks we have in Amy's life, which include some significant aspects of her life like her family and her work, and to concentrate on her in some form. Edited December 28, 2016 by mirs1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidergirl Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) 23 minutes ago, mirs1 said: As for Sheldon and Amy working together in a long term project, probably I'm in the minority here, but I'm not exactly a fan. It was very nice to see them working together in 10.8, and that in a way "fulfilled" all my expectations about it. But having them working together on something more substantial would inevitably end up in Sheldon having the "biggest" slice of the cake in terms of air-time and focus, because he is a main character. What I want, now, is to fill the (many) blanks we have in Amy's life, which include some significant aspects of her life like her family and her work, and to concentrate on her in some form. I am afraid as you said and well ( I am using your words because it was said better than I would do in my own words )"having shamy working together on something more substantial would inevitably end up in Sheldon having the "biggest" slice of the cake in terms of air-time and focus", we might not see some of these many blanks in Amy 's life for the same reason, even I want to see them as much as you. Maybe writers decide doing litle diferent and could focus a bit in Amy's background like she was a main character, even it could just happen in one or two episodes this season. Edited December 28, 2016 by spidergirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirs1 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 13 minutes ago, spidergirl said: I am afraid as you said and well ( I am using your words because it was said better than I would do in my own words )"having shamy working together on something more substantial would inevitably end up in Sheldon having the "biggest" slice of the cake in terms of air-time and focus", we might not see some of these many blanks in Amy 's life for the same reason, even I want to see them as much as you. Maybe writers decide doing litle diferent and could focus a bit in Amy's background like she was a main character, even it could just happen in one or two episodes this season. Oh, I know it's just a wish that most likely will never be fulfilled unless it is useful to tell a "bigger" story, which most likely involves Shamy\Sheldon rather than Amy. But...a girl can dream, right? LOL! Plus, really, I'm not sure it would take a big air time to do so. For example, the nicotine addiction study was not the main focus in the episodes it featured. Amy mentioned it here and there in some throw away line, and this way we knew how it was going and that it ended up in a very inglorious way for her, and there were some brief and funny scenes throughout the episodes that supported the narration of it. That could not take so much air-time/focus on the main characters to do so right now. As for Amy's family, I think that might be trickier. Of course, you need just a throw away line to know where her father is or what her mother does for a living, but I suspect the writers won't do it and her parents (or the reason why her father is not in the picture) will be introduced in relation to Sheldon, for an engagement, for example, or to investigate how "living in sin" is affecting Amy's relationship with her mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 5 hours ago, serena_1995 said: I want Amy to have career success too provided it does not become all about Sheldon's ego. I also want Sheldon to have some career success, provided he is humble and mature about it. But I think, for the bold part, Amy magically getting an award/scientific breakthrough as a plot device to get a gushing reaction from Sheldon would be too easy and too perfect. Research is tough and i would like to see success hand in hand with failures. Totally agree and I guess that could be a real danger as Sheldon is a main character and Amy isn't. Amy has had more screen time this season which has been fantastic and is a large reason why Season 10 has been great, but still what they pay the actors must play a factor in terms of storylines and what perspective they use to create them. Not sure I agree about it being too perfect. I mean if they wanted to have a storyline where Amy is clearly struggling e.g. working long hours and having difficulty with a specific problem in regards to her research or an experiment but then has a big breakthrough that could drive an interesting story but it's not essential IMO. We only get a glimpse of their lives, they could easily have like one line of dialogue saying that Amy struggling with a project but then focus on the positive outcome during the episode. A lot of times this season we have seen situations when you can say look at Sheldon 2.0 and how much he has changed and imagine what he would have been like if that situation had arisen when he was early era Sheldon or Sheldon 1.0. Amy having career success and Sheldon being mega proud but focusing entirely on her and her achievements could be another example of that change. If they were to do a storyline like that but go the Leonard convention route where the person getting an ego boost or praise is going to the wrong person (in this case Sheldon) then I wouldn't want to see that. But these are all just ideas being thrown out there anyway, we don't know what they have planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desdemona Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Jonny said: Totally agree and I guess that could be a real danger as Sheldon is a main character and Amy isn't. Amy has had more screen time this season which has been fantastic and is a large reason why Season 10 has been great, but still what they pay the actors must play a factor in terms of storylines and what perspective they use to create them. Not sure I agree about it being too perfect. I mean if they wanted to have a storyline where Amy is clearly struggling e.g. working long hours and having difficulty with a specific problem in regards to her research or an experiment but then has a big breakthrough that could drive an interesting story but it's not essential IMO. We