Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 10

[Judith]

Ok, I'm liking what I'm reading so far. I'm going to make a guess and say that Sheldon and Amy having sex again will be a sweeps ep (not sure if this is too).

So now we know 100% that they only had sex that one time in 9.11. I'm GLAD it's crystal clear and have no problem with it for reasons that have already been discussed here.

Sheldon tells Amy that he's thinking of dating other women cause he's afraid he's going to be like his dad and he wants to prepare her, then he admits it and they hug and share a toothbrush holder in the end! And no bathroom schedule!

Things are going REALLY great so far!

[Tenji]

I wonder how they will proceed with Sheldon because they seem to have set up something to explain why he hasn't had sex with Amy until only recently. I love the idea that he has awakened his sexual desires by sleeping with Amy but has perhaps been trying to control them because he is scared of ending up like his father. I know it's a sitcom and we won't get anything too deep and meaningful but it would be great for him to talk to Amy about this and overcome that hurdle together.

[brilliantfool]

Tbh 10x5 sounds nearly perfect to me! 

- Sheldon admitting to sexual desires (fiiiiinally...... I thought it'd never happen)
- Shamy continuing on with the experiment
- Raj finally single (I love you Raj, but you were an asshole lately)
- Howardette having a cute storyline
- Penny & Sheldon have a storyline (I know it's an issue for many, but I love it when they spend time together )
- unlikely pairing of Leonard and Amy having a storyline (and for once, Amy doesn't sound mean, and Leonard doesn't sound alienated, and they're actually friendly?)
- and it feels like 10x06 is still gonna be the same LA

so bring it own, writers! I was really bored since like 9x16 with that gyroscope story, but now it looks like things are picking up

[April]

1 hour ago, Lady in Red said:

To clarify one point - Sheldon told Penny the story about his father because he is afraid that he will hurt Amy in the future, because he will turn out to be like his father.  That is why Sheldon is bickering with her, because that is what his parents were like.  He is afraid he will end up hurting Amy.  Penny tells him to stop worrying about hurting Amy in the future, and to stop hurting Amy now.  

Sheldon has a lot of baggage from his childhood, and the writers are developing that some more.  

Bringing this over from the other thread. If that doesn't hit you right in the feels Idk what would. OMG

I need a hug! (Thank goodness Shamy get one at the end of the episode!)

[Jonny]

Morning all (morning my time heh)

Good to see another episode on the living experiment and as expected more teething problems for our favorite couple in trying to adjust. It was never going to be easy, they were always going to have to work at it by discussing and compromising and after a brief break which allowed Sheldon and Amy to get advice from Penny and Leonard they did that. Sheldon abandoning the bathroom schedule and allowing his toothbrush to share a holder is big for him and by the sounds of it Amy was happy with a sweet hug at the end.

Sheldon by the sounds of it is struggling to contain his sexual urges which might mean we get an episode soon where they address their sex life in some way. You also had the line about Amy staring at him like a piece of meat and I assume those 'genitals to behold' when he comes out of the shower so I guess it's probably bubbling up for both of them. Something will happen soon I am sure of it, and maybe the comment/interpretation on the Big Bang facebook page from Molaro a while back was correct in that Sheldon may want to be more physical more often.

The dating other women line I took just to be Sheldon saying his mum and dad bickered which drove his dad towards other women and he wondered because Amy and Sheldon are bickering a lot right now as they adjust whether he would head the same way, kind of a 'Like father, like son'. I don't think he means it and he told Amy as much when he got back.

They do seem to be working through their issues especially with Penny and Leonard around for advice, hopefully when they have resolved most of them they will comfortable making this move to live together permanent.

Edited September 21, 2016 by Jonny

[mirs1]

4 minutes ago, Jonny said:

They do seem to be working through their issues especially with Penny and Leonard around for advice, hopefully when they have resolved most of them they will comfortable making this move to live together permanent.

Well...right now it seems that, if Sheldon tries to come back in 4A, he will need some help with the locks, LOL! Good move Lenny!!! Shut him out!!!

[Jonny]

9 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

Well...right now it seems that, if Sheldon tries to come back in 4A, he will need some help with the locks, LOL! Good move Lenny!!! Shut him out!!!

