Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 10

[camelliayao]

3 minutes ago, serena_1995 said:

 

 

I think I'm more worried they will have Amy cheat on Sheldon offscreen.....like Leonard went away to North Sea, and cheated on Penny . Hope I'm wrong. 

Well on one hand, I agree with you. The writers do love Sheldon muce more so they'll probably choose to destroy Amy's character rather than Sheldon's. However, with Ramona appearing in the finale out of nowhere, it's just hard for me to believe the writers will not do anything dramatic about it. And what's more dramatic than Sheldon Cooper sleeping with another girl?

[serena_1995]

12 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

If that's the case, we won't know for two years and hopefully the show will be over by then, LOL!

But since the writers have turned the whole "Sheldon trusts Amy " And "Sheldon fears failing Amy" and "Sheldon tells another secret to Amy that no one knows" into a full fledged sob story in the last 3 years,  IMO Amy cheating would go against everything they have written and would reverse the trust Sheldon has for her.

On the other hand,  how many plots do you honestly have where "Amy fears failing Sheldon" or "Amy thinks she is not good enough for Sheldon " ?? Very few or none compared to the reverse. 

It seems to me that Amy is more likely to cheat.

[koops]

Sheldon is the show's golden hen, and they have been hell bent for years with regards to his sexuality being almost the most important feature of his character. There's no way they'll have him cheat. 

I am worried they might play that card with Amy, though. Although I also find that unlikely. If she didn't sleep with anyone while they were broken up, I doubt they will have her cheat now that they're happy together. And with Amy being always so loyal and devoted. I am not discounting the possibility though, just because of who these writers are, but I'm skeptical.

All in all, though, there's also great potential for this to be a great plot. With Amy making strides in her career and Shamy really missing each other and the reunion being out of this world sweet. 

[camelliayao]

4 minutes ago, shamyyellow said:

I've heard this theory before and honestly don't get it. It just sounds like a lot of drama based on a fear of the unknown. I'm not going to pretend to know for sure, but Mayim seems like the last cast member to put her job in jeopardy for more money. Asking for more? Sure. Letting other people fight for her to get more? Sure. Trying for equal pay? Totally. Actually putting her job on the line because she refuses to be paid $450K an episode while everybody else (minus Melissa) gets $900K? I just don't see it.

Another flaw in that theory is thinking that TBBT won't be effected without her and that Sheldon could just fall for someone else. It would and he wouldn't (realistically). Sheldon and Amy are a huge draw for the majority of viewers. If there was even a question that Mayim wouldn't be back due to contract negotiations, I think they would give her what she wanted before throwing around empty threats. If this is between a few hundred thousand dollars and potentially ruining the last two seasons (and a prequel) they've already signed on for? No contest, she would get her money. But I honestly just don't see any of it.

I've heard some things about last night's taping and it sounds very sweet and special. Along with this finale, it all just sounds like a buildup for a surprise nobody saw coming... like an engagement or pregnancy or Raj hooking up with Ramona. It also sounds like a way to get Amy to return for the finale and by the S11 premiere, her entire fellowship will be skipped over. It's a drastic change and plot twist without any dedication. I know everybody is flipping out, but looking at every other time this has happened leads me to believe it will be funny and not that big of a deal.

I like your way of thinking and I sincerely hope you're right. Just one question though, if Ramona's storyline does not involve Sheldon and Amy's fellowship will be over by S11 premiere, why set up this Amy fellowship storyline in the first place? Also this way there won't be any cliffhangers in the finale...

7 minutes ago, serena_1995 said:

IMO Amy cheating would go against everything they have written and would reverse the trust Sheldon has for her.

Then they probably won't let Amy cheat. Because like you said, it'll destroy everything they have written for Shamy. And because of the popularity Shamy receives these days, there's no way they'll do that. 

Also, no offense but you sound like Amy already cheated.

