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10 hours ago, April said:

My original point was that the writers have been throwing around plenty of story bits that they can make use of if they wish to do so. You can argue all you want that this means nothing but the fact remains that Sheldon did ask Amy to move in and they can make Sheldon ask her again, especially now that they're in a good place. Just like the ring is still floating around 4A somewhere and can come up any time they seem fit.

I don't think they care about the Chinese audience (Hollywood does for their blockbusters but not television) and the US audience seems to love Shamy. So even if there is a vocal minority of Shenny/vintage Sheldon fans TPTB won't listen to them - especially not that late in the game.

Well since eventually Shamy will move in together, we can always say "ah see the writers were testing waters in 904" when that happens. That's convenient lol. I just don't think  904 was a set up because to me clearly Amy was the last one on Sheldon's list. You can argue all you want that's because Shamy were broken up and Sheldon couldn't ask her, but the fact remains he considered 12 people before asking Amy.

I know they don't care about us. That's why I said the TPTB won't listen to them and I'm very surprised Jim made so much effort on weibo. If it were for his own film, I can assure him it doesn't make much of a difference. As far as the TV thing, well everything has a first. There was a time when nobody in Hollywood cared about the audience in my country. You never know lol. Or if you have magic powers and do know what the market would be like in the future, please, please tell me. I could be rich! And if TPTB didn't care about Shenny fans at all (not just talking about people in my country), they wouldn't do something like the 902 kiss. I saw a lot of Shamy fans on the forum were disappointed by that kiss, even though that was a dream kiss. 

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28 minutes ago, camelliayao said:

I know they don't care about us. That's why I said the TPTB won't listen to them and I'm very surprised Jim made so much effort on weibo. If it were for his own film, I can assure him it doesn't make much of a difference. 

If I remember correctly, when he was promoting Home, Dreamworks Animation set up a Weibo page for the movie and Jim made also some kind of Q&A with his Chinese fans about it. Maybe he is "coping" that advertising strategy and setting up his own page in case he has something to promote in the Chinese market in the (near) future. Whether it is a "good" advertising strategy...no idea...

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6 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

If I remember correctly, when he was promoting Home, Dreamworks Animation set up a Weibo page for the movie and Jim made also some kind of Q&A with his Chinese fans about it. Maybe he is "coping" this advertising strategy and setting up his page in case he has something to promote in the Chinese market in the (near) future. Whether it is a "good" advertising strategy...no idea...

Yes but he wasn't very active back then. And this time he talks about more about TBBT. If this is another promoting strategy for his film, I'm afraid it won't be too successful considering he only has half a million followers lol. Also I don't think many people in my country would be interested in his upcoming films that we know of so far.

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If the writers decide to show the Lenny redo, then I hope we get to see all the couples dancing.

Sheldon holding Amy in his arms, both looking into each other´s eyes, while they slowly dance would be lovely. :tender:

Maybe the whole wedding atmosphere will have an influence on them and we get a nice Shamy scene.

Something like Shamy making out in the drawer.

Or they hold hands, while they are watching the ceremony and they exchange looks of love.

I would be happy with every little bit we get.

 

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1 hour ago, Desdemona said:

If the writers decide to show the Lenny redo, then I hope we get to see all the couples dancing.

Sheldon holding Amy in his arms, both looking into each other´s eyes, while they slowly dance would be lovely. :tender:

Maybe the whole wedding atmosphere will have an influence on them and we get a nice Shamy scene.

Something like Shamy making out in the drawer.

Or they hold hands, while they are watching the ceremony and they exchange looks of love.

I would be happy with every little bit we get.

 

I'm really hoping for this too !! 

We didn't get to see the slow dancing at prom, and we're over due some kisses / make out at least :) !

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11 minutes ago, Soopysue said:

I'm really hoping for this too !! 

We didn't get to see the slow dancing at prom, and we're over due some kisses / make out at least :) !

That´s right, the writers owe us a dance! :shy:

And I would like to see Shamy waking up next to each other, both with messed up hair, smiling at each other.

Or Sheldon wakes up, because he has to follow his daily routine and finds Amy wrapped around him. He tries to crawl out under her, but without success, so he grabs her, stands up carefully, while he still holds her and puts her back into his bed, before he leaves the room and walks towards the bathroom.