Sheldon iirc can pick locks so I am not sure that will work lol

[mirs1]

2 minutes ago, Jonny said:

Sheldon iirc can pick locks so I am not sure that will work lol

I think that was Howard, due to his magic tricks, that learnt his ways with locks...Not sure about Sheldon. Anyway, if that is the case, pretty sure Leonard knows it and has opted for a very difficult to open new lock, LOL!

[April]

It honestly makes me wonder if that was just a throwaway joke or if Lenny really want to claim 4A and Shamy will stay in 4B??

Because then 4B definitely needs a renovation. I can buy that Leonard would live in Penny's apartment without needing many changes, but Shamy? They will need to make this their own place.

[A Shamy gal]

4 minutes ago, Jonny said:

Sheldon iirc can pick locks so I am not sure that will work lol

He had no trouble getting into Amy's apartment.  Also after the break-in years ago, I would have thought Sheldon got the best lock he could get it.  It could be simply that Sheldon has given up his keys to his apartment for the duration of the experiment not that the locks have been changed.

[Jonny]

10 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

I think that was Howard, due to his magic tricks, that learnt his ways with locks...Not sure about Sheldon. Anyway, if that is the case, pretty sure Leonard knows it and has opted for a very difficult to open new lock, LOL!

Well he picked the one at that ball pool place (the bazinga one with Leonard trying to drag him out lol) and that was when he is sleep deprived. Sheldon is likely to melt the lock off with some chemical if they lock him out for good lol.

[Lady in Red]

On 8/11/2016 at 6:16 AM, Judith said:

 

 

9 minutes ago, April said:

It honestly makes me wonder if that was just a throwaway joke or if Lenny really want to claim 4A and Shamy will stay in 4B??

Because then 4B definitely needs a renovation. I can buy that Leonard would live in Penny's apartment without needing many changes, but Shamy? They will need to make this their own place.

April, I wondered exactly the same thing when Leonard said it.  I would not be surprised if the locks being changed to 4A never comes up again.  

Time will tell.

[Jonny]

7 hours ago, April said:

It honestly makes me wonder if that was just a throwaway joke or if Lenny really want to claim 4A and Shamy will stay in 4B??

Because then 4B definitely needs a renovation. I can buy that Leonard would live in Penny's apartment without needing many changes, but Shamy? They will need to make this their own place.

I agree I think Shamy will live together but I think there may be trouble ahead if they end up in 4B. Sheldon is going to have to give up a lot to stay in 4B, but maybe he will surprise us and because of his love for Amy be willing to do it. What's he going to do when he needs to work? Play some games? Watch tv in his spot?

But if Sheldon and Amy move into 4A what happens to the other bedroom? You still want them to share a bed otherwise it's just one step forward one step back. I guess they could come up with a storyline like Leonard stores his stuff there or they use it as an office or something.

It seems to me that Lenny could move to 4B and would be happy to and there would be less stuff to change. But we shall see.

Edited September 21, 2016 by Jonny

[mirs1]

16 minutes ago, April said:

It honestly makes me wonder if that was just a throwaway joke or if Lenny really want to claim 4A and Shamy will stay in 4B??

Because then 4B definitely needs a renovation. I can buy that Leonard would live in Penny's apartment without needing many changes, but Shamy? They will need to make this their own place.

I really have no idea about how the LA will be settled in the end. I would have bet on Shamy in 4A up to a couple of weeks ago, now for me everything can happen. For the sake of conversation, it would be interesting how they could renovate 4B, if that actually end up being their place, maybe not right away at the end of the 5 weeks trial, but eventually. I don't think the living room needs so many renovations, once you replace Penny's "memorabilia" with Sheldon's and Amy's one. I think it's safe to say that Sheldon's couch will always stay in 4A, because that's where the gang is going to hang out. Maybe the bedroom is too girlish and definitely not Amy's style, so I see them changing a lot of stuff there.

[A Shamy gal]

Just now, Jonny said:

I agree I think Shamy will live together but I think there may be trouble ahead if they end up in 4B. Sheldon is going to have to give up a lot to stay in 4B, but maybe he will surprise us and for his love of Amy be willing to do it. What's he going to do when he needs to work? Play some games? Watch tv on his spot?