[Desdemona]

43 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

It's temporary, but it can be a relatively long time, some fellowships last one or two years. For sure the whole hiatus, IMO...

I hope the writers won't be that sadist and separate them for more than the usual three months during  the summer break? I need my Shamy fix consisting of hugs, kisses and living together. They can't take away our Amy from us? 

Who knows maybe Amy returns in Episode 11.01 because she missed Sheldon? Or Sheldon visits her in Princeton? I could imagine them having a very passionate encounter with heated "Missed you so much" sex.

[koops]

I'm confused as to why the title is the Gyroscopically Collapse. Does that mean the guys' project fails somehow? 

The Ramona storyline will obviously involve Sheldon but, again, it could be work related or it could be Sheldon being clueless about what she's up to answer perhaps the cliffhanger is Amy overhears something and misunderstands and we are left with the summer waiting to find out how they will fix it. Or, hey, for all we know, Ramona might get so crazy that Sheldon runs away to Princeton himself to escape her. 

[vonmar]

3 minutes ago, koops said:

I'm confused as to why the title is the Gyroscopically Collapse. Does that mean the guys' project fails somehow? 

The Ramona storyline will obviously involve Sheldon but, again, it could be work related or it could be Sheldon being clueless about what she's up to answer perhaps the cliffhanger is Amy overhears something and misunderstands and we are left with the summer waiting to find out how they will fix it. Or, hey, for all we know, Ramona might get so crazy that Sheldon runs away to Princeton himself to escape her. 

The taping info said that the project was taken away from S/L/H.

[wowbagger]

1 minute ago, koops said:

I'm confused as to why the title is the Gyroscopically Collapse. Does that mean the guys' project fails somehow? 

The Ramona storyline will obviously involve Sheldon but, again, it could be work related or it could be Sheldon being clueless about what she's up to answer perhaps the cliffhanger is Amy overhears something and misunderstands and we are left with the summer waiting to find out how they will fix it. Or, hey, for all we know, Ramona might get so crazy that Sheldon runs away to Princeton himself to escape her. 

maybe Ramona is behind the collapse! 'hello, my name is Ramona Lastname. You refused to give me credit when I was Science's Handmaiden. Prepare to die. Professionally.'

[mirs1]

4 minutes ago, koops said:

I'm confused as to why the title is the Gyroscopically Collapse. Does that mean the guys' project fails somehow? 

The Ramona storyline will obviously involve Sheldon but, again, it could be work related or it could be Sheldon being clueless about what she's up to answer perhaps the cliffhanger is Amy overhears something and misunderstands and we are left with the summer waiting to find out how they will fix it. Or, hey, for all we know, Ramona might get so crazy that Sheldon runs away to Princeton himself to escape her. 

Yes, in this episode,  Shamy apart, the guys are taken the gyroscope project away (no idea why) and Raj moves out of 4A and moves  in an apartment up Bert's garage.

Edited April 19, 2017 by mirs1

[shamyyellow]

2 minutes ago, camelliayao said:

I like your way of thinking and I sincerely hope you're right. Just one question though, if Ramona's storyline does not involve Sheldon and Amy's fellowship will be over by S11 premiere, why set up this Amy fellowship storyline in the first place? Also this way there won't be any cliffhangers in the finale...

Like I said, this is a way to do something drastic without the dedication. We still get the news of her opportunity, Sheldon dealing with it, growth for his character, Amy's career advancing, sweet moments and goodbyes, drama, intrigue, and something silly for the gang to fixate on before the final moments of the finale reveal something we didn't think of because we were being distracted.

When the show returns, we will see Shamy reuniting and the time apart will give both of them a different perspective on life without the other. Specifically, it may give Sheldon a different perspective on the physical aspect. You'd think it wouldn't matter to him if she was near or far, but he's gotten used to her sleeping next to him and being there. It'll be interesting to see them explore those things.

