Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 10

[spidergirl]

19 minutes ago, Desdemona said:

That´s why we are all here, because we love these two!

Watching these two and seeing them exchanging all these sweet gestures and words and seeing them living together is all I ever hoped for, since the day Sheldon reciprocated Amy´s feelings with his kiss.

I know their engagement and wedding will be my death. (I guess after the proposal I won´t make it to the wedding.

Course you will make it! Shamy wedding could not happen without all fans celebrating! Gosh just the mention of the possibility of we watch it on screen make me melt here

Anyway, I am so curious about what could be read in table reading today! *ponders*

Edited March 22, 2017 by spidergirl

[Desdemona]

15 minutes ago, spidergirl said:

Course you will make it! Shamy wedding could not happen without all fans celebrating! Gosh just the mention of the possibility of we watch it on screen make me melt here

Anyway, I am so curious about what could be read in table reading today! *ponders*

Me too! Hopefully something nice and tender for every ship. (A little bit of Shamy here, a little bit of Lenny there, and in the middle a bit of Howardette)

 

18 minutes ago, Stephen Hawking said:

Except Sheldon, who is possibly a robot.  

If Sheldon´s story has proven us something, then that Sheldon is not a robot at all, but a person, with feelings, wishes and needs.

He can get as mad and sad as everyone else and as happy and in love as everyone else.

He just doesn´t show it as often as others do.

[spidergirl]

14 minutes ago, Desdemona said:

Me too! Hopefully something nice and tender for every ship. (A little bit of Shamy here, a little bit of Lenny there, and in the middle a bit of Howardette)

If Sheldon´s story has proven us something, then that Sheldon is not a robot at all, but a person, with feelings, wishes and needs.

He can get as mad and sad as everyone else and as happy and in love as everyone else.

He just doesn´t show it as often as others do.

What is a bold, 1000 times yes! The 10 th season Sheldon is not anymore 3th season Sheldon. He only is as I make a season 3 rerun!

[joyceraye]

1 hour ago, Desdemona said:

My favorite episode of RaShel!

I loved Martha, because she was intelligent, kind and interested in comics!

I felt bad for her when Sheldon left her alone in his bedroom, but I couldn´t help myself to laugh about it as well.

 

Sheldon - such a gentleman !

 

[Stephen Hawking]

29 minutes ago, Desdemona said:

If Sheldon´s story has proven us something, then that Sheldon is not a robot at all, but a person, with feelings, wishes and needs.

He can get as mad and sad as everyone else and as happy and in love as everyone else.

He just doesn't show it as often as others do.

It was a joke.  

 

11 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

Sheldon - such a gentleman !

Must've taken a lot of self-restraint, on Sheldon's part.

Martha was  

[Desdemona]

9 minutes ago, Stephen Hawking said:

It was a joke.  

 

I know but you have touched a soft spot. 

[Anglophile79]

Since we're talking about how far Sheldon has come over the years, I think it's a perfect time to ask. We all know how much more self-aware he seems to be now in his emotions and the emotions of others. What I can't help wondering is if that's the reason he has held off proposing. How much of it do you think is intentional and/or connected to his thoughts on marriage? I feel like he has truly made such an effort this year in how he relates to Amy and to the gang, even if they (the gang) don't seem to notice or appreciate his efforts. I think he might be trying to improve some of his shortcomings before he proposes, but I'm not sure how conscious he is of it. It would be awesome if the writers addressed this when he actually does propose, but I don't really think that will happen. Was curious on everyone's thoughts?

[mirs1]

9 hours ago, Anglophile79 said:

Since we're talking about how far Sheldon has come over the years, I think it's a perfect time to ask. We all know how much more self-aware he seems to be now in his emotions and the emotions of others. What I can't help wondering is if that's the reason he has held off proposing. How much of it do you think is intentional and/or connected to his thoughts on marriage? I feel like he has truly made such an effort this year in how he relates to Amy and to the gang, even if they (the gang) don't seem to notice or appreciate his efforts. I think he might be trying to improve some of his shortcomings before he proposes, but I'm not sure how conscious he is of it. It would be awesome if the writers addressed this when he actually does propose, but I don't really think that will happen. Was curious on everyone's thoughts?

