Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 10

[Jonny]

16 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

Amy was annoyed at having to get up at 4 am to drive him through the desert to the train museum. However, it wasn't just the driving Sheldon wanted - he wanted her with him sleeping in the carabouse. And she did get to see him ( we hope ) in real life fulfilling her daydream. She was pretty willing to put her foot down to get there earlier. I think she should have chosen a fairer example.

Just a little bit of storyline recency bias. She may have really been grumbling about it (for example how early it was in the morning when they set off - which we didn't see), but the daydream might have changed all that lol. 

On the innuendo thing I like seeing Shamy being flirty or suggestive with each other and wouldn't want to see it go, just really want to see (or an indication) of some kind of pay off sometimes from it.

Edited February 17, 2017 by Jonny

[April]

1 minute ago, snapepans said:

Regarding this driver's license plot: 

I hate that the writers took this away from Sheldon. 

I mean, for years, Sheldon has many interesting traits, some people love them, some people hate them, people are different, that's OK. 

But now the writers told us Sheldon CAN drive, people who hate him now can put this in that "selfish" category,  I'm not saying I don't think he is selfish, and I indeed have mixed feelings about Sheldon sometimes, but I absolutely LOVE the trait that "he can't drive, so people have to chauffeur him around", I think this fits his character very much, not to mention we already got a very funny and classic episode evolving around this. But, just like the three knock habit(which I LOVE too by the way, and I don't care that cliche and Psychological shadow explanation AT ALL), the writers took this away as well.

I mean, I don't get it, why would the writers do this? There are NO up side in both cases,  people who hate his traits can still hate him, now with this brand new "evidence"; people who love his traits just are disappointed with all this. 

Now, I still think that Sheldon is the writers' favourite character, but I'm not gonna lie,  sometimes I feel the writers just hurt him so deeply.

I'm not sure that there's that much new about it. They already had him tell Leonard that he can drive 2 years ago because Amy taught him and his reasoning then was part that he's not a secure driver and part his rather thinly veiled selfishness (twisting this as "compromising").

The only thing new is that he's admitting to Amy that he actually got his licence.

[Maddie]

6 minutes ago, April said:

I think you're making an excellent point here, Maddie, and thank you for taking the time to write it all down!

To add another example:

We saw Sheldon referring in 10x01 to their courtship as "remarkably slow" which, as you point out, really stands out from Sheldon's comments he would make in the past that were more along the lines of "everything is happening so fast!!!" Seeing how shortly after 10x01 things changed dramatically we might be looking at something similarly here. Or at least I hope we are.

I'm really curious about the next taping now. I didn't dare to hope that this might be *the* episode, then again it's exactly the kind of thing Jim would love to tease us about! So who knows?

Anyway, as I've said plenty of times in the past days I also think that both are ready and willing to take their physical relationship further and it might just turn out that since this is new for both of them neither wanted to make the first step. Like, Sheldon waits for Amy to say something cause she took coitus off the table when they moved in together and later stuck to her guns when he tried to seduce her, and maybe Amy waits for Sheldon to say something cause she's just so used to be patient with him or whatever. Thinking about it could be hilarious when they end up being all "Why didn't you say something!?" - "Why didn't you say something!??" LOL

Yes exactly! He's always talked about how fast their relationship has moved and all of a sudden this season (where, arguably, it has moved faster than it ever has) he's saying it's extremely slow?  Oh Sheldon, you nut. 

Yeah, I'm trying to err to the side of caution with the next taping! Because even if it LOOKS like the exact type of situation where coitus could be addressed, it is extremely likely that it's not the case and it's a different kind of bed scene. However, I'm stoked no matter what for another bed scene. :D And both Jim and Mayim seem pretty stoked for it as well!

I also wanted to add that I really liked Shamy in this episode. Their date scene felt like the date of a seasoned couple who had been together for a really long time. I mean, they have. But more and more I'm seeing the maturity in their relationship, and how them being together is totally the new normal with no danger whatsoever of that changing. Even their fight felt very mature, especially the making up part. I liked how it segued so seamlessly from Amy being mad into her teasing him about having his own secrets. And I also liked how Sheldon took full responsibility of his actions and completely understood his wrongdoing and didn't try to make any excuses. This is a very different Sheldon from past seasons, where he just completely wouldn't have gotten what he did wrong.

And I totally got major feels seeing their names together on that white board. They are very much a unit now. I even like the idea of them being the "it" couple at the university, even if it means people are gossiping. I just got very strong "it's us verses the world" vibes from this episode, and I really liked it. 