It's not like they haven't sent Sheldon (train), Leonard (sea), and Howard (space) away for the summer for no other reason than a sappy/exciting finale and an interesting place to pick up when the show returns. It's really no different than what they do most seasons.

[1979]

I was at the taping last night and thought the Sheldon/Amy stuff was sweet. He freaked out about her leaving at first but came around. Nothing was mentioned about Ramona. 

[camelliayao]

4 minutes ago, koops said:

I'm confused as to why the title is the Gyroscopically Collapse. Does that mean the guys' project fails somehow? 

The Ramona storyline will obviously involve Sheldon but, again, it could be work related or it could be Sheldon being clueless about what she's up to answer perhaps the cliffhanger is Amy overhears something and misunderstands and we are left with the summer waiting to find out how they will fix it. Or, hey, for all we know, Ramona might get so crazy that Sheldon runs away to Princeton himself to escape her. 

But if it's only work related, they can have any guest star, no need to bring back Ramona, I think?

[April]

10 minutes ago, shamyyellow said:

I've heard this theory before and honestly don't get it. It just sounds like a lot of drama based on a fear of the unknown. I'm not going to pretend to know for sure, but Mayim seems like the last cast member to put her job in jeopardy for more money. Asking for more? Sure. Letting other people fight for her to get more? Sure. Trying for equal pay? Totally. Actually putting her job on the line because she refuses to be paid $450K an episode while everybody else (minus Melissa) gets $900K? I just don't see it.

Another flaw in that theory is thinking that TBBT won't be effected without her and that Sheldon could just fall for someone else. It would and he wouldn't (realistically). Sheldon and Amy are a huge draw for the majority of viewers. If there was even a question that Mayim wouldn't be back due to contract negotiations, I think they would give her what she wanted before throwing around empty threats. If this is between a few hundred thousand dollars and potentially ruining the last two seasons (and a prequel) they've already signed on for? No contest, she would get her money. But I honestly just don't see any of it.

I've heard some things about last night's taping and it sounds very sweet and special. Along with this finale, it all just sounds like a buildup for a surprise nobody saw coming... like an engagement or pregnancy or Raj hooking up with Ramona. It also sounds like a way to get Amy to return for the finale and by the S11 premiere, her entire fellowship will be skipped over. It's a drastic change and plot twist without any dedication. I know everybody is flipping out, but looking at every other time this has happened leads me to believe it will be funny and not that big of a deal.

I totally agree with you on all accounts. The idea that this is a power play to force Mayim to sign is a bit... far fetched to say the least.

Likewise the cheating plot is not something I see with them. Neither of them is the type - not even Amy. Heck, we can be lucky if we get a few skype calls out of Princeton - I don't think we'll see enough of her time there to establish a reasonable scenario where that happens. I can believe Ramona maybe making a move on Sheldon but I don't see him reciprocating. So the only kind of drama I see here are some contrived misunderstandings to provide some angst. But in the end it'll all be fine.

[Jedichic98]

8 minutes ago, 1979 said:

I was at the taping last night and thought the Sheldon/Amy stuff was sweet. He freaked out about her leaving at first but came around. Nothing was mentioned about Ramona. 

Bless you kind angelic creature. 

[mirs1]

18 minutes ago, 1979 said:

I was at the taping last night and thought the Sheldon/Amy stuff was sweet. He freaked out about her leaving at first but came around. Nothing was mentioned about Ramona. 

Thank you for your info! Did they mention how long she will be at Princeton? For what project?

[snapepans]

4 minutes ago, April said:

I totally agree with you on all accounts. The idea that this is a power play to force Mayim to sign is a bit... far fetched to say the least.

Likewise the cheating plot is not something I see with them. Neither of them is the type - not even Amy. Heck, we can be lucky if we get a few skype calls out of Princeton - I don't think we'll see enough of her time there to establish a reasonable scenario where that happens. I can believe Ramona maybe making a move on Sheldon but I don't see him reciprocating. So the only kind of drama I see here are some contrived misunderstandings to provide some angst. But in the end it'll all be fine.

