[Spoilers] Lenny:Season 10

[No Regrets]

I didn't mind the asthma inhaler bit. In fact I thought it was sweet and they've felt more like Lenny to me than they have in a while. It reminded me of Penny keeping Leonard's asthma inhaler (yes, even though that technically was Leonard's imagination). It just makes sense to me that that's something Penny would find adorable. 

[Desdemona]

11 hours ago, luminous said:

After some nice PM's, a short, but refreshing nap and fooling around with my gf, I'm in a good mood again. It's 5.10 AM over here, and I'm going to work soon. I just watched "The Birthday Synchronicity" and for everyone who's interested here's a nice Lenny gif from that episode.

Aww that was hot and lovely! I love how Leonard stroked Penny´s upper thigh gently (small gesture, but sexy!) If Raj hadn´t interrupted them, Penny would have laid down, so Leonard could climb on top of her, that´s at least how my dirty mind interprets Penny´s pulling Leonard closer and Leonard´s leaning over, because he doesn´t want to interrupt the kiss as they had to because Raj interrupted them (how dare you interrupt every couple in this episode Raj, I´ll punish you! You deserve to be and )

50 minutes ago, FileXxX said:

There's nothing you can do about asthma. I know because I have it. Doing sports might improve your lung capacity and overall breathing, but that doesn't change the fact that you have asthma. It'll still trigger just as much. Especially when it's not tied to allergies (like Leonard's), there's not much you can do.

I´m a bit worried because of Leonard´s asthma, because in this episode they made a little bit too much jokes about asthma JMO. Can asthma get worse? Are there days, when you have a good day with less asthma problems and days with more asthma problems? And does asthma gets worse with age? Because in the past Leonard were out of breath after sex, but he seemed fine when he walked up and down the stairs, but now he walks the stairs up and down twice and is near to an asthma attack? Do we have to worry about Leonard because his asthma seems to get worse, or am I exaggerating and he´s just having a bad day with lots of asthma problems?

BTW I don´t find jokes about health problems funny at all.

 

Edited December 16, 2016 by Desdemona
Forgot a question mark

[hokie3457]

Desdemona,
Sometimes it seems they use Leonard's asthma as a plot device--a quick thing to go to and insert into an episode for either a joke or an "awwww" moment....

[Chrismo]

16 minutes ago, Desdemona said:

Aww that was hot and lovely! I love how Leonard stroked Penny´s upper thigh gently (small gesture, but sexy!) If Raj hadn´t interrupted them, Penny would have laid down, so Leonard could climb on top of her, that´s at least how my dirty mind interprets Penny´s pulling Leonard closer and Leonard´s leaning over, because he doesn´t want to interrupt the kiss as they had to because Raj interrupted them (how dare you interrupt every couple in this episode Raj, I´ll punish you! You deserve to be and )

I´m a bit worried because of Leonard´s asthma, because in this episode they made a little bit too much jokes about asthma JMO. Can asthma get worse? Are there days, when you have a good day with less asthma problems and days with more asthma problems? And does asthma gets worse with age? Because in the past Leonard were out of breath after sex, but he seemed fine when he walked up and down the stairs, but now he walks the stairs up and down twice and is near to an asthma attack? Do we have to worry about Leonard because his asthma seems to get worse, or am I exaggerating and he´s just having a bad day with lots of asthma problems?

BTW I don´t find jokes about health problems funny at all.

 

Ironically wasn't season 1 Sheldon was the one with asthma not Leonard?

Just now, hokie3457 said:

Desdemona,
Sometimes it seems they use Leonard's asthma as a plot device--a quick thing to go to and insert into an episode for either a joke or an "awwww" moment....

Wouldn't a lot of guys have breathing problems having sex with Penny?

[Guest]

15 minutes ago, Desdemona said:

I´m a bit worried because of Leonard´s asthma, because in this episode they made a little bit too much jokes about asthma JMO. Can asthma get worse? Are there days, when you have a good day with less asthma problems and days with more asthma problems? And does asthma gets worse with age? Because in the past Leonard were out of breath after sex, but he seemed fine when he walked up and down the stairs, but now he walks the stairs up and down twice and is near to an asthma attack? Do we have to worry about Leonard because his asthma seems to get worse, or am I exaggerating and he´s just having a bad day with lots of asthma problems. 

