Jonny Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 1 hour ago, spidergirl said: I could happily go with that too, hehe! A bag of ice would help Ramona with the bruises though! Two months until first taping... I wish the hiatus countdown could be this one: So it's definitely around 2 months until the first taping? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
April Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Jonny said: So it's definitely around 2 months until the first taping? First tapings are mid August, maybe early August if we're lucky. To be precise: Either 8th or 15th August, though the latter is more likely judging by past years. Edited June 21, 2017 by April Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonmar Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Jonny said: So it's definitely around 2 months until the first taping? Season 10...first table read was 8/10/16 and first taping was 8/16/16 Season 9...first table read was 8/5/15 and first taping was 8/11/15 Edited June 21, 2017 by vonmar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidergirl Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Jonny said: So it's definitely around 2 months until the first taping? Yeah, more and less. From @vonmar post, if the first taping of s11 might be to happen closer to the first one from s10, it might be less than two months. I am going to be so nervous, lol! Nervous in end of s10, nervous for start of s11: shamy kills me for good reasons! Edited June 21, 2017 by spidergirl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonmar Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 So what do we still have to look forward to as hiatus chugs along. Jim's movie is currently filming in Brooklyn, NY. I'm hoping he will share a bit from that project. Emmy nominations on July 13th. Comic Con runs July 20-23. Kunal said he was going to be there and Melissa has her Batman/Harley Quinn project to promote, so she might be there also. The official schedule won't come out until 2 weeks before the convention. The studios should be announcing who/what they are presenting in the next couple of weeks. Jim's documentary for the Discovery Channel ‘First In Human: The Trials Of Building 10’ premiers on Aug. 10th, so we might get some promo work from him for that project. I'm always amused by how a season ending hiatus seems so looming, but then it suddenly starts to fly by. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidergirl Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 It is a nice list of things for looking for to know more about in this hiatus time. Thanks for all info, guys! Btw, I have read the Jim's movie info in imdb and it looks like an interisting screenplay. Looking foward to seeing it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirs1 Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) So, in the spirit of the things we are looking forward to, I'm very curious about one thing about the premiere: will Ramona be in the episode? From the sound of Molaro's post finale interviews, it looks like she won't be in it (I guess they would have booked the actress since May if they needed her and wanted to be 100% sure she would have been available) which suggests me no big drama is waiting for us. Things might have changed in the meantime, obviously, even if I don't think the writers wrote the finale without having an idea of how the proposal would have ended. I get they don't like planning, but...come on! I must confess I really hope Ramona is not in the premiere and\or knowing about her and the kiss doesn't play a huge role in Amy's answer. I like the way the proposal played out in the end, the last scene in 10.24 was perfect, but the idea that a third party was involved in the process saddens me a bit, that was not the proposal I had in mind. So, I would like the premiere has the right amount of quirkiness and Shamyness to make me forget what I didn't like in the finale. I'm also not a fan of the idea of an Amy/Ramona shootout, TBH. It was fun to see Amy being out of her mind with the girls or Leonard (and it played out just for giggles, pretty sure about it) but I don't want that to happen with Ramona herself. Thoughts? Comments? Edited June 22, 2017 by mirs1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidergirl Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, mirs1 said: So, in the spirit of the things we are looking forward to, I'm very curious about one thing about the premiere: will Ramona be in the episode? From the sound of Molaro's post finale interviews, it looks like she won't be in it (I guess they would have booked the actress since May if they needed her and wanted to be 100% sure she would have been available) which suggests me no big drama is waiting for us. Things might have changed in the meantime, obviously, even if I don't think the writers wrote the finale without having an idea of how the proposal would have ended. I get they don't like planning, but...come on! I must confess I really hope Ramona is