 

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Sign me up for a happy wedding redo as well! After S9's disappointing opening overselling the "wedding of the year" or whatever the commercial was it would just be right to get a lovely mostly drama free wedding for everyone. The families can cause some fun shenanigans with more hilarious awkwardness but I want the main ceremony be a proper sweet scene mainly for Lenny, of course, but I'm sure they can sneak in a few nice reaction shots from Shamy. If Amy insists on being maid of honour maybe Sheldon will be best man just to keep the balance and you could have them exchange some sweet looks while Bernie officiates and says some nice romantic lines. Or they'll sit together after all and hold hands during the ceremony. And maybe later there's a cute party scene with dancing. Or later later we'll see them head off to bed together...

I guess it all depends on how much time the writers planned for this redo business, especially since they also have to introduce Penny's family. So ideally I would hope for two episodes that would also leave enough room for the ceremony and some possible cuteness for the other characters. <3

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As the redo is Lenny´s big moment, we don´t get to see much Shamy scenes, but that´s totally fine for me, as I said I´m happy with every little Shamy moment we get. I hope that Lenny´s redo won´t be disturbed by Leonard´s parents, because if Alfred and Mary really did it in 9x24 and Beverly will find out, she will spit her poisonous comments all around and this could turn into a fight between either Leonard´s parents or between Beverly and Mary.

And if Penny´s mother appears as well and tries to intervene, then we would get a total chaos. Mary would be hitting Beverly with her bible, while Beverly would try to scratch out Mary´s eyes with her finger nails and in the middle of everything you would find Penny´s mother trying to separate them. (I don´t know why, but as Penny´s father seems to be a sweet and harmless guy, I have a feeling that Penny´s mother is the tough one in the family, who knows how to kick some asses. where else should Penny have gotten it from?).

I hope that everyone will be peaceful for Lenny´s sake, so they can finally have the wedding they deserve.

There will be enough time in season 10 for lots of sweet Shamy moments. I hope we get at least one of the big three (LA/proposal/marriage) moments for Shamy in season 10 if it is not the last one. If it will be the last one, then the writers better hurry, so we see all the three.

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I liked Ramona, because she was the first woman that admired him for his intelligence and seemed to understand his sense of humor, plus she was the first woman that Sheldon had physical contact with (if rubbing his hammer toe with a pumice stone counts LOL). I laughed so hard, when they had their "first date" at 4a, while the gang were watching them (seriously the only thing that was missing, was the gang munching popcorn, while watching "Dr. Cooper And The Women" :rofl:). And she was the first one who pushed him to concentrate on his work, which was successful. Ok, she did it for her own purpose and if she hadn´t commit this tremendous error, she would have continued pushing him to work until he had won the Nobel prize. (Unfortunately it would have cost him his free time with his friends)

But Sheldon would have never had a serious relationship with her, it would have been a relationship based only on professional basis.

I guess what Sheldon finds attractive on Amy is the fact, that she intelligent and opens him for new things (like social studies) and is not afraid of confrontations (their first break up, showed it clearly, if I don´t remember wrong it was the first time that Sheldon was speechless and ran out of arguments, I´m missing these little conversations, where they were arguing on different fields of their works, because that´s their passion and it´s amazing how Amy competes with Sheldon mentally).

I would like to have them arguing about something and then Sheldon interrupts their conversation, kissing Amy passionately, because on one hand he doesn´t want to admit that he can´t disprove her theory, so he wants to stop their discussion and on the other hand, this heated conversation set him on fire, because it makes him realise how much he loves her sharp mind.

I love that they have so much in common, but I love them even more for their differences, because opposites attract and they can be both passionate and this passion led to great shamy moments in the past.

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3 hours ago, Desdemona said:

I laughed so hard, when they had their "first date" at 4a, while the gang were watching them (seriously the only thing that was missing, was the gang munching popcorn, while watching "Dr. Cooper And The Women" :rofl:).

I was cackling at this as well. LOL The gang's reaction to Ramona was hilarious start to finish!

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But Sheldon would have never had a serious relationship with her, it would have been a relationship based only on professional basis.

