Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 10

[koops]

I don't think anyone can be mad at Sheldon, no.

And to me it's more than not being able to read emotions, it is down to experience. Sheldon has never experienced "conventional" flirting and all the dancing around that goes on with that. He and Amy started out as very straightforward, everything-out-in-the-open friends with no ulterior motives towards each other. They got together before anything physical really happened between them other than that drunken kiss, but there was still a clarity of intentions at all times from both parties and none of these games that Ramona is playing. And, indeed Amy isn't any better than Sheldon. She had no clue Bert was hitting on her until Raj and Howard pointed it out and even then, she didn't buy it at first and it took her 5 minutes to figure it out for herself. Because they're just not used to this kind of behavior, they're not used to people having ulterior motives around them and, yes, they are very committed to one another and for Sheldon that should already means he's off-limits. 

I actually think they have written Sheldon as a massive sweetheart all season long, when it comes to Amy and these last two episodes are just the icing on the cake. We had been saying for years that you don't need to put them at odds with each other to make them funny, and this season has proven it so nicely.

[anicez]

First I want thank you @kazzie, you make so happy this morning that I can´t think properly! *.*
So exciting episode to watch the taping, so happy for you and so awesome you meet Mayim again, she is the best!  

34 minutes ago, kazzie said:

You guys are gonna love 10x23.....

I was thinking is ask you about that episode! how is the naughty talk? *Omg I can´t wait to watch it!*
And the reaction of P/L and R when they heard them??? THANKS AGAIN!!!

[snapepans]

9 minutes ago, Cara meli said:

*crawls out from lurkdom

Thank you, Kazzie! You are soooo cool.

I wonder if Ramona kissing him made Sheldon realize that someone could just as easily do the same with Amy. Like it's some sort of proof that there'll be people who won't respect their commitment and try to steal the other away? That's why he was shocked and went to her right away. Or maybe it also brought the image of someone else kissing Amy to his mind or the memory of that you know and it made him come to terms with the need to "seal the deal" so to speak with her and declare to everyone in that way that they belong to each other and no one else.

Oh, I like that bit about Sheldon not being very pleased that Leonard called Amy at such a late hour. He's adorably,  cluelessly possessive, is he not? 

I'm wondering this, too. And I remember Sheldon's line:" Don't fall in love with another scientist." 

So, I don't know...Maybe this time, the writers indeed had a plan? LOL.

[shamyyellow]

11 minutes ago, snapepans said:

I'm wondering this, too. And I remember Sheldon's line:" Don't fall in love with another scientist." 

So, I don't know...Maybe this time, the writers indeed had a plan? LOL.

It seems as though they definitely had a plan.

From what I heard, Sheldon said that if she sees someone that's a scientist, taller than him, and has hair like Fabio to stop what she's doing and abandon... which is exactly what he does when Ramona kisses him.

[koops]

LOL! That is another hilarious line. I love the action figure one too. But I had heard they cut the car scene in 10x23? Or am I mistaken? When does he say that about the scientist who has hair like Fabio?

[snapepans]

3 minutes ago, shamyyellow said:

It seems as though they definitely had a plan.

From what I heard, Sheldon said that if she sees someone that's a scientist, taller than him, and has hair like Fabio to stop what she's doing and abandon... which is exactly what he does when Ramona kisses him.

Thank you for the information, now I'm much more happier. LOL

Thank you!!!

[spidergirl]

5 minutes ago, shamyyellow said:

It seems as though they definitely had a plan.

From what I heard, Sheldon said that if she sees someone that's a scientist, taller than him, and has hair like Fabio to stop what she's doing and abandon... which is exactly what he does when Ramona kisses him.

Thanks for the info! It was a wise choice to advice and to do himself. Sheldon , you did not failed me, man!

 

[nusspot]

After knowing what happens at Amy's door, that short IG video from Jim kills me. What were they rehearsing? How to knock on the door? How to open it? How to properly get down on one knee? How to say the words and how to look shocked? LOL Jokes aside, what a tease Jim is. This must be the sweetest thing ever we've gotten from them. I can't put into words how much I love it! Thank you, Captain. Looking forward to 10x24, but maybe 10x23 more...it sounds sooo good.

[mirs1]

13 minutes ago, nusspot said:

After knowing what happens at Amy's door, that short IG video from Jim kills me. What were they rehearsing? How to knock on the door? How to open it? How to properly get down on one knee? How to say the words and how to look shocked? LOL Jokes aside, what a tease Jim is. This must be the sweetest thing ever we've gotten from them. I can't put into words how much I love it! Thank you, Captain. Looking forward to 10x24, but maybe 10x23 more...it sounds sooo good.

