Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 10

[April]

1 hour ago, Anita said:

I'm a little dejected with the part where they are faced with scientific progress vs risking  their relationship and sheldon votes science. I know I often overthink this little details and i'am not able to put them in a broder context. Toughts?

Without having seen it (and maybe @RJ1013 can elaborate more here?) my take is that at this point they have the hypothesis that fighting helps their progress so Sheldon picks the answer that would surely make Amy mad and it gets the desired result of her insulting him and getting some good ideas out. It's not the first time Sheldon would goad Amy into such a spat without actually risking their relationship - see the tag of 10x04 for comparison.

The next we see of them is outlining their rules which restricts the fights to certain areas (...and probably terrible "yo momma!" insults. LOL) so I think there's an effort to avoid serious relationship problems and just go with intellectually charged banter.

[mirs1]

11 minutes ago, koops said:

I'm really hoping the season finale is big on this project too. I would love it for it to be the episode where they get to a breakthrough of some sort. I would also love it if they got so wrapped up in it that nobody hears or sees them anymore and they start worrying. Especially after the way they've been not so nice with Sheldon lately. I also do wonder whether they might get a bit stir crazy working together and living together 24/7. But I'm sure they will work it out in their own unique way as always. They've literally ironed out every single kink in their relationship this season, there's no way they're not going to make it through whatever challenge comes their way now.

I was thinking about that too...I can see an episode where the grounds rules that they have established (which are so Shamy, so I'm really enjoying them, I mean "We are a team but this is a competition", that captures them so well), the pressure of being on the verge of a breakthrough and obviously the fact being together 24/7 might be too much and there might be a major fight. I'm not worried if that happens, too; it would lead to another beautiful moment among them where they face together their problems and overcome them.

Edited March 9, 2017 by mirs1

[RJ1013]

1 hour ago, Anita said:

I'm a little dejected with the part where they are faced with scientific progress vs risking  their relationship and sheldon votes science. I know I often overthink this little details and i'am not able to put them in a broder context. Toughts?

I think given the choice between science and X, Sheldon will always knee-jerk respond science. I don't think he gave it any real thought, though, and he didn't even get to finish what he was saying before Amy called him a bonehead. If he had thought about it, I think he would've said they could manage both. Science is kind of their thing, after all.

@April might also be right that he said it to make her mad and keep the creative ideas flowing because it was right after they realized the connection between their arguing and scientific breakthrough.

[2L344]

7 minutes ago, April said:

Without having seen it (and maybe @RJ1013 can elaborate more here?) my take is that at this point they have the hypothesis that fighting helps their progress so Sheldon picks the answer that would surely make Amy mad and it gets the desired result of her insulting him and getting some good ideas out. It's not the first time Sheldon would goad Amy into such a spat without actually risking their relationship - see the tag of 10x04 for comparison.

The next we see of them is outlining their rules which restricts the fights to certain areas (...and probably terrible "yo momma!" insults. LOL) so I think there's an effort to avoid serious relationship problems and just go with intellectually charged banter.

These two knuckleheads both love human experimentation and enjoy the whole cause/effect part of toying with human behavior (especially Amy in Herb Garden and the episode where she and Sheldon used Lenny in figuring out puzzles and compared results with monkeys).

Im betting theres a part of them that relishes the banter that this particular professional union will bring. The fact that they can outline boundaries shows they are separating the work from personal stuff and as long as they have thick enough skins they should be able to be productive without offending each other.

Like others here,  Im pretty excited about this venture!

[koops]

3 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

I was thinking about that too...I can see an episode where the grounds rules that they have established (which are so Shamy, so I'm really enjoying them, I mean "We are a team but this is a competition", that captures them so well), the pressure of being on the verge of a breakthrough and obviously the fact being together 24/7 might be too much and there might be a major fight. I'm not worried if that happens, too; it would lead to another beautiful moment among them where they face together their problems and overcome them.

Yeah, I can see that. It's tough, especially given how they're both little spitfires when it comes to their work. I mean, I wouldn't even put it past the writers to end it on yet another cliffhanger. But I doubt it would be anything serious, they're not going to recycle the same plot from S8.

But what I love about it is that they both maintain their individualities in their relationship and their work is so important to them that they're not willing to compromise it. Remember when Amy was all "First of all, I'm a scientist", back in S7? Even when Sheldon asked her if she wouldn't choose to be the first woman on Mars over their relationship, Amy didn't deny that she would consider it too. Their relationship is a wonderful thing, but I think it's very dangerous when a relationship becomes a thing that encompasses and overshadows everything else, and I like that their passion for science hasn't taken a backseat in their relationship. But, ultimately, they don't need to choose because they are just so well matched that they're going to find a way to slot things together in whatever form they come.