I think it's true the writers are taking Sheldon on a journey to make him ready to propose and to get married. The way he tried to make the cohabitation experiment work and his willing to compromise in many situations with Amy (like the bathroom schedule, the brunch) show me that he really wants to take their relationship to the next level. I don't think the writers will explicitly acknowledge this fact, and TBH I don't really want that, I like that each and every episode this season (with very few exceptions) speaks for itself and shows how Amy and Sheldon have progressed and improved their communication.

[Jonny]

Makes sense from say a real life perspective that a boyfriend and girlfriend need to know if they are comfortable being able to live together and everything that encompasses before getting married. But overall I'm with Amy I don't know why it hasn't happened yet, the writers haven't explored it or why not yet but I could speculate or make guesses.

I don't see how much longer they can drag this out, but it's kind of canon that everything has been done really slow during their relationship (though the living arrangements and other things this season have showed like a rapid speed increase compared to the past) but they are kind of stretching it now.

My money is still thinking it happens this season, if not then we will have a whole summer to debate and speculate why it hasn't been brought up lol. Until then just seeing what unfolds, zero worries lol.

[April]

17 hours ago, Anglophile79 said:

Since we're talking about how far Sheldon has come over the years, I think it's a perfect time to ask. We all know how much more self-aware he seems to be now in his emotions and the emotions of others. What I can't help wondering is if that's the reason he has held off proposing. How much of it do you think is intentional and/or connected to his thoughts on marriage? I feel like he has truly made such an effort this year in how he relates to Amy and to the gang, even if they (the gang) don't seem to notice or appreciate his efforts. I think he might be trying to improve some of his shortcomings before he proposes, but I'm not sure how conscious he is of it. It would be awesome if the writers addressed this when he actually does propose, but I don't really think that will happen. Was curious on everyone's thoughts?

That has been my theory for a while now as well but I'm not sure if the writers will actually address this. I think it would be perfect for a plot now towards the end of the season. Sheldon's quest of self-improvement has been such a strong theme in many episodes that it would make sense and you could turn it into something really heartfelt. I mean, we all know how much Sheldon worries that Amy might think less of him so him trying to become proper husband material before proposing fits.

Then again the writers have dropped the ball on so many great story opportunities over the years so who knows if this will go anywhere any time soon??

[Jonny]

If Sheldon has this level of state he wants to achieve/or personal target he wants to attain before he proposes or say he has some concerns or fears then it will have to be brought up in some way and that seems tricky. Like many others I am not sure I like the idea of perhaps Amy bringing it up why it hasn't happened yet even though I could fully understand why she might. Would probably involve some drama at first even if by the end it gets resolving in a fantastic way.

I like more the idea that he goes to someone for advice or someone not Amy perhaps brings the issue up which might explore why he is holding off at the moment. Something that could be done in a really beautiful and heartfelt way.

I know we raised the idea of perhaps someone outside the Lenny/Amy dynamic perhaps raising it or maybe even being there for advice should Sheldon seek it and I like that idea a lot. Raj would not be a good option considering how he mocks their relationship though he can at times say things from the heart, so that leaves Howardette. I kind of like this idea of Sheldon perhaps hanging out with Bernadette in some way, they talk about future's and perhaps the subject gets brought up about his own future, though it would have to be delicately done of course.

What about if Shamy go over to Howardette's and in some storyline way Howard ends up doing something with Amy and Sheldon ends up staying with Bernadette (or vice versa), could maybe explore the proposal issue from two perspectives perhaps. Then Sheldon comes to a decision and the following episode he goes ahead with it?

At the end of the day it all comes down the writers and how much they want to explore it, they may just have Sheldon one episode actually propose without any backstory prior to it.

Edited March 23, 2017 by Jonny

[Soopysue]

https://instagram.com/p/BR_T47zDz8b/
A fab pic to keep us going !!


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[April]

@Jonny I always like the idea of Howardette and Shamy in any constellation so I'd be on board!

