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28 minutes ago, A Shamy gal said:

Given that it's not the first time a character has 'drugged' another in the show, I am a little surprised at the reaction on here.  I mean Howard used to drug his mother all the time and I don't remember anyone saying anything about it.  And we've had Bernie drugging Howard to shut him up.  Howard's drugged Sheldon to shut him up as well.  I lost count of the times Penny tricked Sheldon into drinking alcohol.  We've even had Sheldon saying once he should have given Amy 'sleepy tea'.  So it's been done loads of times before.  Maybe it's because it was Amy who did it this time that is the reason for the reaction to it. 

I was not in this forum when all those other things you listed happened (not sure just for the Howard/Bernadette stuff, I seriously can't remember when that was, so most likely I've not even understood and registered the joke, given English is not my first language), otherwise I would have expressed my concerns about them  when they happened. Years later, it seems pretty moot, TBH. But to be clear, it's wrong to trick everybody in taking a psychotropic substance of any kind.

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23 minutes ago, A Shamy gal said:

Given that it's not the first time a character has 'drugged' another in the show, I am a little surprised at the reaction on here.  I mean Howard used to drug his mother all the time and I don't remember anyone saying anything about it.  And we've had Bernie drugging Howard to shut him up.  Howard's drugged Sheldon to shut him up as well.  I lost count of the times Penny tricked Sheldon into drinking alcohol.  We've even had Sheldon saying once he should have given Amy 'sleepy tea'.  So it's been done loads of times before.  Maybe it's because it was Amy who did it this time that is the reason for the reaction to it. 

I can't say much about anything that happened before I joined this forum but I can certainly say that I'm not a big fan of anyone drugging someone else - especially in case of their significant other. I can tolerate friends playing pranks to each other to some extend like Penny slipping Sheldon some alcohol in his cuba libre. However - and maybe it's because I'm a woman - the idea that my partner slips something into my drink that knocks me unconscious for hours is terrifying. The show might have had similar jokes before but it's a really tone deaf joke in this day and age. Then again most people don't seem to care and found it funny so what do I know.

Also, "sleepy time tea" doesn't knock you out but has ingredients that calm you down.

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3 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

I was not in this forum when all those other things you listed happened (not sure just for the Howard/Bernadette stuff, I seriously can't remember when that was, so most likely I've not even understood and registered the joke, given English is not my first language), otherwise I would have expressed my concerns about them  too when they happened. Years later, it seems pretty moot, TBH. But to be clear, it's wrong to trick everybody in taking a psychotropic substance of any kind.

Bernie drugging Howard was the parking spot episode. 

You're absolutely right, tricking someone into taking a psychotropic substance is a big NO-NO in the real world, but these fictional characters have all done things to each that are horrible and would not be tolerated in real life.  I mean you can't get much worse then when the guys kidnapped Sheldon to go on a belated bachelor party for Leonard.  They tied him up, gagged him and forcibly carried him out to the van.

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39 minutes ago, A Shamy gal said:

Given that it's not the first time a character has 'drugged' another in the show, I am a little surprised at the reaction on here.  I mean Howard used to drug his mother all the time and I don't remember anyone saying anything about it.  And we've had Bernie drugging Howard to shut him up.  Howard's drugged Sheldon to shut him up as well.  I lost count of the times Penny tricked Sheldon into drinking alcohol.  We've even had Sheldon saying once he should have given Amy 'sleepy tea'.  So it's been done loads of times before.  Maybe it's because it was Amy who did it this time that is the reason for the reaction to it. 

I was not in this forum either when these things happened on the show but when I saw them I have not enjoyed them. I would share my concern for them as I shared in this case, which is more serious for me because it was a so doing it to other so.

Tricking someone with drugs is not funny at all, imo. I love the show but these moments I dont like them, only tolerate them because they made part of the narrative. 

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9 minutes ago, A Shamy gal said:

Bernie drugging Howard was the parking spot episode. 

You're absolutely right, tricking someone into taking a psychotropic substance is a big NO-NO in the real world, but these fictional characters have all done things to each that are horrible and would not be tolerated in real life.  I mean you can't get much worse then when the guys kidnapped Sheldon to go on a belated bachelor party for Leonard.  They tied him up, gagged him and forcibly carried him out to the van.