I agree with you, neither of them is the type.

And I even think Ramona is back only because the work related problem, nothing romantic between she and Sheldon.

Just the writers want to create a relationship drama for Shamy, so they bring back "a woman from Sheldon's past", to the casual viewers, Ramona sounds like Sheldon's ex or something, but we all know that's not true. And this is the drama part.

But I'm worried about Amy. I fear the writers would pull a "Leonard's boat kiss" plot on Amy.

OK, I admit, maybe I have 824 PTSD.

[koops]

OH! I wonder if they took the project from the guys because Sheldon took that cold medicine and blabbed in the Recollection Dissipation. 

I have to say that Raj moving out of 4A at the same time as Amy leaving does smell of Sheldon moving back to 4A. Hopefully if it happens it will just be temporary or to show how much more he prefers living with Amy now. 

[Capt. Hilts]

I don't think it's about cheating by either.  At most, some confusion created by Ramona. She was a very funny character.

And, count me among those who think Sheldon will go back to his old room.

Here's hoping Amy will be sleeping in a green lantern t-shirt while in New Jersey.

Edited April 19, 2017 by Capt. Hilts

[wowbagger]

6 minutes ago, koops said:

OH! I wonder if they took the project from the guys because Sheldon took that cold medicine and blabbed in the Recollection Dissipation. 

I have to say that Raj moving out of 4A at the same time as Amy leaving does smell of Sheldon moving back to 4A. Hopefully if it happens it will just be temporary or to show how much more he prefers living with Amy now. 

Ha, I said in the discussion thread that I wondered if Ramona had been in the bar while Sheldon was blabbing. That would be awesome, if we had a flashback, and one cowboy hat slooooooowly lifts, and underneath is Ramona. Wearing sunglasses indoors for some reason.

Ugh, yes, I do wonder if Sheldon is moving back to 4A. Well, let's hope it'll be interspersed with Skype sessions with Amy, and either a quick return for Amy, Sheldon deciding that he'd rather live by himself than crawl back into the womb or whatever, and/or Lenny moving out...

[spidergirl]

1 hour ago, mirs1 said:

Shamy spoilers....

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Spoilers-episode 23-the gyroscopic collapse-Amy gets offered a fellowship to Princeton but sheldon does not want her to go but by the end is willing to let her go.Sheldon is packing Amy's car and says don't fall in love with any other scientists.

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And discuss...

My apologies for posting this again but earlier I felt something was off in my post.

Anyway I dont like much how shamy spoilers sound, especially after reading Sheldon 's words about his fear of Amy could fall in love with any other scientist...

I just hope writers won't go to the reverse side of that idea and putting Sheldon in a situation it might seem he felt something for Ramona. I know and you know he would not but writers sometimes go to the weirdest way.

I am here for my ship whatever could happen to them. They are meant to be and they will eventually face any trouble might come in their way. Their relationship is stronger than ever and I trust them.  I could be feel happier today but surely my optimism is strong and in end shamy will show why their love is one of the best things tbbt came up after all these years of show.

Stay positive, my friends. What is true and strong never could be put down by anyone.

34 minutes ago, 1979 said:

I was at the taping last night and thought the Sheldon/Amy stuff was sweet. He freaked out about her leaving at first but came around. Nothing was mentioned about Ramona. 

Thanks  so much for that! Welcome aboard

[April]

3 minutes ago, snapepans said:

I agree with you, neither of them is the type.

And I even think Ramona is back only because the work related problem, nothing romantic between she and Sheldon.

Just the writers want to create a relationship drama for Shamy, so they bring back "a woman from Sheldon's past", to the casual viewers, Ramona sounds like Sheldon's ex or something, but we all know that's not true. And this is the drama part.

Yeah, Ramona* is probably the closest thing Sheldon has to an "ex" so I think that's the reason she was brought on to cause exactly that kind of drama.