I guess what Sheldon finds attractive on Amy is the fact, that she intelligent and opens him for new things (like social studies) and is not afraid of confrontations (their first break up, showed it clearly, if I don´t remember wrong it was the first time that Sheldon was speechless and ran out of arguments, I´m missing these little conversations, where they were arguing on different fields of their works, because that´s their passion and it´s amazing how Amy competes with Sheldon mentally).

Yeah, I think Amy has an edge that makes her interesting and sets her apart from his "physics groupies" or other earlier potential love interests: She's a challenge. It goes very well with the show's premise of all these characters tugging each other out of their shells. But at the same time there's still a big overlap in Sheldon's and Amy's interests and how they like to spend their time. More than the other couples the two of them are characterised by the things they have in common. It makes for a great balance in their dynamic.

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It's pretty funny to notice how, before any milestone for Sheldon and Shamy, the writers kind of test the waters in some previous episodes; there were Martha and the "kiss" with Leonard's mother before Amy appeared, then there was Herb Garden before the first kiss with Amy, in S. 7 there were a couple of mentions to a kiss before Sheldon kissed Amy, and the first half of S.9 was full of hints about a "sexualized" Sheldon. Watching the old seasons makes me see those patterns.  

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10 hours ago, April said:

Yeah, I think Amy has an edge that makes her interesting and sets her apart from his "physics groupies" or other earlier potential love interests: She's a challenge. It goes very well with the show's premise of all these characters tugging each other out of their shells. But at the same time there's still a big overlap in Sheldon's and Amy's interests and how they like to spend their time. More than the other couples the two of them are characterised by the things they have in common. It makes for a great balance in their dynamic.

I agree there´s a big overlap in their interests, which was the premise to catch Sheldon´s attention. He got interested, when he heard that she shared the same aversion against dirty hosiery and any form of physical contact. This were the key words for Sheldon to realise that he wanted to get to know her better. And the more he found out about her, the more he liked her and realised that "she was more similar to him than anyone he has ever met".

For him it was like meeting a female version of himself. Of course her personality has changed over the years and Sheldon had his problems with this change of her, but it as we have all noticed in "The Zazzy Substitution" it was too late, to go back, because she had already left her marks in him.

It was so heartbreaking to see how he was trying to fill this emptyness he was feeling with a dozen of cats.

It is just my impression and opinion, but I had the feeling that he was buying all these cats, because he was trying fill the whole in his heart, because even if he didn´t want to admit it, he missed her terribly. But all these cats couldn´t replace Amy of course, so he gave all of them away, as soon as she returned into his life (but I didn´t understand, why he had to give every person who got a cat 20 dollars as well, there are people out there, who would have taken a cat for free, because they love cats) And the fact, that he was caressing "Zazzles" showed me for the first time, that he can be caring and tender as well.

9 hours ago, mirs1 said:

It's pretty funny to notice how, before any milestone for Sheldon and Shamy, the writers kind of test the waters in some previous episodes; there were Martha and the "kiss" with Leonard's mother before Amy appeared, then there was Herb Garden before the first kiss with Amy, in S. 7 there were a couple of mentions to a kiss before Sheldon kissed Amy, and the first half of S.9 was full of hints about a "sexualized" Sheldon. Watching the old seasons makes me see those patterns.  

I think it is interesting as well, that´s why I´m going to watch the first episodes of season 10 very carefully, looking for any hints of what is coming next for Shamy. Lenny´s redo could be the perfect oportunity for Sheldon to reconsider his proposal plans with Amy and to ask her finally.

At the moment I´m struggling if I should stay unspoiled for season 10 or not.

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4 hours ago, Desdemona said:

I think it is interesting as well, that´s why I´m going to watch the first episodes of season 10 very carefully, looking for any hints of what is coming next for Shamy. Lenny´s redo could be the perfect oportunity for Sheldon to reconsider his proposal plans with Amy and to ask her finally.

At the moment I´m struggling if I should stay unspoiled for season 10 or not.

We have a rough idea on what is going to happen to Lenny, Howardette and most likely Raj in Season 10 but not Shamy. I have things in mind (engagement, marriage if Season 10 is the last, more intimacy, maybe living together etc) that I would like to see happen in Season 10 for Shamy but I don't think any of us can strongly predict what will happen for our favorite couple. I guess that is part of the appeal as they aren't the usual stereotypical couple and you just never know what direction they are going to go in but at times it can be frustrating. I'm happy with where Shamy are right now and I am confident that we will get some major progress in Season 10.