So I was not here even for H/B, LOL! Anyway, I agree that those are jokes not to be taken too seriously, but that doesn't imply that I have to find them funny and if not I think we can discuss about it. Funnily enough, this is not even my main complain in the episode, and probably you are right that Amy doing that to Sheldon made me more sensitive to the subject. But I'm pretty sure I would have been as sensitive (if not more) if Sheldon did it to Amy, because they are my ship and I want them to be perfect...

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I have had some funny and not so funny experiences with drinks at frat parties in college so, no thanks, I'd rather not see jokes where someone tampers with another's food or drink. Shamy are supposed to love and trust each other, so I would prefer if this does not become a recurring gag. That said, it has been a great season so the latest episode is the exception so far, not the rule. But, these writers have made somewhat distasteful jokes before - I remember when Amy expressed sorrow at not being a victim of college rape in season 6. So I would expect occasional lazy jokes from these writers, nothing can be done about it.

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17 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

So I was not here even for H/B, LOL! Anyway, I agree that those are jokes not to be taken too seriously, but that doesn't imply that I have to find them funny and if not I think we can discuss about it. Funnily enough, this is not even my main complain in the episode, and probably you are right that Amy doing that to Sheldon made me more sensitive to the subject. But I'm pretty sure I would have been as sensitive (if not more) if Sheldon did it to Amy, because they are my ship and I want them to be perfect...

This! I got upset for all those nasty jokes scenes on the show but I reckon I got even more sensitive when is about my ship. But what is done is done and I realy hope it won't be a recurrent "joke" for them

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57 minutes ago, April said:

I can't say much about anything that happened before I joined this forum but I can certainly say that I'm not a big fan of anyone drugging someone else - especially in case of their significant other. I can tolerate friends playing pranks to each other to some extend like Penny slipping Sheldon some alcohol in his cuba libre. However - and maybe it's because I'm a woman - the idea that my partner slips something into my drink that knocks me unconscious for hours is terrifying. The show might have had similar jokes before but it's a really tone deaf joke in this day and age. Then again most people don't seem to care and found it funny so what do I know.

Also, "sleepy time tea" doesn't knock you out but has ingredients that calm you down.

It may have been her intention to just calm him down for the flight, but it’s Sheldon and things tend to have a bigger effect on him.  I mean, look how caffeine affects him.

I wonder what happened on the return flight.  It might have been an idea to have mentioned that.

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8 minutes ago, A Shamy gal said:

It may have been her intention to just calm him down for the flight, but it’s Sheldon and things tend to have a bigger effect on him.  I mean, look how caffeine affects him.

I wonder what happened on the return flight.  It might have been an idea to have mentioned that.

Honestly, if it just were a mistake they could have had a line like "the valerian/chamomile blend worked better than expected" and the joke wouldn't be any less funny. But the way it played out it felt very intentional, hence some of us feeling uncomfortable with that.

But you know, whatever, not every joke can be a winner, humour is subjective etc etc.

I do think the episode still has enough good things in it.

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9 hours ago, April said:

Honestly, if it just were a mistake they could have had a line like "the valerian/chamomile blend worked better than expected" and the joke wouldn't be any less funny. But the way it played out it felt very intentional, hence some of us feeling uncomfortable with that.

But you know, whatever, not every joke can be a winner, humour is subjective etc etc.

I do think the episode still has enough good things in it.

 

But I think you summed it up earlier best @April after years of one step forward or two steps forward one back this season we are getting like 7 steps forward with this episode being a small step back. And there were still some nice moments between them in this one.

I guess the added bonus is we know what happens in the next one and that Shamy are still in a great place.

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8 minutes ago, Stephen Hawking said:

Was this your first visit to London/England?

No, I've said in a earlier post that my day at work was crazy so I could not post my thoughts about 10.12 yet. I have never mentioned a trip in my posts. Maybe you wanted to quote Soopysue who has been in London. :)

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On 1/6/2017 at 4:21 PM, Soopysue said:

Hello all ! We're away in London so just checking in

Is this your first trip to London/England?