[wowbagger]

I am glad that Sheldon chose science, and I would hope that Amy would too. I mean, she sort of already has, yes? Didn't she need to be lured back into continuing cohabitation #ForScience?

Also, I don't see it as one over the other. Their love of science is so fundamental to who they are. It's such a huge part of what drew them to each other, and it's such a big part of their relationship already. I can't really root for people in a relationship unless they make sense for me as individuals. ShAmy's personhood and their individuality, for me, is a massive part of why I enjoy them together. And science and their arrogance and their intellectual snobbery are such huge, huge parts of that. I don't know, I guess I would see a 'me or science?' ultimatum as almost a 'me or our baby?'. Unthinkable.

and the ShAmy already have a baby! And Sheldon is already trying to win it away from Mommy! Sigh. Oh this season.

Edited March 9, 2017 by wowbagger

[spidergirl]

12 minutes ago, wowbagger said:

I am glad that Sheldon chose science, and I would hope that Amy would too. I mean, she sort of already has, yes? Didn't she need to be lured back into continuing cohabitation #ForScience?

Also, I don't see it as one over the other. Their love of science is so fundamental to who they are. It's such a huge part of what drew them to each other, and it's such a big part of their relationship already. I can't really root for people on a relationship unless they make sense for me as individuals. ShAmy's personhood and their individuality, for me, is a huge part of why I enjoy them together. And science and their arrogance and their intellectual snobbery are such huge, huge parts of that. I don't know, I guess I would see a 'me or science?' ultimatum as almost a 'me or our baby?'. Unthinkable.

and the ShAmy already have a baby! And Sheldon is already trying to win it away from Mommy! Sigh. Oh this season.

So true! So them! *sigh happily *

This season has been really precious! And there are 5 tapings to go yet. I wonder if this science arc would get its peak in season finnale. I hope @Jonny thought about the proposal might fit in this science stuff but if it wouldn't, surely it might lead to something shamy memorable. Oh well, I promise I am going to stop repeating myself, lol! When I am happy about my otp  I may be a bit too much chatty!

 

Edited March 9, 2017 by spidergirl

[serena_1995]

I agree and I'm glad Sheldon chose science too ! That's who he is . And honestly that is who Amy is too. Wouldn't you expect Amy to do the same? So why shouldn't Sheldon ?

Besides, that's the fun part for me. They discover that arguing helps with cognition. My favorite lol moment from the taping report was  when "Amy calls Sheldon a bone head and it leads to Sheldon having ideas " or something. So Sheldon is not wrong. Arguing made him fix some problems and it also helped Amy have an idea too. 

Edited March 9, 2017 by serena_1995

[2L344]

11 minutes ago, serena_1995 said:

I agree and I'm glad Sheldon chose science too ! That's who he is . And honestly that is who Amy is too. Wouldn't you expect Amy to do the same? So why shouldn't Sheldon ?

Besides, that's the fun part for me. They discover that arguing helps with cognition. My favorite lol moment from the taping report was  when "Amy calls Sheldon a bone head and it leads to Sheldon having ideas " or something. So Sheldon is not wrong. Arguing made him fix some problems and it also helped Amy have an idea too. 

It reminds me of the episode where Sheldon wore the smelly skull device on his head and asked Amy and the gang to maintain a level of shrillness for him in order for him to be productive. That theme is reintroduced in this new episode and Im betting Sheldon had no problem at all with that premise!

[April]

Yeah, what I love about this is that evidently both work better with this. So it's not just Amy having to put up with one of Sheldon's crazy ideas or whatever. It's for her benefit, too.

I'm also sure that her hesitations mostly stem from her usually being the one to keep the peace in the relationship by being diplomatic or even having a flight reaction. Sometimes it takes a bit to get that inner fire burning -  again, the 10x04 tag being the most excellent example here. But with those rules in place I'm sure they'll find a good working rhythm -  maybe a bit unusual but if it works more power to them!

What I would find hilarious is if the gang overheard one of theirs working sessions not knowing about the new arrangements and maybe worry about them breaking up again which could lead to some funny misunderstandings. (It's probably a bit too obvious of a plot though but who knows...  lol)

[mirs1]

Here' Mayim usual buzzkill about today episode, LOL! I love her to bits but, seriously, she shouldn't be allowed to caption those reminders of the episodes, LOL! Just kidding of course...But, thanks goodness Jim knows better!!

Edited March 9, 2017 by mirs1

[spidergirl]

8 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

Here' Mayim usual buzzkill about today episode, LOL! I love her to bits but, seriously, she shouldn't be allowed to caption those reminders of the episodes, LOL! Just kidding of course...But, thanks goodness Jim knows better!!

