Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 10

[April]

7 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

Probably I'm just speaking from my own experience, but you know...family background talks are one of the first "deep" subjects of conversation I have with my SO, and relatively early in the relationship. That's why I'm not convinced  it is something Shamy are discussing about just recently after they made up. Probably that was not at the very beginning, because at that point Amy was too robotic and probably even less in touch with her emotions than Sheldon was. But I think it happened at some point along the way.

I think they know the basics about each other's families but I also think that they didn't bring family stuff much into their relationship.

Amy isn't really close with her mother, and she rarely mentions her father so who knows what's up with that. Likewise Sheldon 1.0 probably couldn't have cared less about her family and I'm not sure Sheldon 2.0 has quite caught up with this judging by Amy's comment in the car in 10x12. I think there's still plenty of potential here for Sheldon to start giving a crap about her family with hilarious results.

As for Sheldon's family I equally think he didn't exactly talk much about them for similar reasons. He didn't even inform anyone that his sister was pregnant. I also don't think that there have been many family meetings with Amy cause she only officially met Meemaw last year, and I think if she had more contact with Mary she would have offered her first-name-basis a lot earlier and not only this season.

So all in all it rather points to them not talking all that much about their families. And judging by their childhood stories I can't exactly blame them because both of their families weren't exactly supportive, or at best supportive in a somewhat misguided way that didn't help them on the long run.

[Anita]

16 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

Probably that was not at the very beginning, because at that point Amy was too robotic and probably even less in touch with her emotions than Sheldon was.

 

4 minutes ago, spidergirl said:

. Sheldon dated Amy for  long time without behaving as a true boyfriend and it s from there my feeling that  they started to talk more intimately about their background after they reunited and later started to share a place.

I think amy told sheldon about her family background in the beggining in a clinical way, stating the facts in a unemotional way. And later, I'm not sure at what point she told him her family related iusses, from an emotional perspective.

[Soopysue]

Okay so I watched it again...You have all expressed so many of my thoughts....so just some of my random thoughts...
S/A could not be more in sync.  When I watched the 2nd time I focused on them as a pair and it was quite astounding to watch.
The scene in the bedroom was just perfect.  I actually loved Sheldon's line about her putting her glasses back on. She didn't look like "his Amy" without them.  Him snuggling up to her pillow, him lifting his head slightly to accept her kiss on his cheek.  It was such a lovely moment.
I'm still struggling with Amy's reference to her Dad, I just can't decide what that meant.  I thought that it might be telling that Sheldon didn't question that remark, that maybe he knows something about her Dad that we don't know.  I'm really not sure.
Is anyone besides me bugged that Sheldon has now been on their bed, more than once, with his shoes on!  I was not raised in a household that was concerned about people having shoes on in the house (I know some people are) BUT...we never, ever put our feet up on a bed with shoes on. Sheldon doing that surprises me.
Anyway, that's all I've got...lovely Shamy episode.  I wish I felt as good about the Lenny & Raj story lines.
 

Me !!! Even with all the adorableness I still noticed him with his shoes on while lying on the bed lol - it's a no no from me, shoes off !!


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[April]

11 minutes ago, Soopysue said:

Me !!! Even with all the adorableness I still noticed him with his shoes on while lying on the bed lol - it's a no no from me, shoes off !!

Me, too! Even wearing outdoor shoes indoors is already bugging me (here you take your shoes off and wear indoor slippers) but I guess it's more practical in terms of filming - having the characters fumble around with their shoes all the time would get old pretty fast.

But then to sit on your bed with your shoes as well?? TV is weird! LOL

[joyceraye]

1 hour ago, spidergirl said:

I know where do you came from because to me things about family background work in same way with my SO. I was only saying that I think shamy deepened their talks later than most of couples due their robotic behavior in beginning of their relationship. Course they talked about things but after they reunited and started to live together I think it deepened. Sheldon dated Amy for  long time without behaving as a true boyfriend and it s from there my feeling that  they started to talk more intimately about their background after they reunited and later started to share a place. Maybe this is only a feeling of mine, course for much I believe in it   it doesnt make it canon.  Just my thoughts  

I think you're spot-on, especially as Sheldon included Amy's weekend timetable in his taking-an- interest-in- other-people 'nonsense' when he told Penny Amy was available after her harp lesson was cancelled.

[Jonny]

2 hours ago, mirs1 said:

Well...Shamy have been together for six years, I think it's safe to say they know about their family history and they have talked about their relationship with their parents and what possibly went wrong there. The problem is that we as viewers don't know anything about Amy's conversations with Sheldon about those matters, LOL!