8 minutes ago, spidergirl said:

Maybe you wanted to quote Soopysue who has been in London. :)

Sorry about that. I got confused. :blush: 

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9 hours ago, Jonny said:

But I think you summed it up earlier best @April after years of one step forward or two steps forward one back this season we are getting like 7 steps forward with this episode being a small step back. And there were still some nice moments between them in this one.

I guess the added bonus is we know what happens in the next one and that Shamy are still in a great place.

Yeah, I'm all for Leonard and Amy bonding but if this turns into an "exchanging terrible parenting tips" kinda thing to better "manage" Sheldon then thanks, but no thanks.

To go even one step further with that: There's always much ado about how Sheldon needs to let go of Lenny as his ersatz-parents and we slowly see him doing that.  But now it's like he's really slowly learning to let go of that and rejecting the role of being a child like he did in this episode. And I think the knowledge that people think he can't run his life can be a good motivator to step up his game even further.

But beyond that I think Amy also needs to unlearn some of the shit she had picked up during her socialisation by the gang and I think the notion that Sheldon has to be "managed" is one of that. It certainly would go nicely hand in hand with Sheldon's development for her to abandon those methods and start a more open dialogue. They seem to be doing pretty well whenever they actually talk about important issues so it would be a believable development for me if those talks would become a more frequent occurrence and we can maybe see an actual shift of the old methods from the gang falling out of favour. I mean, if the writers are putting some effort in they could still make it quirky and funny (see 10x07 hall scene).

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2 hours ago, MsRajeshFowlerCooper said:

I just saw that we aren't getting a new episode this week.  I'm so bummed.  I'm really looking forward to Shamy being the model relationship in the coming episode. It sounds like Amy will explicitly acknowledge Sheldon's efforts to be a good partner.  And that goodbye kiss, whichever version they choose, will be a wonderful addition to the series of kisses we've gotten over the last two seasons.  After the wait between the tiara kiss and the train kiss and then the perfunctory date night kiss that followed, I'm really glad they seem to be making up for lost time.  

Yeah, almost two weeks for next one. But the waiting will be worth, surely :)

I am really curious to see on screen what was in taping report. Since shamy had started living together that they have made their  best for their relationship deeps and gets more bonded and seeing them be able to display more openly  affection for each other among friends is really great.

Last two seasons have been gold indeed shamy kisses related. I would say this season has been diamond shamy pda related : hugs, kisses ( four in a single episode!), hand-holding and we are in midle of season yet!

It is amazing to be finaly able to see them to making up for lost time. Never late to find the true hapiness :)

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Yeah, we may have to wait a little longer for the next episode but until then we'll have two tapings and if we're lucky we'll have some generous people who'll provide us with some spoilers or even a full TR. Fingers crossed!! :D

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I don't know how I feel about this passionate kiss. I really hope they do it in a way that still stays true to Sheldon. However, any way that I imagine it, it just doesn't seem right. I feel like they might be jumping the gun here a bit and it makes me very anxious.

I feel like they're relationship development has gone incredibly slow over the series, and that's part of the appeal for most viewers. It's like long, drawn out foreplay that the audience gets to partake it. It was facinating, and exciting, and incredibly frustrating, which keep the viewers wanting more and more. Now, all of a sudden, everything is happening so fast? They have a long kiss when he asks her back, then they have coitus VERY soon afterwards, then they start living together which is a very big step forward, he seduces her with intent to make a baby, she meets his meemaw and he stands up for her, she learns about the ring, and now they are passionately making out in front of their friends?

Does anybody else feel like it's all just going too fast? We've never had so much intense Shamy moments crammed into such a short period of time before.

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44 minutes ago, serenaded214 said:

I don't know how I feel about this passionate kiss. I really hope they do it in a way that still stays true to Sheldon. However, any way that I imagine it, it just doesn't seem right. I feel like they might be jumping the gun here a bit and it makes me very anxious.

I feel like they're relationship development has gone incredibly slow over the series, and that's part of the appeal for most viewers. It's like long, drawn out foreplay that the audience gets to partake it. It was facinating, and exciting, and incredibly frustrating, which keep the viewers wanting more and more. Now, all of a sudden, everything is happening so fast? They have a long kiss when he asks her back, then they have coitus VERY soon afterwards, then they start living together which is a very big step forward, he seduces her with intent to make a baby, she meets his meemaw and he stands up for her, she learns about the ring, and now they are passionately making out in front of their friends?