BTW I don´t find jokes about health problems funny at all.

 

As far as I know it can't get worse over time, but there are days where it's better or worse. Depends on the time of the year. But it's definitely not the kind of disease that slowly kills you. It's just there and you have to live with it. For example, for some people it's a lot better in winter because most allergies are gone, but for some it's worse because the cold air makes breathing a lot more difficult and that's what triggers their asthma.

As for Leonard, I think they're just exaggerating a little too much. 

[veejay]

1 hour ago, Chrismo said:

....

Wouldn't a lot of guys have breathing problems having sex with Penny?

LOL.
There is no "maybe" at all, Leonard.

Edited December 16, 2016 by veejay

[Desdemona]

16 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

Ironically wasn't season 1 Sheldon was the one with asthma not Leonard?

Wouldn't a lot of guys have breathing problems having sex with Penny?

I´m not sure as far as I remember not, but I would have to watch season 1 again to be sure.

You are right, they would, but not only breathing problems, but cardiac problems. If Leonard dies one day, than hopefully at the age of 100, on top of or under a naked Penny. That would be a nice way to die. IMO

There´s a sentence that made me happy.

Leonard said it in the hospital when they were talking about the things they have achieved so far.

"I made my peace with my parents!" I hope this means we don´t get to see Leonard begging for his mother´s attention and acceptance anymore.

24 minutes ago, hokie3457 said:

Desdemona,
Sometimes it seems they use Leonard's asthma as a plot device--a quick thing to go to and insert into an episode for either a joke or an "awwww" moment....

I prefer the "awww" moments. I don´t mind seeing Leonard laying in bed with Penny breathless, because they had great sex. I just have a hard time seeing Leonard gasping for breath, while Penny walks towards him all worried as well.

I´m sorry, that I can´t give more likes, but I´ve spent mine for today!

[Chrismo]

4 minutes ago, Desdemona said:

I´m not sure as far as I remember not, but I would have to watch season 1 again to be sure.

 

season1 episode 3. Fuzzy boots. Leonard thought Penny rejected him. He was going to get cats. Took into consideration Sheldon's asthma.

[Desdemona]

19 minutes ago, FileXxX said:

As far as I know it can't get worse over time, but there are days where it's better or worse. Depends on the time of the year. But it's definitely not the kind of disease that slowly kills you. It's just there and you have to live with it. For example, for some people it's a lot better in winter because most allergies are gone, but for some it's worse because the cold air makes breathing a lot more difficult and that's what triggers their asthma.

As for Leonard, I think they're just exaggerating a little too much. 

Ok, thanks a lot for the info FileXxX!

I feel relieved that the writers are just exaggerating. Or maybe Leonard is the one, because he´s hoping to get Penny´s attention, so he spends the day, with his head on her chest, while she strokes trough his hair and says: "My poor sweetie!"

2 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

season1 episode 3. Fuzzy boots. Leonard thought Penny rejected him. He was going to get cats. Took into consideration Sheldon's asthma.

Thank you Chrismo! See, I totally forgot that one. Writers and their inconsistency.

Edited December 16, 2016 by Desdemona

[JohnPhD]

OT, but wrt Leonard's Asthma: when he was with Priya he told her he could get a research post in "New Delhi" to be with her. Delhi is extremely polluted and I wouldn't fancy L's chances there with his asthma. Which would show Priya that he hadn't really thought through what he was saying, or looked into the question. But I doubt if the writers know that, since they don't even know the capital of India is Delhi (of which ND is a part).

 

[Zhalen565]

56 minutes ago, FileXxX said:

As far as I know it can't get worse over time, but there are days where it's better or worse. Depends on the time of the year. But it's definitely not the kind of disease that slowly kills you. It's just there and you have to live with it. For example, for some people it's a lot better in winter because most allergies are gone, but for some it's worse because the cold air makes breathing a lot more difficult and that's what triggers their asthma.

As for Leonard, I think they're just exaggerating a little too much. 