As for Amy's line about her dad, after having re-watched the episode, I think it has to do with all those daddy or mummy issues that the writers are so keen of. Amy said "You knew you hurt my feelings and I'm proud of you for reasons that I'm sure have something to do with my father"; IMO it means that it's quite odd to be proud of a person who has just hurt your feelings and that might be explained with a distorted father-daughter relationship. Just trying to find a sense to a very convoluted line, though!

Nothing would surprise me, I could easily see them knowing quite a lot about each other's family and then again they might not know much beyond the immediate family. If they do introduce some of Amy's family at some point one of the very first things I will be looking for is if Sheldon has met them. It could be like when Leonard greeted Penny's family for the renewal of vows and vice versa with Penny and Alfred. It happened off screen, but they had clearly met before.

Still don't really know what to make of the line about her father, though it has me intrigued to see if the writers have something planned at a later date to expand more on their relationship either when he was alive or if he is still living.

Edited February 4, 2017 by Jonny

[spidergirl]

1 hour ago, Jonny said:

Nothing would surprise me, I could easily see them knowing quite a lot about each other's family and then again they might not know much beyond the immediate family. If they do introduce some of Amy's family at some point one of the very first things I will be looking for is if Sheldon has met them. It could be like when Leonard greeted Penny's family for the renewal of vows and vice versa with Penny and Alfred. It happened off screen, but they had clearly met before.

Still don't really know what to make of the line about her father, though it has me intrigued to see if the writers have something planned at a later date to expand more on their relationship either when he was alive or if he is still living.

Yeah. I think the writers might have wanted in purpose put us Intrigued  about Amy's family and it might mean it could be work on progress for upcoming episodes. If we only knew if the show might continue or not, this waiting makes me anxious and limits my thoughts about more detailed scenarios  for shamy, lol!

One of the things I most wish to see was Amy could  introduce Sheldon to her family meanwhile, it could be not becausr he proposed her but because it was about time for that . It would be interisting to see their reactions about him and how would Sheldon reacted as he was being kind of judged by her family if he would be the right man to marry her. For who thinks is the best about most of things, it would be nice to see how Sheldon would deal with that family judgement as he having his Amy supporting and standing for him whatever her family could say about him. Sheldon had learned to be more humble about somethings and that could be a nice chance of we see that.

Gosh, I am thinking  too much about this, hehe!

Edited February 4, 2017 by spidergirl

[mirs1]

32 minutes ago, spidergirl said:

Yeah. I think the writers might have wanted in purpose put us Intrigued  about Amy's family and it might mean it could be work on progress for upcoming episodes. If we only knew if the show might continue or not, this waiting makes me anxious and limits my thoughts about more detailed scenarios  for shamy, lol!

Oh, I can relate so much with it. I've always been very optimistic about a renewal of the series for another couple of seasons, but the lack of an announcement and a couple of scenes here and there in the show that can also be seen as a set up for a possible series finale are starting to make me very nervous. Our captain Jim seems pretty confident about new seasons, so I trust that we'll have an announcement at some point but, really, I hope sooner rather than later.

32 minutes ago, spidergirl said:

One of the things I most wish to see was Amy could  introduce Sheldon to her family meanwhile, it could be not becausr he proposed her but because it was about time for that . It would be interisting to see their reactions about him and how would Sheldon reacted as he was being kind of judged by her family if he would be the right man to marry her. For who thinks is the best about most of things, it would be nice to see how Sheldon would deal with that family judgement as he having his Amy supporting and standing for him whatever her family could say about him. Sheldon had learned to be more humble about somethings and that could be a nice chance of we see that.

Gosh, am I thinking  too much about this, hehe!

I think Sheldon has already met Amy's family (at least her mother and her closest relatives) off-screen. They live pretty close to Pasadena and Amy seemed very eager to introduce him to them back in S. 5, so for me it's likely it has already happened, even if I don't think Sheldon sees them often.  I would love to know what they think about him, not many people like Sheldon, so I guess he has not so many fans among the Fowlers;  in general Sheldon is pretty oblivious to other people's dislike towards him, so realizing  he is not the ideal son in law Amy's mother wished could be fun a fun plot. I also agree that it would be  very nice, and Amy deserves it, if that happens before a proposal; it could give the right focus on her family and on her relationship with her parents. I would like also that, if Amy has really issues with them, Sheldon helps her, for a change, it would be nice for Sheldon to be the supportive partner.