only get a glimpse of their lives, they could easily have like one line of dialogue saying that Amy struggling with a project but then focus on the positive outcome during the episode. A lot of times this season we have seen situations when you can say look at Sheldon 2.0 and how much he has changed and imagine what he would have been like if that situation had arisen when he was early era Sheldon or Sheldon 1.0. Amy having career success and Sheldon being mega proud but focusing entirely on her and her achievements could be another example of that change. If they were to do a storyline like that but go the Leonard convention route where the person getting an ego boost or praise is going to the wrong person (in this case Sheldon) then I wouldn't want to see that. But these are all just ideas being thrown out there anyway, we don't know what they have planned. It would great indeed to have an episode where Amy struggles with a project and Sheldon encourages her to continue, because he is confident that she can manages it. Encouraged by his words, Amy keeps working on it and catches fire for this project, so much so that we see Amy the passionate scientist, who is so focused on her work that she is fading out everything around her, even Sheldon. It would be hilarious to see the tables turned and Sheldon begging for Amy´s attention, while she simply says "I´m in the zone, no time!" and spends day and night awake until we see the first signs of sleep deprivation on her and Amy turning mad a bit. I would love to see crazy Amy, while Sheldon is disturbed by her behaviour. Edited December 28, 2016 by Desdemona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desdemona Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Or how about the contrary? The crazier and more passionate she gets about her project, the more fascinated and aroused Sheldon is, because he sees how her neurones are lighting up (because he has connected her brain to an MRI scanner, so he can watch her brain working, while he fangirls everytime he sees a part of her brain lighting up, while their friends look at them disturbed and shake their heads LOL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidergirl Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jonny said: We only get a glimpse of their lives, they could easily have like one line of dialogue saying that Amy struggling with a project but then focus on the positive outcome during the episode. It would be a great idea! It might be a way of we know more about what Amy does with more details. And how Sheldon could be a help to Amy as he could assure her she is brilliant and surely she could do it well at end. Amy surely would be glad by her boyfriend being confident about her work skills and praising her about her intelligence, which we know that really make both proud of themselves and having their motors running too, lol! 1 hour ago, Jonny said: A lot of times this season we have seen situations when you can say look at Sheldon 2.0 and how much he has changed and imagine what he would have been like if that situation had arisen when he was early era Sheldon or Sheldon 1.0. Amy having career success and Sheldon being mega proud but focusing entirely on her and her achievements could be another example of that change. We had seen Sheldon dealing with his own failures as he could not do maths of his and guys 's project this season and also dealing with his jealousy about other's sucess, like in Bert's episode. I think a situation where we could see a proud Sheldon for Amy wining a science prize would be great for we see how much he is uncondiotionally into Amy's happiness and how he is getting mature to a level that an achievement from the woman he loves is like an achievemnet for himself. In sum, what I don't want is Sheldon taking steps backwards to non sense situations where we might see the old selfish and immature Sheldon, not even for a sake of a laugh. Now he knows that some behaviors are useless for his own behalf and for the others, what makes him happy doesnt need to be the same that make others happy and vice versa and mostly I would like to see Sheldon making progress to his career as he is a more "avaiable" person to work in team and be more open minded for listening other opinions from other coleagues or from guys about the projects he is involved. All of this is possible to be developed keeping Sheldon in character but with sense of personal anchievment and sharing those wonderful smiles likethat he showed in car with Amy in 10.11, that shows so well how this character , who did not to know how smile 10 years ago, that he now knows how to do it and to feel free for be happy with his own way of having his world with a certain level of control. Surely he would be always a bit stubborn and with a low level of arrogance as people didnt change at all as there are traits that will be always there. But Sheldon has proved that he is a better man now and I want to see more of that at same time we saw that about Amy being a better woman because of him. Surely there are lots of situations for being written for one, two more seasons about these topics. Edited December 28, 2016 by spidergirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serena_1995 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jonny said: Not sure I agree about it being too perfect. I mean if they wanted to have a storyline where Amy is clearly struggling e.g. working long hours and having difficulty with a specific problem in regards to her research or an experiment but then has a big breakthrough that could drive an interesting story but it's not essential IMO. We only get a glimpse of their lives, they could easily have like one line of dialogue saying that Amy struggling with a project but then focus on the positive outcome during the episode. A lot of times this season we have seen situations when you can say look at Sheldon 2.0 and how much he has changed and imagine what he would have been like if that situation had arisen when he was early era Sheldon or Sheldon 1.0. Amy having career success and Sheldon being mega proud but focusing entirely on her and her achievements could be another example of that change. You seem to ignore, that while major focus is mostly