Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 11

[Stephen Hawking]

5 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

We know Amy has a stack of dresses with cap sleeves left over from her first job as maid of honor because they all died.

Yes, as Amy pointed out:-

Check it out, still in the bags. The gowns, not the bridesmaids.

[joyceraye]

46 minutes ago, spidergirl said:

The proposal is behind Adhesive right now...this means many shamies had not already voted! Come on, guys! We know Amy's answer , let's make the episode get a special place in tbbt history, like ON got for obvious reasons!

Is it possible some shamies didn't like 10/24 ?  We saw a lot of angst and aggression,not to mention negative motives even behind the supportiveness. I still voted for it because it was funny although I couldn't make head or tail of it all.

[Stephen Hawking]

8 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

Incidentally I didn't think Penny's and Amy's dresses were ugly.

I agree.

 

[spidergirl]

3 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

Is it possible some shamies didn't like 10/24 ?  We saw a lot of angst and aggression,not to mention negative motives even behind the supportiveness. I still voted for it because it was funny although I couldn't make head or tail of it all.

Of course it is possible, I myself have not Long distance among my favourites episodes from the s10 and from the show so far. However I prefer it to Adhesive which is overated imo. I only said my opinion , I did not say everyone here must vote in my voting choice.

[shamyarmy2016]

47 minutes ago, Gbb said:

No, Maid of Honor is unmarried, Matron of Honor is married. Same position; the title just changes based on the status of the woman involved.

I think penny should be the matron for amy and leonard is the best man for Sheldon we should meet Sheldon's older brother George and amy should meet missy

[Gbb]

10 minutes ago, shamyarmy2016 said:

I think penny should be the matron for amy and leonard is the best man for Sheldon we should meet Sheldon's older brother George and amy should meet missy

It's possible Amy's already met Missy. We'd never heard them mention Penny meeting Leonard's father until their wedding redo when she said something like "I haven't seen him since the divorce" to let us know it had happened off-screen.

[Die Zimtzicke]

2 hours ago, shamyarmy2016 said:

I think penny should be the matron for amy and leonard is the best man for Sheldon we should meet Sheldon's older brother George and amy should meet missy

I'd love to see Missy in the wedding party.

[joyceraye]

I have been wondering what Ramona made of Sheldon's question : did she perhaps think for a brief moment he was going to say what she wanted to hear ? 

 What was it she thought she was saying with that kiss ?

Did she mean, 'Don't worry about the problems. We won't always be colleagues.' ?

Freeze-frame on her face when he's walking out of the room. The acting we get in this show is superb.

[joyceraye]

5 hours ago, Gbb said:

It's possible Amy's already met Missy. We'd never heard them mention Penny meeting Leonard's father until their wedding redo when she said something like "I haven't seen him since the divorce" to let us know it had happened off-screen.

I think they've probably met. Even supposing Christmas 2016 was Amy's first visit to Casa Cooper, she's bound to have interacted with the rest of the family over the holiday. We know Sheldon visited Missy when his nephew was a toddler and bearing in mind what he said when he got home after the birth, he might have taken Amy with him then so that he had someone to talk to.

3 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I'd love to see Missy in the wedding party.

I hope she's there. What exactly is the wedding party ? I've heard the term before but I'm unclear as to the definition. There seems to be a difference between 'at the wedding' and 'in the wedding' from what I've heard of conversations in American podcasts.

[vonmar]

3 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

I hope she's there. What exactly is the wedding party ? I've heard the term before but I'm unclear as to the definition. There seems to be a difference between 'at the wedding' and 'in the wedding' from what I've heard of conversations in American podcasts.

The "wedding party" stands up as witnesses for the groom as a best man and groomsmen and for the bride as a maid/matron of honor and bridesmaids.  These people are considered to be "in the wedding".  The number of people involved can be very small or quite numerous depending on how elaborate the wedding is.

If you are simply an invited guest who attends the exchange of vows and then the reception afterward, you are "at the wedding".  You have no role other than attending and sharing in the celebration. 

[joyceraye]

27 minutes ago, vonmar said:

The "wedding party" stands up as witnesses for the groom as a best man and groomsmen and for the bride as a maid/matron of honor and bridesmaids.  These people are considered to be "in the wedding".  The number of people involved can be very small or quite numerous depending on how elaborate the wedding is.

If you are simply an invited guest who attends the exchange of vows and then the reception afterward, you are "at the wedding".  You have no role other than attending and sharing in the celebration. 

Thank you. Mystery solved. 

[Stephen Hawking]

17 hours ago, joyceraye said:

Is it possible some shamies didn't like 10/24 ?

That's what I was getting at.

Just because LDD isn't winning, doesn't necessarily mean that "many shamies had not already voted".

It could simply mean that, many Shamies have voted, but a lot of them decided (shock, horror  ) not to vote for LDD.