Edited February 4, 2017 by mirs1

[serena_1995]

2 hours ago, mirs1 said:

live pretty close to Pasadena and Amy seemed very eager to introduce him to them back in S. 5, so for me it's likely it has already happened, even if I don't think Sheldon sees them often.  I would love to know what they think about him, not many people like Sheldon, so I guess he has not so many fans among the Fowlers;  in general Sheldon is pretty oblivious to other people's dislike towards him, so realizing  he is not the ideal son in law Amy's mother wished could be fun a fun plot. I also agree that it would be  very nice, and Amy deserves it, if that happens before a proposal; it could give the right focus on her family and on her relationship with her parents. I would like also that, if Amy has really issues with them, Sheldon helps her, for a change, it would be nice for Sheldon to be the supportive partner.

No i  kinda disagree.  Sheldon must defend Amy to his Meemaw, AND he must also defend/prove himself to Amy's family too ? In other words, Sheldon must do all the work and all the gestures , either way ??

I feel, Sheldon has faced enough ridicule and mocking from people including his friends and his own mother. Hell, even Amy believes she is his best shot and very few women would put up with him. What you suggest would be kinda cruel IMO. Another plot where he is not an ideal son in law would be again predictable.  Instead of appreciating different people, it would send a message that people need to confirm to society's standards , otherwise they are worthless. It would be manufactured melodramatic family drama more than anything else. It would be another episode of "Sheldon proves his love for Amy" or  "Sheldon improving himself for Amy" - and I feel I have seen enough of that.

What would be refreshing is if Amy's family are surprisingly positive/cool about Sheldon, and maybe if they HAVE to dislike Sheldon, I feel Amy needs to be the one to defend him. Sheldon has stepped up big time this season, he has always been faithful to Amy, and with his commitment to live with Amy, his brain scan gesture, his brunch surprise and what not, and I feel he deserves some defense. And I feel they should focus on Amy's own relationship with her parents , and make Sheldon a non-issue so he can just be there to support her.  Unfortunately, knowing these writers, they will not do this.

Edited February 4, 2017 by serena_1995

[mirs1]

2 minutes ago, serena_1995 said:

No i  kinda disagree.  Sheldon must defend Amy to his Meemaw, AND he must also defend/prove himself to Amy's family too ? In other words, Sheldon must do all the work and all the gestures , either way ??

I feel, Sheldon has faced enough ridicule and mocking from people including his friends and his own mother. Hell, even Amy believes she is his best shot and very few women would put up with him. What you suggest would be kinda cruel IMO. Another plot where he is not an ideal son in law would be again predictable.  Instead of appreciating different people, it would send a message that people need to confirm to society's standards , otherwise they are worthless. It would be manufactured melodramatic family drama more than anything else. It would be another episode of "Sheldon proves his love for Amy" or "Sheldon makes a gesture for Amy", "Sheldon improving himself for Amy" - and I feel I have seen enough of that.

What would be refreshing is if Amy's family are surprisingly positive/cool about Sheldon, and maybe if they HAVE to dislike Sheldon, I feel Amy needs to be the one to defend him. Sheldon has stepped up big time this season, he has always been faithful to Amy, and with his commitment to live with Amy, his brain scan gesture, his brunch surprise and what not, and I feel he deserves some defense. And I feel they should focus on Amy's own relationship with her parents , and make Sheldon a non-issue so he can just be there to support her.  Unfortunately, knowing these writers, they will not do this.

I wasn't implying anything that dramatic, no mocking, no Sheldon proving anthing to anybody or doing all the work. I was just saying that a plot where Sheldon thinks Amy's mum likes him very much and discovers she doesn't could be funny. And Amy could be the one standing for him in this situation, as he stood for her with Meemaw. 

[April]

8 minutes ago, serena_1995 said:

 Instead of appreciating different people, it would send a message that people need to confirm to society's standards , otherwise they are worthless.

I would disagree that a story like that would necessarily send that message cause as the audience we're supposed to root for Sheldon and Amy and not for the people who are mean to them.

I do agree however with your sentiment that it's a bit "been there, done that" for this show, heck even for this couple cause that was basically the plot with Mary a few episodes ago. So if they do something like that they'd need to put a new spin on it. And that could indeed be funny.

8 minutes ago, serena_1995 said:

What would be refreshing is if Amy's family are surprisingly positive/cool about Sheldon, and maybe if they HAVE to dislike Sheldon, I feel Amy needs to be the one to defend him. Sheldon has stepped up big time this season, he has always been faithful to Amy, and with his commitment to live with Amy, his brain scan gesture, his brunch surprise and what not, and I feel he deserves some defense. And I feel they should focus on Amy's own relationship with her parents , and make Sheldon a non-issue so he can just be there to support her.  Unfortunately, knowing these writers, they will not do this.