on Sheldon, focus is usually not on how awesome, capable and perfect sheldon is or how lucky Amy is to have Sheldon . On the contrary, more often than not, i feel , focus is on his self doubt, his struggles , his losses and his faults as a scientist and a person. Infact, im not sure there is any other character who has faced as much soul crushing dejection ,as many dissappointments and as many repeated blows to their ego about their entire belief system , more than Sheldon when it comes to professional life. This is just my lone opinion and maybe im wrong , but for me, a character's struggles are just as important as their wins. It provides a richer narrative. I agree, it is not essential, but i prefer it . Without struggles or faults, it just seems to me like giving away a trophy to a mary sue character who is already perfect, flawless and great at everything to begin with. You see, for me, Sheldon being proud of Amy still ends up being about Sheldon's growth,not Amy's growth. It will be yet another "omg look how far sheldon 2.0 has come from sheldon 1.0 " moment . How about we focus on Amy's growth irrespective of how it highlights her importance to Sheldon's life ? How about an episode where Amy has to deal with professional jealousy of her own ? Where Amy learns a lesson of her own ? Sheldon and Penny's career has been examined with a critical lens in the past, why shouldn't Amy's? If the show is extended for a couple more seasons, i think it would have a potential to be interesting . It could answer questions about Amy's position and her field of research too. Im sure, career wins for Amy will come subsequently ! Edited December 28, 2016 by serena_1995 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
April Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 6 minutes ago, serena_1995 said: You seem to ignore, that while major focus is mostly on Sheldon, focus is usually not on how awesome, capable and perfect sheldon is or how lucky Amy is to have Sheldon . On the contrary, more often than not, i feel , focus is on his self doubt, his struggles , his losses and his faults as a scientist and a person. Infact, im not sure there is any other character who has faced as much soul crushing dejection ,as many dissappointments and as many repeated blows to their ego about their entire belief system , more than Sheldon when it comes to professional life. This is just my lone opinion and maybe im wrong , but for me, a character's struggles are just as important as their wins. It provides a richer narrative. I agree, it is not essential, but i prefer it . Not just professional but also his personal life, with both things often going hand in hand. Which is also why I think it's nonsense whenever anyone insists that there are never negative consequences for Sheldon when this guy has been put through a years and years of the "break the haughty" treatment (to use tv tropes lingo). And like you I also think he's a more compelling character because of those struggles he went through and the lessons learned from it. 6 minutes ago, serena_1995 said: How about we focus on Amy's growth irrespective of how it highlights her importance to Sheldon's life ? How about an episode where Amy has to deal with professional jealousy of her own ? Where Amy learns a lesson of her own ? Sheldon and Penny's career has been examined with a critical lens in the past, why shouldn't Amy's? If the show is extended for a couple more seasons, i think it would have a potential to be interesting . It could answer questions about Amy's position and her field of research too. Im sure, career wins for Amy will come subsequently ! I fear it would be impossible to completely avoid the "Sheldon is proud of his Amy" angle but I agree with the sentiment that I'd love to see some work storyline that is just for Amy. Or that is at least not defined through the lens of "how can we use this for Sheldon's character development?" The addiction study she had early on was a pretty good example of dealing with something like that over time without having Sheldon be a major part of it. Amy's research is independent from all the physics stuff so we just got a few glimpses into it that still got us a decent picture of what was going on. Now Sheldon and Amy are living together they could expand that angle to stuff like her working late or her bringing work home, and you could even have a story about her having some trouble balancing work and private life or whatever. I can only echo my wish for a neuroscience advisor so that the writers could actually come up with a proper science project for Amy. Maybe Molaro could call that mice study lady he met during the summer! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidergirl Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 S: "Amy, may I tell you a secret?" A: "Of course." S: "Have I mentioned you're hot?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirs1 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) Since we are speaking about what we wish for the second half of the season, for me the "Buridan donkey" talk in the stairwell was one of the best Shamy moments ever and for sure an outstanding part in S. 10. It expresses perfectly why Shamy are together and why they are perfect for each other, so I wish some other moments like that in the future... Edited December 28, 2016 by mirs1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidergirl Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) I wish for the second half of the season more display of affection like this one, as they are always so sincere as they do it. Edited December 28, 2016 by spidergirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
April Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 40 minutes ago, mirs1 said: Since we are speaking about what we wish for the second half of the season, for me the "Buridan donkey" talk in the stairwell was one of the best Shamy moment ever and for sure an outstanding part in S. 10. It express perfectly why Shamy are together and why they are perfect for each other, so I wish some other moments like that in the future... Same! I have to say the writers have been absolutely stellar with that aspect of Shamy this season so I'd be more than happy to see them continue with these kinds of little intellectually charged scenes between them. And especially Amy gets to shine in them time and again. Thinking further about it: I'd be delighted if Shamy would end up with some sort of weird intellectual in-joke as a result of them having these little debates all the time. I always love it when they weird out the gang - it could be really funny! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamyyes Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 My wish is for more seasons. When do you think we will know? (This season has been so amazing for our couple) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
April Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 11 minutes ago, Shamyyes said: My wish is for more seasons. When do you think we will know? (This season has been so amazing for our couple) Hard to tell. In interviews everybody is still cagey about giving a concrete answer but ultimately hopeful for more seasons - with everyone on board, obviously! The writers said that they'd need about half a season to wrap things up if it really is the last so I hope they settle things soon and we'll find out in January after everybody is back to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidergirl Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) 31 minutes ago, April said: Hard to tell. In interviews everybody is still cagey about giving a concrete answer but ultimately hopeful for more seasons - with everyone on board, obviously! The writers said that they'd need about half a season to wrap things up if it really is the last so I hope they settle things soon and we'll find out in January after everybody is back to work. I hope you're right about this! The anxiety is killing me softly ... Meanwhile, sharing another s10 shamy moment that melts me to a pool of cuteness.... Edited December 28, 2016 by spidergirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 10 hours ago, serena_1995 said: You seem to ignore, that while major focus is mostly on Sheldon, focus is usually not on how awesome, capable and perfect sheldon is or how lucky Amy is to have Sheldon . On the contrary, more often than not, i feel , focus is on his self doubt, his struggles , his losses and his faults as a scientist and a person. Infact, im not sure there is any other character who has faced as much soul crushing dejection ,as many dissappointments and as many repeated blows to their ego about their entire belief system , more than Sheldon when it comes to professional life. This is just my lone opinion and maybe im wrong , but for me, a character's struggles are just as important as their wins. It provides a richer narrative. I agree, it is not essential, but i prefer it . Without struggles or faults, it just seems to me like giving away a trophy to a mary sue character who is already perfect, flawless and great at everything to begin with. You see, for me, Sheldon being proud of Amy still ends up being about Sheldon's growth,not Amy's growth. It will be yet another "omg look how far sheldon 2.0 has come from sheldon 1.0 " moment . How about we focus on Amy's growth irrespective of how it highlights her importance to Sheldon's life ? How about an episode where Amy has to deal with professional jealousy of her own ? Where Amy learns a lesson of her own ? Sheldon and Penny's career has been examined with a critical lens in the past, why shouldn't Amy's? If the show is extended for a couple more seasons, i think it would have a potential to be interesting . It could answer questions about Amy's position and her field of research too. Im sure, career wins for Amy will come subsequently ! I don't think I am ignoring it, I have seen Sheldon at his best and his worst and at the times when he has had major wins in life and major losses. I have been very critical at times of some of the stuff he has had to go through and I have really felt for him. For example when he was kicked when he was down on several occasions when the living situation was brought up. Amy is my favorite character so anything that gets her more storyline time and they are interesting storylines I am all in favor of it whether it's comedy, some drama, or like you said a life lesson learned. Amy's character has been a major winner in Season 10, the more screen time has not only boosted her screen presence but also her interactions with Penny and of course Sheldon. I already thought Mayim was amazing and now we get to see more of it, a good thing in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serena_1995 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jonny said: I don't think I am ignoring it, I have seen Sheldon at his best and his worst and at the times when he has had major wins in life and major losses. I have been very critical at times of some of the stuff he has had to go through and I have really felt for him. For example when he was kicked when he was down on several occasions when the living situation was brought up. Amy is my favorite character so anything that gets her more storyline time and they are interesting storylines I am all in favor of it whether it's comedy, some drama, or like you said a life lesson learned. Amy's character has been a major winner in Season 10, the more screen time has not only boosted her screen presence but also her interactions with Penny and of course Sheldon. I already thought Mayim was amazing and now we get to see more of it, a good thing in my view. I don't think I ever said that it is a bad thing, in the first place. On the contrary, I want Amy to get more screen time. The only reason I brought up Sheldon's struggles was because, if I want to see Amy get more screen time and more focus like Sheldon does, it would be nice to see Amy get a similar journey as Sheldon, full of great and not so great moments. I don't want Amy's stories to become a plot device to teach Sheldon more life lessons and further Sheldon's character development. The writers should just let it be about Amy's character development , leave Sheldon out of it- maybe give Sheldon a plot with Bernie or Raj, for a change. Edited December 29, 2016 by serena_1995 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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