But I think Raj could be an option here, too. Not necessarily someone to get advice from, mind you. Like, let's say Raj ends up hanging out with Sheldon somehow and since Raj is in that "try to figure out what he wants in life" phase he could be saying something that spurs Sheldon into action, or he could just point blank ask him why he hasn't proposed, yet.

Overall though I would rather have Sheldon figure out himself that it's the right time to propose instead of having someone to tell him that this is what he should do.

[amethyst]

We know that when Amy ended things with Sheldon Penny told him that Amy thought he was a" bad boyfriend ". He himself thought Amy would go on to marry " someone better than him ".Is he now thinking that if he isn't perfect husband material there's a chance Amy will leave him again and so is reluctant to propose? I really hope not because Amy told him she " loves him exactly the way he is " and I hate to think that Sheldon has any doubts about that.

Or maybe because they are in such a great place right now Sheldon doesn't want to change things or " rock the boat " in case things start to go wrong?

 

[Sah]

Why not Lenny? They have always helped Sheldon in the past. He and Penny are close and through one of their conversations Penny may be able to "go down that rabbit hole" again. 

Leonard:
All right, we're down the rabbit hole. What are you doing?

Sheldon:
Well, first of all, I'm quite fond of Amy.

Penny:
Then what's the problem?

 

I guess Howardette could be fun also...my bet is on Lenny though.

[April]

10 minutes ago, Soopysue said:

https://instagram.com/p/BR_T47zDz8b/
A fab pic to keep us going !!
 

Aww yes, bless Mayim! So then looks like they'll be hanging out with Bert this week. In 4A no less! Interesting... (Or maybe the location is just to hang out and go through the script...)

Since the forum currently won't properly show IG pics:

(Jim's face lol)

Edited March 23, 2017 by April

[anicez]

I think that all this advance in Sheldon in all this season is going to culminate in the proposal, it´s realistic and very organic, they are now ready for the next step (for much that I would loved that the proposal had happened before, I think was wrong, now it´s the perfect time, they know each other, they love living together and they love the other "exactly how they are" *sigh*
He know he is ready and I hope we can see a conversation (maybe with Penny) about it.
 
I like the idea of Sheldon/Bernadette and Howard/Amy plot and explore the two diferents points of view about marriage life, the most part is because I want to see these two (H&A) hanging on together again hehe (so funny the Neil Diamond car)

[spidergirl]

20 hours ago, Anglophile79 said:

Since we're talking about how far Sheldon has come over the years, I think it's a perfect time to ask. We all know how much more self-aware he seems to be now in his emotions and the emotions of others. What I can't help wondering is if that's the reason he has held off proposing. How much of it do you think is intentional and/or connected to his thoughts on marriage? I feel like he has truly made such an effort this year in how he relates to Amy and to the gang, even if they (the gang) don't seem to notice or appreciate his efforts. I think he might be trying to improve some of his shortcomings before he proposes, but I'm not sure how conscious he is of it. It would be awesome if the writers addressed this when he actually does propose, but I don't really think that will happen. Was curious on everyone's thoughts?

I think Sheldon is conscious about his shortcomings's improvement and that's  probably why he had not proposed to Amy yet. Since their reunion that Sheldon had been making efforts to became a good husband material. The breaking up made him to think about why  he failed to be a good boyfriend. Actually I think he got it not only as a  failure of his boyfriend role to Amy but also he recognized he was not overall a good person in his interactions with others. After he reunited we saw , even slowly , he making efforts to repair his mistakes. One example of this was when he apologized to Emily. 

I believe most of Sheldon's failures in his social interactions were related with he acted rationally for his own pleasure. I mean at moment  Sheldon realized he loved Amy more than he could love anyone else in his life that he could not only think about himself and he had to manage the nice emotions she made him to feel and it was pointless to repress them, as it made him feeling miserable. He realized he could be happy and it was not a failure about his rational side but a gift from his efforts to be happy and also not making the others feel bad about his actions. He has been improving but the journey is far to be finished yet. As a Sheldon fan since pilot, I am very proudy of his efforts. Especially for he had worked most of them by himself, which is quite impressive.

