Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 10

[joyceraye]

12 minutes ago, Stephen Hawking said:

I'd prefer the movie theater:-

Amy, I believe I would like to alter the paradigm of our relationship, in that, I would not object to us, no longer characterizing you, as not my fiancee.

They could then go to the coffee shop to celebrate.

[spidergirl]

8 hours ago, joyceraye said:

My fondest memory of the meeting in the coffee shop is the moment Sheldon decided to make it a date and not a brush-off : ' May I buy you a beverage ?' .

Those words will one day be remembered as well as ' Wherefore art thou Romeo ?'.

I have rewatched their first meeting so many times! But I have always the same feeling of "these two must be together" because the scene is really powerful. The look Sheldon had as he looked at Amy before he offered to pay the beverage , wow! It may have not been love at first sight but defenitely was love at first brain impression, hehe!

Btw, I have told here that I have followed tbbt only since spring of 2015, when I finaly followed my friends advice and started to watch tbbt. After  I watched the shamy first meeting episode, I spent my  evenings after work catching like crazy with the show! And then the rest is history as you know, since last summer I am here.

 

[snapepans]

9 hours ago, serenaded214 said:

You know, one of my biggest problems with how their relationship turned out is that when they first met, he had tons of respect for her. He held her to such a high regard with the way he talked about her. He enjoyed spending time with her and playing their little games. It seemed like they were on the same wavelength.

Idk why things changed, but they did. I'm glad their on the same page now, but I still hated how their relationship "developed"

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The bold part, so agree with you.

 I remembered when I watched 706(The Romance Resonance)for the first time, Sheldon said:"Oh great, now I'm worse than a fraud, I'm practically a biologist." And Amy said nothing, NOTHING. I mean...I was so shocked. I get that the line was a joke and all that, but I still think this plot was out of character for Amy, considering their first "break up" in 403(The Zazzy Substitution). The episode 706 seems to me like they were NOT on the same page.  Amy is one of my favourite characters, but with the plots they writes about her, sometimes, even I got frustrated with the things she say or do(or NOT say or do).

That being said, I'm so glad we got the tag of 1004(The Cohabitation Experimentation), the "not accept any crap about her profession”Amy is back, and I totally enjoyed their scene. Both of them were so passionate about the "bickering", and the sexual tension was so great. That seems to me they are absolutely on the same page. I love that episode, and I still think it's the funniest one so far in season 10.

[Stephen Hawking]

3 hours ago, spidergirl said:

The look Sheldon had as he looked at Amy before he offered to pay the beverage , wow!

Not forgetting the look Amy gave Sheldon, followed by the glance away, after Howard said "Good God, what have we done?".

[joyceraye]

1 hour ago, snapepans said:

The bold part, so agree with you.

 I remembered when I watched 706(The Romance Resonance)for the first time, Sheldon said:"Oh great, now I'm worse than a fraud, I'm practically a biologist." And Amy said nothing, NOTHING. I mean...I was so shocked. I get that the line was a joke and all that, but I still think this plot was out of character for Amy, considering their first "break up" in 403(The Zazzy Substitution). The episode 706 seems to me like they were NOT on the same page.  Amy is one of my favourite characters, but with the plots they writes about her, sometimes, even I got frustrated with the things she say or do(or NOT say or do).

That being said, I'm so glad we got the tag of 1004(The Cohabitation Experimentation), the "not accept any crap about her profession”Amy is back, and I totally enjoyed their scene. Both of them were so passionate about the "bickering", and the sexual tension was so great. That seems to me they are absolutely on the same page. I love that episode, and I still think it's the funniest one so far in season 10.

I think she accepted Sheldon's snidey reaction to her trying to soothe him in 706 because she didn't want to upset him further. Sheldon was too stressed about finding his massive mistake to be worth arguing with, but when there's nothing like that at stake, Amy gives as good as she gets. Later, when she said she wasn't proud of him and disdained his silly error,he found her honesty romantic and was pleased with it. She was speaking on his level then.

On the other occasions when they've bickered over the relative merits of their fields, it's been straightforward, nothing but science  involved. 

[spidergirl]

1 hour ago, Stephen Hawking said:

Not forgetting the look Amy gave Sheldon, followed by the glance away, after Howard said "Good God, what have we done?".