Maybe it is her way to make the viewer getting very curious about the episode. Drama doesn’t sell as much as sex but it has its own merit, hehe!

Btw I just love how Mayim cares to promove shamy. She  makes the effort to highlight something that surely will make the viewers dont miss a thing!

[mirs1]

Ok, guy, something weird might be happening in the episode taped this week, it's in Briana Kuoco's (Kaley's sister) IG stories, I don't know how to show you the link. Anyway she posted some videos about dance rehearsals (country music, people with cowboys hats, stuff like that) in a set that looked like a bar and at some point Jim/Sheldon (I can't tell since he is not in costume) enters the room, sits at a table and scream something like a cowboy. It might be a rehearsal for a TBBT episode,  Briana has already choreographed for a Chuck Lorre's show...so, maybe that's the case this week and there will be a dance piece in the show involving Sheldon, I guess a nightmare, because it's not something quite usual for him, LOL!

Edited March 9, 2017 by mirs1

[spidergirl]

11 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

Ok, guy, something weird might be happening in the episode taped this week, it's in Briana Kuoco's (Kaley's sister) IG stories, I don't know how to show you the link. Anyway she posted some videos about dance rehearsals (country music, people with cowboys hats, stuff like that) in a set that looked like a bar and at some point Jim/Sheldon (I can't tell since he is not in costume) enters the room, sits at a table and scream something like a cowboy. It might be a rehearsal for a TBBT episode,  Briana has already choreographed for a Chuck Lorre show...so, maybe that's the case this week and there will be a dance piece in the show involving Sheldon, I guess a nightmare, because it's not something quite usual for him, LOL!

Oh, that's sound promising, lol!! It might be at least a nightmare for the bar costumers, especially if Sheldon starts singing in his Texas accent, lol!

Btw, if you press on Briana profile pic of her IG, you have access to the two videos. Hope it can help

Edited March 9, 2017 by spidergirl

[vonmar]

15 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

Ok, guy, something weird might be happening in the episode taped this week, it's in Briana Kuoco's (Kaley's sister) IG stories, I don't know how to show you the link. Anyway she posted some videos about dance rehearsals (country music, people with cowboys hats, stuff like that) in a set that looked like a bar and at some point Jim/Sheldon (I can't tell since he is not in costume) enters the room, sits at a table and scream something like a cowboy. It might be a rehearsal for a TBBT episode,  Briana has already choreographed for a Chuck Lorre show...so, maybe that's the case this week and there will be a dance piece in the show involving Sheldon, I guess a nightmare, because it's not something quite usual for him, LOL!

Yeah, it does look like a country/western bar scene rehearsal.  You can hear Mark Cendrowski calling out instructions.  Jim is not in costume, but is carrying Sheldon's work bag.  He yells "yehaw".

Edited March 9, 2017 by vonmar

[mirs1]

9 minutes ago, spidergirl said:

Oh, that's sound promising, lol!! It might be at least a nightmare for the bar costumers, especially if Sheldon starts singing in his Texas accent, lol!

Btw, if you press on Briana profile pic of her IG, you have access the two videos. Hope it can help

She has even tagged the Official TBBT IG page, I haven't noticed that before, it's really something for TBBT! This sounds like fun!

7 minutes ago, vonmar said:

Yeah, it does look like a country bar scene rehearsal.  You can hear Mark Cendrowski calling out instructions.  Jim is not in costume, but is carrying Sheldon's work bag.  He yells "yehaw".

Is it "normal" to dance like that in Country bars? Sorry if that's a stupid question, I'm not very familiar with Country...To me it sounded something Sheldon wouldn't do unless dreaming, LOL!

Also, he sits at the table with persons I can't recognize...can you?

Edited March 9, 2017 by mirs1

[vonmar]

5 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

She has even tagged the Official TBBT IG page, I haven't noticed that before, it's really something for TBBT! This sounds like fun!

Is it "normal" to dance like that in Country bars? Sorry if that's a stupid question, I'm not very familiar with Country...To me it sounded something Sheldon wouldn't do unless dreaming, LOL!

Also, he sits at the table with persons I can't recognize...can you?

Yes, this is called "line dancing".  A lot of country/western dancing is very synchronized with intricate steps, not just in group dancing such as in Brianna's IG Story but also in couples dancing.

[spidergirl]

15 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

She has even tagged the Official TBBT IG page, I haven't noticed that before, it's really something for TBBT! This sounds like fun!

Is it "normal" to dance like that in Country bars? Sorry if that's a stupid question, I'm not very familiar with Country...To me it sounded something Sheldon wouldn't do unless dreaming, LOL!