He was blatantly teasing us; that "We are rehearsing our lines" has a whole new meaning, now, since Mayim has no lines at all! That was an amazing gift to the fandom...TBH, after that video, it was waaaay easier for me to sleep tonight, I had a much happier look at the outcome of the episode afterwords. Not really seeing the proposal coming, but, you know, as a rule of thumb, if Jim is ok with a plot, I am too!

Edited April 26, 2017 by mirs1

[camelliayao]

Do we know anything from ep 23? I'm very curious about the coitus thing lol. 

[koops]

What I have heard through the grapevine blew my mind. Apparently it's Sheldon who asks to have sex and says that he's not doing it just to keep her in Pasadena, that he wants her to go and be happy. Basically, the writers have taken a few huge neon signs to put them in that scene and rule out any possible interpretation that isn't "they want to be physical because they love each other and are in the mood".  I expected to be happy with the scene no matter what, and that it would be evident that it is mutual, but I didn't expect it to be spelled out out loud. In actual dialogue. 

Seems like a corner has been turned for good in that writers' room.

ETA: Kazzie maybe can confirm. I'm pretty sure I have the gist of it though. I hope. LOL. 

Edited April 26, 2017 by koops

[spidergirl]

21 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

He was blatantly teasing us; that "We are rehearsing our lines" has a whole new meaning, now, since Mayim has no lines at all! That was an amazing gift to the fandom...TBH, after that video, it was waaaay easier for me to sleep tonight, I had a much happier look at the outcome of the episode afterwords. Not really seeing the proposal coming, but, you know, as a rule of thumb, if Jim is ok with a plot, I am too!

He was!

In my case the good vibes their IG video thrown to this side of Atlantic ocean made my sleep less of excitment, lol! But I am also used to not sleep many hours though! 

I love so much how Jim is a huge shamy shipper! Mayim is one too but more discreet. Even she sometimes doesnt show the excitment level of Captain Jim, Mayim kind of glows as Amy live such important shamy moments. She was glowing in IG posts last night. They are such a sweet, nice and talented actors, shamy could not be better performed , Jim and Mayim are in  shamy body and soul like perfection!

Edited April 26, 2017 by spidergirl

[Anglophile79]

Thank you so much @kazzie for the TR!

And now I have to go to work even though I'd rather stay on here. But for now I will just say how proud I am of Sheldon. Although he was oblivious to Ramona's intentions, I love how he talks about Amy the whole time, and is missing her so much, that his mind can't even fathom the idea of Ramona being interested. He was open and upfront to Ramona and to Amy. I'm also proud of the group for stepping in to protect Shamy. I'll save my thoughts on the proposal for later. Have fun discussing, everyone!

[Jonny]

Doesn't look like we will get to a 1000 pages this season, but 400 should be attainable by when all the episodes air. Obviously when people are unhappy they vent and there was a bloody lot to be unhappy about early Season 9.

Been thinking and pretty much everything seems to have been checked off our wants going into the season:

• More coitus with an end to annual only coitus. Check.
• Living together. Check.
• Proposal and successful Engagement. Check on the proposal, think it will be a success (I hope so). So almost a Check.
• Working together on a project. Check.
• General feeling the relationship is stronger. Check.
• More displays of affection, flirting, like saying they love each other and PDAs. Check.

What else is there that people wanted for this season? lol.

Immediate thoughts for me (which we can speculate and go into detail during the hiatus) for Season 11 Is hopefully a successful proposal attempt, perhaps exploring Amy's family as part of say a wedding preparation storyline? Maybe get some glimpses of their project again.

Kind of want them see them get married in Season 11 and then have one final season of them as man and wife (they are quirky and weird no need to make them a stereotypical sitcom trope marriage). But they may save the wedding until Season 12, slow it all down but I would personally keep the pace going. Get those creative writers working, writing imaginative stuff instead of creating drama or repeating old themes. They can do it, they have shown it especially earlier this season.

Anyway you really couldn't have asked for much more this season for them, the speed of developments they have had this season would have probably taken a decade under the old pacing. Forget two steps forward 1 step back, not the case at all this season.

Just fantastic, find myself with a huge smile this morning. Such an amazing season!

Edited April 26, 2017 by Jonny

[xjax]

Thanks @kazzie ...your report just made my day so much better...

Thanks also all supportive comments... this season didn't finish yet and I'm looking forward to s1101 lol

[spidergirl]

Although we are waiting for Amy's  answer, I could not be prouder of Sheldon. He had proved how much the love for Amy changed him even he will be always the same Sheldon for some things. But Amy knows him well and knows what he is capable of so after a heartfelt talk they will be perfectly fine and hopefully officially engaged.