[mirs1]

10 minutes ago, Jonny said:

On the innuendo thing I like seeing Shamy being flirty or suggestive with each other and wouldn't want to see it go, just really want to see (or an indication) of some kind of pay off sometimes from it.

I love those teasing moments when they are mutual and there is no "bazinga" attached, like for example the tag in the cabin episode or when Sheldon said "don't make me randy" when he arranged the surprise-brunch for Amy. The one in the promo is charming, if you take it as it is, it's clear that Sheldon is more aware of what he is doing (it also helps that Jim was about to crack during all the scene but was very good at controlling himself and that gave his acting a different intensity) and for sure in it doesn't give me at all a "desperate" Amy-vibe. Anyway, after so many scenes of this kind, I'm just annoyed that the writers find the joke funny, when Shamy best and funniest moments are to me the ones where they are on the same wavelength.

[RoRo]

Ill write more later on what I thought of the episode but 2 things stand out to me. First they had a fight and neither of them left to sleep elsewhere. Second I think there was a missed opportunity for make up makeout/sex.

just sayin

[April]

15 minutes ago, Maddie said:

Yeah, I'm trying to err to the side of caution with the next taping! Because even if it LOOKS like the exact type of situation where coitus could be addressed, it is extremely likely that it's not the case and it's a different kind of bed scene. However, I'm stoked no matter what for another bed scene. :D And both Jim and Mayim seem pretty stoked for it as well!

Indeed! The bed scenes so far have been great so either way it'll probably be a good one! <3

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I also wanted to add that I really liked Shamy in this episode. Their date scene felt like the date of a seasoned couple who had been together for a really long time. I mean, they have. But more and more I'm seeing the maturity in their relationship, and how them being together is totally the new normal with no danger whatsoever of that changing. Even their fight felt very mature, especially the making up part. I liked how it segued so seamlessly from Amy being mad into her teasing him about having his own secrets. And I also liked how Sheldon took full responsibility of his actions and completely understood his wrongdoing and didn't try to make any excuses. This is a very different Sheldon from past seasons, where he just completely wouldn't have gotten what he did wrong.

And I totally got major feels seeing their names together on that white board. They are very much a unit now. I even like the idea of them being the "it" couple at the university, even if it means people are gossiping. I just got very strong "it's us verses the world" vibes from this episode, and I really liked it. 

Those are the things I liked the most as well. Especially the "Shamy vs. the world" vibe!

14 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

I love those teasing moments when they are mutual and there is no "bazinga" attached, like for example the tag in the cabin episode or when Sheldon said "don't make me randy" when he arranged the surprise-brunch for Amy. The one in the promo is charming, if you take it as it is, it's clear that Sheldon is more aware of what he is doing (it also helps that Jim was about to crack during all the scene but was very good at controlling himself and that gave his acting a different intensity) and for sure in it doesn't give me at all a "desperate" Amy-vibe. Anyway, after so many scenes of this kind, I'm just annoyed that the writers find the joke funny, when Shamy best and funniest moments are to me the ones where they are on the same wavelength.

Well, to be fair I'm sure we'll all find these scenes hysterical once they finally penned that episode where the tension spills over or whatever. Fingers crossed we get that news soon! ;D

6 minutes ago, RoRo said:

Ill write more later on what I thought of the episode but 2 things stand out to me. First they had a fight and neither of them left to sleep elsewhere. Second I think there was a missed opportunity for make up makeout/sex.

just sayin

"There was a missed opportunity for sex" seems to be the running gag this season. lol

[Jonny]

I will say I also found the way Amy said 'Why are they naughty?' very flirty and kind of cute. Like she thought she was about to coax out of Sheldon something potentially dirty lol.

The 'please' also was kind of cute as well.

Edited February 17, 2017 by Jonny

[spidergirl]

1 hour ago, April said:

I think you're making an excellent point here, Maddie, and thank you for taking the time to write it all down!

To add another example:

We saw Sheldon referring in 10x01 to their courtship as "remarkably slow" which, as you point out, really stands out from Sheldon's comments he would make in the past that were more along the lines of "everything is happening so fast!!!" Seeing how shortly after 10x01 things changed dramatically we might be looking at something similarly here. Or at least I hope we are.

I'm really curious about the next taping now. I didn't dare to hope that this might be *the* episode, then again it's exactly the kind of thing Jim would love to tease us about! So who knows?