About the subject of Sheldon being aware of his and others emotions as the reason for he had not proposed yet be addressed to the show, imho it would not be necessary. Who had followed Sheldon's journey since he met Amy, especially since he and Amy reunited , the reasons  are  all over in their time shared as a couple. It is even more noticed since they started to live together  and got more bonded intimately as couple. For me as shipper, it would be perfect as Sheldon proposed Amy with a nice, heartfelt and very "them"gesture as we could feel they are very happy for having each other and for sharing their lives as it was one. They love each other for who they are. There are no need imo many words for they get engaged and hopefully oneday on screen husband and wife.

Sheldon will propose when he is ready and imo he is. Writers only need to put it in a script and make it real on screen

46 minutes ago, Soopysue said:

https://instagram.com/p/BR_T47zDz8b/
A fab pic to keep us going !!


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Fab indeed! Thank you so much for sharing!

Edit: Is Bert there?

 

Edited March 23, 2017 by spidergirl

[anicez]

16 minutes ago, spidergirl said:

Is Bert there?

Yes, Bert and wine, curious combination haha
I wonder what is going on there, I can´t imagine what is doing Bert in 4A, in Shamy´s apartment can be but in 4B? is weird, Leonard doesn´t know him, right?

I know Raj does, he went with him and Howard to the rocks symposium (or whatever was) and Penny went to his apartament for the "party" but still is not like a closer friend to invite.

[April]

1 hour ago, anicez said:

Yes, Bert and wine, curious combination haha
I wonder what is going on there, I can´t imagine what is doing Bert in 4A, in Shamy´s apartment can be but in 4B? is weird, Leonard doesn´t know him, right?

I know Raj does, he went with him and Howard to the rocks symposium (or whatever was) and Penny went to his apartament for the "party" but still is not like a closer friend to invite.

He knows him from working at Caltech - he was at the table in the cafeteria when Bert came to them talking about his prize in 10x09. But that wasn't really much of an interaction. So yeah, still weird to have Bert in 4A.

Edited March 23, 2017 by April

[Capt. Hilts]

1 hour ago, Sah said:

Why not Lenny? They have always helped Sheldon in the past. He and Penny are close and through one of their conversations Penny may be able to "go down that rabbit hole" again. 

Leonard:
All right, we're down the rabbit hole. What are you doing?

Sheldon:
Well, first of all, I'm quite fond of Amy.

Penny:
Then what's the problem?

 

Totally. 

This is a job for Lenny.

[mirs1]

Thank you @Soopysue and @April! It was such a messy day at work, nothing better to recover than a Majim pic, with the bonus of knowing that Bert is the next episode! Finally!!! Interesting they are in 4A and "partying", no less. Assuming that is part of an actual scene and not just the actors hanging out and\or studying their part in the main set, are the four of them alone? What are they celebrating? Why Bert is there? Oh, I hate when I have a lot of questions and so few answers! But it's also so funny, LOL!

[kbp]

18 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

Thank you @Soopysue and @April! It was such a messy day at work, nothing better to recover than a Majim pic, with the bonus of knowing that Bert is the next episode! Finally!!! Interesting they are in 4A and "partying", no less. Assuming that is part of an actual scene and not just the actors hanging out and\or studying their part in the main set, are the four of them alone? What are they celebrating? Why Bert is there? Oh, I hate when I have a lot of questions and so few answers! But it's also so funny, LOL!

is today jim birthday or tomorrow

[mirs1]

6 minutes ago, kbp said:

is today jim birthday or tomorrow

Tomorrow, on March 24th...

[joyceraye]

When she was stroking his shoulder at the prospect of having the ring, Sheldon told Amy to cool her jets since he'd given her his virginity. Did he mean she'd already got enough of him to be going on with, or was she meant to take it as evidence of commitment ? She's been cooling those jets for over a year now. I'd go for something of both. My guess would be the prevailing assumption that he's practising to be a good husband is  fair. Who knows with Sheldon though ? He's probably also afraid to change what he has.  He might even be seeing marriage as the first step to divorce. He's obviously not asked Amy what she thinks because she said she doesn't know if he even thinks about marriage.