Does anybody else feel like it's all just going too fast? We've never had so much intense Shamy moments crammed into such a short period of time before.

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Technically they've been kissing now for a couple of years so making it look awkward would be ridiculous after all the "practice" they've had.  

As for the sudden speed, they've acknowledged through Amy and or Sheldon's dialogue that it's gone a bit too slow and now that they're close to the end (and sadly, possibly THE end if this is the last season), they need to speed it up so they can wrap up the story of Shamy in a neat bow.  

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57 minutes ago, serenaded214 said:

I don't know how I feel about this passionate kiss. I really hope they do it in a way that still stays true to Sheldon. However, any way that I imagine it, it just doesn't seem right. I feel like they might be jumping the gun here a bit and it makes me very anxious.

I feel like they're relationship development has gone incredibly slow over the series, and that's part of the appeal for most viewers. It's like long, drawn out foreplay that the audience gets to partake it. It was facinating, and exciting, and incredibly frustrating, which keep the viewers wanting more and more. Now, all of a sudden, everything is happening so fast? They have a long kiss when he asks her back, then they have coitus VERY soon afterwards, then they start living together which is a very big step forward, he seduces her with intent to make a baby, she meets his meemaw and he stands up for her, she learns about the ring, and now they are passionately making out in front of their friends?

Does anybody else feel like it's all just going too fast? We've never had so much intense Shamy moments crammed into such a short period of time before.

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Season 10 Shamy developments have been at a kind of frenetic pace this season but I think it makes sense and wouldn't say it is out of character (I know you aren't saying that, but there are some who do).

Why does it make sense to me? Of course the breakup, the tough period of reflection for both of them and the reconciliation has led to a lot of these developments we are now seeing. They know they want to be together and advance their relationship. When you are deeply in love as these two are it's pretty natural to want to become closer and spend more time together.

Of course you have the external real life factor that this could be the last season. If they have a point they want to get Shamy to for example marriage they have to develop a story to get them there. I would say that the uncertainty of the show's future for sure has had an impact on storylines and at what pace they develop.

I hope they keep the pace up, but if we get news of more seasons sometime before this one ends then I am expecting a slowdown.

Intense is a good word, I would imagine if you had watched every season every year since the show started then it would feel pretty intense right now and I get that. I had the benefit I guess of watching the occasional episode over the years but then binge watching 8 seasons last year and Season 9 on tv so the fast pace of developments I am probably used to lol. In the space of a week I saw 4 years worth of Shamy relationship growth and development lol.

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8 hours ago, serenaded214 said:

I don't know how I feel about this passionate kiss. I really hope they do it in a way that still stays true to Sheldon. However, any way that I imagine it, it just doesn't seem right. I feel like they might be jumping the gun here a bit and it makes me very anxious.

I feel like they're relationship development has gone incredibly slow over the series, and that's part of the appeal for most viewers. It's like long, drawn out foreplay that the audience gets to partake it. It was facinating, and exciting, and incredibly frustrating, which keep the viewers wanting more and more. Now, all of a sudden, everything is happening so fast? They have a long kiss when he asks her back, then they have coitus VERY soon afterwards, then they start living together which is a very big step forward, he seduces her with intent to make a baby, she meets his meemaw and he stands up for her, she learns about the ring, and now they are passionately making out in front of their friends?

Does anybody else feel like it's all just going too fast? We've never had so much intense Shamy moments crammed into such a short period of time before.

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I think they kiss passionately is fine and not oc at all, they did it when they reunited, so it is not new for we see them doing on screen. Surely they have a very own way to express passion which I think it is lovely and tbh true kind. Imo not only those open mouth kisses hold such passion and I could say the kisses shared in 10.11 were shamy kisses passionate kind.

For the pace of their relationship in s10, I think it is great, it is about time, being last season or not. They live together now, they are closer more time of the day (and night) so it is organic they get into more display of affection. And I am really looking foward to that kiss in 10.13 for be a kiss shared with their friends in the room. As a fan , I want shamy being confortable to share a kiss naturally as any lover of this world. :)

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