Course I would not forgetting that look, lol! As usually you notice all Amy's quotes and reactions, I was kind of  waiting you pointed it out.  

Edited February 15, 2017 by spidergirl

[Stephen Hawking]

Amy has lots of reactions.

Notice the tiny head twitch, after she's started the music, just before she lays across Sheldon's lap, in Fish Guts.

Likewise, in Closure Alternative, the quick glance at his crotch (only her eyes move), before she says "Yeah, sounds like a drag."

Both are so discrete, you could almost miss them, yet they say so much.

Edited February 15, 2017 by Stephen Hawking

[April]

Re: Amy's deal

One of the things that has been brought up as proof of her heightened sexual desires is the old gag of Amy being "gay for Penny" and I think it's actually the perfect point to illustrate how perception of a running gag can go completely beyond the intend of the writers and lead to a wrong reading of the character.

From what I remember this was just meant as Amy having an adolescent girl crush on Penny cause now was the first time in life Amy was friends with the popular girl. But it wasn't intended as Amy having actual sexual urges towards her or even that Amy was seriously bi or whatever. Personally I would have loved if Amy were bi but that's not what the writers intended. It was a harmless joke that spiralled out of control and then was axed quickly the moment the audience didn't find it funny anymore. (I'm sure someone with a more accurate memory can dig out the relevant interviews from a few years back... was it Paley? Comic Con??)

Now, of course you can go on a metaphorical murdering spree in the writers room and declare the author dead but for a project like this that's made up on the fly disregarding the writers intentions completely will naturally leave you in a state of "nothing makes sense anymore!!" when you made up your mind and are not willing to course correct yourself when it's been revealed that plot points have a different meaning than the one uphold by conventional fandom wisdom. Just my two cents on the matter...

[Stephen Hawking]

22 minutes ago, April said:

(I'm sure someone with a more accurate memory can dig out the relevant interviews from a few years back... was it Paley? Comic Con??)the matter...

It was Paleyfest 2013 (compered by the wonderful Pauley Perrette), and the remark about Amy being "kind of gay for Penny" was in a question from an audience member, not a comment from any member of  the cast or writers.

 

[2L344]

3 hours ago, April said:

Re: Amy's deal

One of the things that has been brought up as proof of her heightened sexual desires is the old gag of Amy being "gay for Penny" and I think it's actually the perfect point to illustrate how perception of a running gag can go completely beyond the intend of the writers and lead to a wrong reading of the character.

From what I remember this was just meant as Amy having an adolescent girl crush on Penny cause now was the first time in life Amy was friends with the popular girl. But it wasn't intended as Amy having actual sexual urges towards her or even that Amy was seriously bi or whatever. Personally I would have loved if Amy were bi but that's not what the writers intended. It was a harmless joke that spiralled out of control and then was axed quickly the moment the audience didn't find it funny anymore. (I'm sure someone with a more accurate memory can dig out the relevant interviews from a few years back... was it Paley? Comic Con??)

Now, of course you can go on a metaphorical murdering spree in the writers room and declare the author dead but for a project like this that's made up on the fly disregarding the writers intentions completely will naturally leave you in a state of "nothing makes sense anymore!!" when you made up your mind and are not willing to course correct yourself when it's been revealed that plot points have a different meaning than the one uphold by conventional fandom wisdom. Just my two cents on the matter...

My wife and I for the most part always considered the relationship a huge girl crush on the popular girl like you just described. Penny was street smart, sexy and beautiful, and knew her way around relationships. Amy latched onto her pretty quickly and forced the friendship initially, which was good for a few laughs early on. 

I think the writers started to blur the lines a bit with some of their scenes between the two as Amy got more screen time and that relationship was fleshing out. They had Amy sharing an alcohol fueled kiss with her, had Amy pursue Penny into the bedroom during the slumber party to presumably grope her, and had Amy present a ridiculously priced painting of the two that was originally painted with them being nude. Im sure there are other examples of the writers toying with the line between a girl crush on the popular girl and something more.

That being said, I thought those scenes were hilarious and never thought the writers would take it to the extreme with the relationship. I did, however, ask myself why the writers were "going there" with some of the dialogue and other scenes that suggested there was something more with Amy's view of Penny. In the end I figured the writers were presenting Amy as sort of a teen at band camp exploring things that maybe she didnt have an opportunity to do when growing up, given her sheltered upbringing and lack of social interactions with others.