But if Sheldon and Amy move into 4A what happens to the other bedroom, you want them to still share a bed. I guess they could come up with a storyline like Leonard stores his stuff there or they use it as an office or something.

It seems to me that Lenny could move to 4B and would be happy to and there would be less stuff to change. But we shall see.

I had an idea what they could do with the other bedroom if Shamy were to ever live in 4A.  That was for Amy to keep Sheldon out of for a period of time while she prepares a surprise for him.  This of course drives Sheldon mad as he tries to find out what she is doing in there.  Eventually she lets him in and he finds something like this -

[spidergirl]

Morning, beautiful people

 

Thanks for the Tr Lady in Red and the contribution from others. Your memories and notes are gold

I had to hold my breath when I started reading the TR and I am so happy for it  sounds like a good one.

So Sheldon  is clearly having urges, sure he does! Since The Opening night excitation that I was waiting for more clearance about Sheldon's sexual desire for Amy and the writters are doing great imo. Sheldon said he 'd give his genitals as a birthday gift to her but it kind of worked as an excuse for he took the step to the next level in their relationship, as he felt after the breaking up and reunion that was about time. He would not have sex with Amy just for please her, it 'd  please him too. But after one time only, he is getting to know that he would not take much longer for they do it again. Oh , oh, this is really sounds very much like something is going to happen on that front soon!

 I'm very curious  to learn more about Sheldon's background. It seems really insightful why he is oppressed about sex, why he is so hard on his mother as she could have a new relationship in her life and the explanation for  why he knocks the way he does and it kind of broke my heart as I read why he hates couples fighting.   Many questions about Sheldon's behavior are coming together and giving the need answers, love it!

 What I most loved to read about this tr storyline was how Sheldon is afraid of failing Amy. He strungles with emotions but he is trying and slowly he is getting there to open up to Amy and their communication improve. She gets frustrated but she 'd eventually understand all of his fears, and hers too, as she has some issues yet to discuss and work on. So happy they are really working about their experience of living together

It was nice to see Leonard helping Amy to handle with Sheldon's la issues. I think they have potencial for being good friends as Penny and Sheldon are, you know. I hope they can develop more that part this season.

 

""Amy Farah Fowler, will you share this toothbrush holder with me?"  They put their toothbrushes into the holder and hug.  "

 

Oh boy, I completely melted here!!

This is so shamy romantic, better than a ring! Okay, better at this moment, I want the ring moment too!  

I just hope Gerard is out of their sight and was on the list things Amy lost in her apartment pipe problem!

 

Howardette seems to have a nice storyline, cant wait to see that either .

Raj... it is good that terrible idea from start to finish of the two girls in his life is over. However I 'd like to see them kinking his ass though!

This season really seems going to be a good one!

 

Edited September 21, 2016 by spidergirl

[shamour]

Hello everyone! I know this should be a supportive thread, but I need to be convinced a bit that this really could be a nice episode for Shamy, so please help me... I was so devastated reading Sheldon's "hubba hubba" comment about OTHER WOMEN (NOT AMY!) and that he actually went with Penny to look for other women and that Penny supported him in this decision and even pointed out other women to him! The part that he once again confided in Penny, not Amy, was not even that bad for me in comparison to the rest. Yes, I loved that they finally had him admit being a sexual creature like the rest of mankind, but why did they have to make him so ordinary as to ogle other women? I always had that (probably naive) image of him only being attracted to Amy, and now this! Do the writers want to point out again that they think Amy is not attractive in the common sense (I strongly disagree, btw). Why couldn't they make it about Amy and his eidetic memory for example, that once they became intimate those pictures of her come popping up in his head, and that he has urges for HER? That's an absolute no-go for me if they make Sheldon more sexual now and that this would mean he starts to be attracted to other women, ugh!

On the positive side, it was all very sweet that he didn't want to become like his father, and this really explained a lot to me about this awful once-a-year thing (and alas, Amy finally made it clear that they really did it only once, sniff...), so he fears he needs to maintain control of his urges or they would rule him and make him cheat on Amy like his father did. This makes perfect sense to me, but why oh why did he go with Penny then? Why didn't he just tell Amy this already months ago during one of their make-out sessions when she might have wondered why he stopped (yes that's still my head canon that they at least made out from time to time, we have proof of that in 10x04)? They still need to communicate more!