I get your dilemma about being unspoiled or not, I think if I lived in the US and watched at their pace I would probably stay unspoiled but I live in the UK and the show always starts months after. I'm a late viewer to the series so I watched 1-8 unspoiled but then watched Season 9 spoiled and I wasn't bothered that I knew what was coming, I just love watching this couple interact so much that I was happy to view the actual full episode even though I knew what was going to happen.

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15 hours ago, mirs1 said:

It's pretty funny to notice how, before any milestone for Sheldon and Shamy, the writers kind of test the waters in some previous episodes; there were Martha and the "kiss" with Leonard's mother before Amy appeared, then there was Herb Garden before the first kiss with Amy, in S. 7 there were a couple of mentions to a kiss before Sheldon kissed Amy, and the first half of S.9 was full of hints about a "sexualized" Sheldon. Watching the old seasons makes me see those patterns.  

Exactly. I mean one could argue that not all of that was intentional foreshadowing and them just throwing all sorts of ideas at the wall and see what sticks. But either way they are repeatedly exploring ideas and putting in certain lines that will be picked up again later and thus inevitably given a deeper meaning in the grand scheme of things. And while it certainly doesn't make it easier to make precise predictions about what will happen it does at least signify a certain direction and helps to build a coherent story over the years. And as said, it's fun to go back and connect the dots every once in a while. ;D

Watching the early seasons I can't help but smile every time Sheldon mentions monkeys or wants to play some made up game etc., cause these are exactly the little delights he'll later share with Amy. Plus, there also seem to be some happy coincidences like the fact that Mayim has her PhD in neuroscience which, as the story goes, seems to be the reason that this ended up being Amy's field of science as well. Why happy coincidence? Cause in early seasons we had Sheldon express some interest in the field and was bonding with Beverly (also a neuroscientist) over some related topics. So it all fits rather neatly together. <3

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9 minutes ago, April said:

Exactly. I mean one could argue that not all of that was intentional foreshadowing and them just throwing all sorts of ideas at the wall and see what sticks. But either way they are repeatedly exploring ideas and putting in certain lines that will be picked up again later and thus inevitably given a deeper meaning in the grant scheme of things. And while it certainly doesn't make it easier to make precise predictions about what will happen it does at least signify a certain direction and helps to build a coherent story over the years. And as said, it's fun to go back and connect the dots every once in a while. ;D

Watching the early seasons I can't help but smile every time Sheldon mentions monkeys or wants to play some made up game etc., cause these are exactly the little delights he'll later share with Amy. Plus, there also seem to be some happy coincidences like the fact that Mayim has her PhD in neuroscience which, as the story goes, seems to be the reason that this ended up being Amy's field of science as well. Why happy coincidence? Cause in early seasons we had Sheldon express some interest in the field and was bonding with Beverly (also a neuroscientist) over some related topics. So it all fits rather neatly together. <3

Yes, that's the fun part of a re-watch, apart from enjoying the "old" times, LOL! You can connect the dots, see which ideas made it to further seasons and which not, catch a sort of evolution in the plot-lines.

I also giggle so much when Season 1-3 Sheldon is so adamantine in saying he won't ever do certain things and just few years later he is on board for them...Like dancing: in Episode 3.3

"Penny, while I subscribe to the many worlds theory which posits the existence of an infinite number of Sheldons in an infinite number of universes, I assure you that in none of them am I dancing" 

Oh, dear Sheldon, there will come a time where not only you'll dance waltz with your "special lady", but you'll do whatever you can to let her have the prom she didn't get when she was a teen!

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1 hour ago, Jonny83 said:

We have a rough idea on what is going to happen to Lenny, Howardette and most likely Raj in Season 10 but not Shamy. I have things in mind (engagement, marriage if Season 10 is the last, more intimacy, maybe living together etc) that I would like to see happen in Season 10 for Shamy but I don't think any of us can strongly predict what will happen for our favorite couple. I guess that is part of the appeal as they aren't the usual stereotypical couple and you just never know what direction they are going to go in but at times it can be frustrating. I'm happy with where Shamy are right now and I am confident that we will get some major progress in Season 10.