not in the premiere and\or knowing about her and the kiss doesn't play a huge role in Amy's answer. I like the way the proposal played out in the end, the last scene in 10.24 was perfect, but the idea that a third party was involved in the process saddens me a bit, that was not the proposal I had in mind. So, I would like the premiere has the right amount of quirkiness and Shamyness to make me forget what I didn't like in the finale. I'm also not a fan of the idea of an Amy/Ramona shootout, TBH. It was fun to see Amy being out of her mind with the girls or Leonard (and it played out just for giggles, pretty sure about it) but I don't want that to happen with Ramona herself. Thoughts? Comments? I hope Ramona won't be in the s11 première episode either. Actually, I believe writers would not do that as I feel like the purpose of shaking things a bit in shamy land for the interest of casual viewers raising in season finale was anchieved. I hope some drama, maybe after a Amy pannick attack as she might mention Ramona in the talk and Sheldon tell her about the kiss but as you, I hope the kiss doesn't play a huge role in Amy's answer. Maybe I am in minority about this but I think the talk between Sheldon and Amy after he popped the big question might be simpler than we might be thinking it would be. Shamy has now a balanced and better relationship what is communication related and although the mention of Ramona kiss might turn to a few moments of tension between them, I think it might be in terms of it was about someone who tried to mess with shamy relationship and not because shamy is showing signs of something could be wrong about their relationship, you know. Regards a face to face between Ramona and Amy, I am not interested to see it at all. It is funny as we might see jealous Amy as she talk with girls or even as she mentioned to Sheldon she got a bit jealous but a big scene between her and Ramona would show an insecurity from Amy that I dont believe it exists in this phase of shamy relationship and it would sound very shallow and it doesnt fit with Amy's character imo. As I have said , I wanted a more quirky shamy proposal but in end I liked how it was played out. It would worry me if that third party writers choosed to included in season final could have some influence in Sheldon's feelings but it did not. Besides I dont believe Ramona move to Sheldon was who made him propose to Amy. His actions through all season were showing imo he was slowly getting there, especially in 10.23. Ramona was like a "teaser" to the audience as it might put some viewers to think Sheldon felt pression and proposed. To me Sheldon proposed because he wanted, because he might have been thinking of doing that for last days, especially since Amy went to Princeton. Ramona might have done he had an epiphany like he had in 9.10. Who follows shamy since the beginning knows how meant those two are and how powerful is their feelings to each other. Writers surely will show it to the audience in s11, as they might write a powerful dialogue between shamy where they will work things out as the viewer will surely be sure of two things: *Sheldon loves Amy and he knows what he wants for their relationship as he doesnt need any external help to lead them to the next level of their relationship. *Amy loves Sheldon and she will say yes after being honest about last events. She trusts Sheldon and it won't change just because a woman tried to mess up with them. These are my thoughts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, mirs1 said: So, in the spirit of the things we are looking forward to, I'm very curious about one thing about the premiere: will Ramona be in the episode? From the sound of Molaro's post finale interviews, it looks like she won't be in it (I guess they would have booked the actress since May if they needed her and wanted to be 100% sure she would have been available) which suggests me no big drama is waiting for us. Things might have changed in the meantime, obviously, even if I don't think the writers wrote the finale without having an idea of how the proposal would have ended. I get they don't like planning, but...come on! I must confess I really hope Ramona is not in the premiere and\or knowing about her and the kiss doesn't play a huge role in Amy's answer. I like the way the proposal played out in the end, the last scene in 10.24 was perfect, but the idea that a third party was involved in the process saddens me a bit, that was not the proposal I had in mind. So, I would like the premiere has the right amount of quirkiness and Shamyness to make me forget what I didn't like in the finale. I'm also not a fan of the idea of an Amy/Ramona shootout, TBH. It was fun to see Amy being out of her mind with the girls or Leonard (and it played out just for giggles, pretty sure about it) but I don't want that to happen with Ramona herself. Thoughts? Comments? I don't think she will be in the season opener and no offence to the actress who plays her I hope she doesn't come back. Whilst the prospect