Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 10

[mirs1]

10 minutes ago, spidergirl said:

BTW, did you notice shamy is holding hands before Sheldon got his ear pierced in one of promo photos? I am so melted here, love these two!

I've just noticed that from a IG post with the promo in it, and I was about to write that in here! Isn't that wonderful that after all that happened and how cozy and intimate Shamy are nowadays we still notice these little things and they still melt our hearts? I'm really counting on those little things for this episode, since it's not really on paper what i wanted to see, but there will be a couple of gems which might redeem it, LOL!

Edited January 2, 2017 by mirs1

[spidergirl]

Just now, mirs1 said:

I've just noticed that from a IG post with the promo in it, and I was about to write that in here! Isn't that wonderful that after all that happened and how cozy and intimate Shamy are nowadays we still notice these little things and they still melt our hearts? I'm really counting on those little things for this episode, since it's not really on paper what i wanted to see, but there will be a couple of gems which might redeem it, LOL!

Me too! I am ignoring Shedon's underware on his head and focusing in these litle things too, lol! I believe after we watch the episode, we will enjoy it more than we thought we would because we will surely see more about how bonded are our adorable couple. 

I know, they are now more cozy and intimate but more they get , more I melt, it is incredible, isn't it? Who is shamy of heart know what I mean, right?

 

 

[Jonny]

2 hours ago, spidergirl said:

BTW, did you notice shamy is holding hands before Sheldon got his ear pierced in one of promo photos? I am so melted here, love these two!

Remember the days when Amy had to persuade him into holding hands at say a cinema? lol

I think in a way the small things resonate so well because we have seen their relationship from it's early infancy to now and how it's changed. Small things like hand holding get magnified and rightly so. For a lot of tv couples something as small as that would be a minor thing but for our favorite couple it means a great deal more.

Edited January 2, 2017 by Jonny
probably poorly written but I think people get the gist of it.

[April]

18 minutes ago, Jonny said:

Remember the days when Amy had to persuade him into holding hands at say a cinema? lol

I think in a way the small things resonate so well because we have seen their relationship from it's early infancy to now and how it's changed. Small things like hand holding get magnified and rightly so. For a lot of tv couples something as small as that would be a minor thing but for our favorite couple it means a great deal more.

I think this pretty much sums up why the latter half of S9 still resonated with me despite the lack of PDAs (which we all agree on was a BS move on the writer's part!) cause even the little we got then was totally absent in long stretches before the breakup. Heck, Sheldon being in heart eyes mode all the time was already a huge improvement!

But of course everything since 10x04 blows the past seasons out of the water. I'm not sure I've adjusted to that just yet. The little things still get me ridiculously excited and yet I hope we never go back to the old times cause the current stuff is just so good. Needy baby greedy baby, me.

[spidergirl]

43 minutes ago, April said:

I think this pretty much sums up why the latter half of S9 still resonated with me despite the lack of PDAs (which we all agree on was a BS move on the writer's part!) cause even the little we got then was totally absent in long stretches before the breakup. Heck, Sheldon being in heart eyes mode all the time was already a huge improvement!

But of course everything since 10x04 blows the past seasons out of the water. I'm not sure I've adjusted to that just yet. The little things still get me ridiculously excited and yet I hope we never go back to the old times cause the current stuff is just so good. Needy baby greedy baby, me.

Me neither. I think the thing is we were so anxious for they could display more affection and showing on screen they are so caring for each other  for seasons that when we see simple touches like hand holding, we feel our hearts even more filled with affection for them. 

I believe they would never go back to the old times because now they really know what they mean to each other and Sheldon finnaly knows a man's live is better when he loves and let be himself loved. Last season or more seasons upcoming, there is no way of they getting back .

 

Edited January 2, 2017 by spidergirl

[Jonny]

1 hour ago, April said:

I think this pretty much sums up why the latter half of S9 still resonated with me despite the lack of PDAs (which we all agree on was a BS move on the writer's part!) cause even the little we got then was totally absent in long stretches before the breakup. Heck, Sheldon being in heart eyes mode all the time was already a huge improvement!