I get your dilemma about being unspoiled or not, I think if I lived in the US and watched at their pace I would probably stay unspoiled but I live in the UK and the show always starts months after. I'm a late viewer to the series so I watched 1-8 unspoiled but then watched Season 9 spoiled and I wasn't bothered that I knew what was coming, I just love watching this couple interact so much that I was happy to view the actual full episode even though I knew what was going to happen.

I don´t see them as predictions either, but just hints or better said, tests to prepare us for things that the writers might introduce into the show later.

Like @mirs1 said, the writers always introduced things like for example Leonard´s dream and Sheldon´s sex talk in season 9 to prepare us for the "big event" and other things.

Of course there were also moments, that seemed like a hint, but which led to nothing, like the turtle story.

I was disappointed that they gave up this idea so easily, it could have been interesting, to see how Shamy would have tried to take care of a turtle, while living in two apartments. It would have been cute, if Sheldon woke up in the middle of the night, because he heard the turtle sneezing and gets all worried and calls Amy to get Giuseppe to the doctor ASAP. And after they came back from the doctor´s, Amy would spent the night at Sheldon´s, so they could take turns to look for Giuseppe. Amy could give Giuseppe medicine, because Sheldon fears that it could bite him and Sheldon could sing "Soft Kitty" to the turtle. It could have been a nice way to get Sheldon used to the idea of starting a family with Amy and to move together, to take care of the turtle together.

And while I´m writing this, I realise: "Damn, I want that turtle back!"

Please August come as soon as possible, before I´m getting nuts!

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33 minutes ago, Desdemona said:

I don´t see them as predictions either, but just hints or better said, tests to prepare us for things that the writers might introduce into the show later.

Like @mirs1 said, the writers always introduced things like for example Leonard´s dream and Sheldon´s sex talk in season 9 to prepare us for the "big event" and other things.

Of course there were also moments, that seemed like a hint, but which led to nothing, like the turtle story.

I was disappointed that they gave up this idea so easily, it could have been interesting, to see how Shamy would have tried to take care of a turtle, while living in two apartments. It would have been cute, if Sheldon woke up in the middle of the night, because he heard the turtle sneezing and gets all worried and calls Amy to get Giuseppe to the doctor ASAP. And after they came back from the doctor´s, Amy would spent the night at Sheldon´s, so they could take turns to look for Giuseppe. Amy could give Giuseppe medicine, because Sheldon fears that it could bite him and Sheldon could sing "Soft Kitty" to the turtle. It could have been a nice way to get Sheldon used to the idea of starting a family with Amy and to move together, to take care of the turtle together.

And while I´m writing this, I realise: "Damn, I want that turtle back!"

Please August come as soon as possible, before I´m getting nuts!

Yeah I wouldn't mind seeing a second attempt at them getting a pet together and this time it being successful.I like your idea of perhaps tying a pet to Amy finally living with him.

Imagine Lenny have moved out and there is all the speculation in the gang is about who is going to fill the vacancy in 4A. Amy thinks after years of trying and not sure Sheldon is ready yet that it won't be her and automatically assumes Sheldon will get another roomate instead. Skip to the end of the episode with Sheldon asking Amy to move in with him and Giuseppe, Amy goes off on one thinking Sheldon is asking her to live with him but also with someone else but it turns out that Giuseppe is a turtle. That would be pretty cool and I think Amy would love it.

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22 minutes ago, Desdemona said:

I don´t see them as predictions either, but just hints or better said, tests to prepare us for things that the writers might introduce into the show later.

Like @mirs1 said, the writers always introduced things like for example Leonard´s dream and Sheldon´s sex talk in season 9 to prepare us for the "big event" and other things.

Of course there were also moments, that seemed like a hint, but which led to nothing, like the turtle story.

I was disappointed that they gave up this idea so easily, it could have been interesting, to see how Shamy would have tried to take care of a turtle, while living in two apartments. It would have been cute, if Sheldon woke up in the middle of the night, because he heard the turtle sneezing and gets all worried and calls Amy to get Giuseppe to the doctor ASAP. And after they came back from the doctor´s, Amy would spent the night at Sheldon´s, so they could take turns to look for Giuseppe. Amy could give Giuseppe medicine, because Sheldon fears that it could bite him and Sheldon could sing "Soft Kitty" to the turtle. It could have been a nice way to get Sheldon used to the idea of starting a family with Amy and to move together, to take care of the turtle together.