(*OMG you guys wouldn't believe how often I write Romana having to correct the name later. ughhh damn you, DW!!)

3 minutes ago, snapepans said:

But I'm worried about Amy. I fear the writers would pull a "Leonard's boat kiss" plot on Amy.

OK, I admit, maybe I have 824 PTSD.

The thing with "Leonard's boat kiss" is that they at least took some time to establish a party atmosphere on the boat making the whole scenario of a drunken kiss plausible enough. But I highly doubt we'll get Amy partying at Princeton or whatever. Not to mention that Amy and Leonard have a different track record in terms of dating and such making Amy even less likely to stray. It would be one hell of a contrived scenario they'd try to sell - so much so that it's really not worth it. Sheldon seeing Amy with Dave while they were broken up is more than enough angst in that regard.

[vonmar]

7 minutes ago, koops said:

OH! I wonder if they took the project from the guys because Sheldon took that cold medicine and blabbed in the Recollection Dissipation. 

I have to say that Raj moving out of 4A at the same time as Amy leaving does smell of Sheldon moving back to 4A. Hopefully if it happens it will just be temporary or to show how much more he prefers living with Amy now. 

In the Season 10 thread @wowbagger speculated that Ramona was at the bar and shows up to blackmail Sheldon.  

This got me thinking.  Ramona is a PhD herself now, not some starry-eyed grad student.  What if she is simply looking to get even with Sheldon for throwing her out when she tried to get him to share credit.  People can hold grudges for a very long time.

[serena_1995]

1 hour ago, Jonny said:

Feel free to crucify me, say I am being silly, caught up in the heat of the moment, lost my head, perhaps overreacting and guilty of wearing my heart on my sleeve for this but I don't fucking like this idea. Not one bit.

 

Tbh, I have already seen everything good this season wrt to Shamy so I really don't care what happens anymore.

I remember when I said I'm not very happy about the 2 year renewal . And that the writers will just resort to manufactured drama to prolong things.

 I think this makes it seem like I was right. 

I just find this plot direction to be pretty boring. That's all. 

I've already seen this with Lenny with North Sea and when Howard went to space leaving Bernie.

If its going to be resolved in the beginning of season 11 or a few episodes in, then what's the point ?

 and If we are actually not going to see any of Amy's work plots in Princeton ,  then it's really not about Amy's career,  but just a cheap ploy to use Amy again,  as a plot device for Sheldon's growth and his issues  ....."Sheldon learns to live alone; Sheldon learns to appreciate Amy , now that she is gone"....and what not. 

I feel like I saw enough of that , during the break up in season 9.

Major Yawn . 

Edited April 19, 2017 by serena_1995

[wowbagger]

5 minutes ago, vonmar said:

In the Season 10 thread @wowbagger speculated that Ramona was at the bar and shows up to blackmail Sheldon.  

This got me thinking.  Ramona is a PhD herself now, not some starry-eyed grad student.  What if she is simply looking to get even with Sheldon for throwing her out when she tried to get him to share credit.  People can hold grudges for a very long time.

Okay, so I've been reading Elizabethan revenge tragedies, so I am on board. I would love a hilariously overblown Master Plan, told in a ridiculously overdramatic style, with thunderbolts and lightning sound effects, and black-and-white flashbacks. The works. 

[vonmar]

2 minutes ago, wowbagger said:

Okay, so I've been reading Elizabethan revenge tragedies, so I am on board. I would love a hilariously overblown Master Plan, told in a ridiculously overdramatic style, with thunderbolts and lightning sound effects, and black-and-white flashbacks. The works. 

Some have been speculating that Sheldon might move back into his old room in 4A while Amy is gone.  Sheldon would be especially vulnerable to a Ramona revenge plot if L/P put their collective foot down and refused to let him move back.

Sheldon's descent into madness and then they can send Amy to the rescue! lol