I still enjoy watching those earlier episodes of Amy and Penny; Amy has come a long way since then (which is fun to watch nowadays in its own right) but there are times I miss the inappropriate and awkward gal who was a bit insecure about herself and was over the top in her behavior. The cool thing about loving a show thats in its 10th season is that there is such a long history with the characters, and we can go back and forth in their worlds through dvd's to enjoy them to suit our moods! 

Edited February 15, 2017 by 2L344

[April]

19 minutes ago, 2L344 said:

I think the writers started to blur the lines a bit with some of their scenes between the two as Amy got more screen time and that relationship was fleshing out. They had Amy sharing an alcohol fueled kiss with her, had Amy pursue Penny into the bedroom during the slumber party to presumably grope her, and had Amy present a ridiculously priced painting of the two that was originally painted with them being nude. Im sure there are other examples of the writers toying with the line between a girl crush on the popular girl and something more.

Yeah, they definitely pushed the boundaries with this kind of joke but stuff like the slumber party really underlined the sheer inexperience Amy had and how she misguidedly flung herself into these kinds of experiences. It was quite endearing at times, and part of what she did reminded me of my youth - not the bedroom groping stuff though! LOL

I don't think it's a far stretch to see much of what Amy did as her navigating all those new experiences and social situations, and learning the robes of suddenly having friends and even a boyfriend on top of it. Finding out who she is in this new situation brought a lot of changes and she needed some time to settle down. Obviously on the writers' side of things she was a new character and they had to figure out what to do with her. So much as with all the other characters she'd have some sudden changes or inconsistencies compared to the character she eventually would grow into.

[Kathy2611]

Yes, the girl crush on the popular girl by the nerdy one who didn't get to experience normal teenage stuff.  But like the writers literally admitted to themselves, it was a funny joke that got widely out of hand to the point it had to get slapped across their face when the audience didn't laugh anymore.  Chuck has said he hates that.  

I'm half afraid that the "once a year coitis" is another joke they find funny that no one else does.  And it's going to take another slap across the face to get them to see it.

A co worker who is a casual viewer (and thinks I'm funny for being so obsessed)  was talking to me about the preview they saw for next week.  Well, this week.  They were floored that tptb were still going with the once a year gag.   It didn't make since to them either but then they mentioned Sheldon, not Amy, who has had sex on the brain almost from the beginning.  

I don't think she named them all but we came up with several.  

- telling Amy's mom they were sexually active.  Even if it was Amy's idea, he agreed to it.

- the "bazinga" after they got off skype with her.   "Amy, I find myself wondering if we should actually engage in coitus at least one time in our relationship."

Seems to have crossed his mind.  Especially if it was his idea to begin with.  

- herb garden.  Again, who's idea was it and if it was hers, he agreed to it.  And then there's this little slip of the tongue..."I must say, Amy, pretending to have intercourse with you is giving me a great deal of satisfaction."  Oh, really?  Mmmm.....

- d & d.  And that was HIS idea.  She was willing to go back to the group.  He physically stopped her and made his suggestion.  And she agreed.

- fantasizing about her pale hunged shoulders.  How do you know what her shoulders looked like Sheldon?  Fish Guts hadn't aired yet.  

- speaking of Fish Guts, I still don't buy the idea that he didn't know what he was doing when he spanked her.  If that man can tell that pretending to be a chicken pecking for corn while hypnotized when in actuality describing a blow job, then he damn well knows what it means to spank someone.  He does know how to play dumb and be manipulative when he wants to be.  He has playfully spanked her at least twice since then.  

- worried she might have sex with Stuart.

- worried she had sex with someone while they were broken up.

- nailed her at the first opportunity (her Birthday being an excuse of celebration).  But he was set on nailing her before he screws up and loses her again while she was still "germ free."  I think he went to P & B to get confirmation that option was still available on Amy's part.  

- "Oh, everything is just sex with you isn’t it?"  Dude, she just thought you'd like to take a walk and clear your head since you're upset.  

