[Spoilers] Non-Season 11 Show Discussion

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This thread is for any Show Discussion, not related to season 11.  If a discussion in a season 11 goes to another season, and gets too far off track, it will be moved here.  

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As I've been going through the seasons for my screen time project, I'll start this thread up.  APRIL, YOU CANNOT PARTICIPATE IN THIS, AND YOU KNOW WHY....

What is notable about the episode "The Love Car Displacement"?

[bfm]

So I think I found something interesting...Is that Penny's prom dress there?  

(Sorry about the annoying subtitles it's from the VOD service on my TV. I usually just ignore them when I watch it this way...)

Edited August 17, 2017 by bfm

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Yep, I'd say so.   Nice catch.

[Carlos]

23 hours ago, vonmar said:

So that excuses everything.....Penny & Raj for example?

1) It is a fact per show's canon.

2) There is nothing to excuse, because Mandy kissed Leonard, and not the other way around.

3) Being drunk is relevant because it delayed Leonard's response (per show canon)

4) Leonard didn't tell Penny for 2 years because prior to that the writers hadn't thought of it.

5) In Penny and Raj's case all the blame lies with Raj, because Penny didn't even remember what had happened.

[Chiany]

2 hours ago, Carlos said:

1) It is a fact per show's canon.

2) There is nothing to excuse, because Mandy kissed Leonard, and not the other way around.

3) Being drunk is relevant because it delayed Leonard's response (per show canon)

4) Leonard didn't tell Penny for 2 years because prior to that the writers hadn't thought of it.

5) In Penny and Raj's case all the blame lies with Raj, because Penny didn't even remember what had happened.

2) prove it.

3) so all the things Sheldon did while drunk are excused to.

4) either you blame the characters for their actions, or the writers. You can't have it both ways to suit your personal interest.

4) Penny was just as involved as Raj, and with her past she should have known better. So if you want to shift blame, it's more on her then on Raj.

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30 minutes ago, Chiany said:

2) prove it.

3) so all the things Sheldon did while drunk are excused to.

4) either you blame the characters for their actions, or the writers. You can't have it both ways to suit your personal interest.

4) Penny was just as involved as Raj, and with her past she should have known better. So if you want to shift blame, it's more on her then on Raj.

2)  In fact, anyone can choose to believe what they want, as we haven't seen the kiss.  And we haven't been told who initiated the kiss.  

3) Yep.

4) Sure you can.  But I blame the writers.

5) It's more than likely that Penny was legally impaired (blackout's usually start around BAC of.16-.19 (twice the legal limit of being impaired) and are more prevalent at a BAC of .20).   It's quite possible that Raj wasn't impaired (he remembers everything, and also premature ejaculation is less likely when a male is legally impaired.  So under California Law, Raj is responsible, not Penny.  

[3ku11]

3 hours ago, chucky said:

Oh, the one from last year when he and Penny were thick as thieves while Leonard, (her husband), was left feeling like a third wheel. Then the episode from Season 5 when he and Penny got drunk and ended up in bed sleeping together, just sleeping. You know where she called Raj Quick draw? Leonard could have residual bad feelings from those times.

Well Penny was third wheel most of S5 with Priya around. So I don't think their is much of a scale here.

And Penny/Raj was 4x24. I don't even care about it anymore never did really. Only take away I got from it. IS that Raj is a quick draw. 

Edited April 6, 2018 by 3ku11

[chucky]

45 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

Well Penny was third wheel most of S5 with Priya around. So I don't think their is much of a scale here.

And Penny/Raj was 4x24. I don't even care about it anymore never did really. Only take away I got from it. IS that Raj is a quick draw. 

You totally missed the point, I was commenting on times Leonard might be upset with the quick draw artist known as Raj. I merely said Leonard might still be upset with Raj over those incidents. Some people hold grudges for some time and the anger could be brought back real easily.

1 hour ago, 3ku11 said:

And Penny/Raj was 4x24. I don't even care about it anymore never did really

It doesn't matter what you care about, I was referring to Leonard.

[chucky]

4 hours ago, 3ku11 said:

 

And I was countering that argument. By pointing out. Leonard being a thrid wheel is nothing Penny diddn't expierence.

This has nothing to do with Penny feeling like a third wheel. All I'm saying is that Leonard may be harboring resentment towards Raj for those two incidents with Raj, which is why he would have no problem taking Penny's side over Raj in any argument. Along with the fact that Penny is his wife and to keep harmony in the marriage, he would take her side. Although Penny has no problem taking Sheldon's side over her husband.

[Chrismo]

23 minutes ago, chucky said:

Leonard is the type of person that keeps it bottled up until something comes along and triggers an explosion (so to speak) of emotions to escape at once.

Leonard has never said anything in the last 7 years. It seems to me there even. Priya/Leonard were having sex in Raj's place.

[chucky]

1 minute ago, SRAM said:

I don’t think we’ll see Leonard holding a grudge against Raj about the night of drunken lust between him and Penny, they sort of passed up the opportunity to do that when Raj stayed with them and became Penny’s best friend there for a couple weeks.   Of course if we still had Lenny going in the same direction as the previous couple of seasons, I would not have been surprised to find out tha Penny had a affair, out of the blue, a couple of years before based on how they were being written.