at first of Amy threatening to send some cocaine addicted blowpipe wielding monkeys after Ramona is tempting I agree with you I would rather not see a confrontation between the two of them. Amy has Sheldon she has already won. But let's say for arguments sake that she is in the opener, the actual interaction I wouldn't mind seeing is Sheldon and Ramona. I would like him to perhaps in a more direct and signalling a mature way tell her he is not interested. I think she got the message when he fled in disgust but perhaps a direct and frank conversation might fully cement that. But again if she doesn't turn up at all that would be my preferred outcome. In terms of how the proposal actually plays out and what may or may not happen, I think I am going to just wait and see what happens. Edited June 22, 2017 by Jonny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Hilts Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) Amy is dealing with a guy who doesn't 'get' the true meaning behind a third of the things people say to him. Whether it's reacting to Leonard using the "whip" sound application on him and his thinking it's a reference to his "being smart as a whip," to the grammar conversation with Amy when she is in NJ, Sheldon doesn't generally do nuance in his social transactions. That creates challenges with everyone who interacts with him. Edited June 22, 2017 by Capt. Hilts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soopysue Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 Agree you guys !I said I wanted Amy to kick Ramona's butt but actually I think it would just add more drama !! So I'm a "no" vote for her returning - good riddance from me !!I'm still with@april 's idea of the panic attack type situation, followed by a "wait , what, why ??" Type response by Amy followed by a dissuasion with Sheldon telling Amy about the kiss etc , all is resolved in a very heart felt Shamy way and then a yes, with lots of kisses etc !!! BUT I can't get this wee scenario out my head - that has Amy says yes straight away followed by a lovely Shamy kiss, which Sheldon then says (as he pulls out at the end of it ) " "oh thank goodness, that's what a kiss is meant to be like, so much better than the yucky Ramona kiss " or something similar - que Amy with her WTF SHELDON......small drama ......then all calm as Sheldon explains what went down, that he was innocent etc - Amy Believes him followed by more kisses etcetc ..... no it's not what I want to happen and even if it does, as I said I think it'll be quickly fixed, but I can see the writers idea of "comedy " and Sheldon cluelessness in that type of comment from him ! @vonmar thanks for that info - lots to look forward too ! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Capt. Hilts said: Amy is dealing with a guy who doesn't 'get' the true meaning behind a third of the things people say to him. Whether it's reacting to Leonard using the "whip" sound application on him and his thinking it's a reference to his "being smart as a whip," to the grammar conversation with Amy when she is in NJ, Sheldon doesn't generally do nuance in his social transactions. That creates challenges with everyone who interacts with him. And when we point that out we get accused of being too soft on him or using it as some kind of defensive argument all the time for his actions or behaviors. I think there are times when he has known fully well what he was doing or what is going on (like the table situation and we call him out on it) and he has been a jackass about it, but there are more times when he hasn't got a scooby doo. He has improved on that front but he will never fully get people, perhaps understand some of the subtleties, or if someone perhaps has their own agenda that is being hidden or disguised in Ramona's case. I think Amy obviously knows this, so her reaction if she finds out about Ramona and what happened will be one of the things I will be watching closely. Edited June 22, 2017 by Jonny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
April Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Capt. Hilts said: Amy is dealing with a guy who doesn't 'get' the true meaning behind a third of the things people say to him. Whether it's reacting to Leonard using the "whip" sound application on him and his thinking it's a reference to his "being smart as a whip," to the grammar conversation with Amy when she is in NJ, Sheldon doesn't generally do nuance in his social transactions. That creates challenges with everyone who interacts with him. Nah, homeboy knows the bold one. After a whole season establishing that geeky turn-ons are their modus operandi now where it's especially Sheldon who's making it clear by explicitly telling Amy that their intellectual exchanges make him "randy" I don't buy that he doesn't get the flirty undertones for that grammar talk. Not to mention he just called her a "naughty vixen" during sex the episode before so when he calls her "naughty" again here I think it's a deliberate word choice by the writers. But as it often is with Amy she's the exception that proves the rule. And a lot of it has to do with their long history as a couple where they took a long time to figure these things out for themselves. Communication is highly situational and just because you can communicate blind with your SO doesn't mean it's the same with everybody else. Sheldon is particularly handicapped in that way cause as the show established his brain is just wired differently and he can't read people's emotions or get subtleties in communication when people are not upfront with what they mean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
April Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 8 hours ago, mirs1 said: So, in the spirit of the things we are looking forward to, I'm very curious about one thing about the premiere: will Ramona be in the episode? From the sound of Molaro's post finale interviews, it looks like she won't be in it (I guess they would have booked the actress since May if they needed her and wanted to be 100% sure she would have been available) which suggests me no big drama is waiting for us. Things might have changed in the meantime, obviously, even if I don't think the writers wrote the finale without having an idea of how the proposal would have ended. I get they don't like planning, but...come on! I must confess I really hope Ramona is not in the premiere and\or knowing about her and the kiss doesn't play a huge role in Amy's answer. I like the way the proposal played out in the end, the last scene in 10.24 was perfect, but the idea that a third party was involved in the process saddens me a bit, that was not the proposal I had in mind. So, I would like the premiere has the right amount of quirkiness and Shamyness to make me forget what I didn't like in the finale. I'm also not a fan of the idea of an Amy/Ramona shootout, TBH. It was fun to see Amy being out of her mind with the girls or Leonard (and it played out just for giggles, pretty sure about it) but I don't want that to happen with Ramona herself. Thoughts? Comments? I have similar thoughts about the matter. Ideally I'd want Shamy to spend the season opener together in NJ - ALONE! So if Ramona resurfaces I don't want her anywhere near that place. I've read somewhere the idea that she'd follow Sheldon like some crazy stalker and... yeah, how about NO! If she comes back then I hope it's only in a capacity to keep the gang busy while they figure out where Sheldon is or something but otherwise I see no need for her in that episode. And even if the gang confronts her to find out about Sheldon you don't even need to show that. A simple conversation alluding to "I talked to Ramona and she was upset - something must have happened with Sheldon!" would be enough. That isn't to say of course that she couldn't turn up later again at Caltech to cause some trouble but... eh... I don't see much potential for story material here. But then again who knows. Oh wait... Sheldon being the one to go to HR department to make a legitimate complaint should Ramona not stop with her pursuit could be a fun change. Would be nice to see Mrs. Davis again but I guess Regina King has better things to do these days. As for Amy being angry about the situation: I think her anger will be more directed at Ramona for trying to steal her man than at Sheldon for not being careful enough. She knows Sheldon and his weaknesses with social interactions and I saw her as being worried not about Sheldon cheating on her but rather about pretty much exactly what happened: that Ramona would take advantage of him in some way. With that said though I also don't exactly want a direct showdown between Amy and Ramona. I'd love another one of her crazy scientist threats though like sending a bunch of monkeys after her or so. LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joyceraye Posted June 25, 2017 Posted June 25, 2017 A few hours ago I was skimming through S4 looking for Amy episodes. I liked early Amy. We don't get many glimpses of that person now. Much as I like the current Amy, I enjoy hints of the old one, eg 'A lot of lectures ?' 'OK. So you know.' It would have been difficult to leave her in that robotic mode once it was decided she was going to stay in the series so of course she had to be softened over time. Imagine someone still like that in the show every week after six more years ! The changes in the early days were slow and subtle at first. Some are noticeable with hindsight. I wonder what made her go robotic in the first place ? Sheldon revealed that his decision was based on TV's Spock. He'd been satisfied with that for years. It had protected him and seen him through. After Amy started coming out of her shell, beginning in '21 Seconds', she often referred to her youth as a time when she would have liked friends and boyfriends. So, not a female version of Sheldon in that regard. Unlike him, she wasn't in that closed-off world entirely willingly, so, whatever made her create it and why did she stay in it ? Millions of people have strict mothers and don't turn into zombies and robots. If she wanted friends, what do we think made her remain so unfriendly in the years before she gatecrashed girls' night ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWackaDoodle Posted June 25, 2017 Posted June 25, 2017 2 hours ago, joyceraye said: A few hours ago I was skimming through S4 looking for Amy episodes. I liked early Amy. We don't get many glimpses of that person now. Much as I like the current Amy, I enjoy hints of the old one, eg 'A lot of lectures ?' 