- "...Listen to this. This is from two days ago. Hi. Hope you’re having a good day. Who has time for this constant sexting?"  What else do you considering sexting or sex related?  And why do you seem to being thinking everything with her is sexual?  All she wanted was for you to have a nice day.  And what's even more interesting is that you're still harping on it 2 days later.

- living and sleeping together for months on end and even, "I enjoyed that more than I thought I would." and yet you're ok with once a year?  

Yeah, right.  My co worker described it as giving the audience a piece of cake and after the first bite, taking the plate away.  Most people wouldn't like that.

Here we are talking about Amy when we probably should be talking about Sheldon

 

 

[April]

1 hour ago, Kathy2611 said:

Yes, the girl crush on the popular girl by the nerdy one who didn't get to experience normal teenage stuff.  But like the writers literally admitted to themselves, it was a funny joke that got widely out of hand to the point it had to get slapped across their face when the audience didn't laugh anymore.  Chuck has said he hates that.  

I'm half afraid that the "once a year coitis" is another joke they find funny that no one else does.  And it's going to take another slap across the face to get them to see it.

I really hope that happens!

Though I guess the writers might be anticipating this to some extend and in result they're sidestepping the issue as much as they can. For example, while this week's episode uses the once-a-year deal as a plot device the issue is explicitly about Sheldon's inability to keep things private instead of them talking about whether or not they want to get rid of that old deal. After the positive reaction towards 9x11 the writers would need to be wilfully ignorant to think that the audience wouldn't like Shamy being sexually active - even more so now in S10 when they actually tested the waters with Shamy being more and more overt about what gets their motor running sparking some of the funniest episodes this season. I think they know what the audience would think very well which is also why I think they avoid any situation that would push them to make that exact decision so they'll drag it out until they squeezed the last possible laugh out of it. Fingers crossed that threshold is passed sooner rather than later!

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A co worker who is a casual viewer (and thinks I'm funny for being so obsessed)  was talking to me about the preview they saw for next week.  Well, this week.  They were floored that tptb were still going with the once a year gag.   It didn't make since to them either but then they mentioned Sheldon, not Amy, who has had sex on the brain almost from the beginning.  

I don't think she named them all but we came up with several.  

...

Yeah, right.  My co worker described it as giving the audience a piece of cake and after the first bite, taking the plate away.  Most people wouldn't like that.

Here we are talking about Amy when we probably should be talking about Sheldon

LOL Right? Ever since he met Amy Sheldon is the one who has sex on the mind but somehow Amy is the one desperately wanting to have sex all the time. Sure.

Edited February 15, 2017 by April

[Jonny]

Ok let's say the rumors are true and we get at least another two seasons left of the show what impact do you think that might have on the show and the pace of developments? Will we get a slowdown? Will they postpone for example the engagement until next season?

I would still get them engaged this season, from a storytelling perspective with Amy starting to question why Sheldon hasn't proposed yet (she has known about the ring for some time now) it still makes sense imo to do it this season. It would be a nice cap off to a fantastic Shamy Season 10.

Season 11 then could be about planning and having the wedding. I think there is a potential goldmine for comedy there especially if they plan a wedding and what we know about Amy lol. Also maybe explore her family in more detail in the buildup to the big day? 

Then in Season 12 you get to see a bit of married life with Shamy and whatever the writers have planned in terms of what will happen to every character/couple on the show at the end point.

Thoughts? Anything you would like to see happen or at what pace assuming a two-season deal is signed?

Edited February 15, 2017 by Jonny

[sarah7]

So, every time Amy mentions something sex-related it's either a) Just a medium she uses as an aid for bonding with the other girls, b )An example of the unfortunate habit of mocking the frumpy girl the writers have, c) Just another running joke, the one about the sheer absurdity that anyone could ever fancy Sheldon or d) A throwaway joke.

However, every time Sheldon mentions sex, it's an unequivocal sign of his burgeoning and increasingly uncontrollable sexual desire?

Okay, point taken.

[vonmar]

4 minutes ago, Jonny said:

Ok let's say the rumors are true and we get at least another two seasons left of the show what impact do you think that might have on the show and the pace of developments? Will we get a slowdown? Will they postpone for example the engagement until next season?

I would still get them engaged this season, from a storytelling perspective with Amy starting to question why Sheldon hasn't proposed yet (she has known about the ring for some time now) it still makes sense imo to do it this season. It would be a nice cap off to a fantastic Shamy Season 10.