I think in a way he's holding a grudge because even though Penny and Leonard weren't together, he still saw it as an insult and a betrayal of their friendship. Even Howard mentioned that as well and Leonard nodded in agreement. Would he do bodily harm to Raj, NO. But, harboring resentment is possible as does Howard for Raj's actions with Bernadette. Remember "Bernadette, please play my clarinet"?

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36 minutes ago, chucky said:

Leonard is the type of person that keeps it bottled up until something comes along and triggers an explosion (so to speak) of emotions to escape at once.

I haven't seen many examples of this, Leonard is not much of an "exploding" type, IMO. I haven't seen an indication for him holding a grudge toards Raj either. 

[chucky]

1 minute ago, bfm said:

I haven't seen many examples of this, Leonard is not much of an "exploding" type, IMO. I haven't seen an indication for him holding a grudge toards Raj either. 

I'm not saying he did, only that he could. There have been times his anger came out after something stupid with Sheldon.

[Chrismo]

12 minutes ago, chucky said:

I think in a way he's holding a grudge because even though Penny and Leonard weren't together, he still saw it as an insult and a betrayal of their friendship. Even Howard mentioned that as well and Leonard nodded in agreement. Would he do bodily harm to Raj, NO. But, harboring resentment is possible as does Howard for Raj's actions with Bernadette. Remember "Bernadette, please play my clarinet"?

But wasn't an betrayal by Leonard when he was sneaking around with Priya. If it wasn't a betrayal why was he hiding it?  The only reason Leonard told Raj was because Sheldon found out.

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Leonard has moved on, Penny and Leonard were not together at the time as he was seeing Raj's sister. There was some friction at the time but they got over it very quickly.

Some of you IMO are seeing something that just isn't there.

[chucky]

1 minute ago, Chrismo said:

But wasn't an betrayal by Leonard when he was sneaking around with Priya. If it wasn't a betrayal why was he hiding it?  The only reason Leonard told Raj was because Sheldon found out.

So, they all have secrets and all hold grudges for what they think are wronged. Happy!

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2 minutes ago, chucky said:

I'm not saying he did, only that he could. There have been times his anger came out after something stupid with Sheldon.

But he didn't bottle that in, he did complain about Sheldon (he actually said that in 7X02, something like it's not fair that Sheldon is surprised that he didn't tell him he was back early because he complains about him at least once a day or something like that), it's just that there were times Sheldon was being too much for him. 

[chucky]

2 minutes ago, Jonny said:

There was some friction at the time but they got over it very quickly.

Did they? Who knows what's in a person's mind? In this case, only the writers and god only knows what will come from their minds next that they believe would be in the name of humor.

2 minutes ago, bfm said:

But he didn't bottle that in, he did complain about Sheldon (he actually said that in 7X02, something like it's not fair that Sheldon is surprised that he didn't tell him he was back early because he complains about him at least once a day or something like that), it's just that there were times Sheldon was being too much for him. 

Whatever! You say tomato and I say to-mah-to. I respectfully agree to disagree with you. I'm moving on.

[Mario D.]

6 hours ago, chucky said:

Leonard is the type of person that keeps it bottled up until something comes along and triggers an explosion (so to speak) of emotions to escape at once.

Would the episode where Raj states that he is moving out of their apt. to live with Bert (btw which has never been mentioned again)  Leonard was in sync with Penny and was quick to ask when he is moving out. With Penny sending him apartment listings to nudge him to move I think they both started to feel uncomfortable with his presence.

[Carlos]

14 hours ago, Chrismo said:

Leonard has never said anything in the last 7 years. It seems to me they're even. Priya/Leonard were having sex in Raj's place.

In what universe are they even? When Leonard/Priya were having sex in Raj's place they were boyfriend/girlfriend and Raj her brother, not an ex-boyfriend. In Raj/Penny's case, he took advantage of a drunken Penny even when she had told him she loved Leonard. I don't see how they can be considered to be even at all.

5 hours ago, vonmar said:

Still the #1 show last night in both demo and viewers.

But not the #1 comedy ...

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32 minutes ago, Stephen Hawking said:

Not in the show anyway.  

But would Sheldon get over it?

Yes. I think so. He got over Dave and the other dates Amy had when they were not dating...

[Stephen Hawking]

1 hour ago, Sah said:

Yes. I think so. He got over Dave and the other dates Amy had when they were not dating...

Dating is one thing, but sex is something quite different.

Could he have really got over the fact that Amy was no longer "germ free"?

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Just now, Stephen Hawking said:

Dating is one thing, but sex is something quite different.

Could he have really got over the fact that Amy was no longer "germ free"?

Yes. I believe so. Raj is always packing. Plus they really didn't have sex. It was just a happy ending for Raj. So really no germs.

[April]

14 minutes ago, Stephen Hawking said:

Dating is one thing, but sex is something quite different.

In this hypothetical scenario (we're talking about the equivalent to Penny's and Raj's misadventure after all!) nothing much would have happened.

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Could he have really got over the fact that Amy was no longer "germ free"?

Yes. The answer is yes. If he was worried about "germs" he would have been worried about kisses as well. He clearly wasn't with Dave so case closed.

Edited April 7, 2018 by April