But of course everything since 10x04 blows the past seasons out of the water. I'm not sure I've adjusted to that just yet. The little things still get me ridiculously excited and yet I hope we never go back to the old times cause the current stuff is just so good. Needy baby greedy baby, me.

I know, right?

I haven't watched some of the earlier seasons for a while, but I remember that you did during the hiatus. I can imagine when I get around to it, or if one day I started to watch them all again probably say after the show is finished I will be like 'this is so different', which is pretty natural as the later stuff will be fresher in my mind. Some benefit of hindsight as well lol

We are in a golden era in terms of Shamy, there is no doubt about it. All the years of watching how it has developed over the years, hoping for things to happen and to now to see it all come to fruition feels immensely satisfying.

Edited January 2, 2017 by Jonny

[RJ1013]

Happy New Year!

I re-watched the first half of season 10 over the holidays, and I thought I’d share a little something from ‘The Hot Tub Contamination’ that I noticed. That’s the episode where Sheldon claims to want to see other people when Amy requests that they share a toothbrush holder.

During an early scene, they have an argument in the background while Penny and Leonard are talking. With good headphones, I was able to pick out most of what they said during my re-watch:

 

S: I don’t want to; I need to.

A: So where are you going to meet them?

S: Anywhere women congregate.

A: Like at a bar, dance club, yoga class?

S: Well, I was thinking … … … with a ladies section

A: …

S: I’d tell you, but you’d fall even more in love with me.

 

There are two unintelligible parts there, but Amy’s last line must’ve been some variation of ‘what’s this about’. It’s the only thing that would make his final response make sense.

So he told her right away that he doesn’t really want anyone else and that his reasons for thinking he needs to do it would only make her love him more. Since his ridiculous plan turned out to be nothing more than a misguided attempt to protect her from getting hurt, it’s easy to see why he would say that.

Anyway, I thought it was kind of sweet to find out that he had told Amy this from the very beginning. I think she already knew that it wasn’t so simple anyway, but this makes it extra clear to me why Amy wasn’t worried at all during the episode.

[April]

21 minutes ago, Jonny said:

I know, right?

I haven't watched some of the earlier seasons for a while, but I remember that you did during the hiatus. I can imagine when I get around to it, or if one day I started to watch them all again probably say after the show is finished I will be like 'this is so different', which is pretty natural as the later stuff will be fresher in my mind. Some benefit of hindsight as well lol

We are in a golden era in terms of Shamy, there is no doubt about it. All the years of watching how it has developed over the years, hoping for things to happen and to now to see it all come to fruition feels immensely satisfying.

The difference really is striking! Watching the whole thing start to finish you really get a good sense of development and the benefit of hindsight totally works in the shows favour as well. A lot of the things that have been huge red flags in fandom discussion are so much easier to deal with and usually turn out to be not that bad at all. And as you say, it the end it all makes what we get now even more satisfying.

(For anyone who's interested my rewatch posts from the summer: [S1-3] [S4] [S5] [S6] [S7] [S8] [S9] )

[Lady in Red]

27 minutes ago, RJ1013 said:

Happy New Year!

I re-watched the first half of season 10 over the holidays, and I thought I’d share a little something from ‘The Hot Tub Contamination’ that I noticed. That’s the episode where Sheldon claims to want to see other people when Amy requests that they share a toothbrush holder.

During an early scene, they have an argument in the background while Penny and Leonard are talking. With good headphones, I was able to pick out most of what they said during my re-watch:

 

S: I don’t want to; I need to.

A: So where are you going to meet them?

S: Anywhere women congregate.

A: Like at a bar, dance club, yoga class?

S: Well, I was thinking … … … with a ladies section

A: …

S: I’d tell you, but you’d fall even more in love with me.

 

There are two unintelligible parts there, but Amy’s last line must’ve been some variation of ‘what’s this about’. It’s the only thing that would make his final response make sense.