I would really either of those scenarios. Anybody being surprisingly cool with Sheldon is a side the show hasn't really tapped into as a source of humour - or at least not as frequently as the trademark "Sheldon is annoying" shtick.

Also, big YES to Amy defending Sheldon if necessary. As I said in another post a little while ago I'd love if at some points her patience with other characters' mean comments about Sheldon runs out and she just rips them a new one. LOL As you said, Sheldon has really stepped up his game and deserves someone to stand up for him.

And last but not least, indeed it would be great to see Sheldon take a step back and let Amy deal with her family. After all her family could be completely bonkers in their own way and he can be a bit of an observer and the humour comes from Sheldon of all people being the sane man for once. Not the most likely scenario but a girl can dream, right?

[serena_1995]

27 minutes ago, April said:

I would disagree that a story like that would necessarily send that message cause as the audience we're supposed to root for Sheldon and Amy and not for the people who are mean to them.

I do agree however with your sentiment that it's a bit "been there, done that" for this show, heck even for this couple cause that was basically the plot with Mary a few episodes ago. So if they do something like that they'd need to put a new spin on it. And that could indeed be funny.

I would really either of those scenarios. Anybody being surprisingly cool with Sheldon is a side the show hasn't really tapped into as a source of humour - or at least not as frequently as the trademark "Sheldon is annoying" shtick.

Also, big YES to Amy defending Sheldon if necessary. As I said in another post a little while ago I'd love if at some points her patience with other characters' mean comments about Sheldon runs out and she just rips them a new one. LOL As you said, Sheldon has really stepped up his game and deserves someone to stand up for him.

And last but not least, indeed it would be great to see Sheldon take a step back and let Amy deal with her family. After all her family could be completely bonkers in their own way and he can be a bit of an observer and the humour comes from Sheldon of all people being the sane man for once. Not the most likely scenario but a girl can dream, right?

 

Yes, completely agree.  people who are cool with Sheldon -(Dave and his physics groupies come to my mind), end up being pretty funny/crazy characters themselves. An episode focusing on Amy's own equation with her family would be great.  If Amy has some issues with her family , I would love to see a Sheldon initiated cuddle to comfort her in their new 4B bedroom . kind of like a mirror of the bedroom scene in Emotion Detection Automation.

One gesture I do want Sheldon to do is propose to Amy(if and when it happens) . Amy proposing will not have the same impact, given the way they set it up.

Edited February 4, 2017 by serena_1995

[Jonny]

Yeah it would be good if they approached some storylines or themes from a different perspective sometimes, as it sure would make it interesting. I think we naturally look at a lot of storylines and speculate on future ones from say Sheldon's perspective because that is largely the way it has always been and likely will continue with the way the show is just set up.

[spidergirl]

Agree with @serena_1995 about a plotline where we would see something like Sheldon initiating cuddle to confort Amy about issues with her family. The story might be from Amy 's pov but the main purpose might be Sheldon's gesture, I mean, as he would be able to confort Amy, another growth step from his side. It would be a nice plotline, we would know more from Amy's relationship with her family and the main purpose could be they would be able as couple to mirror support for better and worse situations to each other. Imo it would fit perfectly in the show plotlines. After all,  Amy is one of main characters 's girlfriend so it would be great a plotline about her as Sheldon would have a big influence in the way plotline developed.

Edited February 4, 2017 by spidergirl

[spidergirl]

The promo for "Locomotion reverbation" is up, shamies!

Amy is so gorgeous with that beige dress! Love makes people even more beautiful! Her smile makes me smile

And there is a shelnard moment so cool! Sheldon initiated a hug with Leonard as he is bursting of joy! It will be a tbbt moment for remember with much joy!

Edited February 4, 2017 by spidergirl

[mirs1]

15 minutes ago, spidergirl said:

The promo for "Locomotion reverbation" is up, shamies!

Amy is so gorgeous with that beige dress! Love makes people even more beautiful! Her smile makes me smile

And there is a shelnard moment so cool! Sheldon initiated a hug with Leonard as he is bursting of joy! It will be a tbbt moment for remember with much joy!

That is for me the best outfit ever for Amy, I love that dress on her; Sheldon is also cute as a train-engineer and we have not seen the best part of it yet, if you know what I mean...The promo is really promising, that is gonna be a lovely episode!

Edited February 4, 2017 by mirs1

[spidergirl]

17 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

That is for me the best outfit ever for Amy, I love that dress on her; Sheldon is also cute as a his train-engineer and we have not seen the best part of it yet, if you know what I mean...The promo is really promising, that is gonna be a lovely episode!