My post from discussion thread

t's difficult, it can be hereditary which I think it's supposed to be in Leonard's case, or can be triggered by exposure to certain influences, pollens, tobacco smoke, or in my case chemicals ((specifically) isocyanates, later in life.  some who are born with it can lose sensitivity to the triggers so it gets easier, but there is always a risk as specifically it's inflammation of the air ways that causes them to constrict thus difficulty breathing. Mine is well managed by a twice daily Preventer inhaler but I do have to carry the Reliever with me at all times, in fact I have them dotted around everywhere in the house, plus one on my person, one my car, one in my wife's car and bag.

This is probably why I relate to Leonard so much, it's relatively accurate, even his counting (should be 10 seconds). Works immediately but gets better over the next 20 to 30 minutes.  Yep in Recombination their 25 - 30 minutes was relevant.

Actualy it's this kind of accuracy on these things that I liked about the show, which is why inconsistencies irk me so much nowadays.

It normally doesn't get worse but  it can make simple chest infections very serious as you already have lung issues, 39 years on inhalers, believe me you plan a lot round those little cannisters

[5Mississippis]

52 minutes ago, Desdemona said:

I´m not sure as far as I remember not, but I would have to watch season 1 again to be sure.

You are right, they would, but not only breathing problems, but cardiac problems. If Leonard dies one day, than hopefully at the age of 100, on top of or under a naked Penny. That would be a nice way to die. IMO

There´s a sentence that made me happy.

Leonard said it in the hospital when they were talking about the things they have achieved so far.

"I made my peace with my parents!" I hope this means we don´t get to see Leonard begging for his mother´s attention and acceptance anymore.

I prefer the "awww" moments. I don´t mind seeing Leonard laying in bed with Penny breathless, because they had great sex. I just have a hard time seeing Leonard gasping for breath, while Penny walks towards him all worried as well.

I´m sorry, that I can´t give more likes, but I´ve spent mine for today!

I seem to be in the minority here, but I didn't care for the episode at all. I didn't have one single laugh. I always love seeing Althea the nurse and I did like that Leonard and Penny had some SHORT and sweet moments. That was very nice to see. 

BUT --

For me, the headline of this episode was Leonard's little thrown out comment when they were in the waiting room. I didn't expect it and my heart nearly broke in joy. Like Desdemona mentioned, I too truly hope we don't see Leonard ever again groveling for his mother's acceptance. I hope we see that he has moved past his emotionally neglected, abusive childhood and, on some level, has realized his worth, despite Bev's relentless pounding of his psyche. I'm just remembering now too that Alfred said some very nice about Leonard in 10.1 and Bev did agree with her ex so maybe she has realized too, that Leonard blossomed wonderfully in spite of her. 

It was a little tiny unadorned moment that I truly hope turns out to be true. 

[hokie3457]

2 minutes ago, 5Mississippis said:

I seem to be in the minority here, but I didn't care for the episode at all. I didn't have one single laugh. I always love seeing Althea the nurse and I did like that Leonard and Penny had some SHORT and sweet moments. That was very nice to see. 

BUT --

For me, the headline of this episode was Leonard's little thrown out comment when they were in the waiting room. I didn't expect it and my heart nearly broke in joy. Like Desdemona mentioned, I too truly hope we don't see Leonard ever again groveling for his mother's acceptance. I hope we see that he has moved past his emotionally neglected, abusive childhood and, on some level, has realized his worth, despite Bev's relentless pounding of his psyche. I'm just remembering now too that Alfred said some very nice about Leonard in 10.1 and Bev did agree with her ex so maybe she has realized too, that Leonard blossomed wonderfully in spite of her. 

It was a little tiny unadorned moment that I truly hope turns out to be true. 

5Miss, I actually cringed just then waiting for the typical Sheldon-degrading-to-Leonard reply that would have taken the air out of Leonard's statement. Thankfully it did not occur and we have that moment.

[john2p]

3 hours ago, FileXxX said:

There's nothing you can do about asthma. I know because I have it. Doing sports might improve your lung capacity and overall breathing, but that doesn't change the fact that you have asthma. It'll still trigger just as much. Especially when it's not tied to allergies (like Leonard's), there's not much you can do.