'OK. So you know.' It would have been difficult to leave her in that robotic mode once it was decided she was going to stay in the series so of course she had to be softened over time. Imagine someone still like that in the show every week after six more years ! The changes in the early days were slow and subtle at first. Some are noticeable with hindsight. I wonder what made her go robotic in the first place ? Sheldon revealed that his decision was based on TV's Spock. He'd been satisfied with that for years. It had protected him and seen him through. After Amy started coming out of her shell, beginning in '21 Seconds', she often referred to her youth as a time when she would have liked friends and boyfriends. So, not a female version of Sheldon in that regard. Unlike him, she wasn't in that closed-off world entirely willingly, so, whatever made her create it and why did she stay in it ? Millions of people have strict mothers and don't turn into zombies and robots. If she wanted friends, what do we think made her remain so unfriendly in the years before she gatecrashed girls' night ? I'm sure I'm projecting, but I see a lot of Amy's personality in myself, although I'd like to hope I'm not as socially awkward.I think that Amy's naivete, lack of social skills and general "roboticness" comes from being very sheltered as a child and a lack of opportunity to interact with her peers in a social setting outside of school (girl sprouts for example.) I think her mother ingrained in Amy a fear of the outside world. So, when she met Sheldon, she "went robot" as a way of protecting herself. Amy seemed as though she trusted too easily and then came to realize she was being taken advantage of or a victim of bullying (the otter in the sauna story.) After awhile, at least for me, that took a toll on my psyche and I became generally distrustful and always second guessing motives. I think once amy began to realize she really liked Sheldon is when she started trying to be near him as much as possible. Penny offered the best of botworlds, so to speak; proximity to Sheldon and the opportunity to have a real girl friend. That Penny was friends with Sheldon certainly helped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
April Posted June 25, 2017 Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, joyceraye said: A few hours ago I was skimming through S4 looking for Amy episodes. I liked early Amy. We don't get many glimpses of that person now. Much as I like the current Amy, I enjoy hints of the old one, eg 'A lot of lectures ?' 'OK. So you know.' It would have been difficult to leave her in that robotic mode once it was decided she was going to stay in the series so of course she had to be softened over time. Imagine someone still like that in the show every week after six more years ! The changes in the early days were slow and subtle at first. Some are noticeable with hindsight. I wonder what made her go robotic in the first place ? Sheldon revealed that his decision was based on TV's Spock. He'd been satisfied with that for years. It had protected him and seen him through. After Amy started coming out of her shell, beginning in '21 Seconds', she often referred to her youth as a time when she would have liked friends and boyfriends. So, not a female version of Sheldon in that regard. Unlike him, she wasn't in that closed-off world entirely willingly, so, whatever made her create it and why did she stay in it ? Millions of people have strict mothers and don't turn into zombies and robots. If she wanted friends, what do we think made her remain so unfriendly in the years before she gatecrashed girls' night ? I think it's not just the weird upbringing by her mother but even more so the constant rejection by her peers that triggered similar coping mechanisms in Amy like they did in Sheldon. Sheldon might have had Spock as a model to look towards to but the reason that caused him to do so was pretty similar to Amy's in that they were both bullied and while their mothers tried to do their best they couldn't meet their kids' needs. Victims of bullying often become emotionally withdrawn and socially reclusive to avoid experiencing more hurt and humiliation. With both Sheldon and Amy being hyper intelligent as a coping strategy they seemed to start focussing their energy on the things they enjoy - most importantly science. For Amy it wasn't until she found a like-minded friend in Sheldon and already warmed up to more social situations thanks to him that she actually started to make friends