And yeah the group made up finaly with me about their support about shamy . I hated how they handled with the subject regarding both of them in s9 and it will be really nice to see them helping both to handle with an issue in their relationship.

I can not wait to see this episode as Sheldon’s facial expressions surely will melt my heart but honestly I will melt totally as shamy made love again! Two weeks for the loove, three for the emotion! Love this! 

Edited April 26, 2017 by spidergirl

[Jonny]

I'm proud of Sheldon as well. I know it was the gang (Penny mainly by the sounds of it) that planted that seed in his mind but he was the one on acted on it by bringing it up and then getting the hell out of there, which was absolutely the right thing to do!

He won't get any criticism from me, she was making the moves. Sure i found some of the storyline a bit silly with some of the things they did together, Molaro really? 

But his job is not yet complete he has to tell Amy she made a pass at him imo, otherwise you just know it will come back big time one day and bite him in the ass. Most likely their wedding knowing the writers lol. Get it out in the open now, you did nothing wrong Sheldon you acted appropriately to the situation in the end. Amy will/should understand if you talk it through.

Edited April 26, 2017 by Jonny

[shamyy]

thank you kazzie can you tell us an informations about 10.23 espacially the coitus scene ?


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[snapepans]

I'm curious about your guys' speculations about 1101.

TBH, I'm really surprised about this proposal, with the Ramona spoiler, I totally didn't see it coming.

But, I have to admit, the proposal gave me a "Sheldon proposed out of his insecurity about their relationship" vibe.

As in: after he understood Ramona's intention, he was worried that someone might do the same thing with Amy, so he needed to seal the deal.

So, now I think there will be 3 possible scenarios:

1. Amy says yes. 

2. After learning what happened with Ramona, Amy pisses off and says no.

3. After learning what happened with Ramona, Amy calms Sheldon down, and talks to him(like Monica did on Friends).

Personally, I prefer the 3rd one. But I think the writers will go with the 1st one.

So, what do you think?

PS: If you think I'm raining on your parade, I'm really sorry. This is not my intention. I just want to discuss this episode and speculate the next one.

[koops]

13 minutes ago, Jonny said:

I'm proud of Sheldon as well. I know it was the gang (Penny mainly by the sounds of it) that planted that seed in his mind but he was the one on acted on it by bringing it up and then getting the hell out of there, which was absolutely the right thing to do!

He won't get any criticism from me, she was making the moves. Sure i found some of the storyline a bit silly with some of the things they did together, Molaro really? 

But his job is not yet complete he has to tell Amy she made a pass at him imo, otherwise you just know it will come back big time one day and bite him in the ass. Most likely their wedding knowing the writers lol. Get it out in the open now, you did nothing wrong Sheldon you acted appropriately to the situation in the end. Amy will/should understand if you talk it through.

One reason I'm pretty confident that they will clear this out in the premiere is that if they had wanted to milk drama out by having Sheldon hide it from Amy, they would have had her say yes so you think everything is fine, and then in the premiere the other shoe drops. Or later, closer to the wedding. I think the fact that they left it hanging and that Amy knows about Ramona means that it's unlikely it won't get discussed. Also, they've been there, done that with Lenny. I doubt they want to recycle the same plot twice, especially since Sheldon didn't do anything wrong and has no reason to hide it. 

[April]

14 minutes ago, Jonny said:

But his job is not yet complete he has to tell Amy she made a pass at him imo, otherwise you just know it will come back big time one day and bite him in the ass. Most likely their wedding knowing the writers lol. Get it out in the open now, you did nothing wrong Sheldon you acted appropriately to the situation in the end. Amy will/should understand if you talk it through.

I'd love it if they sat down and Amy asks him what happened (because for him to show up like this obviously something happened) and he rehashes what Ramona did and then drifts off into one of his adorable ramblings like in Earworm. <3

1 hour ago, koops said:

What I have heard through the grapevine blew my mind. Apparently it's Sheldon who asks to have sex and says that he's not doing it just to keep her in Pasadena, that he wants her to go and be happy. Basically, the writers have taken a few huge neon signs to put them in that scene and rule out any possible interpretation that isn't "they want to be physical because they love each other and are in the mood".  I expected to be happy with the scene no matter what, and that it would be evident that it is mutual, but I didn't expect it to be spelled out out loud. In actual dialogue. 

Seems like a corner has been turned for good in that writers' room.

ETA: Kazzie maybe can confirm. I'm pretty sure I have the gist of it though. I hope. LOL. 