So he told her right away that he doesn’t really want anyone else and that his reasons for thinking he needs to do it would only make her love him more. Since his ridiculous plan turned out to be nothing more than a misguided attempt to protect her from getting hurt, it’s easy to see why he would say that.

Anyway, I thought it was kind of sweet to find out that he had told Amy this from the very beginning. I think she already knew that it wasn’t so simple anyway, but this makes it extra clear to me why Amy wasn’t worried at all during the episode.

Thank you for picking that out.  This is the taping I attended, and they did that scene twice, as they usually do.  The actors were all speaking in normal voices together, so it was difficult to follow either conversation.  You had to pick one, or the other, like you would do in real life.  For  the final edit they apparently can alter the volume depending on the nearest microphone.

[joyceraye]

17 hours ago, vonmar said:

I know many people who take down their tree and decorations on New Years Day.  Many others (me included) wait until after Little Christmas (also know as The Feast of the Epiphany or Three Kings Day) which is January 6th.....

In our family we've always left the decorations up until Jan 5th or 6th.  On 12th Night, which was also my mother's birthday, when we were young my godmother used to hold a party. We had games and party food. There were presents for all of us on the tree, which made it fun to strip.

It'll be interesting to find out what happens at Mary's and when. Mary has decorations all round so it may even be before Christmas. They won't be having sloppy joes for Christmas dinner. Or perhaps she leaves her decorations up until Epiphany.

The relationship agreement included handholding for flu shots, so assuming that's a clause they haven't jettisoned, perhaps they think ear piercing is a reasonable extension... ?

Edited January 2, 2017 by joyceraye

[mirs1]

2 hours ago, RJ1013 said:

Happy New Year!

I re-watched the first half of season 10 over the holidays, and I thought I’d share a little something from ‘The Hot Tub Contamination’ that I noticed. That’s the episode where Sheldon claims to want to see other people when Amy requests that they share a toothbrush holder.

During an early scene, they have an argument in the background while Penny and Leonard are talking. With good headphones, I was able to pick out most of what they said during my re-watch:

 

S: I don’t want to; I need to.

A: So where are you going to meet them?

S: Anywhere women congregate.

A: Like at a bar, dance club, yoga class?

S: Well, I was thinking … … … with a ladies section

A: …

S: I’d tell you, but you’d fall even more in love with me.

 

There are two unintelligible parts there, but Amy’s last line must’ve been some variation of ‘what’s this about’. It’s the only thing that would make his final response make sense.

So he told her right away that he doesn’t really want anyone else and that his reasons for thinking he needs to do it would only make her love him more. Since his ridiculous plan turned out to be nothing more than a misguided attempt to protect her from getting hurt, it’s easy to see why he would say that.

Anyway, I thought it was kind of sweet to find out that he had told Amy this from the very beginning. I think she already knew that it wasn’t so simple anyway, but this makes it extra clear to me why Amy wasn’t worried at all during the episode.

Thank you! This is so interesting, on so many levels. First it shows that there is a huge cure of the details, the fight playing in the background was not just jibber jabber, the writers wanted it to be connected with what happened in the episode and to be an integral part of it. 

In-universe, then, I agree with you that it's sweet that Sheldon didn't throw the bomb about dating other women in front of Lenny, but he had already discussed of it with Amy in private. His reasons were clear since the beginning, him saying "I’d tell you, but you’d fall even more in love with me" means he really wanted both to make Amy used to the "inevitable" destiny of him becoming like his father, but also to protect her, by keeping her away from him with his "unfaithful" behavior. His intentions were good, even if of course they were just nonsense. Anyway, Amy clearly saw through all of it, she didn't realize what was really wrong with him, but for sure she never thought for a second he really wanted to date somebody else. My head-canon is they discussed this whole stuff after the hug in the bathroom.

1 hour ago, Lady in Red said:

Thank you for picking that out.  This is the taping I attended, and they did that scene twice, as they usually do.  The actors were all speaking in normal voices together, so it was difficult to follow either conversation.  You had to pick one, or the other, like you would do in real life.  For  the final edit they apparently can alter the volume depending on the nearest microphone.