[spidergirl]

3 hours ago, Stephen Hawking said:

That's what I was getting at.

Just because LDD isn't winning, doesn't necessarily mean that "many shamies had not already voted".

It could simply mean that, many Shamies have voted, but a lot of them decided (shock, horror  ) not to vote for LDD.

Even you used an emoji, I dont like the tone you are using to talk about my opinion which I  have the right of have it.  No , it was not a schock or a horror, that's my opinion as many opinions you shared that I did not agree with and I did not  try to diminish them here. For me this talk is done.

Edited August 19, 2017 by spidergirl
Two words replaced

[Stephen Hawking]

1 minute ago, spidergirl said:

I dont like the tone you are using to talk about my opinion which I  have the right of have it.

Except you didn't voice an opinion. You made a statement.

"The proposal is behind Adhesive right now...this means many shamies had not already voted!"

That fact Adhesive Duck was ahead, is not proof (or even evidence) that "many shamies had not already voted".

It may be that they hadn't voted, but it may also be that many shamies had voted, but choose to vote for Adhesive Duck instead.

[shamyarmy2016]

13 hours ago, joyceraye said:

I think they've probably met. Even supposing Christmas 2016 was Amy's first visit to Casa Cooper, she's bound to have interacted with the rest of the family over the holiday. We know Sheldon visited Missy when his nephew was a toddler and bearing in mind what he said when he got home after the birth, he might have taken Amy with him then so that he had someone to talk to.

I hope she's there. What exactly is the wedding party ? I've heard the term before but I'm unclear as to the definition. There seems to be a difference between 'at the wedding' and 'in the wedding' from what I've heard of conversations in American podcasts.

a wedding party is like the reception where everyone paries and dances after the couple take their vows and their first dance

[Capt. Hilts]

18 minutes ago, shamyarmy2016 said:

a wedding party is like the reception where everyone paries and dances after the couple take their vows and their first dance

No.  'The wedding party' is a collective reference to those people who participate in the wedding ceremony.  

The wedding party is a subset of all the people at the wedding.  

Everyone else is merely/only attending the wedding.

It's a confusing use of language.

Edited August 19, 2017 by Capt. Hilts

[joyceraye]

38 minutes ago, Capt. Hilts said:

No.  'The wedding party' is a collective reference to those people who participate in the wedding ceremony.  

The wedding party is a subset of all the people at the wedding.  

Everyone else is merely/only attending the wedding.

It's a confusing use of language.

So that's the bride and groom, the bride's father or whoever's giving her away,the officiant, the best man and a bridesmaid  or whichever attendant holds the bride's flowers during the vows, and who sign the register ? 

If Amy was getting married in a CofE church  at 'the altar' she'd have her father, Penny, Bernadette, Missy, Sheldon's nephew and perhaps a niece or other nephew of Sheldon's and Sheldon would have Leonard. They might all sit down during the vows and then her father or whichever bridesmaid held them would give her the flowers back and they'd go into the vestry to register the marriage with both mothers and someone representing Sheldon's father.

They come out of the vestry after the registration procedure with Amy on Sheldon's arm, her father on Mary's arm, his father's rep on Mrs Fowler's arm, a bridesmaid on Leonard's arm etc to signify the new relationship of the two families to each other. I gather they don't usually do this bit in the USA.  Some friends of mine whose son was marrying an American lady explained it to the bride's relatives and they did it in their church because they thought it was a nice idea. This sort of thing is only a tradition BTW. All that's legally required is  the couple, a priest and two witnesses. If either party is underage they can produce a letter from a parent giving consent.

Edited August 19, 2017 by joyceraye

[vonmar]

18 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

So that's the bride and groom, the bride's father or whoever's giving her away,the officiant, the best man and a bridesmaid  or whichever attendant holds the flowers and who sign the register ?

Anyone who has an active role in the ceremony is a member of the "wedding party".  Everyone else is referred to as "wedding guests".

[Capt. Hilts]

32 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

So that's the bride and groom, the bride's father or whoever's giving her away,the officiant, the best man and a bridesmaid  or whichever attendant holds the bride's flowers during the vows, and who sign the register ? 

If Amy was getting married in a CofE church  at 'the altar' she'd have her father, Penny, Bernadette, Missy, Sheldon's nephew and perhaps a niece or other nephew of Sheldon's and Sheldon would have Leonard. They might all sit down during the vows and then her father or whichever bridesmaid held them would give her the flowers back and they'd go into the vestry to register the marriage with both mothers and someone representing Sheldon's father.

They come out of the vestry after the registration procedure with Amy on Sheldon's arm, her father on Mary's arm, his father's rep on Mrs Fowler's arm, a bridesmaid on Leonard's arm etc to signify the new relationship of the two families to each other. I gather they don't usually do this bit in the USA.  Some friends of mine whose son was marrying an American lady explained it to the bride's relatives and they did it in their church because they thought it was a nice idea. This sort of thing is only a tradition BTW. All that's legally required is  the couple, a priest and two witnesses. If either party is underage they can produce a letter from a parent giving consent.