with the girls. And since she never really had any friends her attempts were a bit blunt to say the least. Edited June 25, 2017 by April Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hawking Posted June 25, 2017 Posted June 25, 2017 On 20/06/2017 at 8:35 AM, spidergirl said: So what I have been doing when I am home after everything house-care is done is re-watching s9. Including the first part? Even now, I really struggle to watch some of the early episodes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidergirl Posted June 25, 2017 Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Stephen Hawking said: Including the first part? Even now, I really struggle to watch some of the early episodes. Yes, including first part. It made part of shamy background so to me makes all sense to watch all their best and worst times. Life has ups and downs for everyone and they had had theirs like everyone else. Edited June 25, 2017 by spidergirl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hawking Posted June 25, 2017 Posted June 25, 2017 Here's an idea for a Shamy/Ramona showdown. Shamy Skype Ramona, and Sheldon tells her "I know what you were trying to do, but it won't work. This is the lady for me, so take a hike." Then they both grin and wave goodbye at Ramona, and close the Skype session. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joyceraye Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) 23 hours ago, DrWackaDoodle said: I'm sure I'm projecting, but I see a lot of Amy's personality in myself, although I'd like to hope I'm not as socially awkward.I think that Amy's naivete, lack of social skills and general "roboticness" comes from being very sheltered as a child and a lack of opportunity to interact with her peers in a social setting outside of school (girl sprouts for example.) I think her mother ingrained in Amy a fear of the outside world. So, when she met Sheldon, she "went robot" as a way of protecting herself. Amy seemed as though she trusted too easily and then came to realize she was being taken advantage of or a victim of bullying (the otter in the sauna story.) After awhile, at least for me, that took a toll on my psyche and I became generally distrustful and always second guessing motives. I think once amy began to realize she really liked Sheldon is when she started trying to be near him as much as possible. Penny offered the best of botworlds, so to speak; proximity to Sheldon and the opportunity to have a real girl friend. That Penny was friends with Sheldon certainly helped. Good point ! I never would have thought of her going into a particular mode for Sheldon. Now you mention that,DrWackaDoodle, it makes a lot of sense. Watching the fourth series as a whole, I see now how little time it took to begin softening Amy up and give her some social confidence. What seemed like a long transition seven years ago when Amy only popped up about once a month and spent relatively few of her appearances interacting with Sheldon, actually takes place over a handful of episodes. So, the suggestion that she wasn't a robot all the time but could switch that mode on or off seems a great one to me. It explains a lot. Moving from seeming to have been born yesterday to adolescence is quite credible looked at like that. Edited June 26, 2017 by joyceraye inserting poster's name Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirs1 Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 On 25 giugno 2017 at 5:54 PM, April said: I think it's not just the weird upbringing by her mother but even more so the constant rejection by her peers that triggered similar coping mechanisms in Amy like they did in Sheldon. Sheldon might have had Spock as a model to look towards to but the reason that caused him to do so was pretty similar to Amy's in that they were both bullied and while their mothers tried to do their best they couldn't meet their kids' needs. Victims of bullying often become emotionally withdrawn and socially reclusive to avoid experiencing more hurt and humiliation. With both Sheldon and Amy being hyper intelligent as a coping strategy they seemed to start focussing their energy on the things they enjoy - most importantly science. For Amy it wasn't until she found a like-minded friend in Sheldon and already warmed up to more social situations thanks to him that she actually started to make friends with the girls. And since she never really had any friends her attempts were a bit blunt to say the least. I think the main difference between Amy and Sheldon, which might also explain why Amy had a quicker "transition" than Sheldon is that Sheldon was much more comfortable with his coping mechanism than Amy. Amy tried so hard to have friends and make experiences as a child but, between her overprotective mother and her quirkiness, she couldn't get any and on the contrary got just bulling and disappointment. Sheldon probably was less interested in those things to begin with, he just wanted to be accepted for the person he was, and that was anyway pretty difficult