It is very interesting also the "making of". I think it's very difficult for me to ever go to a taping (but never say never), and I really appreciate both the TRs and the BTS you are all so generous in providing us. It's fun to understand how they obtain all the "effects" we see in the finished product.

Edited January 2, 2017 by mirs1

[spidergirl]

2 hours ago, RJ1013 said:

Happy New Year!

I re-watched the first half of season 10 over the holidays, and I thought I’d share a little something from ‘The Hot Tub Contamination’ that I noticed. That’s the episode where Sheldon claims to want to see other people when Amy requests that they share a toothbrush holder.

During an early scene, they have an argument in the background while Penny and Leonard are talking. With good headphones, I was able to pick out most of what they said during my re-watch:

 

S: I don’t want to; I need to.

A: So where are you going to meet them?

S: Anywhere women congregate.

A: Like at a bar, dance club, yoga class?

S: Well, I was thinking … … … with a ladies section

A: …

S: I’d tell you, but you’d fall even more in love with me.

 

There are two unintelligible parts there, but Amy’s last line must’ve been some variation of ‘what’s this about’. It’s the only thing that would make his final response make sense.

So he told her right away that he doesn’t really want anyone else and that his reasons for thinking he needs to do it would only make her love him more. Since his ridiculous plan turned out to be nothing more than a misguided attempt to protect her from getting hurt, it’s easy to see why he would say that.

Anyway, I thought it was kind of sweet to find out that he had told Amy this from the very beginning. I think she already knew that it wasn’t so simple anyway, but this makes it extra clear to me why Amy wasn’t worried at all during the episode.

Thank you so much for this! It is wonderful that none shamy relationship detail is left behind, as the writers always give us, directly or between the lines , all things needed for we understand every Sheldon or Amy intention about all situations they live together.

I have finished to rewatch season 1 and it is so interisting to notice that each Sheldon's trait or behavior of him in certain situations have not been random but everything has got its point as much we got through the Sheldon's characther 's growth until season 10. For exemple, his three times knowcking. There were two episodes where he knocked in Penny's door without doing it three times and I have noticed that he had not known much of her love/sexual life by that time for have a "judgement" about her. I mean, he had just started to knock three times as he knew more about some of Penny's affairs , which imo is  well connected with this season explanation Sheldon gave to Penny why he knocked three times. Besides I think he brought that knocking style for the others situations out of their building because as much as Sheldon was being aware of other people 's behavior  , more he got convinced that the others were all alike with each others but him, I mean his narcisitic side taking advantage of his actions. I am glad that when he met Amy and started to falling in love with her, his narcisitic side has been really getting soft and he had been really growing up to a more social person.

Starting to rewatch season 2 later. And not taking my eyes of Sheldon, for noticing more intersisting details of his life before Amy.

 

Edited January 2, 2017 by spidergirl

[RJ1013]

I wondered how they had taped that and whether the people who went were able to follow both conversations. Thanks, @Lady in Red

48 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

In-universe, then, I agree with you that it's sweet that Sheldon didn't throw the bomb about dating other women in front of Lenny, but he had already discussed of it with Amy in private. His reasons were clear since the beginning, him saying "I’d tell you, but you’d fall even more in love with me" means he really wanted both to make Amy used to the "inevitable" destiny of him becoming like his father, but also to protect her, by keeping her away from him with his "unfaithful" behavior. His intentions were good, even if of course they were just nonsense. Anyway, Amy clearly saw through all of it, she didn't realize what was really wrong with him, but for sure she never thought for a second he really wanted to date somebody else. My head-canon is they discussed this whole stuff after the hug in the bathroom.

Well, this little exchange is right after he brings the whole thing up in front of Lenny. But yes, I found it sweet that he was trying to explain his intentions right away and that he wanted her to know that it wasn’t what he really wanted. It sounds like if L/P hadn’t separated them, Amy would’ve gotten the full story at that time. I think it’s safe to assume he told her at some point after the episode.

