Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 10

[wowbagger]

1 minute ago, April said:

Well, for all we know the first half of S11 will be Shamy galore with its stories like it's been during the past two years and the proposal would fit into that nicely. But dear loard, I hope it's not "Sheldon proposes on Amy's birthday" or something... ughhhh

Oh God. Oh God, I hadn't even thought of that. And then maybe they get married on her birthday, so you know - coitus once a year, tee hee! The horror. The horror.

[April]

4 minutes ago, wowbagger said:

Oh God. Oh God, I hadn't even thought of that. And then maybe they get married on her birthday, so you know - coitus once a year, tee hee! The horror. The horror.

First half of S11: The big Shamy arc of how Sheldon finally gears up to pop the question with little hints all through the episodes culminating in his proposal in 11x11!!

(Nothing much will happen in the second half of S11 while the writers struggle to give the rest of the cast something to do.)

First half of S12: The big Shamy arc of how Sheldon and Amy prepare for their wedding that'll take place in 12x11!!

(Nothing much will happen in the second half of S12 while the writers struggle to tie up everything for the grand finale.)

The end.

lmao

I'm mostly kidding and hope that this isn't coming true. But looking at the past two seasons... there seems to be a pattern forming...?

[spidergirl]

Imo  that's enough of Amy's birthday for be motive for a plotline  about shamy have sex again or for they  take a step foward to a new level of their relationship. Let them do those things in other dates or simply in normal days like any day else of their lives. Writers please surprise us with something cute and quirky.

[anicez]

Please not a proposal in her birthday, no way!! Besides the next 11x11 it´s going to be so cool, it´s 1st Halley Birthday and Amy´s one, so that episode is writing by himself.

I bet for an aniversary proposal, 10x24 is their 7 anniversary, I bet that he is waiting this months for that day, because, now they are living together and he knows he loves her and wants to be with her forever so what more he need?. That´s my bet, he is going to fix the 8x24 disaster!.  

No Shamy on the cliffhanger, my bet is that is going to involves Raj (with a possible back to India or a good job offer in other country) and possibily something with Lenny because only Raj is not in enough.

[April]

2 minutes ago, anicez said:

Please not a proposal in her birthday, no way!! Besides the next 11x11 it´s going to be so cool, it´s 1st Halley Birthday and Amy´s one, so that episode is writing by himself.

I bet for an aniversary proposal, 10x24 is their 7 anniversary, I bet that he is waiting this months for that day, because, now they are living together and he knows he loves her and wants to be with her forever so what more he need?. That´s my bet, he is going to fix the 8x24 disaster!.  

That certainly would be my ideal scenario as well - a nice closure for this 2 year roller-coaster these two put us on!

[bfm]

Maybe he thinks things are so good the way they are and is afraid that would be ruined. He had been burned two times before when he wanted to propose. In the first one he was completely shocked, Amy was at a very different page from him and had very different feelings about their relationship and he didn't see this coming. He knows he has difficulties in understanding others' feelings. I think it would be IC for him to be afraid because of that. IMO, we need to have him talk about his feelings about proposing. Perhaps with Amy herself, perhaps with one of his friends (I'd say Leonard and/or Penny but sometimes they throw some nice surprises. Maybe it will be Raj that actually gets him talking about it and helps him with his fears?).

[Capt. Hilts]

Such is the adventure of following this show.

Sheldon is a 'piece of work' as my mother would say.

[Anita]

2 minutes ago, bfm said:

Maybe he thinks things are so good the way they are and is afraid that would be ruined. He had been burned two times before when he wanted to propose. In the first one he was completely shocked, Amy was at a very different page from him and had very different feelings about their relationship and he didn't see this coming. He knows he has difficulties in understanding others' feelings. I think it would be IC for him to be afraid because of that. IMO, we need to have him talk about his feelings about proposing. Perhaps with Amy herself, perhaps with one of his friends (I'd say Leonard and/or Penny but sometimes they throw some nice surprises. Maybe it will be Raj that actually gets him talking about it and helps him with his fears?).

Maybe the failed proposal, when he saw amy kissing Dave, marked him deeper that we thought and he has a underlying fear. Or maybe the idea of  marriage in the first place was the first step for him to coitus and cohabitation and now is no longer neccesary.