in a small community that had never dealt with a child-prodigy like him. For Sheldon Spock was a real role model, Amy just needed a bit if encouragement to leave that robotic appearance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidergirl Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) Agree with you @mirs1. I believe the robotic Amy mode was a way of her protecting herself from harmfull feelings stuff from others but she always wanted to have an active social life . It was one of big advantages of she started to be friends with Sheldon who had a nice group of close friends despite his lack of interest to show he thought of them as close ones as Amy finaly felt she could have friends as everybody else and enjoy to do things with people who would see her as an enjoyable company. Sheldon grew up in an environment which was not ready for a prodigy child like him. He needed some help for learning to interact with who made part of his circle of relatives and acquintances as he was not "adjusted" to things he was living because he was ahead of his time because of his genial mind but nobody was ready and able to provide that help to him. His choice as he behaved like a robot was a way to escape to these interactions with people who did not undertand him and as he did not know how to handle with them either. Amy was that friend who Sheldon really felt she could understand him as much they conected. He took longer than her to loose his robotic mode because this time instead he was ahead of his time about something, Sheldon was very late of his time what were emotions related. Shamy are a good example as two persons who complete each other as they have been learning with each other to develop those things they were not adjusted to a normal pace of comunication and relationships as standard in our society. They are a good example of doesnt matter the time something takes from a person but who would provide the help for make that time worth. Everything is possible as much a person makes an effort for make what have in their minds , with the most useful help from the person who provides it in most caring and confortable way. Sheldon and Amy made it possible to both. Edited June 26, 2017 by spidergirl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
April Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 1 hour ago, mirs1 said: I think the main difference between Amy and Sheldon, which might also explain why Amy had a quicker "transition" than Sheldon is that Sheldon was much more comfortable with his coping mechanism than Amy. Amy tried so hard to have friends and make experiences as a child but, between her overprotective mother and her quirkiness, she couldn't get any and on the contrary got just bulling and disappointment. Sheldon probably was less interested in those things to begin with, he just wanted to be accepted for the person he was, and that was anyway pretty difficult in a small community that had never dealt with a child-prodigy like him. For Sheldon Spock was a real role model, Amy just needed a bit if encouragement to leave that robotic appearance. I'd even go as far as saying that having a role model in Spock made Sheldon more comfortable in the first place cause he had a hero that was like him (even if it was in part due to his warped interpretation but still). If you remember from the Spockumentary a lot of the character's appeal was due to him being an outsider that many fans could identify with. Having a fictional character to connect with and look up to can be a huge source of security, hence why I'm not surprised Sheldon embraced this identity as a wannabe Vulcan. I'm not so sure that Amy equally ever had someone like that to look up to and make her feel better about being an outsider. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidergirl Posted June 27, 2017 Posted June 27, 2017 11 hours ago, April said: I'd even go as far as saying that having a role model in Spock made Sheldon more comfortable in the first place cause he had a hero that was like him (even if it was in part due to his warped interpretation but still). If you remember from the Spockumentary a lot of the character's appeal was due to him being an outsider that many fans could identify with. Having a fictional character to connect with and look up to can be a huge source of security, hence why I'm not surprised Sheldon embraced this identity as a wannabe Vulcan. I'm not so sure that Amy equally ever had someone like that to look up to and make her feel better about being an outsider. Agree. Amy was more lonely than Sheldon , as she had no friends neither siblings. Tv shows seemed to be a great escape to Sheldon, to Amy that escape might have been from books. It is easier to a child to pretend to be someone who can be seen rather than to be someone who had to be imagined. Besides Sheldon's sibblings were a handfull of making trouble aganst him, Spock was like a "shield" to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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