While I wasn’t fond of this one when it first aired, I enjoyed it a lot during the re-watch. Back when i first saw it, I thought it was out of character for Sheldon to try to convince Amy that he wanted to see other people. Now it’s clear that he never did want Amy to believe that, not that she would have anyway. 

One of the main things that struck me on the re-watch was that during this major adjustment of living together,  Sheldon’s primary concern was that he might somehow hurt Amy. Usually during periods of change or in the midst of little arguments, he tends to be overwhelmed with selfish concerns, so this stood out a lot. In retrospect, even before the hug scene, the whole thing was kind of adorable, and I was surprised by how much more I appreciated this one after watching it again.

[mirs1]

5 minutes ago, RJ1013 said:

I wondered how they had taped that and whether the people who went were able to follow both conversations. Thanks, @Lady in Red

Well, this little exchange is right after he brings the whole thing up in front of Lenny. But yes, I found it sweet that he was trying to explain his intentions right away and that he wanted her to know that it wasn’t what he really wanted. It sounds like if L/P hadn’t separated them, Amy would’ve gotten the full story at that time. I think it’s safe to assume he told her at some point after the episode.

Oh, thank you, I kinda remembered that the episode started with them fighting in 4B in the background. I planned a S. 10 re-watch during the Holidays, but I haven't been able up to now of doing that...I have to do it ASAP, now! LOL!

Edited January 2, 2017 by mirs1

[spidergirl]

2 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

Oh, thank you, I kinda remembered that the episode started with them fighting in 4B in the background. I planned a S. 10 re-watch during the Holidays, but I haven't been able up to now of doing that...I have to, now! LOL!

I have to rewatch it wearing headphones !

 

Edited January 2, 2017 by spidergirl

[joyceraye]

2 hours ago, RJ1013 said:

Happy New Year!

I re-watched the first half of season 10 over the holidays, and I thought I’d share a little something from ‘The Hot Tub Contamination’ that I noticed. That’s the episode where Sheldon claims to want to see other people when Amy requests that they share a toothbrush holder.

During an early scene, they have an argument in the background while Penny and Leonard are talking. With good headphones, I was able to pick out most of what they said during my re-watch:

 

S: I don’t want to; I need to.

A: So where are you going to meet them?

S: Anywhere women congregate.

A: Like at a bar, dance club, yoga class?

S: Well, I was thinking … … … with a ladies section

A: …

S: I’d tell you, but you’d fall even more in love with me.

 

There are two unintelligible parts there, but Amy’s last line must’ve been some variation of ‘what’s this about’. It’s the only thing that would make his final response make sense.

So he told her right away that he doesn’t really want anyone else and that his reasons for thinking he needs to do it would only make her love him more. Since his ridiculous plan turned out to be nothing more than a misguided attempt to protect her from getting hurt, it’s easy to see why he would say that.

Anyway, I thought it was kind of sweet to find out that he had told Amy this from the very beginning. I think she already knew that it wasn’t so simple anyway, but this makes it extra clear to me why Amy wasn’t worried at all during the episode.

Well done. Thanks for sharing ! I do wish they'd include these things when they publish the subtitles. I'm still trying to make out what Beverley tells Amy in Line Substitution while Penny and Bernadette are talking.

[RJ1013]

9 hours ago, joyceraye said:

Well done. Thanks for sharing ! I do wish they'd include these things when they publish the subtitles. I'm still trying to make out what Beverley tells Amy in Line Substitution while Penny and Bernadette are talking.

Yeah, that one’s even tougher. Here’s my best shot at it:

Amy: (Dealing with?) Sheldon’s never (easy?) Despite the (hard parts?), I do think it’s been working.

Beverly:  (I understand?) While your relationship may be a bit unorthodox, I wouldn’t think too deeply…

The words in parentheses are half-guesses, but it should be pretty close.

Edited January 3, 2017 by RJ1013

[spidergirl]

9 hours ago, April said:

The difference really is striking! Watching the whole thing start to finish you really get a good sense of development and the benefit of hindsight totally works in the shows favour as well. A lot of the things that have been huge red flags in fandom discussion are so much easier to deal with and usually turn out to be not that bad at all. And as you say, it the end it all makes what we get now even more satisfying.