I know what you mean, hehe. This thread is going to have a loco moment soon, lol!

For what we could see from promo, our shamy is cute and gorgeous ever!  That's my favourite Amy dress so far and Sheldon is so cute in his train- engineer outfit. Amy 's dress has a discreet but lovely cleavage and Sheldon 's hair is so hot... those two are really getting sexier, aren't they? 

Can't  wait for see everything on screen! This episode is so promising in  many levels! Whoooo!

 

Edited February 4, 2017 by spidergirl

[amethyst]

Loved Amy's " the bra under here ain't beige ". She's so adorable!!

And Sheldon is so..HOT!!

[Desdemona]

Oh boy, I´ve just seen the promo for 10x15 (Unfortunately I only found the one with Sheldon and the guys, not the Amy preview. )

Sheldon hugs Leonard so passionately, if I were Amy I would be jealous.

My Shelnard heart is dancing! I love their buddy moments!

And Sheldon looks so hot in that train engineer outfit, I love the loose strand of hair and the way he bows his arm, he is so damn cute (and damn sexy!), when he is passionate  about something.

I can´t wait to see the episode I´m so excited!

 

 

12 minutes ago, spidergirl said:

I know what you mean, hehe. This thread is going to have a loco moment soon, lol!

For what we could see from promo, our shamy is cute and gorgeous ever!  That's my favourite Amy dress so far and Sheldon is so cute in his train- engineer outfit. Amy 's dress has a discreet but lovely cleavage and Sheldon 's hair is so hot... those two are really getting sexier, aren't they? 

Can't  wait for see everything on screen! This episode is so promising in  many levels! Whoooo!

 

I know what you mean "mi coco se está volviendo loco!" lol

Can´t wait to see Amy in that dress, I´m sure she will look gorgeous!

[RoRo]

Amy looks great in the preview!! That is how they should be dressing her. She looks confident and sexy while still being modest.

[serena_1995]

7 minutes ago, Desdemona said:

Oh boy, I´ve just seen the promo for 10x15 (Unfortunately I only found the one with Sheldon and the guys, not the Amy preview. )

Sheldon hugs Leonard so passionately, if I were Amy I would be jealous.

My Shelnard heart is dancing! I love their buddy moments!

And Sheldon looks so hot in that train engineer outfit, I love the loose strand of hair and the way he bows his arm, he is so damn cute (and damn sexy!), when he is passionate  about something.

I can´t wait to see the episode I´m so excited!

 

there is one clip posted in the discussion thread, u can find it there. The color of the dress looks really nice on Amy.  and Sheldon looks very attractive in non-Sheldon clothes with slightly messed up hair . the tousled hair look on Jim always works,

[spidergirl]

2 minutes ago, serena_1995 said:

 

there is one clip posted in the discussion thread, u can find it there. The color of the dress looks really nice on Amy.  and Sheldon looks very attractive in non-Sheldon clothes with slightly messed up hair . the tousled hair look on Jim always works,

These tbbt yt vids are not avaiable for europe...

[Desdemona]

3 minutes ago, serena_1995 said:

 

there is one clip posted in the discussion thread, u can find it there. The color of the dress looks really nice on Amy.  and Sheldon looks very attractive in non-Sheldon clothes with slightly messed up hair . the tousled hair look on Jim always works,

Thank you Serena, I tried to open it, but I can´t watch it.

Well, I will see it as soon as it airs, or at least as soon as we get further promo pics.

For me he could wear his hair like that more often, he looks really good indeed.

I thought it sexy working on that engine. He looked so manly, I simply love it!

Edited February 4, 2017 by Desdemona

[Desdemona]

On 3.2.2017 at 4:26 PM, anicez said:

I'm just going to remember you that in one week we are going to be seeing this body without shirt .... just that  

I hope we get to see his naked biceps as well. *Drifting into the zone*

[April]

I also loved the promo!

Amy looks amazing in her dress and I would really enjoy it if they continue these kinds of dresses as her date night/girls night out look. The cut reminds me of the dress she wore to the date with Dave in 9x08 which I really really liked as well. <3

And Sheldon being so excited and tinkering with the engine is so cute! The tousled hair is especially adorable. teehee

As an aside: I saw Hidden Figures earlier today and Jim's character is wearing a wedding band the whole time and I was a bit surprised when I caught myself thinking how much I would enjoy seeing Sheldon wearing one. I'm usually not on team "let's marry them off ASAP" but you know, it looked good on him.