Anyway, as I've said plenty of times in the past days I also think that both are ready and willing to take their physical relationship further and it might just turn out that since this is new for both of them neither wanted to make the first step. Like, Sheldon waits for Amy to say something cause she took coitus off the table when they moved in together and later stuck to her guns when he tried to seduce her, and maybe Amy waits for Sheldon to say something cause she's just so used to be patient with him or whatever. Thinking about it could be hilarious when they end up being all "Why didn't you say something!?" - "Why didn't you say something!??" LOL

Agree so much with you on this! If it was the case (listen writers!) of who would take first step, it would make so much sense and it would be sound so them, as Sheldon is not an expert reading emotions and Amy sometimes might wait too much for having sure he is confortable about some things in their relationship and intimacy is yet something that might put our Shelley not so confortable for taking the lead.

BTW,  I have to thank you and @Maddie for your posts as they helped my heart get more peaceful about the possible tension in shamy sexual life at moment. And if we could see a moment between them as the tension was too much and they said at same time they would want to make love, oh my friends, I would squee like a mad here, I must confess , lol!

Later I will rewatch the episode a few more times and enjoy again the things I loved and understand even better what I was a bit hesitant about. I will be very anxious for next taping. Because that majim's photo , just wow! It could mean the usual shamy goodness as their bedroom scenes are usual great ones but it also  could mean something more revolutionary in shamy's nest! Oh boy, this show kills me of feelings! <3

 

[kimbee73]

5 hours ago, April said:

 

I need a HD screenshot of the whole board! lol

We already knew Sheldon shares his Netflix password with Amy so it's cute to see that referenced. I wonder what other passwords? hehehe

Here you go, I hope this helps.

 

[Capt. Hilts]

The diagram is pretty great.

[2L344]

Last night's episode was fine, not spectacular but not bad either. I enjoyed the opening better than most of you I suspect-- I enjoy the simple no-drama antics of the gang, and Raj playing that game with everyone chiming in (and Penny offering a wager) was fun.

The Shamy scenes had me pondering things more than anything else.  How did Shamy's sex life come up at Caltech that had Sheldon sharing details? Was he bragging (like his drunk call to Hawking when he bragged about kissing girls now) or was he disappointed in the once-a-year thing, or did someone ask and he merely answered without giving any thought to it?

And just how did Sheldon get a license without owning a car to take the driving test?? He cant rent one without a license, DMV wont provide him with one, and I assume he didnt borrow one from any of the usual suspects since it was a secret. Dumb question to ponder lol, but I did.

The episode also for me was a reminder that as much progress that Shamy have made they still stumble. In this case Sheldon continues to struggle with social norms, like exercising descretion and respecting boundaries. He did a good job of reflecting and offering a sincere apology.

And in Amy's case I saw her justifiable anger transform into brooding pout mode that had her retreating to the bedroom. She knows how much Sheldon struggles with these things (just had an episode with him using an emotion  detector that ends with him disappointed in himself). To me (and I know a lot of folks will disagree because Amy was justified in being pissed) Amy couldve taken a deep breath when she got home and talked with Sheldon. Instead she did her old school "storm off because you hurt me" impression. To her credit she bounced back fast enough once Sheldon offered his apology.

All in all it was an okay episode that had its moments for me.

Edited February 17, 2017 by 2L344

[spidergirl]

1 hour ago, kimbee73 said:

Here you go, I hope this helps.

 

Thank you so much for that! Now I can see it pretty clear

[mirs1]

1 hour ago, spidergirl said:

Thank you so much for that! Now I can see it pretty clear

what is the last word in the "strangers" list? I can read weather, traffic, but I can't figure out the last one for the life of me, LOL!

[Jonny]

2 hours ago, mirs1 said:

what is the last word in the "strangers" list? I can read weather, traffic, but I can't figure out the last one for the life of me, LOL!

Looks like 'Smells'? lol

This is Sheldon we are talking about here, I could totally see him having a conversation with a stranger like 'What is your favorite smell?', or 'Did you know that the Corpse Flower native to western Sumatra produces a smell similar to a rotting corpse and has the most pungent odor of all flowers?' 

lol

Edit: Assuming that actually says 'Smells', can't quite make it out.

Edited February 17, 2017 by Jonny

[Maddie]

Yep it's smells lol!

Sheldon and Amy: bathroom schedule, genitals, love life, passwords 

Leonard, Penny, Bernie, Howard, Raj, Hawking: hopes, fears, scientific breakthroughs, family issues

Bert, Kripke, Stuart: movies, cafeteria food, school policy

Strangers: weather, traffic, smells 

 

[Stephen Hawking]

10 hours ago, April said:

Spreading around details about their private life at their working place is absolutely not okay.