(For anyone who's interested my rewatch posts from the summer: [S1-3] [S4] [S5] [S6] [S7] [S8] [S9] )

Indeed! Everything tends to make sense in light of characters development and Sheldon is really one of the boys who grew more from an almost robotic kind to a man with feelings as everybody else. He had always had feelings, he had not just known by then how to express them in a decent way because he was too lonely, even it was for his choice. As long as he could get involved more with guys nerd and job activities and socialize with them and with the girls, more Sheldon needed to learn how to handle with changes and Amy was really the key for he kind of reborn again. A rewatch is indeed a very interisting activity for doing after 10 seasons, especially after these 11 episodes of such great season for shamy.  

Btw, thanks for linking your posts about your rewatch. It is really cool to compare what I think with you thought by then

[joyceraye]

5 hours ago, RJ1013 said:

Yeah, that one’s even tougher. Here’s my best shot at it:

Amy: (Dealing with?) Sheldon’s never (easy?) Despite the (hard parts?), I do think it’s been working.

Beverly:  (I think that’s?) true. While your relationship may be a bit unorthodox, I wouldn’t think too deeply…

The words in parentheses are half-guesses, but it should be pretty close.

Thank you, that's very good.

 

 

[Jonny]

Yeah nice one @RJ1013, great to get a kind of an idea of what they were saying or at least it is fun to speculate lol

Just a shame that there was no continuation of dialogue when Sheldon and Amy were doing their Fun with Flags special for Valentines day in Season 9 and the cupid dance cut Sheldon off mid flow when he was about to say something. Now if they had continued talking a little after but it was drowned out that also would have been very interesting.

I was so pissed off at the time when that happened lol

[mirs1]

Who's ready for 10.12 sneak peeks? Hopefully, they will be up later today. I wish the monkeys at CBS pick some Shamy scene and in particular the group scenes in 4A, Shamy look adorable in those (even if TBH watching the pics a bit closely I got the impression the actors cracked in some of them and they were bloopers rather than actual scenes, let's see...) Anyway, the hiatus lasted long enough and I need some fresh TBBT in my life. I've seen the schedule, and on January 12th there will be a rerun, so we have to wait a bit longer for Shamy at their cutest in 10.13...

[spidergirl]

1 hour ago, mirs1 said:

Who's ready for 10.12 sneak peeks? Hopefully, they will be up later today. I wish the monkeys at CBS pick some Shamy scene and in particular the group scenes in 4A, Shamy look adorable in those (even if TBH watching the pics a bit closely I got the impression the actors cracked in some of them and they were bloopers rather than actual scenes, let's see...) Anyway, the hiatus lasted long enough and I need some fresh TBBT in my life. I've seen the schedule, and on January 12th there will be a rerun, so we have to wait a bit longer for Shamy at their cutest in 10.13...

Oh I am so ready, lol!!

I know what you mean, Jim does a litle thing with his mouth like  he is trying to not move it as  he is avoiding to start to laugh, lol!

I must confess I am more curious about 10.13 than 10.12 but then there are those promo of 10.12 where shamy is all smiles and hand holding/support before moment of pain aka ear pierced that can not help myself of getting anxious and melted at same time.

Isn´t friday yet?

[Riley7]

Hey y'all... I can't remember what happens in 10.12 and is there a TR out of 10.13 already?

[Tensor]

 

1 hour ago, Riley7 said:

Hey y'all... I can't remember what happens in 10.12 and is there a TR out of 10.13 already?

Riley, check the taping report thread.  

[spidergirl]

Four days of January are almost gone and the silence about renewing the show is getting bigger...

Anyone geting a bit anxious about that?

Jim is only cast member so far expressing he would like to continue, I wonder what might be the other cast thoughts.

I need badly  interviews , lol! 

Because they...

And we have not sneak peeks for next episode yet....

Edited January 4, 2017 by spidergirl