Someone's going to have to draw me a diagram!

[Gbb]

1 hour ago, joyceraye said:

So that's the bride and groom, the bride's father or whoever's giving her away,the officiant, the best man and a bridesmaid  or whichever attendant holds the bride's flowers during the vows, and who sign the register ? 

The wedding party would also include all of the bridesmaids and groomsmen as well as any flower girls or ring bearers. And to muddy the waters a bit (more), the officiant isn't really considered a member of "the wedding party." When they do the big  photo of the wedding party, the officiant isn't always in the pic.

1 hour ago, shamyarmy2016 said:

a wedding party is like the reception where everyone paries and dances after the couple take their vows and their first dance

You're referring to A wedding party as opposed to THE wedding party. 

Oh, the things we'll talk about during haitus. 

Edited August 19, 2017 by Gbb

[April]

1 hour ago, Gbb said:

Oh, the things we'll talk about during haitus. 

LOL yeah, Shamy threads can be fun like that. At least it's not Sex Ed 101 again.

My goodness, as of today I've been on this forum for 2 years and I've seen and participated in some really funny and weird discussions. Here's hoping the next two years will just as much fun!! <3

[joyceraye]

2 hours ago, Gbb said:

The wedding party would also include all of the bridesmaids and groomsmen as well as any flower girls or ring bearers. And to muddy the waters a bit (more), the officiant isn't really considered a member of "the wedding party." When they do the big  photo of the wedding party, the officiant isn't always in the pic.

You're referring to A wedding party as opposed to THE wedding party. 

Oh, the things we'll talk about during haitus. 

Groomsmen are unusual beings on this side of the pond. They do exist but I've never seen one. There are no flower girls or ring bearers. The Best Man carries the ring. The big photo usually has all the relatives and close friends on it. Now you come to mention it we don't always have the vicar on it either.

The meal after the wedding here is called a Wedding Reception or Wedding Breakfast. Occasionally there's a party in the evening too which older guests are not required to attend and which has a wider range of people attending who are not necessarily immediate relatives or those who went to the more formal do, the younger ones of which might go to both. 

With only one more American stye wedding in the offing ( assuming Raj has a Hindu one ) I think it's useful to discuss now in the hiatus so that we know what they're talking about.

 

[Die Zimtzicke]

6 hours ago, shamyarmy2016 said:

a wedding party is like the reception where everyone paries and dances after the couple take their vows and their first dance

Not where I'm from. That would be the reception. The wedding party is the group of people standing up in the wedding, bridesmaids, ushers, best man and maid or matron of honor.

Edited August 19, 2017 by Die Zimtzicke

[Jonny]

Quote

Psychic: He should give himself to this relationship. Once he does, all his other pursuits will come into focus.
Penny: Sheldon, you hear that? Amy is the key to your happiness.
Psychic: Exactly. Personally and professionally. Everything will fall into place once you commit to her.

Now the writers probably don't remember this episode Season 7 Episode 21 The Anything Can Happen Recurrence but I was talking to a friend via PM and we were talking about perhaps maybe it could be fun if this actually does happen. Sheldon has committed to Amy completely and they actually do have some major success with say the project they are working on together.

I think it could be fun at some point if say they have a breakthrough with their project and win an award (doesn't have to be a biggie bit I would imagine there are lots of awards for scientific endeavor, both state and national or in the wider community). Maybe Sheldon with his eidetic memory starts mumbling to himself 'the psychic was right' or something for comedy, perhaps some of his friends or Amy wonder what he is on about and Penny is there with her huge grin.

I also think it could be a good test for him and him working on sharing attention, credit etc. One of the reason I really love The Troll Manifestation (mainly because of the girls) is the way Leonard and Sheldon worked together and it actually felt like they were equals and enjoyed working together. It wasn't a Sheldon ego stroke so Sheldon clearly has it in him to be more gracious when it comes to work. We know in 11.1 Sheldon clearly wants to work on it i.e. sharing attention, not making it all about him.

Of course if it does become largely an ego stroke for Sheldon (Shamy having a big breakthrough and success with their project) then fuck the idea lol, but I think a comedic but also sweet at the same time storyline with a nice payoff from it could be possible. I would find it interesting

Thoughts? Am I being too nostalgic lol?

[Judith]

The only thing I'm sure of about the wedding is that at some point Bernie will go into labour. For the rest I just hope there will be no ugly bridesmaids dresses. Or even better, no bridesmaids at all. Where I come from we have a best man and a maid of honour and that's it (I don't know if that's connected to the continent or the religion). We also have a saying that the best man and the maid of honour are gonna hook up at some point (like the couple that chose these two) so it will be amusing if they choose Leonard and Bernie.