Also, he sits at the table with persons I can't recognize...can you?

I have been rewatching over the vids and can't recognize anyone either! Weird thing...who could they be?!

The plot thickens! 

Edited March 10, 2017 by spidergirl

[shamyarmy2016]

1 HOUR TIL THE NEW EPISODE 1 HOUR TIL NEW EPISODE

[2L344]

37 minutes ago, vonmar said:

Yes, this is called "line dancing".  A lot of country/western dancing is very synchronized with intricate steps, not just in group dancing such as in Brianna's IG Story but also in couples dancing.

Lol my wife dragged me to line dance in the late 80s, love country music but hated line dancing!

[RoRo]

2 hours ago, mirs1 said:

Ok, guy, something weird might be happening in the episode taped this week, it's in Briana Kuoco's (Kaley's sister) IG stories, I don't know how to show you the link. Anyway she posted some videos about dance rehearsals (country music, people with cowboys hats, stuff like that) in a set that looked like a bar and at some point Jim/Sheldon (I can't tell since he is not in costume) enters the room, sits at a table and scream something like a cowboy. It might be a rehearsal for a TBBT episode,  Briana has already choreographed for a Chuck Lorre's show...so, maybe that's the case this week and there will be a dance piece in the show involving Sheldon, I guess a nightmare, because it's not something quite usual for him, LOL!

on jimparsons_source on instagram stories video of people doing western line dancing and JP yelling yeehaw

[BigBangEnthusiast]

11 hours ago, mirs1 said:

Love the sound of this episode! Funny that we nailed that Sheldon would have wanted his name to go first in papers and Amy being the usual badass and not willing to concede it. I just hope that the notebook she tossed out of the window was not the 3.000 $ Alienware she bought him, LOL! I love that they are physically working together on the board making calculation, I had imagined a less close collaboration and how the bantering helps them progressing their work. Most of it, I love the 

We are a team but this is a competition

really my motto for Shamy for now on...they are scientists to the core, that's for sure!

Not sure if this has been answered yet, but the notebook Amy threw out the window was a book Sheldon wrote in not a computer notebook.

I was at the taping also. RJ did a great job capturing the episode in her TR.

[xjax]

45 minutes ago, BigBangEnthusiast said:

Not sure if this has been answered yet, but the notebook Amy threw out the window was a book Sheldon wrote in not a computer notebook.

I was at the taping also. RJ did a great job capturing the episode in her TR.

Any BTS you can share with us ?

[BigBangEnthusiast]

13 minutes ago, xjax said:

Any BTS you can share with us ?

Mayim danced and clapped along to one of the songs the DJ played between takes. 

[mirs1]

Kind of mixed feelings for today episode; I liked very much Amy in it, she was supportive of Sheldon, but didn't put up with his nonsense (he had some WTF moments, but I come to this later...). I liked her reaction to Lenny's snarks in the stairwell scene, she was on Sheldon's side and waited for them to be alone to ask him about his real feelings to Raj moving in, since she already knew Sheldon didn't like it at all. Also, her remembering Sheldon's room with fondness was moving, she perfectly understood Sheldon's reaction to the whole situation and in a way she shared that feeling. I laughed so hard to the joke about the fake snakes Sheldon got her as an anniversary present. That was funny, and also Sheldon thought it was, LOL! She also realized Sheldon was being insensitive towards Raj in 4A living room and put an end to the whole thing taking him home. The bedroom scene is my favourite part of the episode; after Beverly said those mean things about everybody, she was calmly sleeping, as all that psychology gibber-gabber meant nothing to her, and was very understanding with Sheldon's doubts. She perfectly understood that his love for preparedness and the necessity for a plan B in every situation has nothing to do with her personally, it's just what he needs to function in life. I wished she would have appreciated more the fact she is the "dessert" in the case of an apocalypse, but the way Mayim delivered the line was so funny! Finally, probably the Batman statue is my favourite thing ever, please let it stay!

What I didn't like was that I'm sensing there is too much meanness in the show lately. Lenny were mean to Sheldon for no reason (the drugs joke were just unfunny), Sheldon was mean to Raj (I know not on purpose and he also got him a nice present, but the guy knows better at this point...), Beverly was her usual self and judged everybody's relationship without actually knowing them, Howard was mean to Raj...I don't know, I feel the need of a nice group episode where the gang focuses on what brings them together rather than on what set them apart.

Plus, I see now why Mayim captioned her reminder of the episode as "Everybody has commitment issues", that was Beverly's opinion on Amy as well, just because she reacted to her diagnose on Sheldon...Sorry Mayim, I take all back!