Yes thanks, someone else mentioned it already to me. So my observation was wrong. I didn´t mean asthma could be healed, maybe try to get it more under control. But I understand that even that is very hard to achieve. 

2 hours ago, Chrismo said:

Ironically wasn't season 1 Sheldon was the one with asthma not Leonard?

Wouldn't a lot of guys have breathing problems having sex with Penny?

That´s my quote of the day. Awesome comment Chrismo and so true. Certainly I will have the breathing problems, and not only with sex with Penny. She is simply breathetaking. So Leonard is perfectly healthy :P.

Edited December 16, 2016 by john2p

[john2p]

Hi fellow Lenny´s I felt the urge to explain something. And especially Luminous. Because he was worried about how things went on our shipzone. Because many were complaining and were being negative about our lovely couple. And I am certainly one of them. I am relative new here and still have to find my way. But I think it´s good to know for you all, that you have to take me not very seriously. Especially not my negative side. Take a lot of salt and another one, than you will have my real opinion ;). Anyhow as noticed I am a fierced Lenny lover, and always will be. But my love is sometimes anxtious and I project that sometimes too negative and too impulsive, due to my ADHD. By that I am very all or nothing in my behaviour. Nothing to worry about. Where many recognize themselves in Leonard, I do mostly in Penny. Not the feminine side and her beauty of course :P. But mostly her behaviour, which is likely all or nothing, impulsive, chaotic, assosiative thinking and most of all passionate for love. Especially in the first three seasons. And I can resemble myself in the fact that, this behaviour is becoming lessing, because she is in a safe haven with Leonard. That´s why I am hypersensitive if that is in danger. Though I know there aren´t any real problems anymore they can´t conquer. That´s why I had big troubles with the Sheldon Agreement, because I don´t think they need that as a solution. But I have accepted that as a fact for the sake of humor. And as the last episode showed, it always turns different as it looks like. So if I react negatively or extremely positive, take the context above and hopefully you understand my bipolair mood :). But always keep in mind I really love our Lenny and deep in my heart I know they are the best couple who are in a very good place. Imo they aren´t the endgame, they way passed it , if you know what I mean :).

Edited December 16, 2016 by john2p

[luminous]

My concern last night simply was, that I had the feeling that the number of non-supportive postings (IMO) were getting out of hand, and if I would post something positive or supportive it would get lost in the amount of non-supportive postings. That it would be ignored or diminished by its surroundings so to say. I know that isn't the case, but it was the feeling I had. Add to this the feeling (just the feeling!) of being in the wrong place, being not welcome right now, because it's against my nature to complain and vent in a place I feel safe and see as the place to express my positive thoughts, my love and support for my favorite couple, when it seems to be the order of the day to complain and vent.

Having said that, I would like to point out that this thread was created for supportive statements though. Just have a look at the first posting of this thread:

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This is the Lenny Season 10 discussion topic. Spoilers are allowed.  As this is a Ship Zone, Special Rules apply.  Basically, supportive statements about Leonard, Penny, or Lenny, in season 10, are allowed here.  In depth discussion or negative statements of other ships, members of ships is not allowed, or discussion about other seasons  should go into either the season discussion topic, the Shipping Lanes topic or the specific season or non-season 10 discussion.  

But I guess the magic word is basically, which probably means deviations in a certain frame are allowed too.

Please also note: Not under any circumstances I want you to see my concerns as a try to prevent non-supportive statements or complaints. Not at all! Everybody has the right to complain, to vent and/or to state his/her point of view. But if that turns out to be non-supportive I think we have other and better places for such postings. Either the discussion thread or the Shipping Lanes thread.

 

Edited December 16, 2016 by luminous

[SRAM]

I'm going to look at all that is happening in a positive way.  I think the show has neglected Penny doing something meaningful in her life (her finding her soulmate not counting) so her telling Leonard previously about being unhappy in her sales job, her big confession to Dr Gallo, being defensive about her being an actress in the episode last night, and the upcoming episode about her feeling taken for granted means the writers are planning to address that soon.  So I'm really hoping we are looking at the possibility that the writers are building up a situation to give Penny a change in her career, something she can be proud of in her life (again besides her being married to the perfect man for her).