[anicez]

6 minutes ago, bfm said:

Maybe he thinks things are so good the way they are and is afraid that would be ruined. He had been burned two times before when he wanted to propose. In the first one he was completely shocked, Amy was at a very different page from him and had very different feelings about their relationship and he didn't see this coming. He knows he has difficulties in understanding others' feelings. I think it would be IC for him to be afraid because of that. IMO, we need to have him talk about his feelings about proposing. Perhaps with Amy herself, perhaps with one of his friends (I'd say Leonard and/or Penny but sometimes they throw some nice surprises. Maybe it will be Raj that actually gets him talking about it and helps him with his fears?).

I would love to know how he feels, I think will be a very beautiful conversation and a good way to show the others that he really grown a lot, I think that the ideal for that it´s Leonard, they know each other for long time, they shared a lot of things and maybe it´s the last step in their friendship.

[koops]

For someone who used to write long-winded rants about the show in S6 and 7 and then again in S9, I have to say... I'm at an incredible level of zen that by this time last year I never thought I'd reach. I've had everything I've ever wanted for Shamy now, so I am waiting for literally nothing and it's so liberating! Honestly, even if they sunk the entire ship in the season finale I'd still merrily skip away going "la la la" and pretending the show ended with 10x23. I'm that content. I can just play S10 over and over and over. I think the only thing I kind of still wish for is to stop with the coitus deadline nonsense, but even that is such a minor thing at this point that whatever comes or doesn't come is fine with me. *happy sigh*

ETA: I'm not someone who particularly cares about a proposal or a marriage (although, of course, I'm not against it), but if they have to go there, I think it would be quite nice to show how the S8 finale debacle and subsequent break affected Sheldon and his intentions to propose. Like I said, I felt like the show always goes a long way to make Sheldon realize how much his actions hurt others but don't grant him the same courtesy when it's the other way around. It would be nice to explore that and for Amy to realize how much power she has to hurt him too. I am quite happy forgetting S9 ever happened though, so if they never want to mention it again, that's fine with me. 

Edited April 5, 2017 by koops

[spidergirl]

From @luminous full taping report of last taping on DT:

"(...)Sheldon plot:
in 4B, Raj and Sheldon are baking croissants. Amy comes in and ask why. Sheldon explains that he’s trying to find some new challenge. Raj says the croissants are very good, it makes Sheldon unhappy ("physicist, lover, baker, there’s nothing I can’t do"). Amy tries to suggest another type of challenge, he says that there’s no way they’re going to tickle fight.
...
At Howard &Bernadette's, Sheldon came to try to do something new. Juggling. He tries first with one ball but he’s afraid to catch a juggling elbow.
...
pretaped : Sheldon is doing one wheel cycle in 4B when Amy comes back, Howard gave him one to try.
live: Sheldon stops trying, Amy points him out that each time things become difficult, he stops. «*you call me quitter?!*»
Then Sheldon leaves to go to the bedroom. Amy : «*maybe the cycle worn him, ...he worn me*»
...
S is reading on the bed, A comes and says she’s sorry to have said he was a quitter. S answer that it’s ok, he quitted that idea. Then says that he saw an article saying that the average time to get a Noble price was around 40, he feels running out of time. Nice talk between them where Amy notice that if he doesn’t win a noble price but has a life full of friends and love, it worth it. He agrees. «*you’re cute*», then goes out because he has a lot to do (I don’t remember what he’s saying)
...
Tag - pretaped
Sheldon is walking on stilts and he’s happy because he finally did it. He wakes up, it was a dream. (...)

I really like how the bed scene sounds. And Sheldon calls Amy a cutie again.

Edited April 5, 2017 by spidergirl

[anicez]

Aww their bed scenes are getting more and more cutes!!! 

*I´M SO HAPPY* 

[spidergirl]

4 minutes ago, anicez said:

Aww their bed scenes are getting more and more cutes!!! 

*I´M SO HAPPY* 

I just love they dont sleep with pendent issues. Always sleeping peacefully with each other

 

[vonmar]

They really made Jim earn his paycheck this week...juggling, unicycle AND stilts!  