Finally, I'm glad that they talked in the end at least and I can't wait for the toothbrush line and that sweet hug! And there really seems to be some sexual tension going on between those two now, and I would love to see that it is Sheldon who caves first and admits he wants her, because I was a bit sad that he just complained he was ogled by Amy and not the other way round, because that seems to indicate again that Amy is not attractive, but on the other hand he probably wouldn't admit any ogling he did himself, lol! That might be the reason for the bathroom schedule, that he wouldn't run into a naked Amy, because then all hell might break loose:-))) So for this point I'm very optimistic that Amy stood her ground and that the schedule which was such an essential part of Leonard's and Sheldon's roommate agreement just vanished after 1-2 weeks already! Perhaps that's his way of explaining to Amy after having "given it to her" in the shower (to loosely quote Amy) that he just couldn't help himself as it was all due to her vixen ways and nullifying the bathroom schedule... I would love this to happen!

I hope my post wasn't too negative in the beginning, I just need some convincing that I'm wrong;-)

[nusspot]

5 minutes ago, shamour said:

Hello everyone! I know this should be a supportive thread, but I need to be convinced a bit that this really could be a nice episode for Shamy, so please help me... I was so devastated reading Sheldon's "hubba hubba" comment about OTHER WOMEN (NOT AMY!) and that he actually went with Penny to look for other women and that Penny supported him in this decision and even pointed out other women to him! The part that he once again confided in Penny, not Amy, was not even that bad for me in comparison to the rest. Yes, I loved that they finally had him admit being a sexual creature like the rest of mankind, but why did they have to make him so ordinary as to ogle other women? I always had that (probably naive) image of him only being attracted to Amy, and now this! Do the writers want to point out again that they think Amy is not attractive in the common sense (I strongly disagree, btw). Why couldn't they make it about Amy and his eidetic memory for example, that once they became intimate those pictures of her come popping up in his head, and that he has urges for HER? That's an absolute no-go for me if they make Sheldon more sexual now and that this would mean he starts to be attracted to other women, ugh!

On the positive side, it was all very sweet that he didn't want to become like his father, and this really explained a lot to me about this awful once-a-year thing (and alas, Amy finally made it clear that they really did it only once, sniff...), so he fears he needs to maintain control of his urges or they would rule him and make him cheat on Amy like his father did. This makes perfect sense to me, but why oh why did he go with Penny then? Why didn't he just tell Amy this already months ago during one of their make-out sessions when she might have wondered why he stopped (yes that's still my head canon that they at least made out from time to time, we have proof of that in 10x04)? They still need to communicate more!

Finally, I'm glad that they talked in the end at least and I can't wait for the toothbrush line and that sweet hug! And there really seems to be some sexual tension going on between those two now, and I would love to see that it is Sheldon who caves first and admits he wants her, because I was a bit sad that he just complained he was ogled by Amy and not the other way round, because that seems to indicate again that Amy is not attractive, but on the other hand he probably wouldn't admit any ogling he did himself, lol! That might be the reason for the bathroom schedule, that he wouldn't run into a naked Amy, because then all hell might break loose:-))) So for this point I'm very optimistic that Amy stood her ground and that the schedule which was such an essential part of Leonard's and Sheldon's roommate agreement just vanished after 1-2 weeks already! Perhaps that's his way of explaining to Amy after having "given it to her" in the shower (to loosely quote Amy) that he just couldn't help himself as it was all due to her vixen ways and nullifying the bathroom schedule... I would love this to happen!

I hope my post wasn't too negative in the beginning, I just need some convincing that I'm wrong;-)

@April , you're up!

[Lady in Red]

One possibIlity is that you behave the way you were raised.  Sheldon was set a terrible example by his parents, and it will take some work on his part to act differently towards Amy, than his father behaved towards his mother.