I heard that in Raj's voice.

[spidergirl]

37 minutes ago, Maddie said:

Yep it's smells lol!

Sheldon and Amy: bathroom schedule, genitals, love life, passwords 

Leonard, Penny, Bernie, Howard, Raj, Hawking: hopes, fears, scientific breakthroughs, family issues

Bert, Kripke, Stuart: movies, cafeteria food, school policy

Strangers: weather, traffic, smells 

 

Passwords really mean a great trustfull level, as I am thinking things like e-mail and back accounts acess online.

Genitals mean Amy Farrah Fowler is the only woman with that restricted acess, so a faithfull boyfriend.

Bathroom schedule means stepping into most intimate level of him

Love life means Amy is the love of Sheldon Cooper's life.

Could they be more married for life?  <3

And imo  in the zone of Sheldon's secret thoughts is two more things : naughty thoughts about his girlfriend he has been holding for a chance he would have ( we already knew he would, lol) and a certain ring for propose Amy to share his life with . He is not ready for that, probably the driving licence secret saved him of talking about it yet.

Going to rewatching the episode. Glorious free friday nights!

Edited February 17, 2017 by spidergirl

[Stephen Hawking]

10 hours ago, April said:

Sheldon has his licence - will we see him drive any time soon???

We've seen him drive.

[April]

2 hours ago, 2L344 said:

And just how did Sheldon get a license without owning a car to take the driving test?? He cant rent one without a license, DMV wont provide him with one, and I assume he didnt borrow one from any of the usual suspects since it was a secret. Dumb question to ponder lol, but I did.

From what I've read on the internet you can basically rent one from driving schools - usually with a few extra hours with a teacher to get familiar with the car for the test.

[2L344]

44 minutes ago, April said:

From what I've read on the internet you can basically rent one from driving schools - usually with a few extra hours with a teacher to get familiar with the car for the test.

You can take driving lessons from companies and yes they provide their cars during the lessons, but they dont rent them out because of the liability (their instructor cant be with the student during the test at the department of motor vehicles, a test proctor sits with the student driver.

Just one of those silly things an ex-cop would find curious and no one else lol

 

Edited February 17, 2017 by 2L344

[Anita]

7 minutes ago, 2L344 said:

You can take driving lessons from companies and yes they provide their cars during the lessons, but they dont rent them out because of the liability (their instructor cant be with the student during the test at the department of motor vehicles, a test proctor sits with the student driver.

Just one of those silly things an ex-cop would find curious and no one else lol

 

Here , you go to the test with de driving school's car, your driving school's teacher goes with you and the examiner in the car during the test. 

[spidergirl]

1 minute ago, Anita said:

Here , you go to the test with de driving school's car, your driving school's teacher goes with you and the examiner in the car during the test. 

Same here.

[mirs1]

4 minutes ago, Anita said:

Here , you go to the test with de driving school's car, your driving school's teacher goes with you and the examiner in the car during the test. 

Same here, which is  the only reason why I got my driving license despite my poor driving skills, my instructor flirted with the examiner the whole time and she didn't pay me any attention, LOL!

[April]

11 minutes ago, 2L344 said:

You can take driving lessons from companies and yes they provide their cars during the lessons, but they dont rent them out because of the liability (their instructor cant be with the student during the test at the department of motor vehicles, a test proctor sits with the student driver.

Just one of those silly things an ex-cop would find curious and no one else lol

A quick google search brings up driving schools with offers like this:

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Driving Test Car Rental - Area 2 (DT02) - - $120+

[We will provide you with one of our driver education vehicles and an instructor to accompany you to your driving test. One of our friendly instructors will pick you up at school, work or home one hour before your driving test appointment and give you behind-the-wheel instruction on your way to the DMV.  The included training before your test will help you review the rules of the road, and it will also give you the opportunity to address and improve your driving skills. Area 2: DMV offices of Culver City, Glendale, Hollywood, Inglewood, Santa Monica, and West Covina]

Sounds easy enough. Also pretty affordable.

[spidergirl]

16 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

Same here, which is  the only reason why I got my driving license despite my poor driving skills, my instructor flirted with the examiner the whole time and she didn't pay me any attention, LOL!

Lucky you, lol! I have failed the driving exam three times and in all of them the examiner was so rigid that messed my nerves and for consequence my driving skills always got messed during the exam.I could drive not in a great way but  I could drive out of examination. Meanwhile  I have not found the courage to try again.

Edited February 17, 2017 by spidergirl