[April]

24 minutes ago, spidergirl said:

"(...)Sheldon plot:
in 4B, Raj and Sheldon are baking croissants. Amy comes in and ask why. Sheldon explains that he’s trying to find some new challenge. Raj says the croissants are very good, it makes Sheldon unhappy ("physicist, lover, baker, there’s nothing I can’t do"). Amy tries to suggest another type of challenge, he says that there’s no way they’re going to tickle fight.
...

LOL Did they read my reaction post to the last episode???

24 minutes ago, spidergirl said:

pretaped : Sheldon is doing one wheel cycle in 4B when Amy comes back, Howard gave him one to try.

I'm laughing so hard that they finally got Jim to do that unicycle thing. I remember an interview where he was like "hell no" lmao

24 minutes ago, spidergirl said:

S is reading on the bed, A comes and says she’s sorry to have said he was a quitter. S answer that it’s ok, he quitted that idea. Then says that he saw an article saying that the average time to get a Noble price was around 40, he feels running out of time. Nice talk between them where Amy notice that if he doesn’t win a noble price but has a life full of friends and love, it worth it. He agrees. «*you’re cute*», then goes out because he has a lot to do (I don’t remember what he’s saying)
...

Awww... <3

The average age for the Nobel price is bullshit though: https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/lists/laureates_ages/all_ages.html

You have another 10-30 years, Shelly!

[Jonny]

The baking with Raj and the Shamy scenes sound great! Circus stuff made me cringe but will have to see how it translates on the screen.

Sheldon realizing he is not getting younger might spur him on to pop the question sooner rather than later.

[koops]

17 minutes ago, April said:

LOL Did they read my reaction post to the last episode???

I'm laughing so hard that they finally got Jim to do that unicycle thing. I remember an interview where he was like "hell no" lmao

Awww... <3

The average age for the Nobel price is bullshit though: https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/lists/laureates_ages/all_ages.html

You have another 10-30 years, Shelly!

Yeah, wow, the Nobel prize age is the most inaccurate thing ever said on this show after the right brain/left brain crap from S5 (still looking at you sideways, Mayim!). But I like the sound of everything else very much! Small scenes but cute and heartwarming. 

 

ETA: although upon re-reading I would rather they had Amy say that you can have a satisfying and successful career even without a Nobel and that prizes are not the real aim in science than the usual "love life vs career" cliches. It's not Nobel or failure, come on. 

ETA2: Although I wouldn't mind it that were foreshadowing to a joint Cooper-Fowler major award later on in the show  

Edited April 5, 2017 by koops

[April]

40 minutes ago, koops said:

ETA: I'm not someone who particularly cares about a proposal or a marriage (although, of course, I'm not against it), but if they have to go there, I think it would be quite nice to show how the S8 finale debacle and subsequent break affected Sheldon and his intentions to propose. Like I said, I felt like the show always goes a long way to make Sheldon realize how much his actions hurt others but don't grant him the same courtesy when it's the other way around. It would be nice to explore that and for Amy to realize how much power she has to hurt him too. I am quite happy forgetting S9 ever happened though, so if they never want to mention it again, that's fine with me. 

Yes and no. I thought S9 was dwelling enough on how hurt Sheldon was. Not only did we see it as the audience (with Jim Parsons giving us his best sad puppy impression) but also Amy was reminded how much she hurt Sheldon several times. First he wouldn't get back together with her because he was too hurt, then his Meemaw hated her for hurting her little moonpie, and eventually Sheldon again talked about how much he was hurt (but it's all good now). Like, I'm fine with what we got here. It's more than enough!

[mirs1]

4 minutes ago, April said:

I'm laughing so hard that they finally got Jim to do that unicycle thing. I remember an interview where he was like "hell no" lmao

I remember that interview!!! It was ages ago, though; the writers really don't throw any idea away, sooner or later it comes at some use! There's hope for the Flag Convention after all!! BTW, is that enough room in 4B to ride a unicycle in the living room??

5 minutes ago, April said:

The average age for the Nobel price is bullshit though: https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/lists/laureates_ages/all_ages.html

You have another 10-30 years, Shelly!

I was thinking the same thing. I didn't make any research, but, you know, I don't remember many 40-something Nobel prize winners, LOL! He has still time! Actually, the most important award in Mathematics, the Fields Medal, is explicitly devoted to mathematicians which are less than 40 years old; if Sheldon wants to win that, he has to hurry up indeed: the award is held every 4 years, the next edition is in 2018 and Sheldon should be 38 years old by then.