Season 11 then could be about planning and having the wedding, I think there is a potential goldmine for comedy there especially if they plan a wedding and what we know about Amy lol. Maybe explore her family in more detail in the buildup to the big day? 

Then in Season 12 you get to see a bit of married life with Shamy and whatever the writers have planned in terms of what will happen to every character/couple on the show at the end point.

Thoughts? Anything you would like to see happen or at what pace assuming a two-season deal is signed?

I think that the Season 10 finale could be a Shamy engagement and a Lenny pregnancy cliffhanger.

Two great places to start Season 11 stories.

[Capt. Hilts]

4 hours ago, sarah7 said:

So, every time Amy mentions something sex-related it's either a) Just a medium she uses as an aid for bonding with the other girls, b )An example of the unfortunate habit of mocking the frumpy girl the writers have, c) Just another running joke, the one about the sheer absurdity that anyone could ever fancy Sheldon or d) A throwaway joke.

However, every time Sheldon mentions sex, it's an unequivocal sign of his burgeoning and increasingly uncontrollable sexual desire?

Interesting points. 

[mirs1]

8 hours ago, Jonny said:

Ok let's say the rumors are true and we get at least another two seasons left of the show what impact do you think that might have on the show and the pace of developments? Will we get a slowdown? Will they postpone for example the engagement until next season?

I would still get them engaged this season, from a storytelling perspective with Amy starting to question why Sheldon hasn't proposed yet (she has known about the ring for some time now) it still makes sense imo to do it this season. It would be a nice cap off to a fantastic Shamy Season 10.

Season 11 then could be about planning and having the wedding. I think there is a potential goldmine for comedy there especially if they plan a wedding and what we know about Amy lol. Also maybe explore her family in more detail in the buildup to the big day? 

Then in Season 12 you get to see a bit of married life with Shamy and whatever the writers have planned in terms of what will happen to every character/couple on the show at the end point.

Thoughts? Anything you would like to see happen or at what pace assuming a two-season deal is signed?

I agree more or less with your timeline. As you, I would like to see an engagement this season, I think it's time at this point. It's not really that I need to see them married, because Shamy basically are married right now, we have had glimpses of their married life all season, a ring on their fingers would not change things too much, they have already adjusted to live together and share their personal space, I can't imagine anything new or different that could be done on that respect after the actual marriage. But I would love that they are married during the last season.   Anyway, Amy crying in that parking lot in the last episode made me think. That part of the scene was there also to set up Bernie's joke in the end, so probably the whole thing was over the top. Nonetheless, she knows about the ring for one year now. What does she think about it? Sheldon has sat on that ring for two years and has not used yet. If that happened to me, I'd be questioning why. At this point, I hope it happens this season.

[spidergirl]

9 hours ago, Jonny said:

Ok let's say the rumors are true and we get at least another two seasons left of the show what impact do you think that might have on the show and the pace of developments? Will we get a slowdown? Will they postpone for example the engagement until next season?

I would still get them engaged this season, from a storytelling perspective with Amy starting to question why Sheldon hasn't proposed yet (she has known about the ring for some time now) it still makes sense imo to do it this season. It would be a nice cap off to a fantastic Shamy Season 10.

Season 11 then could be about planning and having the wedding. I think there is a potential goldmine for comedy there especially if they plan a wedding and what we know about Amy lol. Also maybe explore her family in more detail in the buildup to the big day? 

Then in Season 12 you get to see a bit of married life with Shamy and whatever the writers have planned in terms of what will happen to every character/couple on the show at the end point.

Thoughts? Anything you would like to see happen or at what pace assuming a two-season deal is signed?

My thoughts are mostly the same that yours by this time. I think it would be nice and about time a proposal in last episodes of this season for we could see in first half of s11 all preparation for the wedding.  It would be gold indeed for comedy and cuteness as we got glimpses from shamy relatives  before the wedding, especially Amy's we know so so litle yet. And it would be  so nice aswe got scenes about how your couple would be feeling for such big step in their lives. The wedding could be the s11 season finnale.