[A Shamy gal]

8 minutes ago, shamour said:

Hello everyone! I know this should be a supportive thread, but I need to be convinced a bit that this really could be a nice episode for Shamy, so please help me... I was so devastated reading Sheldon's "hubba hubba" comment about OTHER WOMEN (NOT AMY!) and that he actually went with Penny to look for other women and that Penny supported him in this decision and even pointed out other women to him! The part that he once again confided in Penny, not Amy, was not even that bad for me in comparison to the rest. Yes, I loved that they finally had him admit being a sexual creature like the rest of mankind, but why did they have to make him so ordinary as to ogle other women? I always had that (probably naive) image of him only being attracted to Amy, and now this! Do the writers want to point out again that they think Amy is not attractive in the common sense (I strongly disagree, btw). Why couldn't they make it about Amy and his eidetic memory for example, that once they became intimate those pictures of her come popping up in his head, and that he has urges for HER? That's an absolute no-go for me if they make Sheldon more sexual now and that this would mean he starts to be attracted to other women, ugh!

On the positive side, it was all very sweet that he didn't want to become like his father, and this really explained a lot to me about this awful once-a-year thing (and alas, Amy finally made it clear that they really did it only once, sniff...), so he fears he needs to maintain control of his urges or they would rule him and make him cheat on Amy like his father did. This makes perfect sense to me, but why oh why did he go with Penny then? Why didn't he just tell Amy this already months ago during one of their make-out sessions when she might have wondered why he stopped (yes that's still my head canon that they at least made out from time to time, we have proof of that in 10x04)? They still need to communicate more!

Finally, I'm glad that they talked in the end at least and I can't wait for the toothbrush line and that sweet hug! And there really seems to be some sexual tension going on between those two now, and I would love to see that it is Sheldon who caves first and admits he wants her, because I was a bit sad that he just complained he was ogled by Amy and not the other way round, because that seems to indicate again that Amy is not attractive, but on the other hand he probably wouldn't admit any ogling he did himself, lol! That might be the reason for the bathroom schedule, that he wouldn't run into a naked Amy, because then all hell might break loose:-))) So for this point I'm very optimistic that Amy stood her ground and that the schedule which was such an essential part of Leonard's and Sheldon's roommate agreement just vanished after 1-2 weeks already! Perhaps that's his way of explaining to Amy after having "given it to her" in the shower (to loosely quote Amy) that he just couldn't help himself as it was all due to her vixen ways and nullifying the bathroom schedule... I would love this to happen!

I hope my post wasn't too negative in the beginning, I just need some convincing that I'm wrong;-)

Wasn't the reason that Sheldon went with Penny was because Lenny thought it was better to separate Shamy for a while so they could both calm down? 

As for Penny pointing out women to Sheldon, that was after he admitted sexual Sheldon had been awakened wasn't it?  Penny pointing out attractive women to Sheldon could be out of curiosity and trying to find out what type of woman he does find attractive.  I strongly suspect that the women Penny was pointing out to him were the stereotypical pretty types, to which he said none were suitable.  To me that suggests his type is Amy. 

Also when they get back home, he does say to Amy he hadn't meant what he said about dating other women.  It was probably something he heard his father say to his mother when they were fighting.

[mirs1]

30 minutes ago, shamour said:

Hello everyone! I know this should be a supportive thread, but I need to be convinced a bit that this really could be a nice episode for Shamy, so please help me... I was so devastated reading Sheldon's "hubba hubba" comment about OTHER WOMEN (NOT AMY!) and that he actually went with Penny to look for other women and that Penny supported him in this decision and even pointed out other women to him! The part that he once again confided in Penny, not Amy, was not even that bad for me in comparison to the rest. Yes, I loved that they finally had him admit being a sexual creature like the rest of mankind, but why did they have to make him so ordinary as to ogle other women? I always had that (probably naive) image of him only being attracted to Amy, and now this! Do the writers want to point out again that they think Amy is not attractive in the common sense (I strongly disagree, btw). Why couldn't they make it about Amy and his eidetic memory for example, that once they became intimate those pictures of her come popping up in his head, and that he has urges for HER? That's an absolute no-go for me if they make Sheldon more sexual now and that this would mean he starts to be attracted to other women, ugh!

I'm not 100% convinced of that part too TBH, I  need to see how it plays on screen. Anyway, from my understanding up to now reading the two TRs, apparently Sheldon says Amy he wants to date other women not because he really wants to, but because he wants her to be prepared in case their relationship turns out the way his parents' marriage did and he starts cheating on her, since that's what his father did and that was his "role model" in a way. It's a bit contorted, but that's how our boy's brain work. Penny didn't took Sheldon out to get girls, Lenny just decided it was better for Sheldon and Amy to be set apart while they were angry at each other. Then in the ice-cream parlour I guess she started pointing out girls, which he didn't find attractive at all. At the end of the episode, Sheldon confesses Amy he never intended to cheat on her, all the fighting is just him trying to cope with another unsettling childhood memory. 