[spidergirl]

4 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

I remember that interview!!! It was ages ago, though; the writers really don't throw any idea away, sooner or later it comes at some use! There's hope for the Flag Convention after all!! BTW, is that enough room in 4B to ride a unicycle in the living room??

I was thinking the same thing. I didn't make any research, but, you know, I don't remember many 40-something Nobel prize winners, LOL! He has still time! Actually, the most important award in Mathematics, the Fields Medal, is explicitly devoted to mathematicians which are less than 40 years old; if Sheldon wants to win that, he has to hurry up indeed: the award is held every 4 years, the next edition is in 2018 and Sheldon should be 38 years old by then.

Indeed! Sheldon has plenty of time yet to win a Nobel or others scientific prizes. Take your time as things in Scientifical world take long to happen, Shelley. 

I wonder if this worry of him about age would lead him in next episodes to figure out he might be ready to get married with Amy as they know each other for seven years  already ,live together and undoubtely they know they love each other unconditionally. Sheldon wanted propose once as he had kept a ring, he failed another as he saw Amy being kissed by Dave so as they say the third is the charm? I hope so . Can not wait for that!!

[koops]

7 minutes ago, April said:

Yes and no. I thought S9 was dwelling enough on how hurt Sheldon was. Not only did we see it as the audience (with Jim Parsons giving us his best sad puppy impression) but also Amy was reminded how much she hurt Sheldon several times. First he wouldn't get back together with her because he was too hurt, then his Meemaw hated her for hurting her little moonpie, and eventually Sheldon again talked about how much he was hurt (but it's all good now). Like, I'm fine with what we got here. It's more than enough!

I personally didn't find the way they addressed that very satisfying in the sense that we never got to see how finding those things out affected Amy. When Meemaw said that, for example, it was cut immediately to Sheldon barging in and saving the day. When Sheldon wouldn't get back with her, Amy was obviously upset but we can't really dissociate how much of that turmoil was due to the rejection versus the realization of how much he hurt and her role in it. And they never talked about it again. Amy never found out he was going to propose to her when he saw her with Dave. I felt they explored Sheldon's side fine but I don't feel like they did as much with Amy.

Plus, there's the practical issue that they wrote in that ring two years ago and clearly stated he was thinking of proposing. And then almost forgot about it and even have Amy complain about not knowing how he feels about marriage like either she's forgotten he was planning to propose or she's wondering why he has a ring and hasn't popped the question yet. I find that the most believable reason at this stage why he has had a ring for years but hasn't proposed is that there are still some lingering feelings there of fear (as per Escape Hatch) that of course are totally irrational and unfounded but that he needs to finally throw out once and for all. Or at the very least that he feels the need to take things slow because of what happened. Again, though, I'm happy to pretend S9 never happened so I am not advocating for this to be brought up again, if they don't want to. And I won't be disappointed if they don't. But if they were to take that angle, I would be on board with it. 

[Capt. Hilts]

I think I need to draw a diagram....

[Anita]

1 hour ago, spidergirl said:

Nice talk between them where Amy notice that if he doesn’t win a noble price but has a life full of friends and love, it worth it. He agrees. «*you’re cute*», then goes out because he has a lot to do (I don’t remember what he’s saying)

He agrees. Old sheldon would have a stroke with amy's line.Hell, no so long ago, in geology elevation amy said something like that and he was rude with her. He is growing up so fast

[serena_1995]

40 minutes ago, koops said:

 

 

ETA: although upon re-reading I would rather they had Amy say that you can have a satisfying and successful career even without a Nobel and that prizes are not the real aim in science than the usual "love life vs career" cliches. It's not Nobel or failure, come on. 

ETA2: Although I wouldn't mind it that were foreshadowing to a joint Cooper-Fowler major award later on in the show  

 

Yes that part about Amy saying  "you still have a love life/friends " made me go...ugh. Would have been better to say awards aren't the real aim of science, that Sheldon is still an intelligent person and maybe tell Sheldon that he has had some successes in his career too(which he has !) . Although this feels like rehash of the Bert 's grant episode 

 

Edited April 5, 2017 by serena_1995

[Capt. Hilts]

You receive Nobels in your 50s + for work you usually did in your 30s.