S12 we could get glimpses of shamy married . Not much indeed would change as they are so married as said well @mirs1 , it is only missing the ceremony and wedding bands  on their fingers.  However it might open opportunities for we see on the show litle things that would deep in their relationship as they were for long time by then sharing a place and having more plans as couple to their future.

And I know this my next thought is not shared by most of shamies but I would like to get a glimpse of a shamy child. It could be in last episode of the show but imo and we have seen several hints they would eventually have one one day , it  would fit and close the circle  in a perfect way with that moment very earlier of their relationship as shamy planned to have a baby in a petri dish.  With the huge difference that they might conceive a baby by the traditional way, as scientists are able to love and to be loved and built a family like everybody else

Edited February 16, 2017 by spidergirl

[mirs1]

10 minutes ago, spidergirl said:

My thoughts are mostly the same that yours by this time. I think it would be nice and about time a proposal in last episodes of this season for we could see in first half of s11 all preparation for the wedding.  It would be gold indeed for comedy and cuteness as we got glimpses from shamy relatives  before the wedding, especially Amy's we know so so litle yet. And it would be  so nice aswe got scenes about how your couple would be feeling for such big step in their lives. The wedding could be the s11 season finnale.

S12 we could get glimpses of shamy married . Not much indeed would change as they are so married as said well @mirs1 , it is only missing the ceremony and wedding bands  on their fingers.  However it might open opportunities for we see on the show litle things that would deep in their relationship as they were for long time by then sharing a place and having more plans as couple to their future.

And I know this my next thought is not shared by most of shamies but I would like to get a glimpse of a shamy child. It could be in last episode of the show but imo and we have seen several hints they would eventually have one one day , it  would fit and close the circle  in a perfect way with that moment very earlier of their relationship as shamy planned to have a baby in a petri dish.  With the huge difference that they might conceive a baby by the traditional way, as scientists are able to love ans to be loved and built a family like everybody else

Oh, I have no problem if that happens in the final episode, actually my dream-ending would be a flash forward of a few years, that shows us how the lives of all characters evolved, with children, career accomplishment and everything. Anyway, I would not want to see Shamy (or Lenny) having a child during the 2 years run of the show. 4A-hallway-4B are for me iconic and I'm not sure I could recognize TBBT anymore if Shamy or Lenny move. In 4B there's obviously no room for a baby, so if Shamy have a child, they'll have inevitably to move to a larger place. 4A has a spare room, so Lenny theoretically can  have a baby and stay in 4A, but I don't know how feasible it is to carry a stroller for 4 floors of stairs, and don't tell me they'll fix the elevator, because that's iconic too!!!

[April]

So then, my two cents on two more seasons with Shamy:

First of all: Hooray, two more seasons! I know, not everything will be sunshine and rainbows during those but for the most part I'm happy about it. If nothing else it means two more years hanging out with you guys!! <3

Anyway, what I want for Shamy:

- Since it's been discussed to death I'd love to see the coitus agreement changed. As I've elaborated in plenty of posts during the past days I do think they're both on the same page with this and it's just a question of the writers finally taking the plunge instead of the characters being ready/willing. Do I think Amy would like it more than once a year? Yes! Do I think Sheldon would like it more than once a year? Oh boy, yes! Just write that story, writers, and get it over with! That said though, while ideally I would prefer this to happen in S10 I realise that this point might be one easily dragged out into S11. Ugh.

- Move on from the "Sheldon learns a lesson" formula. Now, I'm well aware that I'm one of the few people here who has actually been delighted by the genuine progress Sheldon has made since the breakup. Ever since there's been a whole series of stories where he is eagerly tackling one of his shortcomings and working on the problem. And unlike critics who think this is unnecessary and repetitive I think those stories do justify their existence by the mere fact that the writers are actually letting these changes stick this time. What good is it if we had a similar story years ago but Sheldon wasn't interested in taking anything away from them? I'm rather critical of those missed opportunities in the past than the writers doing it proper this time. But I digress. As much as I like these stories we now had like 1-2 years of them and at some point you're just running out of Sheldon's issues to fix. So by all means tie this up in a nice bow this season and let him move on to live his life in S11 and S12 without making every other episode a therapy session.