Yep. From what I've heard it's also very enthusiastic and fanfic-y which... lmao can't wait to see this!

[Jonny]

10 minutes ago, koops said:

One reason I'm pretty confident that they will clear this out in the premiere is that if they had wanted to milk drama out by having Sheldon hide it from Amy, they would have had her say yes so you think everything is fine, and then in the premiere the other shoe drops. Or later, closer to the wedding. I think the fact that they left it hanging and that Amy knows about Ramona means that it's unlikely it won't get discussed. Also, they've been there, done that with Lenny. I doubt they want to recycle the same plot twice, especially since Sheldon didn't do anything wrong and has no reason to hide it. 

Good point! Yeah if she had said yes in that scene it wouldn't surprise me at all if it was brought up again further down the line.

Hopefully we get a scene or perhaps at the very least a reference that they had talked it out. For example Amy could be back in 4B in the opener maybe having a catch up with Bernie and Penny (showing off she is engaged lol) and it gets brought up and she says she discussed it all with Sheldon including Ramona having made a pass at him. That would be enough for me.

9 minutes ago, April said:

I'd love it if they sat down and Amy asks him what happened (because for him to show up like this obviously something happened) and he rehashes what Ramona did and then drifts off into one of his adorable ramblings like in Earworm. <3

Yeah I would like to see a discussion or at the very least see it clearly acknowledged they talked it out fully and there is no issue.

Edited April 26, 2017 by Jonny

[mirs1]

23 minutes ago, snapepans said:

I'm curious about your guys' speculations about 1101.

TBH, I'm really surprised about this proposal, with the Ramona spoiler, I totally didn't see it coming.

But, I have to admit, the proposal gave me a "Sheldon proposed out of his insecurity about their relationship" vibe.

As in: after he understood Ramona's intention, he was worried that someone might do the same thing with Amy, so he needed to seal the deal.

So, now I think there will be 3 possible scenarios:

1. Amy says yes. 

2. After learning what happened with Ramona, Amy pisses off and says no.

3. After learning what happened with Ramona, Amy calms Sheldon down, and talks to him(like Monica did on Friends).

Personally, I prefer the 3rd one. But I think the writers will go with the 1st one.

So, what do you think?

PS: If you think I'm raining on your parade, I'm really sorry. This is not my intention. I just want to discuss this episode and speculate the next one.

Oh, don't worry, you aren't raining in any parade. TBH, I'm also not quite trilled that a third party was somehow the catalyzer of a proposal or that a catalyzed was needed in the first place. Without having watched the episode, I think  that Sheldon didn't feel guilty for what had happened with Ramona, or insecure about what could happen to Amy while she is away, the spur of the moment proposal was more of a way to make the commitment he feels for Amy, and that made for him unthinkable that another woman wanted to hit on him, official. I hope they talk things out in the premiere, before Amy says YES. I don't think she will say NO out of spite, since the plot was very careful in showing Sheldon didn't do anything to get to that kiss, and I can't think of any other reason for which she could turn him down. I would have preferred another kind of proposal but, hey, we have been happy enough this season, so...

Edited April 26, 2017 by mirs1

[koops]

I think it would be very unreasonable and OOC of Amy to get pissed off and say no. I mean, for one, she's been wanting to marry Sheldon for ages. Secondly, again, Sheldon has done absolutely nothing wrong and the entire gang is his witness. Amy has always been very understanding and she knows him better than anyone. It would be ridiculous if she refuses because of this.

She might "refuse" because when they talk it out, Sheldon admits he felt compelled to do it to demonstrate his commitment (which I think it's more likely than because he feared someone might hit on Amy - if they had wanted to go for that, they would have had Amy hang out with a handsome scientist or something) and they decide he will propose again when they're calmed down and do things "properly" once she's back in California. But I doubt she would say no because she feels he's not serious or committed enough or she's angry at him for that kiss. That just doesn't sound like Amy. 

There's also the other option that he's done it because that kiss made him realize that he's 100% committed and happy and there's no reason to wait. Or a combination of this and guilt. All scenarios where Amy might say yes in the premiere. 

Basically, I think she's either going to say yes, or a "deferred" yes, but I strongly doubt there will be major drama and angst about any of this. 

[snapepans]

Thank you, @mirs1 and @koops !!!

TBH, I'm really NOT mad at Sheldon at all, because he indeed didn't do anything wrong. And, I think this was the writers' intention. They wanted to underline this point. 

I just don't like this proporal, like @mirs1 said, they don't need any catalyzer at all.

Now I think they will talk about what happened, then Amy will say yes.