[Chrismo]

7 minutes ago, SRAM said:

I'm going to look at all that is happening in a positive way.  I think the show has neglected Penny doing something meaningful in her life (her finding her soulmate not counting) so her telling Leonard previously about being unhappy in her sales job, her big confession to Dr Gallo, being defensive about her being an actress in the episode last night, and the upcoming episode about her feeling taken for granted means the writers are planning to address that soon.  So I'm really hoping we are looking at the possibility that the writers are building up a situation to give Penny a change in her career, something she can be proud of in her life (again besides her being married to the perfect man for her).

Everyone there knew she had been a struggling actress. If he had just said actress I don't think she would of said anything.

[hokie3457]

Loved that short time on the sofa last night!  Did anyone notice exactly where our good Doctor is seated????

[luminous]

Best Lenny kiss in awhile IMO

[Chrismo]

2 minutes ago, hokie3457 said:

Loved that short time on the sofa last night!  Did anyone notice exactly where our good Doctor is seated????

Yes, Though I would preferred seeing it in the bedroom. Especially after the nausea I got seeing the other couple in the bedroom.

[Strawberry PopTart Fan]

1 hour ago, luminous said:

My concern last night simply was, that I had the feeling that the number of non-supportive postings (IMO) were getting out of hand, and if I would post something positive or supportive it would get lost in the amount of non-supportive postings. That it would be ignored or diminished by its surroundings so to say. I know that isn't the case, but it was the feeling I had. Add to this the feeling (just the feeling!) of being in the wrong place, being not welcome right now, because it's against my nature to complain and vent in a place I feel safe and see as the place to express my positive thoughts, my love and support for my favorite couple, when it seems to be the order of the day to complain and vent.

Having said that, I would like to point out that this thread was created for supportive statements though. Just have a look at the first posting of this thread:

But I guess the magic word is basically, which probably means deviations in a certain frame are allowed too.

Please also note: Not under any circumstances I want you to see my concerns as a try to prevent non-supportive statements or complaints. Not at all! Everybody has the right to complain, to vent and/or to state his/her point of view. But if that turns out to be non-supportive I think we have other and better places for such postings. Either the discussion thread or the Shipping Lanes thread.

 

IMO unhappy responses to TRs or episodes on this thread usually come from a place of very deep and passionate love for Lenny. They are emotional reactions, and sometimes overreactions to perceived  threats or insults to the couple we are invested in and  love. I don't always agree but I don't usually see them as non-supportive but as passionately concerned, maybe desperately disappointed. Sometimes reading another poster's different take on a situation may help the upset poster see the situation from another angle, get another perspective and come to terms with their issue a bit better and have that "Oh yeah. OK. Maybe. Didn't see it that way at first" moment. At least, that has been my experience.

That  was so evident to me during the boat kiss debacle when just about everyone was struggling with it. Lots of angst, lots of opinions, lots of interpretations, anger, disbelief, outrage, sadness. I, for one, was grateful for the Lenny Forum as a safe place to kick all of that around. It felt good to know that others were struggling with it too and it helped to not feel alone with it.

So what I'm trying to say is  I think it's possible to be unhappy about something and still be a very passionate Lenny supporter and sometimes we express our support in different ways from different perspectives and different personalities and different life experiences. But still the common ground is that deep and passionate love for this endearing couple.

1 hour ago, luminous said:

Best Lenny kiss in awhile IMO

 

Edited December 16, 2016 by Strawberry PopTart Fan

[Guest]

1 hour ago, luminous said:

Best Lenny kiss in awhile IMO

Definitely one of the hottest in a long while.  

[Swedish Chef]

1 hour ago, luminous said:

Best Lenny kiss in awhile IMO

Always nice to see Lenny make out, it's a shame that it didn't lead to some hot bed scenes. 

[luminous]

31 minutes ago, Strawberry PopTart Fan said:

So what I'm trying to say is  I think it's possible to be unhappy about something and still be a very passionate Lenny supporter and sometimes we express our support in different ways from different perspectives and different personalities and different life experiences. But still the common ground is that deep and passionate love for this endearing couple.

I will express my support and my deep and passionate love for this endearing couple by posting only Lenny goodness from now on.

Here we go!

Edited December 16, 2016 by luminous