- Which leads me to the engagement. I think one way to tie up the Sheldon self improvement project would be to sell this whole thing as his way to prove that he can be proper husband material. If there's one huge insecurity Sheldon has it's that Amy may for some reason not think highly of him and since he's become more self aware that surely has given him a whole new list of things that might cause Amy to think less of him. So proving to her and himself that he can be the guy he wants to be (to paraphrase from this Spiderman speech) would round this whole thing up nicely when he finally pops the big question. It would also neatly explain why he waited so long. Shamy didn't have an anniversary story last year so I think it would be nice if they went all out this year and end S10 with the engagement on their 7th anniversary.

- With them engaged I think S11 then would be perfect for some wedding preparation stories. Although I'm not that interested in dress shopping or whatever they did with Bernie back then. I'd rather use that to get some stories about Amy's family background cause they are such a white canvas still the writers could have a field day with that. Sheldon wants to marry the woman which should be reason enough to cobble together some stories of him meeting her family and finding out more about Amy - and hilarity ensues.

- The wedding itself would be great for S11 finale or S12 opening (or maybe they'll just throw it in somewhere in the middle of the season for shits and giggles, who knows with those writers!).

- Then in S12 I would love for all the characters, but especially Shamy and Lenny, to make plans for the future. Kids? House? Career?? etc. And then let the show end with Shamy (and Lenny) moving out of the building - with the last gag being Molaro and Prady arrive dressed up handymen about to start repairs on the elevator!

- In general: Now that everyone is comfortably set up in their relationships I'd love more stories with science/geeky focus and maybe even more group episodes with fun trips or activities.

I think that covers most of it...

Edited February 16, 2017 by April

[Jonny]

I agree with @mirs1 I think we will see Shamy children in some form of flash-forward or leap in time at the end of the series to know what happened to them. I'll admit a very large part of me would have loved to see them coping with parenthood on the show (with these two quirky people absolutely I fucking would have!) but the whole not showing kids on the show theme would kind of ruin that for me imo. I would rather go with the flash forward.

I mean for Howardette they have the perfect way of not being able to show the baby with the rasping and grating baby cry that is a homage to Howard's mother (even though a baby would never have that kind of voice). You couldn't have that for Shamy or Lenny, it just wouldn't work.

Edited February 16, 2017 by Jonny

[anicez]

Good day shamy fellows! So happy for the news! YAYY!
So two seasons give a lot of thoughts about how the writers want to do with the plots, I almost agree with all that you said but I want to add some more:

- First, I´m pretty sure that Shamy goodness is going to slow down a little for the next episodes (It´s alright, we had a lot this season) 

- With two seasons in mind, the proposal need to be this final season coinciding with their 7 anniversary, sounds perfect! (I just can´t wait!!)

- I would love a preparing wedding´s plot, knowing Sheldon and how we saw with Lenny wedding he would want to invite everyone and knowing Amy is going to be so fun with the girls. 

- And episode of a bachelors party for Sheldon, maybe the guys bring Sheldon to Las Vegas (kripke, bert, Stuart ...) and something crazy happen! I would love that.  

- Amy´s work plot, maybe she wins a important award, and I would love if they work together in a research and we see them working like madame curie and Pierre (sounds fun and lovely)

- More family discovery, for both, maybe Junior (Sheldon´s brother) and Amy´s family, and the two familys need to know each other before the wedding so! FUN!

- I'm not in a rush for babies neither, but although I would love to see Amy pregnant (with a big belly) for the last of season 12. And I'm with you that the final series has to be a Flashfoward many years later to see how it goes, (I would love it is Sheldon winning his Nobel and Amy and their childrens in the public excited *.*)

And that's it!, I'm sure I forgot something but you guys made a lot of good points so I'm agree with almost all!

Edited February 16, 2017 by anicez

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[spidergirl]

After those must seen shamy scenes list, a two more things I would like to see in next two years:

* Sheldon winning a Nobel prize. I think we could see he being more accepted by guys in gyroscope project and he having a big scientifical discovery by his own. That sightseeker hinted as he opened to his heart to Amy, his life would get better and we could see it as he and Amy are happy together, we could see him happier in his scientifical field work as well.

* More of Amy's background. Now there is no more "excuses" as writers have two more years for that, lol! And Amy being very sucessful in her job too, as she is so inteligent and hard working.And Sheldon being so proud of his vixen sucess, in private and in public.