And while I´m writing this, I realise: "Damn, I want that turtle back!"

Please August come as soon as possible, before I´m getting nuts!

Haha! I LOLed really hard and my imagination was running wild on that particular noise! :sarcastichand:  :icon_cheesygrin:

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2 hours ago, Jonny83 said:

Yeah I wouldn't mind seeing a second attempt at them getting a pet together and this time it being successful.I like your idea of perhaps tying a pet to Amy finally living with him.

Imagine Lenny have moved out and there is all the speculation in the gang is about who is going to fill the vacancy in 4A. Amy thinks after years of trying and not sure Sheldon is ready yet that it won't be her and automatically assumes Sheldon will get another roomate instead. Skip to the end of the episode with Sheldon asking Amy to move in with him and Giuseppe, Amy goes off on one thinking Sheldon is asking her to live with him but also with someone else but it turns out that Giuseppe is a turtle. That would be pretty cool and I think Amy would love it.

That would be lovely! :tender:

I really hope that we get to see them living together one day. I was somehow hoping that after they had sex, that Sheldon would offer Amy to spend the day and night together in his or her place for at least once or twice a week on a trial basis, but nothing happened. So I think something else has to happen, before Sheldon seems to be ready for this step. Or who knows, maybe they are already trying it and we don´t see it on screen? But as far as I remember, we haven´t received any hints so far, have we?

2 hours ago, veejay said:

Haha! I LOLed really hard and my imagination was running wild on that particular noise! :sarcastichand:  :icon_cheesygrin:

It would sound like that :icon_cheesygrin: (You will have to turn up the sound, to hear it sneezing):

 

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30 minutes ago, Desdemona said:

That would be lovely! :tender:

I really hope that we get to see them living together one day. I was somehow hoping that after they had sex, that Sheldon would offer Amy to spend the day and night together in his or her place for at least once or twice a week on a trial basis, but nothing happened. So I think something else has to happen, before Sheldon seems to be ready for this step. Or who knows, maybe they are already trying it and we don´t see it on screen? But as far as I remember, we haven´t received any hints so far, have we?

Yeah, we're long overdue for an update on that front! It's like they have a season quota for any physical Shamy stuff and all of that went into 9x10/9x11.

I would hope the writers won't wait too long for the next big episode of that kind! lol

30 minutes ago, Desdemona said:

It would sound like that :icon_cheesygrin: (You will have to turn up the sound, to hear it sneezing):

omg how cute!

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37 minutes ago, Desdemona said:

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It would sound like that :icon_cheesygrin: (You will have to turn up the sound, to hear it sneezing):

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Woah! Unbelievable! I wouldn't dream of such a thing! Thank you so much! :icon_cheesygrin:

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3 minutes ago, April said:

Yeah, we're long overdue for an update on that front! It's like they have a season quota for any physical Shamy stuff and all of that went into 9x10/9x11.

I would hope the writers won't wait too long for the next big episode of that kind! lol

I hope so too April.

If I were Amy I would tell Sheldon, that he doesn´t have to have sex with me on my birthday, because I don´t want to force him to sex and then I would wait to see his reaction. I know this would be a tough decision for Amy, but it would cause a reaction and it would be up to him, to show how important sex is for him. Or not.

It could be hilarious to see Sheldon´s surprise and then how he works with this information. Would it be a bumper for him, because he really did enjoy it as he said or would he be indifferent about it? I would love to see the outcome of it.

As every kiss was an increase of the last one, I wonder what comes next (I really hope there will be more kisses, SIHs, hand holding, etc.).

Maybe a continuation of what they started in the opening of 8x24? A passionate Sheldon?

 

 

17 minutes ago, veejay said:

Woah! Unbelievable! I wouldn't dream of such a thing! Thank you so much! :icon_cheesygrin:

You´re welcome! :shy:

 

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7 minutes ago, Desdemona said:

You´re welcome! :shy:

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