Edited September 21, 2016 by mirs1

[April]

7 minutes ago, shamour said:

Hello everyone! I know this should be a supportive thread, but I need to be convinced a bit that this really could be a nice episode for Shamy, so please help me...

[snip for length]

I hope my post wasn't too negative in the beginning, I just need some convincing that I'm wrong;-)

Oh don't worry, I had the same confusion this morning after reading the first TR. But after reading the other TR and clarification (see post above) it makes more sense.

What Sheldon is doing with his bickering and pretending to wanting to date other women is testing Amy's boundaries cause he's coming from a broken home and that's all he knows about marriage. In his sweet but backwards thinking way he wants to prepare Amy for the worst cause he fears he'll become just like his dad and he worries that he'll hurt her in the same way and she wouldn't be able to take it. And this kinda goes hand in hand with what we speculated about earlier in this thread that this experiment is a way for him to test Amy if she can take him at his worst. Another scene that seems so much more meaningful now is at the wedding when he asks Mary about people crying and she replies "They're practising for later." and there's just that haunted look on his face. I didn't know what to do of it then but it makes sense now. So naturally he can't talk to Amy cause he's stuck in this kind of mindset and it takes Penny quite a bit to get him out of this funk it seems. All those comments about him suddenly fancying other women are all nonsense - and he admits as much in the end to Amy.

I do think though there's a struggle in him because of all the baggage he has from his parents' terrible marriage. We've known for a long time he can't stand the fighting and how his parents were awful towards each other. Now we find out he caught his dad cheating on his mother and apparently that's where the triple knock came from. For all that people are quick to diagnose Sheldon with some sort of disorder the show has always gone out of its way to offer an explanation that is rather on the nurture than nature side of things. So what you get is a highly intelligent kid like Sheldon being stuck in a broken home with an alcoholic father who's cheating on his wife, a mother who's believing in an invisible guy living in the sky praying that somehow everything will get better, and siblings that are bullying him to the point where he shuts his emotions off because that's easier than dealing with all the hurt in his life, not to mention that thanks to his intelligence he went through his education in fast forward mode and never had the experience of growing up with peers his age. And it's no wonder that Sheldon has such a hard time understanding social interactions, yet alone relationships, and a skewed idea about sexuality and people giving in to their urges.

I don't know if the writers will outright say it but I think that might all just play part into why he's so hesitant about letting go of all his self restraint with Amy. I agree with you that it makes a lot of sense that he might see the idea of letting his urges get the better of him mean that he's becoming like his father. In the end though letting go of the bathroom schedule and sharing the tooth brush holder are both such huge and small things for him to compromise on that it looks like he is starting to relax a little here.

Hope that makes sense.

[nusspot]

About the tag, I find it really sweet and all is good in the end, so that really matters to me. Practicing the proposal right there, Sheldon? Haha. The writers will find a way to tease the proposal very often this season. Seriously, "Amy Farrah Fowler, will you [...]?". And finally some touching. Two hugs in a row? Whaaaa. I wonder if those hugs are the Mars Colonization kind or the Earworm Reverberation kind. Either way, sounds cute.

Thanks, @Lady in Red, for the TR! Really appreciate it!

[camelliayao]

48 minutes ago, Lady in Red said:

One possibIlity is that you behave the way you were raised.  Sheldon was set a terrible example by his parents, and it will take some work on his part to act differently towards Amy, than his father behaved towards his mother.

Thanks so much for your report. I have two questions if it's not too much trouble. First, later when Sheldon was shown other "hot girls", did he find them hot? What were the reasons that he found them "unsuitable"? Second, when Sheldon said he now went hubba-hubba when seeing pretty women, was it like a serious line or was it like he was exaggerating? 'Cause I have trouble accepting that Sheldon now has sexual desires for any hot girl...

[shamour]

Thank you so much Lady in Red, A Shamy gal, mirs1 and April for helping me sorting this mess out, it really makes more sense to me now. April, you truly deserve the title of a ship counsellor!:-)